Pultec Shootout (Warm Audio EQPWA Vs Klark Teknik EQPKT) Shred Shed

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  • We shot out a few Pultec clones on Mono tracks.
    Drums 0:24
    Electric guitar 1:20
    Bass Guitar(distorted) 2:18
    Acoustic Guitar 3:13
    Males Vocals 4:46
    Full Mixes 7:33
    Chris "SPIKEY" Goldbach / Spicoli Culkin- "Slim Fast, Die Young"
    / spicoliculkin
    (Recorded and Mixed by Chris Goldbach)
    Josh Sackett
    (Recorded and mixed by Josh Sackett)
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ความคิดเห็น • 227

  • @asemon007
    @asemon007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I have both and I can reach the same sound with any of them. The potentiometers doesnt react the same on the Klark. If in the Warm the bass is in 3 for example, to obtain the same result with the Klark may be it has to be in 5

    • @eclatant6778
      @eclatant6778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here, I totally agree with you

    • @marcuspearson6214
      @marcuspearson6214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thats a really handy comment as I did wonder. thanks.

    • @russwilson2305
      @russwilson2305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alberto Sierra -Thanks man!

    • @SirRodney4Ever
      @SirRodney4Ever 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alberto Sierra exactly

    • @carlosneira772
      @carlosneira772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the comment!

  • @homeworldmusic
    @homeworldmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was an eye-opening video, in that the naked track sounded like what I'd want as a keeper, and the FX boxes were like throwing a blanket over the speaker. Thanks for this: a really excellent demonstration.

    • @BRADRANCH
      @BRADRANCH ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lows are boosted too much. IMO , I think thats the settings more than the units,,but who knows. :)

    • @fishpotpete
      @fishpotpete หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, that's exactly what I was thinking as well! I guess we now know each unit can cut out the top end just fine 🙂

  • @blznsaddles
    @blznsaddles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Klark's biggest sin is that they didn't make it blue...

    • @CurtisGabrielMusic
      @CurtisGabrielMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I would be inclined to agree but actually i'm loving the silver finish !

    • @vladlabyrinth6335
      @vladlabyrinth6335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CurtisGabrielMusic cause it's not a blue copy

    • @michaelcandido2824
      @michaelcandido2824 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vladlabyrinth6335 silver copy is solid state but the klark is not.

    • @cozmovox
      @cozmovox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      take out the knobs paint them blue and they WILL sound better !

    • @NoQualmsTheArtist
      @NoQualmsTheArtist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The mastering pultecs are silver like the klark teknik.

  • @guitarbreak88
    @guitarbreak88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i just upgraded from a pair of yamaha hs7 to 8040 genelec, and i've seen this video many times......
    with the hs7 this was almost an even mach.
    but with better monitors the WarmAudio is a clear winner!
    it keep things alive and organic
    please don't judge on cheap monitors

  • @fibboobbif
    @fibboobbif 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In my small studio i used Shure Beta 58, Neumann U87 and AKG 414 for rock vocals, depending on the singer and band recording options.... Now i recently tried my old Neumann Gefell Tube mic with a M8 capsule (M7 was too expensive) with the EQP-KT and KTs LA-2 clone... The latter is really better than my old UREI LA-4, which takes some presence when compressing harder., and the EQP-KT is correcting the lacking presence and bass response quite good. I would say both of those machines are very easy to handle and do not destroy the original sound, instead enhancing vocals to be used in the mix without or with less further plug-in procession. Especially the Beta58 with the compressor/limiter plus the "Pultec" sounds amazingly nice when you record under live/rehearsal conditions with loud instruments playing that would affect the vocals severely if you use large condensers. In other words, the difference between recording with those tube gear, compared to only (chap?) standard gear and plug ins, is the possibility to make the vocals come thru better, even when they are very low in the mix. And they still sound rich and warm and embedded, instead of cutting through the mix like a too sharp knife.

  • @juanmanosalva9320
    @juanmanosalva9320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I believe the warm audio is increasing the level, is very hard to do a critique listening, you know, “the louder the better”

  • @fakshen1973
    @fakshen1973 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The Warm sounds more musical to me, especially on the electric guitar.

  • @chuckjuice1317
    @chuckjuice1317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I don’t really like a studio purchase to come down to cost differences but I went ahead and ordered a pair of Klarks...in my mind I can always change out the tubes for some Mullards or NOS Russians and have money left over.

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The tubes in these were stock. I have heard from friends that Genelex Gold Lion tubes really do a number for the Klarks.

