My son went to buy an advertised $54,000 car, the salesman printed up a contract for $67,000. My son started to walk out so the salesman chased him down and sold it to him at the advertised price, of course before taxes. I couldn’t be a car salesman.
I have been repairing D,C and J vehicles in the collision repair industry for the last 30+ years. They have always been poorly engineered and manufactured.
Not surprised. Our Wagoneer was a year old engine blew up over Christmas driving around looking at lights. Not even convinced they’ve fixed the engine issues in the new ones.
I don't hate them. I hate there prices and the fact that they stopped building V8s. My 2014 5.7 Hemi Ram pickup runs like a clock...never had any issues. I'm not going to pay $80k for a pickup or Jeep. They just aren't playing in their market...they are not a luxury brand.
My used jeep I bought last Oct started making differential noise before I even got it home. Brought it to the closest dealer since I got a service contract and the local dealer said that because it has non-factory wheels and tires the warranty company won’t honor the warranty, even though it is a drivetrain warranty. There was a box on the warranty form (left unchecked) that said the wheels and tires were modified and covered. Don’t trust any dealer. Ever.
Car manufacturers went too far designing cars that will fail, so that customers are forced to repair them regularly. Then the doubled the price of the vehicles. It will take some time for them to rebuild trust with customers.
Whenever you go from simplicity to safistication you are open to more problems. No matter what the product! More Americans would like manufacturers to KISS. Thus keeping the cost and after repairs and insurance down
I did a lease extension with them on my Ram to ride out the volatile market. Did everything over the phone, and then got my paperwork in the mail and they doubled the payment on me after the fact. Not any fault of Ram per se, but who they use for all of their financing makes them both guilty by association!
I don't hate CDJR but they've lost their way. They used to have a value proposition with styling/features cheaper than their competition but no longer. They've let many products die or languish and priced themselves out of reach for their core customer of 10 - 20 years ago.
I drive a 2019 ram 1500 classic (big horn edition) 20k miles on it. I never had any issues with Ram Ford I had nothing but issue after issue. Chevy I never liked. Almost went to Toyota Tundra but they have junk motors for the last few years. America won't allow any other companies to come in and challenge them or allow you to get a cheap and reliable brand that's not controlled by the Government
Lucky ! Owned 2 Ram Cummins Dually,s. 15 mpg easy towing. Only complaint was rust too soon. Inside the lower doors. 1 Ford Dually Thunder poop. 7 mpg loaded or not. Drove like a dream ,rode great, ate Diesel like a Pig!
Chrysler is a piece of junk. In 1994 I bough Chrysler DHS. Transmission completely disintegrated after 30,000 miles. At that time if wasn't even variable transmission. It is sad that after 100 years they are still unable to manufacture cars.
I don't understand how these vehicles started selling in the $80s to $100.000.00. They are not a Mercedes-Benz. Play american-made cars and they should not be over $50,000.
They just can’t figure out that the immediate gain of pinching Pennies and cutting corners on quality and reliability….results in the erosion of customer loyalty. And that erosion is passed down through generations. My daughters, having seen me fixing my jeep nonstop and cursing, will NEVER buy that brand. And I’ll be sure of it also. I’ve already told them it’s a POS.
If 72 % of dealers don't trust the company imagin how the employees who designed, built and tested the vehicles feel. Fired engineers no notice, laid off workers and closed facilities that were negotiated into the contract by the Union. Poor quality is directly tied to unhappy workers. If the company doesn't care about the worker the workers don't care about the company and it's products.
Stella this is leading the pack in the enshitification of the auto industry. What makes me sad is every other manufacturer seems to be following suit. Looking at you, GM, removing CarPlay from EVs!
guessing "forever start" is some sort of battery replacement program... "if your battery needs to be replaced within the first 525,600 minutes after purchase, we'll replace it... with a cheaper battery... well, a crank you can use to start your vehicle... if you are the hulk."
