Cub Cadet CC 30 H Riding Mower Comparison, Service and Maintenance Tips
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We compare dealer vs box store models and go over service, repair and maintenance tips/tricks and information to keep your Cub Cadet rear engine riding mower operating right.
Cub Cadet CC 30 H Riding Mower Model 13C721JD010 and Cub Cadet 30" Riding Mower Model 13AC21JD010 Comparison, tune up, service and maintenance tips.
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Finally, a CC30H Cub Cadet video packed with much solid information and no time wasted with lousey music, hillbilly trapings, tobacco spitting and so forth!
Glad to help! Thanks for watching!
Good video, I've found a new place to lubricate (the front bushings).
I have a 2018 CC30H with the 382cc MTD engine. I had to put a new steering repair kit, in 2021, on mine since the metal toothed plate that engages the steering column gear became worn, since there was no plastic backing support piece to keep it properly engaged to the steering column gear. The steering repair kit part number is (753-11064B) and contains a the plastic backing support piece, so apparently MTD/Cub Cadet knew it was a problem and made this retrofit kit. It runs about $65-$75, so I did it myself. I didn't investigate the warranty since I didn't have time to mess around.
In order to help with oil changes, I added a Stens 125-508 Oil Drain Plug. You just fit 1/2" hose over it and turn and pull the plug and oil flows out nicely into a drain pan. It was quite a mess for my first oil change without it. They give you some little plastic gutter thing to direct the oil flow, but it was useless in my opinion.
Thanks for watching!
Your doing a great job of teaching people how to take care of there mowers, plus WHY it’s a must
Thank You for inspiring and for sure Advice
Thank you for watching and for your words of encouragement!
This is easily the best video ever made for maintenance on this particular mower. Bravo! Great job! I am now a new subscriber as a result. Thank you
I appreciate that. Thank you for watching!
Video of the Year !!! Thank you for this great video and for sharing your expertise!
Glad to help! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video. Will be making a purchase for next years season. Helps a lot
Thanks for watching!
tons of help for me. thanks for all the tips and advice.
Glad to help! Thanks for watching!
Great information! Thanks so much!
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Thanks, helpful video!
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Great video!
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
Thank you.Thank you.Thank you.Thank you.Thank you.Thank you.Thank you.Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the comparison.
I have the less expensive Home Depot Club Cadet. Like you say, there is a $400 difference between the mowers, yet they are identical except for the motor. Mine has the Kohler motor, the more expensive mower has the Briggs. I would prefer the Briggs because they've been around forever and maybe parts are easier to source for them. But for $400 more, the cheaper Home Depot model suits my needs.
thanks again
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Absolutely! Thanks for watching!
Great video with lots of information on the maintenance of this mower. I particularly liked showing where to lube it. Any lubrication points on the rear wheels? Thanks
Thanks for watching! Rear wheels can have the rims lubed so they don't get siezed but other than that no lube points
Thanks for being so thorough. I'm giving you a thumbs up. I am looking at this mower (for my yard ,a smaller unit like this with the rear engine this is the best way to go I think) and watching your video made me a little leery. You know your stuff so can I ask your recommendation on a comparable mower you might buy for yourself if not this one? I'm looking for something around the same price - $2000 give or take. Thanks again!
They used to make a Snapper 30" that was great but I believe it was discontinued. The only other mower I am aware of that would fit through a 30" gate would be the 30" Toro Timecutter zero turn mower. Thanks for watching!
I considered one of these mowers for about three minutes. They just have such a cheap, throwaway feeling.
Pretty much everything made any more until you spend good money...
Mowers like a JD SX75 or a Honda 3011 are much better quality.
@@dingbop963 $$$$$$
@@billimbriale As far as rear engine riders go, a used Deere or Honda is a lot less than buying a new one that's on the market. You'd most likely have to do some repairs but you'll end up with a better quality machine.