  • @xRiseAgainstx
    @xRiseAgainstx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Good vid! Although even when these are off they still run through the tubes, so if they are in series the last one will sound different because of that. All depends on your setup of course

  • @jasonringelstetter7206
    @jasonringelstetter7206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You all realize both boxes are effecting each other because the bypass of the "Pultec" circuit still goes through the tube output driver card and output transformer. I.E. While the KT is bypass, you are still hear it AND it's coloration is being driven further by the Warm Audio. Just to be clear, what you are hearing is both units in this video.

    • @ryanpwm
      @ryanpwm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thats not how the routing was done

    • @willb3698
      @willb3698 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He would have to be a complete moron to set this up in series. Why on Earth would you think he did this? It would be stupid byond belief etc.etc. Maybe you should have another listen with headphones to see that it is done with 2 discreet lines. Just to be clear what you are hearing here. (and maybe read his responses to questions like this).

  • @Yannickl96
    @Yannickl96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think I prefer the WA on anything except for bass with the proposed settings. The KT sounded kinda boxy for me on the vocals.

  • @matthiasstock9620
    @matthiasstock9620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If you like the KT or the Warm seems to be a matter of taste but in the end I have the feeling they just colour the sound but not improve it. The untreated signals sound better to me in all examples.

    • @canecreek00
      @canecreek00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I was listening and was thinking the same however the treated signal will probably sit in a mix better as the harshness was removed, which i guess is the goal.

  • @baberufus
    @baberufus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for this very helpful video...I have the klark but you just made me realize that I need one of those warms too!

  • @marco.trerotola.filmmaker
    @marco.trerotola.filmmaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very nice test, but I think than the klark it needs more boost on the basses frequencies for real test (Klark for the price is good), thanks for sharing!!!

  • @MrTageamu
    @MrTageamu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Warm Audio for me!

  • @RobertoDeNegro
    @RobertoDeNegro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually like them both for different reasons. I think the Warm audio is the work horse that improved the sound of most of the material that went through it, the Klark seems to excel on acoustic guitar sounds. I would use a pair of WA EQP's on a mixbuss. I think you could use a pair of the KT EQP's on the mixbuss if you needed a cleaner, lighter sound. I'll take two WA EQP's and a KT EQP's asap.

  • @alone66666
    @alone66666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The warm audio seems to sound a lot better, I am just not sure if it is because it adds more to the sound or because it is like 2db louder on every single example? xD

    • @carljohnson9096
      @carljohnson9096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or 3 times more $$$ but still KT is DOA and just ... whats that word ... SHIT!

    • @tiredSPACE22
      @tiredSPACE22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carljohnson9096 is it really that bad?

  • @alexyoungbased
    @alexyoungbased 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Klark really shines on all the mix bus examples. Tames the mids and highs perfectly.

    • @christopherdunn317
      @christopherdunn317 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its garbage ! all you people bought into this nonsense !

    • @alexyoungbased
      @alexyoungbased 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have both a real pultec and klark, the klark is fine. build quality is not great however@@christopherdunn317

  • @johnmorrison5502
    @johnmorrison5502 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Warm Audio sounded better on almost everything but I’m going to buy some Klarks. I’m still running on 2 AudioArts 4100 parametric eqs.

  • @user-yd2dx2iy5x
    @user-yd2dx2iy5x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think both are very good an clear... with a good neuman, soyus or warm, antilope micro it will sound very cool!

  • @jossuecastaneda8135
    @jossuecastaneda8135 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very solid review and comparison. Thank you.

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks DUDE!

  • @PBHorrorGaming
    @PBHorrorGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you get closer to the WARM by increasing the boost on the Klark ?

  • @andreyandrey260
    @andreyandrey260 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I understand that you did not connect the devices in parallel? If you turn on/off devices using a bypass, it means that this is a serial connection.
    If you want to get a correct, fairly accurate result, then you need to connect them independently. And so it turns out that the signal passes through both devices and is then summed. Pulteks color the sound even when in bypass. I will be glad if you give me feedback

  • @riktascale4
    @riktascale4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the WA very much.

  • @2ndAveScents
    @2ndAveScents 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Warm justifies the price difference on vocals alone.

  • @liamhebden8857
    @liamhebden8857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sometimes the same units sound different... you just use it differently. Use you ears not memory of settings.
    These are not set to the same settings either...
    But you will need to use your ears anyway.
    The KT range is fine for people on a budget.
    With the price of 1 of the other you can make a 8 channel mixer with the price of the KT units.

    • @liamhebden8857
      @liamhebden8857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Although I will say their units are better for adding a sound rather than fine tuning things.
      This is what you pay for in the other units.
      I might get a bunch to make a fancy summing unit and only use them to add character not fine tune things.