Have over 50 years experiance attending dealer auctions. Bought and sold thousands of vehicles without one complaint to the Utah motor vehicle enforcement division. Chevrolet pickups had far more problems than Dodge or Ford. My mechanic once threatened to quit if I didn't stop buying Chevrolets. Just bought a new 25 Ram SST and next year I will be driving a 26 Ram or Ford. Both great trucks!
I wouldn't be surprised if Stellantis ends up dropping Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram entirely. Like phase them out one by one. That'll be scary if a car company could phase out 4 brands at once. But i guess it could happen. They're not going to split CDJR.
@DesertCoyote-t5k If Stellantis were to split CDJR, they would've announced it to the news media, and all of the news channels would be talking about it. There's no way that Stellantis would silently split CDJR without the media knowing about it.
Hey, now my 1967 GTX 440ci, Dana 4.10 rear positraction, automatic transmission couldn't be beat along with multiple 69 GTX's with the same drive train were AWESOME!! 😂 Too bad, Stilantis screwed up Chrysler, Jeep, etc. 😢 Poor quality...!..
@@herbertfranco5826 okay we can make an exception for pre 1970 vehicles. byt 1975 onward is junk. Jeep was always the crappy cheap thing you bought then had to spend 20k in aftermarket upgrades to make it usable off road. they had a good model here or there but in general? crap. good for highschool guys getting their first car. Grand cherokee for $1500 bucks all day. Drive it till it explodes and repeat.
I'm with Ray , these up charges are horrible, will never trust anybody again in this industry , most even the union workers putting them together , never laughed so much listening to him explain this crap the dealers are getting away with
After these hurricanes and fires out in California, think they might now get rid of lots of these cars and trucks that were only setting on lots past year or 2.
So much bad-mouthing, I have a 150K Jeep Cherokee Limited (2015) that I have driven all over North America, including many mountain miles, zero problems, (other than the stupid start-stop), and getting worried that when I try to trade-in and do another 10 years with a new dream Mazda , I’ll get offered twenty bucks, a free cup of coffee and a box of Kleenex to suck up my tears. 😂😢
After following the Macmaster on TH-cam, and his Taycan EV nightmare, I am surprised that Porsche made the most trusted list. Granted, he's just a consumer and not a dealer, but I thought there would be some correlation. No?
I have a major soft spot for Chrysler, especially the brand. Always considered them the pluckiest of the Big Three, with out side the box thinking. Push button transmission, Torqueflite, Torsion-Aire ride, minivans, and more. I hope they get their act together, hopefully not being bossed around by European companies. My 2014 300 C with the hemi is a dream.
Sad to say Ray is really out of touch on the oil change rate at least in my area might cost that/close to that if you do it yourself with no labor. And no way that vehicle is lasting 300k miles if they only cover an oil change at 7500 miles.
Not so much CDJR but the parent company….just the dealers are getting the blame because they are the face…..some dealers probably more than others but you get the idea.
Man I don't know at this point if I should even try to buy a ram . Most of the comments are bad. Only a few people love the ram and it seems like when ram was part of dodge they were more reliable.
I have no trust in any new car or truck brand; period. They're all total junk. I've had many Toyota's in the past. Including their flagship: Toyota Land Cruisers. I wouldn't take a new Toyota for free right now.
You backlash sales people who are trying to make a living, easy target…. What don’t you get your hand in the real dirt and talk about dealerships over charging the cost of repairs internally to reduce the front gross and the salesman commission? That’s a real dealership subject. Recon cost is nowadays $750 for a key, $900 for 2 tires on small SUV’s, $2,000 for a Certified inspection ( plus cost of repairs, parts, labor). In reality, it costs way less, but on paper you reduce the front official gross and by doing so the sales person commission. Pur scam. Don’t be a hater on sales people, they are just doing their job: making profit for them and the company.
I guess your headline is just a false pull to get you clicks. I don’t hate these brands. I own 2 now a Charger and a Jeep GC.i think you should work on fairness and go back to school so you can learn to write better headlines.
I despise any company that puts DEI and government mandates ahead of customers and stock holders. Everything the government and DEI touches turns to pure shit and the consumer has to pay the bills.
100%. DEI is good for nothing but to waste money, tryna appeal to a young and naive demographic that unfortunately couldn’t afford to pay up for nothing.
