MotoMorini X-Cape 650; 2000 mile review on the XCape

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  • The good, the bad and the ugly truth about the X-Cape 650 from the Italian Brand Morini now MotoMorini. I spend 2000 miles taking this bike on a long road trip on BDR like camping trips and even proper off-road (not just unpaved) trails. Overall it performed much better than I was expecting and at it's price point it is un paralleled however it is still a budget bike and with that comes some compromises.
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  • @alexv5261
    @alexv5261 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    This was a much better review then other motorcycle channels. Thanks.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks... I try to talk about what's not on the spec sheet 😁👍

  • @BretTkacs
    @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    This bike was a MUCH better bike than I was expecting.

    • @szh4494
      @szh4494 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Morini hasn't been doing really well after Chinese acquisition. X-cape in particular isn't even successful in China.
      Americans tend think it's cheap Chinese junk. Chinese tend to think it's overpriced and overweighed fake Italian bike. In reality, it's a placeholder to keep the brand running. It was put together with a lot of quality components, but doesn't scream Italian at all.
      However, that is going to change. Look at the Milan Motorcycle show 2023 ( EICMA ) taking place this week. It seems that the brand is fully revived with a full line of models and especially with its signature L-twins. I think some of the models have more character than even Ducatis, and Morini as a brand has great potentials unmatched by other Chinese bikes. Eventually, the Kawasaki 650 engine will be phased out, and the next generation of mid displacement X-cape will be equipped with 750cc L-twins ( the X-cape 1200 they are showing now already comes with L-twins ). That will be a heck of a ride.

    • @Snowhite808
      @Snowhite808 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a coworker with lets say height challenge, who is really considering this ride. And looking at the components, on paper, it is very competent and also easy to modify.
      But what most of the europeans are complaining about is, the total lack of tech support and parts availability later on and very low resell value. Although - comparison to strom and cb is very suitable - the bike with its Brand is not.
      I will however strongly recommend the machine to some people and also see it in our workshop for suspension testing and upgrades. If it is anything like the Versys was, then there is also plenty of weight, that can be lost, if needed. And that motor was good for so many applications (we think still is). Like bikes and atv-s and all sort of lawn equipment tooo. With some muffler update, it has some nice peppy growl too.

    • @andrewang17
      @andrewang17 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this bike seems found his spot, you challenged it, so we understand.

    • @solumex
      @solumex 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A mexican guy, ride from Mexico to Alaska and then back and do something like 30k kilometers tour on Xcape 650 and made a good report on the bike with no issues apparetly, He is director of some motorcycle Magazine, so I guess , the Xcape was borrowed for test. Im considering this bike for same trip Mexico Alaska and may be Mexico Ushuaia but to be honest, parts and replacements on route worry me

    • @misfitfarm1937
      @misfitfarm1937 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry it left him stranded twice. When is it bad. (Rhetorical)

  • @VaughanClark
    @VaughanClark 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I’ve had my x cape for fourteen months I’ve done eight thousand miles and had no problem’s other than usb socket shorted out , I would have ridden more miles in time I’ve had but I four bikes . I would recommend it to anyone who wants a good solid bike . You can take off road but as you said it has its limits. Ps I live the UK and it is ridden in the wet a lot!!

  • @pelanth
    @pelanth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Backlit controls at this price point? Crazy how many premium bikes don't have that.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know!

  • @garethjones6672
    @garethjones6672 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Thanks for this review Bret, I’ve owned an X-Cape for around 18 months now and mostly use it on roads, as you say that is where it is most competent and what it was designed for. I agree however that it’s pretty competent at handling non-technical tracks.

  • @GeorgiParvanov81
    @GeorgiParvanov81 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great review Bret! Thank you for sharing this info on not so popular bikes. Not everyone can or want to afford BMW 😂

  • @damonoriente736
    @damonoriente736 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I don't see that its moderate off-road skills is a real drawback; most of us only want to do sane off pavement anyway. We can go beyond the asphalt, and places where a car won't go. Beating ourselves at high speed on rocks is limited in its appeal. Kind of funny to question the reliability of the bike, when there are KTM's in this world.
    Anyhow, thanks for a complete and honest review; really helpful. Having more choices, esp at more gently prices, is a good thing.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No one says it's a fault, it just is what it is. People get caught up sometimes in reviews like this but I am not trying to make anything look good or bad. I am jusr trying to help potential owners have fair expectations 👍

    • @damonoriente736
      @damonoriente736 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BretTkacs And you are. always helpful in doing exactly that, and thousands of us appreciate it. And we all appreciate your honest appraisal.
      However, I think that the review does suggest that falling short of the KTM 890 (and eqivalents} is a failing. Thats all I'm suggesting. I ride a Tiger 850; for me, the off pavement capability of that bike is fully adequate for my adventure riding, which does extend beyond the pavement. The MM is at least equally capable. Though I give no argument about the crap 'skid plate', hand guards, or upper spaghetti bars.
      Ahem; the Rev'it Echelon jacket and pants? Just got mine today, and I'm very impressed. Many thanks for the reply!

    • @dygon7663
      @dygon7663 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@damonoriente736 In the beginning of the review he actually says quite clearly that this bike isn't going up against those bikes, but against bikes like the CB500 and V-strom 650.