@@billimbriale Deere and Honda don't make new ones anymore.
good info
Thanks for watching
Great video, thanks for taking the time to create such a straightforward video . I have the Cub Cadet Cc 30H version and have few questions. First, how high from the ground should the deck be in the fully raised position. Secondly, is the height of the deck adjustable. I’ve had my mower 3 years and recently have noticed that even in th highest position, it’s cutting way too short. Appreciate and advice you can offer.
Leveling details start at about 10:45, just one adjustable nut. Normally 3 1/2" to 4" max on these mowers at highest height setting. They will drop sometimes over the years. You want the deck just slightly lover in the front for best cutting. 1/8" is fine just slightly lower
I agree with you. They cut too short.
I've had Briggs before, and had problems with them. A few years ago I decided to buy an inexpensive MTD made Remington mower with a 140cc Chinese made engine in it. It was supposed to tide me over for a couple of years before I moved. Well, I didn't move, and the Remington has proven to be the most reliable mower I've every owned, and I've owned Honda, Toro, Snapper and Lawnboy machines. That little engine starts up one pull, has lots of guts, uses very little gas . . . what else could you ask for? I would buy the cheaper CC no questions asked.
Sometimes cheap and simple is good as if not better than overengineered with good pr and brand recognition.
@@IndRepair Hey, I forgot to mention that I enjoyed the video very much! I'm looking into these machines because I have 1/4 acre and am getting older. It looks like they offer the automatic H version, and also a manual "shift on the fly" version. I weigh about 240 lbs, and I understand the automatic tranny's are a weak point in lawn tractors . . . do you think the manual trannies are more robust and reliable?
The automatic hydro transmission is much better. The "shift on the go" is basically cheap torque converter that they call a shift on the go. Really only has 1 gear. Get the hydro, it will last for regular mowing on 1/4 acre just fine.
@@IndRepair Many thanks, subscribed!
Very helpful video. I did a fuel filter change on my Cub Cadet and had some difficulty getting the old filter out. When it did come loose, the tubing that runs above the fuel line became disconnected. I've searched the Cub Cadet and Briggs & Stratton websites and videos, but none of those identified what the tubing was or where it should connect. Do you know which tube I'm talking about? Or where it's supposed to go? TY
Sounds like the one that connects to a nipple on the air intake right about the carburetor. Smaller tubing that fuel line correct?
Great video, the blade on my CC30H Cub Cadet is not cutting/not spinning, Can you do a video on how to replace the belt? I have not been able to find a video on how to do this on the CC30H Cub Cadet. Thanks!
I have a video at th-cam.com/video/fTrsEdoKFtY/w-d-xo.html on deck work which shows how to reinstall the deck and put the belt on but it was already removed when brought in so I don't show how to take it off
Awesome maintainence video .My cc30 h is cutting out after 5 minutes of cutting. It sputters a lot then shuts down. I wait about an hour to cut again.Im replacing the fuel and air filters but suspect I might have an issue with either the carburetor or maybe the gas tank float.Not sure exactly what's causing my mower to shut down after five minutes. Any body out there suggest a reason for my problem? The cc30 is five years old and needs some TLC but I have a four week wait to get it repaired. Thanks for the tips in this video!
Check fuel tank vent I have seen many fail to vent and cause this issue. I also see fuel flow blocked from debris in fuel line or fuel tank/filter
I agree on the MTD being a much better option and engine with proper oil system and filter
B/S is just history’s story of a failed company because of junk 😊
Definitely so!
Have you worked on the troy built or craftsman models of this same mower? The craftsman is the cheapest right now. Were trying to decide which mower to go with. Considering the ryobi electric 30 inch as well. Or maybe a 34 inch zero turn. Do you have any thoughts on those? We have a small gate to get through which is why we need the smaller mower
They are almost exactly the same as the cub cadet. I believe battery technology still has a long way to go to match power and long term cost. 34" Zero Turn is more than likely a better option...