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      These we're set to the same setting but it looks different because the knob layout isn't the same between the warm and the KT

  • @mealheirodiscografica6493
    @mealheirodiscografica6493 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It feels like the Warm Audio changes the tonality of the signal. In some instances it could be a strength but neither of them are a “one tool for all”. The Klark tends to be a bit darker when compared to the Warm, but yet again, this could favor it on “bass inclined tracks”. I’d rate this 50/50. Despite the price difference, I think it’s a matter of taste at the end and not really on the technical aspects, as they both have strengths and weaknesses that favor them on different scenarios.

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. I personally prefer the warm, it can always be set darker or to taste. To me the HF band on the Klark seemed a bit "unresponsive" and "soft" compared to the warm. The lower end on the warm was also much more immediate and hard sounding, Both are great in their own rights. Thanks for watching!!

    • @mealheirodiscografica6493
      @mealheirodiscografica6493 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shred Shed exactly the point. Great content!!!! Definitely makes us see things in a much different perspective.

  • @ravenshadevox
    @ravenshadevox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Klark is $300 at Sweetwater, warm is $700. Warm sounds better but does it sound $400 better?

    • @71dhwand
      @71dhwand 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is what I am saying ! Is it worth that much more. Just swap out your tubes to get a better sound out of it.

    • @lightafluident.9950
      @lightafluident.9950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Warm Cost more for a reason. Better parts insides.

  • @Rareos
    @Rareos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    but are these chained together? I could be wrong, but If you're just bypassing one and flicking on the other, the signal still goes through the tube stage of both.

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it was a stereo track summed to mono ran in mono to both sides at the same time.outputs we're separate ; )

  • @ClangLab
    @ClangLab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They are both astonishing and more similar than I thought. I think the Klark is less accurate and introduces too much distortion in the low-end.

  • @danselmix
    @danselmix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can hear the differences but honestly almost everything in this examples sounds better without the EQ...if I have to decide based on this audios I preffer to save my money for anything else or buy another EQ, but I guess in this case it´s just the EQ settings and not the gear

    • @BigBadWolf..............
      @BigBadWolf.............. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Daniel Anselmi
      I don’t usually see people get this upset over gear. That’s a little bit over the top. I mean really it’s just cause people want more knobs.

    • @Birchblaze
      @Birchblaze 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @mister poopies Hey poopies, chill. Maybe post a video so everyone can see how awesome you are?

    • @vontreherumaiBH
      @vontreherumaiBH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel I agree bro , I thought I was the only one .. it’s probably his settings on these units .. they both sound like their compressing and not lively’n up the shit especially on vocals ..

    • @splifmandidi
      @splifmandidi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      EQ settings are not matched. And totally agree with Daniel. But thanks for the video anyways.

    • @catsandchords625
      @catsandchords625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just came across this video while looking into some EQs and totally agree that I didn’t think the settings worked well at all compared with the dry audio.

  • @Fluidstructure
    @Fluidstructure 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In this & other demos the Klark just seems to be a lot more subdued in effect, in stark contrast (to me) to the WA usually sounding very bold & upfront, even bringing out more harmonic content... I do hear some of that coming from the KT, but nowhere near as much. I was hoping the KT would impress me like the WA did... that cant be the Cinemag transformer making the diff can it??

    • @VictorMan289
      @VictorMan289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, this is pretty much the same way I'm hearing it too. Makes sense for the price difference. And yes, the WA has better components.

  • @MrlegendOr
    @MrlegendOr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Klark Have more Pultec feeling in low and mid: Creamy and boomy/ Warm audio is too harsh on high Frequency and too clean on low. I prefer Klark

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like both

    • @VIENTOS00
      @VIENTOS00 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard the same thing. The warm is a bit louder so I turned up the volume a bit when the klark unit cam on and it sound much warmer

    • @jvonnjvonn4688
      @jvonnjvonn4688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's that this guy ain't boost the highs this I don't know why ppl do reviews on gear an don't know what they doing he got ppl thinking the warm is harsh when he cut the highs out smh go check out a channel call raw technique studios he show the real

  • @miquifaye
    @miquifaye 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Klark sounds smoother and it sounds like there's a slight level boost with the Warm. Top end sounds cleaner on Klark and bass is a little tighter.

  • @DrUmSensitive
    @DrUmSensitive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would prefer the Warm on distorted guitar. I don't think you can get the same result on that (subjectively). Otherwise, just a matter of settings, I guess

  • @romeoneverdies144
    @romeoneverdies144 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’m getting a Klark teknik!

  • @ltprssgguitar
    @ltprssgguitar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What microphone did you use to record the voices? BTW Great test video man ;)

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Golden Age 251

  • @nicholasflores8007
    @nicholasflores8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Warm audio sounded like a pultec to me. It gave everything body and shoved it right in your face. With color and clarity. Thats an easy decision. For those of you who prefer the klark please comment and explain what it is you're exactly hearing that is attractive.

