How I Use Analog Gear in My Home Studio
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- Here’s how I use analog summing on my mixes.
Gear used:
Warm Audio Bus Comp
Presonus 192 interface
Klark Teknik EQP (x2)
Presonus Eris 8 monitors
Antelope Audio Edge Duo
Studio One pro 5
Dangerous Music D-Box+
Great video. Love the way you explained you process. Very simple and not over processed. Great job on the sound of that track!
thnk you for tuning in!
That boost @ 10k was the truth!
Nice work! Thanks for sharing your process.
Great demo, really like this track too
thank you!
Gotta love these Klark Teknik EQP-KT Equalisers ❤❤❤
Have you tried retubing it?
Unfortunately not
@@MixedbyToryG It’s a worthwhile effort. It can make it much, much smoother. I don’t like to spend a lot on new old stock (NOS) tubes. I try to find then when they’re a good price (about $20 each for the 12AX7 and $10 for the 12AU7). The single one I have has NOS Mazda. The 2 I have on order will have Sylvania long plates.
Thanks for the video, brother. Much appreciated.
You bet!
Thank you bro, very well explained and very helpful,keep up the good work God bless you
Can you show your io set up for the d box +? Thanks good video
Nice...after you do all this, how do you set it up to recapture it in a wav format?
Good job beautiful approach, good video.
Thank you!
Loved my EQP-KTs. Excited to get them back again! Sounds great man
I often see engineers with two EQs, whats the reason for this? Is one EQ enough?
@@DelmarJones I put them on mix bus so two is needed. Otherwise you could use two or even more maybe on guitar bus, bass, vocals. Pultecs are great! I ended up going with the WA-EQPs but I remember being very happy with the KTs too.
When getting into more analog gear you'll need to make sure you have enough I/O and expandability. I recommend the Tascam US-20x20 interface which has adat expansion for 20in and 20 out or any of the Motu AVB interfaces for more money but are expandable beyond normal means via linking multiple interfaces via the AVB connection.
@@DelmarJones two EQs for stereo . one for mono signals
@@DelmarJones for mix bus you need a stereo unit or dual mono.
Do you use them headphones on your left for mixing? If so, not a good choice in my opinion. May i surged KRK KNS-8400
No I use those for reference when bouncing mixes for listeners that may use beats headphones.
I primarily use my studio monitors
Headphones I own/use:
Beats Pro
AKG K712
Audeze LCD-1
SHURE 440
@@MixedbyToryG A small hint on the make and model of them cans would be nice.
@@JohnSAitken already listed as above…
Super dope video... is this to glue your mix together? Or would this be considered mastering or are you going into mastering after this?
This would be my mix bus glue.
perfect setup
Sounds good. Why do you need 2 analog eq’s?
For the left and right? Couldn’t you just add to the master track? I’m learning, sorry for all the questions. Would love your feedback.
Hi that’s correct. when coming out of the DBOX, the 8 channels are summed down to two channels left and right. Then I continue the signal path in input the left and right channels into the warm audio comp then back into the daw.
@@MixedbyToryG I just purchased the bus comp.. getting the warm audio eq soon. It hurts because I have to get 2 now💆🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ only planned on the 1
@@KPTheProducer yea those only come in on channel unfortunately. There are other EQ that do stereo but they tend to be about the same cost of getting two of the warm audio ones lol
@@MixedbyToryG thanks for the feedback and sub. I subbed bk. Keep dropping knowledge 🙏🏽
I like the Warm audio stuff as well. Mix sounds really good man!
Hey thanks for the love.
Bro crazy you popped up on my page!
💯
would be great to hear audio-in recordings instead of handy/cam mic.
but video is really helpful. Thanx
Yea at the time I was still learning how to stream thanks tho!
Nice ... However and Im quoting...Mix bus compression only works if you are mixing INTO the compressor, not just adding it at the end. The compressor changes the dynamics and tone of the entire mix. Adding it at the END of your mix will change everything you've been working on. It doesn't matter what compression settings you put on there.
U wrong my boy . In my opinion. Do sum more research. I wouldn’t mix into nothin. Mastering is a separate process meant for after da mix is good.
You know I’ve always been curious as to why people continued believe that mixing thru the bus comp is detrimental to the song. The only reason I can think of any benefit is to gain some slight coloration from the transformers inside the unit (which I’ve done), but to have the ratio, attack and release preset each time doesn’t make sense as not every song is the same and has the same dynamics. I would even argue that dialing in the compressor settings after you’ve achieved what you need during the bulk of the processing is best mainly for that last bit of control and glue. Why? I have found that every song is unique so why not tailor the bus comp to complement (I.e. setting the the attack and release closer to the tempo) the song in an artistic way - not just in a technical sense. For me, it allows me to compress, glue and allow some extra flavor at the end of a mix.
@@MixedbyToryG Not detrimental.. Time saving.. Dial in the Sound as you mix.. Thats the only factor that Ive found.. Time is $.. Keep on Jammin Fam!!!