I have a 2020 CC60H from Home Depot that has the Cub Cadet engine. I have been looking into the Drainzit Oil Drain Hoses. Would you suggest them as the drain is just below the exhaust? I am not sure how much heat would effect the drain hose. Thanks for any oppinions that anyone can offer. Alos if anyone is using one, which one did you use? I believe the drain plug is 3/8" NPT. Thanks.
They sit pretty close to the exhaust on many models including commercial units. They are a great drain hose also!
How do you level the mowing deck from side to side? The manual only has front to back leveling. I am having a problem with the right side lower at all deck heights.
Have you checked the tire pressure by chance?
Great video. Can you please show spark plug and oil filter change out. Thank you.
Fuel filter too.
Air too.
Next time I get one I will try and do a video. Thanks for watching!
That too
Full tune!
I have the mtd cc30 , and I replaced the pto cable , but it's too loose ! I routed the same way , but I have no diagram to make sure it's right
Did you buy an OEM or aftermarket cable? If hooked on both ends where it is supposed to be the routing is not going to matter (long as it is not in the way or hitting anything. The belt is still on both pulley then I take it (could it have slipped off?)?
My Cub Cadet cc30h starts making a lot of whining noise after a few minutes hauling. Not sure if I am putting too much weight in cart. Is this damaging the Hydrostatic transmission??
Hauling with a hydrostat transmission does put extra wear on it. Payload on this mower is very low without causing issues at some point
Any idea on how to increase the RPMs on the Cub Cadet CC30H , its only running about 3200 RPMs full throttle. It seems like it needs to be a bit higher to cut the grass better.
Does this have the Briggs engine or the MTD branded engine?
Hello thank for the video, I have a problem wonder if you can help me with, I have the MTD model only a year old but I have a little problem with the reverse switch, when I turn the key to the right and back to the middle and press the button the red light comes the machine starts to move in reverse and many times will out of reverse ( light off) again and again, what is causing it to keep going out? sometimes I must ease the gas to keep it from going out. (the light) help
Could be ignition switch/board bad or a bad ground/switch...I would start with the ignition...most likely culprit...makes sure wires on back are making good connection and no corrosion
Hello I like to say thanks you were right, I didn't thank it could be, because it was sometimey, but I put my hand under the ignition switch , and just push around on the wires and never had a problem since, thank you very much. thumbs up
Good job!
If it had at least a 15 hp engine I would buy it ! 🤔
About the only thing available in this size around here...I would go with a 30" zero turn over this any day but that is going to be twice as much or more money
Just ordered a Cub cadet cc30h and I'm assuming with the hydrostatic trans there's no type of belt clutch arrangement and drive belt always under constant tension with the motor and trans pulley. Is there a way to check and adjust the belt for proper tension?
There is no adjustment on the tension unfortunately. They stay under constant spring tension which should be plenty for the life of the belt. I don't see them stretch enough to slip at all so not really a need for a tension adjustment
@@IndRepair thank you, great video by the way. Was getting confused about the difference in engines etc . The MTD engines seem better with the pressurized lube and filter but the Briggs and Stratton look like they're easier to service. Think all these mowers switched to B&S during COVID due to supply chain issues and I'm sure it probably improved their margins too.
Glad to help!
Thanks for watching I appreciate that and your input!
I have this model. Blade wont engage. The handle does travel down. But its pretty stiff and the belt wont tighten. Help!!!
It sounds like the cable is bad or there is something stopping the cable from moving the idler pulley bracket underneath
My blades won't engage... I have the cheaper of the 2..... any ideas or suggestions what my issue could be ????
Is the cable moving the lever on the right hand side? Lower the deck slightly and see if it will engage then, sometimes the idler are gets stuck on the guide if at higher settings
I bought a Cub Cadet. It's a pretty good mower, but don't try to cut on even a slight hill. It's too top heavy. I'll use this until I wear it out, but will never buy another one.
Great information! Thanks for watching!
Do you know what type of oil you put in the hydrotrans?