    • @franciscoa.sorianoperez7859
      @franciscoa.sorianoperez7859 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the klar has 2 or 3db less, that's why you don't notice much sharpness, look at the potentiometer.

    • @nicholasflores8007
      @nicholasflores8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@franciscoa.sorianoperez7859 I went ahead and bought a pair of both . . . The klarks are nicer in person and can be used on almost all drums . . . Gets this weird thing happening with male vocals especially in rap so for vocals I go for the warm but they are both much better in person !

    • @Birchblaze
      @Birchblaze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nicholasflores8007 Plus, I think setting both units exactly the same is a flawed test. They most likely aren't going to have the same dial sweeps, and in practical use, you're going dial in each unit to sound the best according to that unit and how it responds to the source material and how it sits in the mix...either sweetening or to accomplish a specific utility.

    • @TonyMacaroni69_
      @TonyMacaroni69_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nicholasflores8007 you got too much money bro?

    • @luissantiesteban1955
      @luissantiesteban1955 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very curious , pultec don't have harsh like WA, pultec is very musical like KT, I have pultec on my mix buss and I looking for new eq from my drums buss and KT is my election. good luck with your WA.

  • @willb3698
    @willb3698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant, thanks.

  • @evanmcdonnal
    @evanmcdonnal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been loving your comparisons with all this WA gear, this one though I think is a bit flawed. If I'm not mistaken that switch is only bypassing the EQ, which would mean your source audio is still being modified by the tubes in both units at all times, no?

    • @emo10001
      @emo10001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I was wondering too. The source seems to be passing through the tubes of both units at all times...only bypassing the eq on each unit. The tubes will color the sound regardless of eq. The signal needs to be split and sent through one unit at a time. Or from your daw, duplicate the tracks, send a track to each, then solo each one individually.

  • @rdigitalrecords
    @rdigitalrecords ปีที่แล้ว

    Woow genial gracias tenia dudas por cual desidirme si duda warm audio

  • @royalemuzikproductionz
    @royalemuzikproductionz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can anyone put a link to upgrade the tubes to a higher spec for the klark Teknik ? Great comparison. Nice video 🫡

  • @krissheehy
    @krissheehy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The Warm Audio unit had more clarity. I felt things getting muddy with the Klark Teknik.

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The warm sounded more refined and punchier. I do the the value in the smoothness of the klark too. I would use the warm on more sources but the Klark has it's own vibe too. Cheers!

  • @nickyj8386
    @nickyj8386 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison, and interesting to read the comments on what everyone likes. Gut feel for me is the lows on the Klark Teknik were easier done, the WA did mids very easily and the highs the WA won - just sounded 'airier'. Seems like the KT might have a bit more tweaking to get it into the sweet spot, ive just bought 2 to use on Stereo Busses, and to fatten up lows on Synths and Drums. Was also intruiged by the Acoustic Sound, not much being done but probably because it was all there to begin with! Thanks for posting

  • @MustafaAlbazy
    @MustafaAlbazy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's a clear boxiness tone in the Warm Audio. And with KT there's some obvious mud .... Hmmm

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I liked the warm better, Cheers!

    • @MustafaAlbazy
      @MustafaAlbazy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShredShed I could use both with no problem tbh, as minor things like that only noticeable when comparing head to head.

  • @hakangurdol
    @hakangurdol 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The both devices sound good, can be use on m/s on mix bus for stereo.

  • @chrismcdermott7766
    @chrismcdermott7766 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for me, there's only two reasons to use a pultec style hardware instead of a plug in. No. 1 is simply running vocal through it with no eq simply for what the circuitry does to help bring the sound to life. The other is the 100hz trick of boosting and cutting simultaneously for a beautifully compressed low end. I wish someone would do comparisons based on that.

  • @RiverCityJunctionBand
    @RiverCityJunctionBand 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting. I found the Klark sounded less "EQ'd" & more natural than the Warm. I found it kept the tone of the source material intact, whereas the Warm seemed to color things more...