Owners lease Stellantis biggest conglomerate of the worst built , worst resale in the world ,. I’m sure they ll do better selling all EV vehicles…..SMH ….
Well it's like I've said it doesn't matter whether it's Chrysler Jeep Dodge to be the least trusted you got General Motors you got Ford got all them other foreigners I'm not going to buy anything as long as it's overpriced okay has nothing to do with it how's everything to do with hey I'm not going to go over maybe 275 month payment okay that's it and I don't buy used I buy new and I got two vehicles that are paid for an hour on the Toyota on the Chevrolet Cavalier and I'm not going to buy anything new or these high prices okay it's just that simple it doesn't matter what service to use I can go to the deal another time this is the price I would like if they can't meet it I'm out of there I'm not going to shop any dealership until I want to bring your stupid prices down I'm not paying 60 grand for a car I'm not going to buy you a strip down piece of junk that's still 48,000 screw that
I don’t hate Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, and Ram. I just prefer vehicles that don’t breakdown.
Which one is that? Who four years ago would have thought that Toyota would not clean their engine before putting it together?
I despise that brand as 3 times screwed by them Crooks, and I never 'Dirty my self' again with their garbage!
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My son went to buy an advertised $54,000 car, the salesman printed up a contract for $67,000. My son started to walk out so the salesman chased him down and sold it to him at the advertised price, of course before taxes. I couldn’t be a car salesman.
How do they sleep at night ?
they'll make it all up in repairs...
Dealer don't trust Stellantis??? How about customers that distrust dealers?? I bet the CDJR dealers are gonna make it a triple crown.
I have been repairing D,C and J vehicles in the collision repair industry for the last 30+ years. They have always been poorly engineered and manufactured.
Yep, after my last jeep I will never buy a stellantis product again. Quality is terrible and don't even get me started on the service departments.
Not surprised. Our Wagoneer was a year old engine blew up over Christmas driving around looking at lights. Not even convinced they’ve fixed the engine issues in the new ones.
For six digits the least they can do is survive a night of slow driving!
I leased the Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe, which had a whopping nine recalls in less than two years!
At least you leased it.
Jeep is trash
I don't hate them. I hate there prices and the fact that they stopped building V8s. My 2014 5.7 Hemi Ram pickup runs like a clock...never had any issues. I'm not going to pay $80k for a pickup or Jeep. They just aren't playing in their market...they are not a luxury brand.
In contrast, my 2014 Hemi Ram pickup was the biggest POS I ever owned. Couldn't wait to trade it in.
My used jeep I bought last Oct started making differential noise before I even got it home. Brought it to the closest dealer since I got a service contract and the local dealer said that because it has non-factory wheels and tires the warranty company won’t honor the warranty, even though it is a drivetrain warranty. There was a box on the warranty form (left unchecked) that said the wheels and tires were modified and covered. Don’t trust any dealer. Ever.
Car manufacturers went too far designing cars that will fail, so that customers are forced to repair them regularly. Then the doubled the price of the vehicles. It will take some time for them to rebuild trust with customers.
Not to mention astronomical insurance and interest rates.
Whenever you go from simplicity to safistication you are open to more problems. No matter what the product! More Americans would like manufacturers to KISS. Thus keeping the cost and after repairs and insurance down
The low bar just got lowered
I did a lease extension with them on my Ram to ride out the volatile market. Did everything over the phone, and then got my paperwork in the mail and they doubled the payment on me after the fact. Not any fault of Ram per se, but who they use for all of their financing makes them both guilty by association!
Folks,use your common sense and have the courage to say NOOOOOOO to stupid add ons for a car or truck!😡
“ sir we can’t remove those”
@@MathiasJarlson but they can be negotiated or walk away. There will be another day!
You know what SONY stands for. Their salesman would always say, “We have that technology, Soon, Only Not Yet”
ok... when exactly did sony start making cars? ok, wtf? at the end of the video... their movies are already shit... "hey! let's make cars!!"
Our LHS is at 285k miles. Drives like it should. First engine and transmission. We love our Mopars!!