@@MixedbyToryG from what I’ve been told by some engineers is that they mix into the bus compressor because they do something called top down mixing which is where you do broad strokes first such as the mix bus and drum busses and things like that and then you’ll go in and mix the individual tracks. They say if you put the bus compressor on first after you do your levels it’ll somewhat “glue” the whole mix together and it’ll help with shaping your low end especially in the mix because if you decide to compress afterwards it might make it sounds a little muddy. That’s just what some of them say of course there are no set rules to any of this. :)
Either way is OK. You mix into a compressor to already have an idea of the end sound, which yes, the compressor does change the tone, however the down sides is that because your level in constantly changing in the mix (cutting, boosting, adding fx, ect...) you'll be changing the level into the compression, which if you don't know what you're doing, could make you make weird mix decisions; those changes are radical. Using the compression at the end of the mix will give the sound of the compressor, but with any tonal changes all you have to do is tweak those certain things in the mix, which imo opens up my compressor even more more. I mix and master in the same session, so i have control of every aspect. Either way is fine, it's just a personal taste/preference; comes down to how you mix and hear music. If you only have the two track mix that you're mastering, then there are very small finite moves You can make when mastering at all, because you don't want to cause too many changes; you'll collapse the mix; in mastering the less you do the better tbh. If something changes in the master that needs to be addressed in the mix, well then that's a shortcoming of the mix. Thats OK though, because you'll never get it right the first time, and you start noticing changes that need to be made also when you reference on different sound devices, so you have to be very careful with what you do in the master. As a mastering engineer, all you are trying to do is give a slight touch up to the song; you are not the mix engineer, you're just the icing on top. Having access to the mix also while mastering is truly best, if you top down mix into the compressor or not; that is what really makes a difference. It's all about control. There is no right or wrong, only less control. If you mix or master and you do the same things every time, you'll be wrong a lot. It's part of learning to engineer, to really use your ears. You truly understand that concept when you've gained the experience.
Did ya put that song on spotify yet🔥🔥🔥
Is having one of these kt eqs not possible for mixbus ?
Yes, but maybe for mono only. Not for stereo.
Is the bus compressor the same as a regular compressor or it only for mixing ?
Technically you can use it on vocals but it s meant for a bus
@@MixedbyToryG Okay Thanks Because I Don’t Mix I Just Wanted It On The Vocals On The Way Into The DAW
Yea you’d be better off buying a LA2A style comp or a 1176 style comp
How can I set that up in studio one?
great demo man, very usable info
My pleasure!
HEY MEN GOOD VIDEO! I HCAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU DOES YOU GET HISS ON ONE SIDE MORE THAN THE OTHER I HAVE THE SAME ONES 2 EQP KT AND IM GETTING A HISS SOUND ON ONE OF THEN MORE THAN THE OTHER ONE WOUL LIKE TO KNOW IF HAPPENS THE SAME TO YOU
Nah sorry that doesn’t happen to me. I recommend trying to get ahold of customer service to see if they can assist
Dope video i definitely found a jewel here .. what level is your DAW coming out as into the chain ? If you can show the DAW level this chain is a beast …!
Thanks brother!
So my drum bus comes out at between -6 and -3 at the most. Music, vocals and bass come in some where under that. All together it’s usually around -3 then I can control the level with the trim knob on the DBOX on how hard I want it to pass through the comps and eqs. By the time it comes back I’m looking at -3 after gain matching with about 3 to 4db of gain reduction.
@@MixedbyToryG ok thanks
Is that all you need for a mastering chain ?
Depends on what gear you are planning on getting. If you’re mastering you’ll really only need enough for a two track.
Dope man! I have a similar setup with the SSL Fusion 🙏🏾💪🏾🤟🏾
How do you like the SSL compared to the Warm Audio FET Bus compressor?
@@MDC249 2 different animals doc. I have both. I insert the buss comp into the Fusion.
@@Firetracks I'm thinking of getting the fusion too. What Buss comp do you use?
@@TzoHillMan I have both the HA Successor and Warm Audio 2 Bus
@@Firetracks that sounds good my boy 🤙🏾which out of the 2 goes well with rap and hip hop mix busses for that punch and glue you think?
Awesome bro.
Thanks ✌️
@@MixedbyToryG No problem bro.
Just subscribed my G!!
Thanks!
I got da same mastering chain - da summing box. Jus got da second eqp. But I love da chain on da master buss Fs
It’s wonderful! Im about to upgrade the tubes in the eqp soon
Great stuff man.
What compressor is that?
Warm Audio bus comp
@@MixedbyToryG Thanks. Keep up the good work
Do you run dawless. I'm thinking seriously about grabbing that bus compressor. Just trying to see if you're printing everything though your bus comp. Thanks in advance
@davidleeroth357 hey! I still use my DAW. This chain is only used as the mix bus. And the mix is printed through it and recorded back into the session
Very nice bro, the Klark's are great on the mixbus. Not a pultec, different but still very good! Bus comp always nice to glue it a bit together and give it a bit of extra JUJU!
Agreed!
So this is your 2 bus chain. Just wanted to clarify. Thanks.
Yep!
you could have eqed in the Daw and spent that money on tape or saturation rack unit, nice song though, im more techno pop
Very true.
What tape or saturation unit would you suggest?
You to use this bro i was thinking about buying one
yea i still use it when i get clients that pay in full
Thank you for not using a cowbell.
only when the song calls for it! lol
Hey sounds like that Destiny’s Child . Your Sis got that fire 🔥 nice beat.....
damn that summing mixer costs $2k!!
It’s pretty beast man. Nice centerpiece in my set up