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some may take that as the Klark not doing what it is supposed to ; )

    • @synesthetica
      @synesthetica 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShredShed From what I've heard so far the Klark has a wider Q on high boost, which is why it may sound more natural, but it's not that great for larger boosts. In the Sweetwater shootout they posted graphs and there, too it looks like the Q is a bit wider than in other Pultec clones.
      To me Klark sounds less obviously EQed in the sense that I don't hear pronounced scooping as in Warm. Both are great, but I like the tight and clear low-end on the Klark more. Warm sounds a bit boomy. I'm talking this based on Sweetwater shootout which wasn't done properly as Klark was 1.2dB more quiet then the rest, so keep this in mind when listening.
      It surely sounds different than the original Pultec with a wider high boost and tighter low, but what we need to ask ourselves is "Do we like that?" It it usable? Does it sound good despite being different? My answer is YES. I've build a Gyraf Pultec clone, but I like the low end clarity I hear on Klark more. I'm not sure about the high band, but I guess I'll just have to buy two of them and try them out on mixbus and mastering scenario following my Vari-Mu compressor. I suppose Klarks will be perfect for the job with their tight low boost.

  • @maysonstorm4956
    @maysonstorm4956 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. This is a far fairer comparison than pitting them against the originals that they are inspired by or "cloned after". I look at them like plugins that are modeled to do the exact same thing. I have been a professional engineer since 1998 and a full time studio owner since 2005. I've worked on vintage Pultecs, 1176s, LA2As, Fairchild and a lot of other revered (and expensive) "holy grail" processors and I sold one of my Urei LA76s and bought two of the Warm units. And guess what, I don't regret it one bit because in a full mix and dare anyone to distinguish between which track was mixed on what unit. I also have some of the Klark stuff, Stam Audio, and a host of plugins that sound damn good.

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing man! Cheers!

    • @eddysel10
      @eddysel10 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you provide your opinion on the Stam Audio processors? Thx

    • @maysonstorm4956
      @maysonstorm4956 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eddysel10 In my opinion, the Stam Audio stuff does sound better than Warm and Klark-Teknik, but the differences are very subtle. The Stam units are definitely worth definitely worth the monet; but then again, so are WA and KT. Like I said, there are no night and differences, but there are some.

    • @eddysel10
      @eddysel10 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maysonstorm4956 Thanks. I have just send Stam Audio a mail requesting info to buy from them. It is a pity that their products are not readily available. It seems like you have to pre-order and it is not clear how long you have to wait. I will order their SA-76ADG right away to. Later their SA-23A+ and SA-4000 MKII. I still have to decide if I buy their pultec version too (SA-EQP1A) or the warm audio one.

  • @volgalgzkaradagoglu
    @volgalgzkaradagoglu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked Klark more on drums. Somehow drums sounded boxy on WA but I liked WA on electric guitars and bass more

    • @Polentaccio
      @Polentaccio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same but to be honest, I liked the guitars with zero compression anyway so that would nudge me closer to the teknik

  • @stevedoesnt
    @stevedoesnt หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s just so unbelievable to me that anyone would set two units for comparison by setting the knob to the number instead setting them by ear.

  • @scottharris7222
    @scottharris7222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the shootout.. Nicely done.. Do you have any thoughts on the ouput level differences between the units? The warm did seem louder in all the audio comparisons and I wondering if volume leveling via the gain on the Klark would get them in the same ball park. It is truly a question and not rhetorical. Anyone have some thoughts on that specifically.

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The warm had more top end which I think made the perceived loudness higher. The top end on the klark seemed "tamed" to me

    • @scottharris7222
      @scottharris7222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShredShed - ok that makes sense thanks for responding.

  • @piotr803
    @piotr803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's weird. You really chose settings (especially for Klark) that made it sound worse in several cases than unprocessed audio. Also, Klark sounds a bit compressed (e.g. in the bass and guitar), which is a bit odd (maybe it's the tube circuit squashing the sound?). Anyway, thanks for the comparison even though I felt the eq settings were not the most favourable for the Eqs.

    • @vontreherumaiBH
      @vontreherumaiBH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly wat I said

    • @larrytan73
      @larrytan73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vontreherumaiBH you guys missed the point! sometimes you have to go a little extreme. Everyone doesn't have a trained ear! Plus it doesn't translate well through TH-cam! I had to use earphones .....I'd rather be there for the RAW test! That's the best way to me!

  • @Donato2082
    @Donato2082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why the warm audio has different boost on high freq?! For exemple in drums, warm audio boost 8K and Teknik boost 4K?!

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are the same. The parameter layout is different on both units. If you look closely you will see the frequency and bandwidth knobs are in opposite locations...

    • @willb3698
      @willb3698 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      *sigh*

  • @jamessigmon4765
    @jamessigmon4765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    On my reference cans I prefer the Warm audio, but on a few sets of cheap earbuds I vastly prefer the Klark. Strange as it may sound, I'd go with the Klark as most consumers would be listening on subpar headphones lmao

    • @steveburns6912
      @steveburns6912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eqp-KT distorts mids much more pleasantly... to my ears listening on a cell... definitely more transparent... maybe more headroom?