They also sold data to Allstate. Talk about that lawsuit.
We have an 08 tundra sr5 4 door pick-up with 160 k miles. Fully paid off and so far still runs great. ❤
Looked seriously at the Grand Cherokee to replace a well used Yukon. Turned away due to long term reliability. Bought a GX550.
I remember when 'Chrysler Engineering' meant something, back in the 50's and 60's.
I don't hate CDJR but they've lost their way. They used to have a value proposition with styling/features cheaper than their competition but no longer. They've let many products die or languish and priced themselves out of reach for their core customer of 10 - 20 years ago.
I have never seen Ray so fired up.
I drive a 2019 ram 1500 classic (big horn edition) 20k miles on it.
I never had any issues with Ram
Ford I had nothing but issue after issue.
Chevy I never liked.
Almost went to Toyota Tundra but they have junk motors for the last few years.
America won't allow any other companies to come in and challenge them or allow you to get a cheap and reliable brand that's not controlled by the Government
Toyota is not a truck
I hate them too unless I get 35% off minimum.
The only way I’d drive a Stellantis or Ford vehicle is if they paid me.
35% off minimum
I can't imagine someone is worse than Ford. Buying a new Bronco last year with a trade-in was the worst experience i have ever had buying a car.
Lucky ! Owned 2 Ram Cummins Dually,s. 15 mpg easy towing. Only complaint was rust too soon. Inside the lower doors. 1 Ford Dually Thunder poop. 7 mpg loaded or not. Drove like a dream ,rode great, ate Diesel like a Pig!
Stellantis brands are bad duh. Anyone buying them is a fool
Chrysler is a piece of junk. In 1994 I bough Chrysler DHS. Transmission completely disintegrated after 30,000 miles. At that time if wasn't even variable transmission. It is sad that after 100 years they are still unable to manufacture cars.
I don't understand how these vehicles started selling in the $80s to $100.000.00. They are not a Mercedes-Benz. Play american-made cars and they should not be over $50,000.
Maybe they can sell their overpriced vehicles at greatly decreased prices to the people in LA. All the burned up cars make me want to cry.😢
You could've just used the word Stellantis, and saved the trouble of writing the 4 brands of trash, I mean!, auto makers!!!
Naaaaaaaa those brands sucked LONG before Stellantis, half a century back those brands were poor quality crap
They just can’t figure out that the immediate gain of pinching Pennies and cutting corners on quality and reliability….results in the erosion of customer loyalty. And that erosion is passed down through generations. My daughters, having seen me fixing my jeep nonstop and cursing, will NEVER buy that brand. And I’ll be sure of it also. I’ve already told them it’s a POS.
If 72 % of dealers don't trust the company imagin how the employees who designed, built and tested the vehicles feel. Fired engineers no notice, laid off workers and closed facilities that were negotiated into the contract by the Union. Poor quality is directly tied to unhappy workers. If the company doesn't care about the worker the workers don't care about the company and it's products.
Stella this is leading the pack in the enshitification of the auto industry. What makes me sad is every other manufacturer seems to be following suit. Looking at you, GM, removing CarPlay from EVs!
The only way the manufacturers can do now is to lower their prices down by 45% and start building cars that are reliable and do not have recalls
They forgot the free turn signal fluid changes and replacement muffler rattler bearings for life… prorated of course.
guessing "forever start" is some sort of battery replacement program... "if your battery needs to be replaced within the first 525,600 minutes after purchase, we'll replace it... with a cheaper battery... well, a crank you can use to start your vehicle... if you are the hulk."
Have over 50 years experiance attending dealer auctions. Bought and sold thousands of vehicles without one complaint to the Utah motor vehicle enforcement division. Chevrolet pickups had far more problems than Dodge or Ford. My mechanic once threatened to quit if I didn't stop buying Chevrolets. Just bought a new 25 Ram SST and next year I will be driving a 26 Ram or Ford.
Both great trucks!