Trans is sealed unit on these no access
Best vid ive found so far on this model.
CC says there is no adjustment of the idler pulley, but also to make sure it is properly installed. They don't really show what that looks like.
I feel like my idler pulley isn't right, as the blade never stops spinning. It certainly slows down but doesn't fully disengage. Pulley moves freely/isn't bound up.
Seems to me there is a lot of additional range of motion for that pulley to travel after I move the pto lever all the way up/disengage. At least based on being able to manipulate the pulley with the handle on it.
Any ideas?
I have seen the guide bracket at attaches to the frame bent causing this issue. Does the brake come back and make contact? How old is the unit? Could be a bad cable or return spring causing it not be be pulled back to brake
@Individualized Repair unit is about 4 years old (not sure off top of my head). Cable and spring look good. The pulley brake has a wear mark on it but doesn't seem super low. I could replace that just to check it off the list.
I am thinking likely a bent bracket at this point, from your suggestion. The brackets for engage/disengage don't seem to be moving the idler pulley mechanism and/or the brake pad on the main pulley very far. But these are all guesses. No idea what the tolerances are for either.
I'll bend some brackets and see what happens. Any recommendations for where to get quality replacement parts at a fair price?
Thanks again.
Pls tell how to disable seat safety feature. Only need for pulling yard cart on property.
I am sorry, I have made it a habit not to have anything to do with something that could be unsafe. I understand you would use it responsibly, but I cannot be guaranteed someone else would not use the machine or use instructions and cause someone to get hurt
@IndRepair thanks.. understand I realize I can get off seat wo it stopping by having in park..blades not engaged. Ty
1:15 can't get a Snapper anymore. it was discontinued last year.
That's too bad!!
I need help trying to replace the spark plug in my mower... It sits crooked! I caught hell trying to remove it, but I still haven't been to install the new one. I need help!
This is a tough one to properly fix without professional help. There is not really an easy fix for this!
Sorry I can't give better news to you! You can try to thread back in making sure all is completely straight with the plug hole but it depends on how bad the threads are
@@IndRepair Everything's still well threaded, I removed the old plug, but didn't realize why it was so difficult to do so, until I was ready to install the new one. It goes in crooked & there's no parts that can be removed to insure that the plug screws in straight. Plus, trying to squeeze in it between that little small circle is a major flaw I the design.
Definitely not easy sometimes! If the threads are still good just keep working at it by hand until you get it started and don't force it as to not ruin the threads.
@@IndRepair I will try again this afternoon. Thanks!
I have 420cc 2016 model.. no idea what motor is in.. not stamped with any manufacturer name on the motor that iv seen
Motor model is right behind the dipstick either on a sticker or printed into the engine block
I have number ..I just don't know who the manufacturer is. It's not even in the manual for the motor.
What are the tire pressures on that machine? Lmk.
30 in the fron and 14 in back normally
Is a snapper mower better than the cub?
Yes but some of them are getting hard to get parts for. If it is a more recent model I would say go for it
How do you replace battery?
Remove one bolt holding the battery bracket on top. Next remove negative wire, then positive wire. Reinstall battery/bracket. Install positive wire on new battery, then reinstall negative wire.
Iv got a 420 in my CC30. What is that all about?
Same engine as the standard MTD but bigger piston/cylinder bore or different muffler to change cc rating
@@IndRepair Any idea what it’s worth. Looks new despite being 6 years old. I buy and sell push mowers as a hobby and acquired this thing by chance
We usually sell for $600-800 in good used condition...the market has been crazy lately...seen them go for $1200-1500 earlier this year
@@IndRepair WOW. Thanks. I guess I scored. I traded a self propelled mower for it.
Nice catch!
WAIT !!! MTD __Low end snapper are made by MTD.----Cub Cadet, Troy-Bilt, Columbia and Remington, the MTD family of brands includes MTD®, MTD Gold®, MTD Pro®, Yard-Man®, Yard Machines® and Bolens®.