  • @brookbilney761
    @brookbilney761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’d go for the Warm but it does seem that there’s a gain difference between the two with the Warm unit being louder. That obviously effects judgement. Also, not hearing the devices in context makes it difficult to judge. Maybe the Klark sits right in the mix?

  • @craigyoung4068
    @craigyoung4068 ปีที่แล้ว

    It may just be me but when the KT EQ is engaged there is a drop in volume.

  • @jesusflores2121
    @jesusflores2121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Warm sounds better. Slightly clearer and warmer. Better bottom end threshold. I hear changing the tubes will make a difference. I used Gold lions for my Art Pro and it made a big difference. What do you think?

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gold lions are killer!

  • @H4NDCRAFTED
    @H4NDCRAFTED 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Warm audio seems better on drums , especially the mid to high

  • @jsaulkane5893
    @jsaulkane5893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    be nice if they were the same volume.. for my money the klarks are slightly less coloured.. the warms are not a nice warm.. more just a bit muffled.. pultecs are warm and clear.

  • @BRADRANCH
    @BRADRANCH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the warm version. Blanket sound on KT but I wish I could reach through the screen and adjust the settings. They may be set the same but dont respond the same. Dialed in they may sound closer. Nice video man. Thanks for posting. These are very hard to do. :)

  • @chrisdouglas9591
    @chrisdouglas9591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the shootout! I'm wondering how the signal chain is routed for this test. If the audio is passing through both units, the transformers in the Klark are affecting the audio even when the EQ is in bypass mode. I'm not sure if the Warm is wired this way as well. Just something to consider.

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Douglas we fucked up and ran them into one another. 🤷‍♂️

    • @chrisdouglas9591
      @chrisdouglas9591 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ShredShed😂 good to know! Just saw this

  • @giovannic8553
    @giovannic8553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Warm Audio is powerfull on bass and drum.
    Klark is magic on acoustic.

    • @user-yd2dx2iy5x
      @user-yd2dx2iy5x ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree, same here, for me Klark sound awesome with vocal as well ❤

  • @Capons_Place
    @Capons_Place 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Warm audio IMO has character, brings more harmony and full richer sound.

  • @ToHerbiarz
    @ToHerbiarz ปีที่แล้ว

    Much more sizzle on klark. Rounder sound for WA EQPWA

  • @donatellodiclemente7527
    @donatellodiclemente7527 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good tryout. But comparison should be A-B, not A-B-C. Bypass switches should have been toggled simultaneously.

  • @yobhsiFehT
    @yobhsiFehT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wish I could get the Warm with the bigger power and bypass switches of the Klark 🤔 lol

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yobhsiFehT thats probably easy to mod

  • @jjwhittle8873
    @jjwhittle8873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Warm sounds surprisingly boxy compared to the the Klark.

  • @TheKenMasterz1
    @TheKenMasterz1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Klark feels like its personal warm feels personal but sounds like its saying i want to share this with the world 🌎 warm audio feels up my bose headphones giving me a more immersive experience with these tracks that are being played. More top end coming out of the warm but. If ive never heard the warm audio i would think klark was king 👑 having limited knowledge on this stuff myself. Great video nice comparison tracks too! 👍🏻

  • @davidrevan1374
    @davidrevan1374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, this is analog hardware. Same settings on 2 differents manufacturer will not produce the same sound. Samething if you compare between high range devices. Comparison would have more sense if you do tone matching of the two units.

  • @ShredShed
    @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you liked this video make sure to show some love and HIT DAT subscribe button ; )

  • @americareal3
    @americareal3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2 - Klark Teknik's ZERO REGRETS!

    • @DJURBANBG
      @DJURBANBG 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      why two ?

  • @johnnybrit804
    @johnnybrit804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After this video i want a Klark Teknik! Beaultfull!!!!

  • @LogicKeyz
    @LogicKeyz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Warm hands down.

  • @horvathjanos9636
    @horvathjanos9636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Warm 3D Kt 2D sound. The heights of kt are more alive. Warm basses are fatter and round high.

  • @johnsweda2999
    @johnsweda2999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes I was thinking about getting a warm audio it's got a better sound, I was wondering about tube rolling what tubes does it use?
    How does that warm audio compare to a tube tech any idea... which is more like the original pultec
    The warm audio you can change the output gain quite easily! they said something on their channel about the dealers matching output gain I wouldn't have thought this is particularly difficult if you have two units?

  • @sassas7128
    @sassas7128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    KT sounds more relaxed and natural.Warm a little bit fuzzy.

  • @studiosdoradora4722
    @studiosdoradora4722 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Desgraciadamente no sé inglés, y soy invidente ciego no sé cuándo sonaba uno u otro por favor, alguien podría hacerme una síntesis de los comentarios de la calidad de ese ecualizador WA? Gracias

  • @SupernovaSun77
    @SupernovaSun77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Warm is hardware
    Silver is a plugin.