It’s a shame since RAM is the best looking pickup..The Challenger is a a cool muscle car & the Hellcat Durango is the baddest SIUV…
I wouldn't be surprised if Stellantis ends up dropping Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram entirely. Like phase them out one by one. That'll be scary if a car company could phase out 4 brands at once. But i guess it could happen. They're not going to split CDJR.
They’re gonna split and they’re gonna move CDJR back to the US
@DesertCoyote-t5k If Stellantis were to split CDJR, they would've announced it to the news media, and all of the news channels would be talking about it. There's no way that Stellantis would silently split CDJR without the media knowing about it.
@@garrettsmith2654Check around the end of January for the announcement 🤫😶🌫️.
Dealers need to change the way they do business. This “sell them SOMETHING “ if they set foot on your lot has got to go.
Full synthetic oil change is $120 bucks every 6k miles. Definitely not $50 bucks every 7500 miles
Prob thinking regular oil change
It’s sad what a bad reputation they have. Used to want a hellcat but couldn’t come to terms with being associated with the owners and stereotypes
We've always hated Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep & Ram.
Now they are all Fiats
@@Zeus-dw1cx lol, they were bad to begin with. becomming a fiat didnt help!
Hey, now my 1967 GTX 440ci, Dana 4.10 rear positraction, automatic transmission couldn't be beat along with multiple 69 GTX's with the same drive train were AWESOME!! 😂 Too bad, Stilantis screwed up Chrysler, Jeep, etc. 😢 Poor quality...!..
@@herbertfranco5826 okay we can make an exception for pre 1970 vehicles. byt 1975 onward is junk. Jeep was always the crappy cheap thing you bought then had to spend 20k in aftermarket upgrades to make it usable off road. they had a good model here or there but in general? crap. good for highschool guys getting their first car. Grand cherokee for $1500 bucks all day. Drive it till it explodes and repeat.
I don’t know about everyone, but I sure do…In my 50 plus years of car ownership, I have never owned a Chrysler product…I just considered them junk…
I'm with Ray , these up charges are horrible, will never trust anybody again in this industry , most even the union workers putting them together , never laughed so much listening to him explain this crap the dealers are getting away with
Say it, don't spray it Ray 😆
Complete garbage vehicles with bad engines and Ford and chevy right behind them and now honda is catching up with them
Has anyone else noticed how many jeeps are on used car lots these days?
After these hurricanes and fires out in California, think they might now get rid of lots of these cars and trucks that were only setting on lots past year or 2.
So much bad-mouthing, I have a 150K Jeep Cherokee Limited (2015) that I have driven all over North America, including many mountain miles, zero problems, (other than the stupid start-stop), and getting worried that when I try to trade-in and do another 10 years with a new dream Mazda , I’ll get offered twenty bucks, a free cup of coffee and a box of Kleenex to suck up my tears. 😂😢
My 2020 Grand Cherokee has been flawless. Purchased new for $35,500.
How is a 90k car help the affordability crisis ? 😂
Domestic selling expensive pieces of crap.
After following the Macmaster on TH-cam, and his Taycan EV nightmare, I am surprised that Porsche made the most trusted list. Granted, he's just a consumer and not a dealer, but I thought there would be some correlation. No?
I have a major soft spot for Chrysler, especially the brand. Always considered them the pluckiest of the Big Three, with out side the box thinking. Push button transmission, Torqueflite, Torsion-Aire ride, minivans, and more. I hope they get their act together, hopefully not being bossed around by European companies. My 2014 300 C with the hemi is a dream.
Could you give us more info or your thoughts on the Scout.
Yea wat happen when manufacture goes out and shut downn who gonna fix these vehicles
Even before stallantis I never liked dodge “quality”.
Sad to say Ray is really out of touch on the oil change rate at least in my area might cost that/close to that if you do it yourself with no labor. And no way that vehicle is lasting 300k miles if they only cover an oil change at 7500 miles.
Honda Afeela your entire wallet drained after your first car payment. 😏
😂🤣😂
I want to overpay for an unreliable car with a greedy dealer network. Any ideas?
Not so much CDJR but the parent company….just the dealers are getting the blame because they are the face…..some dealers probably more than others but you get the idea.