Low end snapper push mowers are licensed to slap the name on an MTD mower. The good Snapper riding mowers were not made by MTD. Does Snapper brand this same mower? Possibly
Just buy a oil drain hose ! 🤔
I mention this...Should be installed from the factory to begin with
I'll tell you a secret about these riders. They are ALL mfg by MTD, or, at least MTD imports them.
(I suspect these are foreign made) there are 8 different ones. orange Cub Cadet, red Craftsman, red Troy-Bilt, red Murray, orange Columbia, MTD used to sell a red one, but no more,and there is an UK model in bright yellow & a EU version in dark green. each uses various engines & transmissions. Mine is a TB30-CA with a chinese engine & california emissions controls.
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MTD Manufactures almost all of the lower end stuff in various configurations and colors across the board. Origin tags tell you most of the parts are made overseas but the assembly is mostly done in the US
The rear engine Snappers are no longer made since 2021.
Great mowers they are
Can a 6 foot tall 250 pound man use this mower without harming the drive train? Thanks
Yes
@@IndRepair Thank you for your quick response. I am 70 years old and can no longer walk behind my push mower. Getting ready to order one. Thanks again.
@@bryanwinter3289 Glad to help thanks for watching!
The steering will fail faster
These mowers and their clones are made for a certain price point. Even so, the deck might as well be cardboard because if you’re not careful, you’ll most certainly destroy it. And the steering rack and pinion setup fails quickly and YOU have to pay for the steering upgrade. $2000? There is no way I would pay that for the Briggs engine. I would steer clear of ANYTHING MTD. Any shop owner will tell you that they love MTD because it’s guaranteed business.
Yeah but what's your alternative 30" mower? Some only have gates so large
@@IndRepair Many Companies make affordable 34-36” zero turns around the $2500 to $3000 range that are way better quality. The commercial guys have the same 34 to 36 inch size decks to get through the smaller gates. Another option. Try to find a Snapper 30 even though they guilt making them in ‘21.
Snapper 30" was the option I always recommended before. Toro 32" Zero turn is closest I can offer recommendations for now and the deck isnt made much better...Many older homes have only 30-36" gates which can make it quite difficult for elderly to get through
@@IndRepair Yea, those small decks are almost always stamped steel. The Toro 32”” would be a good alternative to the MTD 30” clones if you can spend a little more money.
Shopped every dealer within a 50 mile radius of me and the only alternative was a Toro 36" zero turn. 4 dealers wanted $3,500 and one had a"demo" unit for $3,200. Lowes had a conventional type rider craftsman 36" for $2,200 that's been sitting on their floor for about 6 months.
Not much to choose from. Can't see spending $3,500 to cut a 1/4 acre lot.
Looks like the same mower as a Troy built, toro,etc. It is a problem child. Why would cub cadet want a version of it??
At least they did the hydrostat version, which is a major upgrade over the original. There is a big market for 30" riding mowers, I'm sure they wanted a piece of that cash. 💰 🤑 💸 💲 🪙 💶
This the worst crap, cheaply made American lawn mower on the market today for such a high price.
The battery had to be changed after a year of use, to cheap to hold a charge. The fuel tank is all loose in is room area, knocking all the time. Front steering gear not precise on the steering shaft.
I could add many more troubled items but I recommend not buying this thoughtless crap if you want to keep your patience...
I agree. American assembled globally made. Problem is many people have a small yard where getting a mower in is troublesome. Really the only small riding mower on the market anymore. Thanks for watching!
Pure garbage!
Problem is, nobody else sells a 30 anymore
Just found and installed B&S “twist / release oil with clear hose to help drain. before it was a $@#% pain. they provide a useless “draintube” and it’s useless
get the oil drain twist drain. such a “mess saver”
Definitely a big help! Thanks for watching!
Do you have a link by any chance? I see some options, but would like to see what you're reffering too. Thx
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