  • @brokenegg4714
    @brokenegg4714 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the klark teknik, after hearing this im going to trade it for a warm audio one.

  • @mdelonghi406
    @mdelonghi406 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the bandwidth \ bell is zo low dealt in. That's not handy because that the frequentie almost that what you cut or boost always wrong. the klark sounds less FX more natural. Wa sounds more as a tone box. But what's in your sound you never get out. Thus the klark is more useful. But in this example the too are link together TK -> WA so the WA gets the warmte from the KT.

  • @guitarbreak88
    @guitarbreak88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    EQPKT lacks of air in the highs, but for the price is really nice!

  • @TecDruid
    @TecDruid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ich glaube heraus zu hören das der KT alleine schon beim Bypass einschalten schlechter klingt. Und die Tiefe und Brillianz frisst. Aber das ist nur mein Eindruck aus dem Video.

  • @ATreeForFive
    @ATreeForFive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dumb question : Would i get good vocal results if i plug the Klark Teknik into my Sound Card (Audient ID4) ?

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You would need to run the mic into a preamp first.

  • @tyrone05
    @tyrone05 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    to me the warm sounds better on the majority of what you played but there were moment i like the way the Klark Telnick sounded

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the 12k Band on the Klark was really great but i liked the warm for everything else. Cheers!

  • @Supermodelyum
    @Supermodelyum 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Erm... Not sure how this comparison works. The settings on each unit are different!

  • @DMKahn
    @DMKahn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I the only one who thought every single example sounded better before either pultec clone was engaged? These things suck

    • @willb3698
      @willb3698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's showing the difference between 2 units that do the "same" thing, with the same settings. (not how they improve a mix or whatever you think it is about). yes.

  • @eddysel10
    @eddysel10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video. I want to buy some HW equipment for my studio (clone pultecs / SSL bus compressor / LA-2A / 1176 etc). I already have warm audio equipment. I have both the WA as the Klark pultec clones in my shopping cart and needed a review like this. So thank you very much for this video. Both sound excellent but I like what the WA may do on my masterbus. On the other hand, for the price of the WA, I can buy 2 Klark and boost the high and low freq's to get the same sound (at least close) of the WA.
    Do you own SSL bus compressor / LA-2A / 1176 etc from Stam Audio (they have very good reviews) and Audio Scape? If yes, can you do a review of these processors?
    Thanks

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have head good things from Stam and Audioscape but I haven't had a chance to use any myself. Cheers!

    • @chuckjuice1317
      @chuckjuice1317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      eddysel10
      Check out the SSL SiX...I love it

    • @eddysel10
      @eddysel10 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chuckjuice1317 Ok thx, I will check some reviews. Do you have bx or waves SSL channels? How do they compare to the SSL Six?

  • @ulrichbergmann1347
    @ulrichbergmann1347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    too often they look if the knobs are on same position...but so u not get the same setting. use ears for set up the knobs. than the klarke sure sound much closer to the warm for sure.
    maybe replacing the tubes is an option. different tubes are tiny bit different balanced in bass, mids, treble and they are different when and how they go in satuaration and drive.
    i would try out JJ ecc83s and JJ ecc82, i bet this would make the Klarke sound more detailed and "rounder".
    sure the klarke will never sound total like a pultec and the warm not like a pultec, expensive transformers and other parts make the pultec a high quality unit. the warm try to sound same direction/kind but the counstruction is made more economic. the klarke is more economic as the warm.
    i think u can work with all of them. the pultec is the reference and cost his price. the warm and the klark bring the haptic and similar funtion of the passive filters. it is not the bad when the warm and the klarke got an own character and not total identical sounding. some may like the charakter of the klarke more and others maybe less. i, for example, like that the k is a bit more "gritty". only the kind of grittyness i not like so much but i think that comes from the stock tubes.
    interesting eqs both. like them both.

    • @ulrichbergmann1347
      @ulrichbergmann1347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i was checking another comparsion video. there was an pultec vs waves vs klarke. the wave i let beside. the pultec sound more "vintage". at least the lower frequencies are more prominent and the trebles more sattle. but more important is what happens in the mids. the pultec sound a bit more scooped. the k is more "open" in the mids, they are more prominent.
      in the old days when recording on tape, the tape enhanced the mids and make them more prominent. in a todays digital recording the mids are more linear, so what the klarke do can be interesting in the digital world for enhancing imortant mid frequencies for cut better throgh the mix. with the stock tubes the klarke sound a tiny bit more dirty...but maybe this lil unperfection or lil dirtyness is what is needed in a modern, very clean, digital recording. sometimes high end sound is too clean(ical) in digitals days.
      the klarke i liked a bit less with bass and kick drum...but this might depend on the reference tracks. on guitars and keys the klarke sound great. for vocals it depend a lot on the personal voice of the vocalist, can fit extreme well or enhance maybe frequencies are not fit so well to the singer...but thats always a must try with gear and vocalists.