Thought Toyota was slipping down, maybe I misheard. 🤔
My last Jeep was a Grand Cherokee Limited. Worst vehicle ever owned, NEVER, EVER even consider one. Pure junk. So glad I dumped it.
Oil changes at my Toyota dealer in Arizona are about $120. Just a data point for you when talking about Lifetime Oil changes
You been robbed!
Its not that people hate it. Its all the bs with all the cars and trucks.
Excited for new CEO!
That a pretty libelous title there.
Oil change $90.00 with coupon at Valvoline both in NorCal and SoCal.
*Toyota Sienna.
This old news ,new ceo
I also don't hate any of the four. Clickbait title, be better guys.
Go away.
Man I don't know at this point if I should even try to buy a ram . Most of the comments are bad. Only a few people love the ram and it seems like when ram was part of dodge they were more reliable.
Hope thay start selling through Amazon, bypass the games.
CDJ Service department is garbage is you ever need repairs
Ive had 3 caravans. can't say anything too wrong about them. latest one is 2015 though. things have changed I'm sure. as everything else
Here is a story about a guy that really HATES Cadillac!
GM Can’t Find a Bumper to Fix a Man’s $86K Car
th-cam.com/video/NiP5V7le5qA/w-d-xo.html
Id say they have learned to make money on timed destruction. Lol😅
100k warrant 105k engine out 😂
I have no trust in any new car or truck brand; period. They're all total junk. I've had many Toyota's in the past. Including their flagship: Toyota Land Cruisers. I wouldn't take a new Toyota for free right now.
Glad I bought my Ford Truck, built Ford tough in MEXICO.
All synonyms for crap in my dictionary.
You backlash sales people who are trying to make a living, easy target…. What don’t you get your hand in the real dirt and talk about dealerships over charging the cost of repairs internally to reduce the front gross and the salesman commission?
That’s a real dealership subject.
Recon cost is nowadays $750 for a key, $900 for 2 tires on small SUV’s, $2,000 for a Certified inspection ( plus cost of repairs, parts, labor).
In reality, it costs way less, but on paper you reduce the front official gross and by doing so the sales person commission.
Pur scam.
Don’t be a hater on sales people, they are just doing their job: making profit for them and the company.
I thought Nissan was the same and Honda nadntrusted…? Toyota was my to die for, but now…I am very, disappointed in Toyota! Toyota has lost its way.
Poor people's cars
I guess your headline is just a false pull to get you clicks. I don’t hate these brands. I own 2 now a Charger and a Jeep GC.i think you should work on fairness and go back to school so you can learn to write better headlines.
I despise any company that puts DEI and government mandates ahead of customers and stock holders. Everything the government and DEI touches turns to pure shit and the consumer has to pay the bills.
100%. DEI is good for nothing but to waste money, tryna appeal to a young and naive demographic that unfortunately couldn’t afford to pay up for nothing.
I love my Nissan
😂😂😂😂😂😂❤👍👍
Owners lease Stellantis biggest conglomerate of the worst built , worst resale in the world ,. I’m sure they ll do better selling all EV vehicles…..SMH ….
Just bought my new 25 Tungsten, wouldnt buy any other truck because there junk😂
Well it's like I've said it doesn't matter whether it's Chrysler Jeep Dodge to be the least trusted you got General Motors you got Ford got all them other foreigners I'm not going to buy anything as long as it's overpriced okay has nothing to do with it how's everything to do with hey I'm not going to go over maybe 275 month payment okay that's it and I don't buy used I buy new and I got two vehicles that are paid for an hour on the Toyota on the Chevrolet Cavalier and I'm not going to buy anything new or these high prices okay it's just that simple it doesn't matter what service to use I can go to the deal another time this is the price I would like if they can't meet it I'm out of there I'm not going to shop any dealership until I want to bring your stupid prices down I'm not paying 60 grand for a car I'm not going to buy you a strip down piece of junk that's still 48,000 screw that
AFEELA 1 = $90K + TAX & License = OVER $100K for BASE MODEL!!!!🤍🧚♀