  • @peterbigblock
    @peterbigblock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t get these comparisons that insist on using the same potentiometer settings. That’s meaningless. Set each unit to get the sound you want, and see which one sounds better when dialed in as much as possible. Otherwise you’re just doing the Spinal Tap “goes to 11” thing, setting pots to arbitrary numbers.

  • @MaPa60
    @MaPa60 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I prefer the Warm by far in this demo. Much more clarity, the Klark just seem to muddy up the mids.

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree 100%

  • @versativemusic6793
    @versativemusic6793 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please Comparation on Cla 2a Warm vs Klark...plase

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The CLA2a is a plugin? Are you referring to the WA2A and the KT2A?

    • @markolekic_LA
      @markolekic_LA 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShredShed I believe so.

    • @gusdee4844
      @gusdee4844 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShredShed yeah obviously lol

  • @thechuckster6838
    @thechuckster6838 ปีที่แล้ว

    They are two different animals.

  • @stefanosestito1029
    @stefanosestito1029 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    warm audio 5khz e KT 2Khz?? why?

  • @timothyvanslyke3511
    @timothyvanslyke3511 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the WA a bit better than the Klark

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We did too, the Klark sounded really "soft" compared to the warm. The warms bottom end and top end sounded more powerful and immediate.

    • @timothyvanslyke3511
      @timothyvanslyke3511 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShredShed I think it sounds clearer as well.

  • @MikeDeanOfficials
    @MikeDeanOfficials 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the Warm have chinese parts? Thanks

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The components are solid. Cinemag transformers.

    • @cjsinclair864
      @cjsinclair864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everything has chinese parts.

  • @MrPiratebrain
    @MrPiratebrain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I felt you didn't boost the bass enough on the klark tekniq

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both units were set up exactly the same.

    • @VIENTOS00
      @VIENTOS00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShredShed The only problem is that the Warm unit is definitely louder by a few db's. When I turned up my speakers so that they matched up, the klark definitely had a much warmer low end. Different companies tend to have small diferences in audio. For your next video I suggest that you match the volume with your ears or through some software cause the warm was definitely louder. I know its not my ears cause a few other people on here heard the same thing. But still a great video. I want the klark now lol. Thank's for the video

    • @jmpiiii
      @jmpiiii 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShredShed But were you matching the setup of the Klark to the Warm? Or were you matching the Warm to the Klark? Either way, that's a faulty way of analyzing their sounds, as the one that you are matching will sound worse if they are not identical units. Because all you are really finding is that they don't sound the same at the same settings. You instead want to try to match their sounds with your ears or simply dial in the best sound on each.

    • @MrPiratebrain
      @MrPiratebrain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShredShed I wound up buying a pair of the klark teknik pultecs and the sound great. I think I will get a matching pair of the warm audios too great tools.

  • @MIxstarsOnline
    @MIxstarsOnline 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That warm audio hits a little bit harder but at double the price Im going to buy the Klarks

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The warm definitely sounds punchier and harder. The klark sounds a bit smoother and softer. both are great but if I had to die on a hill, I'd go with the warm. Thanks for watching!

    • @MIxstarsOnline
      @MIxstarsOnline 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShredShed I just bought the warm audio lol... Im in the process of converting my in the box into a Hybrid studio. I want hardware chains on each of my busses... Do you have vids or advice on which gear to buy?

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MIxstarsOnline A few pul tecs is a good start. The TK audio BC501 is a killer SSL Gcomp clone with a few added features.

    • @MIxstarsOnline
      @MIxstarsOnline 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShredShed Cool I just bought the BC501, thanks for the advice!!!!!

    • @ShredShed
      @ShredShed  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MIxstarsOnline NIce. Where do you buy your gear from?

  • @jeanyvestheriault8362
    @jeanyvestheriault8362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone on the AML ezP-1A vs those other clones?

    • @theredfaceofficial
      @theredfaceofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use both the Aml ezp-1a and a Warm eq, the AML is a little better, like a bigger sound and smoother top end. Must be the 3 Carnhill transformers instead of just 2 Cinemags in the Warm. But I love them both and you couldn’t go wrong with either.

  • @MartinMartin-yi9to
    @MartinMartin-yi9to ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing that the tracks sounds better without any of these low grade units.