  • @codycouch2467
    @codycouch2467 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Good honest review, and the folks at Sabatino Moto in St. Johns must appreciate being featured in the video.😎

  • @andrewtreloar7389
    @andrewtreloar7389 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    1.48 - "There is a lot of people talking crap about this motorcycle who have never seen it, who have never ridden it because its owned by a Chinese parent company and because the final assembly and manufacture is in China"....nailed it Brett!! Like CF Moto, Kove and other Chinese brands, Moto Morini get much maligned simply because they are not made in the US or Japan by 'tards who have never even thrown a leg over these brands. Open your eyes peeps, Chinese manufacture has come a long way in a very short time and they should all be considered on their merits!

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is a CFmoto, even the components like the Bosch fuel injection and ECU are the same. They likely get the engines, frames and electrics from them and then put their own components on in production

    • @Fiatmannen1
      @Fiatmannen1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The bike itself is surely fine, but uld not trust the dealernetwork warranty sparepart availiability and so on.

    • @andrewtreloar7389
      @andrewtreloar7389 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fair call.

    • @MickH60
      @MickH60 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chrispekel5709 +Rubbish, that's like saying my bike is a Ducati because it had Brembo brakes, this bike has a Kawasaki engine basically, CF Moto factory is in the same area in China but it's a completely different company....Do your research....

  • @Roero
    @Roero 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is the best video review of the X-Cape that I've seen so far, truly honest as it puts it to the test regardless of the rumors about its Chinese origin.However let me point out that the engine and the chassis are obviously manufactured in China, but the motorcycle has been entirely designed, engineered, and tested by italian Engineer Massimo Gustato in Trivolzio, near Milan, where the Morini headquarters is located.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, I try to be fair. I think there is a lot of focus on China and very little about it's European designs and components

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're kind of right. It's got the CFmoto650 engine and frame, which is in itself a copy of the frame and engine used in the old Ninja 650 / ER6. So it's a Chinese copy of a Japanese design using other components with a final design by Italians. So 'entirely designed and engineered' isn't true

    • @Roero
      @Roero 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@chrispekel5709 some say it is derived from the 2011 version of the Versys 650 , of which I was an unhappy owner. Frankly, it has nothing to do with that engine in terms of torque and horsepower (despite it comes close to it). I believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle, indicating that CF built the engine based on the characteristics provided by the engineer. Additionally, CFmoto supplies engines to KTM, establishing a long history of reliability.

  • @Meatlove
    @Meatlove 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The reliability issues show it's still an Italian bike. 😉
    A year ago, I was browsing for my first bike. I looked at some of the Chinese models.
    Although they look good, the thing that holds me back the most is the retail value in a few years.
    So I bought a used V-Strom 650. Brilliant bike!

    • @target3842
      @target3842 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Chinese bikes age so fucking fast with rust.

    • @motopilot2873
      @motopilot2873 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Small reliability issues aren't exclusive to Italian bikes. Don't even get me started on my Suzuki GSX-S1000F. And my 2017 Yamaha FZ-10 with 17k miles just grenaded a motor cruising down the freeway. Thats major and going to cost thousands! Moto Morini already has a replacement fix for the fuel line issue that is an easy install by the dealer. Plus it has a 3-year unlimited mileage warranty.

    • @Meatlove
      @Meatlove 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@motopilot2873 That's why I typed the ;)

    • @podunkman2709
      @podunkman2709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Italian"? 😂😂

    • @lappi_wojak
      @lappi_wojak 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      chinese bikes are garbage, Japanese is a true qiality. V strom 650 is a great bike, but has nothing to do offroad. 800 is promising but a bit pricey

  • @dw5523
    @dw5523 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    More bikes, more affordable bikes, and more approachable bikes are a good thing. I'm looking forward to the new 450's that debuted at EICMA this year, and I especially look forward to seeing Japan and Europe's response in the coming years. All in all, it's a great time to be a rider. Thanks for the great content.

  • @rodintoulouse3054
    @rodintoulouse3054 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great real world review. Now that traditional brands are going nuts with their prices… which are only a starting point once you dig into their accessories catalogs, this new crop of Chinese and Indian bikes are an attractive solution costing half or even less than their established brands equivalents. As an amateur rider i am quite happy to own 2 or 3 Chinese/indian motorcycles for the price of one european one.

    • @daddystu7046
      @daddystu7046 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agree with all of that. Price inflation is getting silly and the accessories! Oh you can get panniers and top box for 'just' an extra 1000 - lucky us ffs! Quickshifter - that'll be 600 more. I blame the GSers - once BMW get their share of a market up goes the top end! For diminishing returns ofc.

  • @2lbsTrigrPull
    @2lbsTrigrPull หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chinese Crap. $8200 expensive crap.

  • @tommasofrittelli7408
    @tommasofrittelli7408 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The Best XCape review!

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ah shucks... Thanks!

  • @kkattrap
    @kkattrap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    That was an awesome review. I'm keeping my Tenere but damn I'm glad to see all the competition in this space and trusted offroad riders taking the time to review these new bikes.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think you just called me a "trusted" offroad rider 😁

    • @kkattrap
      @kkattrap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@BretTkacs I've seen that helmet to hat magic trick enough times to know you have skills. 😁

  • @Lt_Tragg
    @Lt_Tragg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great review! Keep ‘em coming. Looking forward to reviews on the new Himalaya.

  • @johnpoc6594
    @johnpoc6594 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm not looking to buy one of these but your review was excelent

  • @dtrex392
    @dtrex392 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One nice thing about the standard idiot lights is that they may still work if the TFT blanks out. I have a Guzzi V85TT with a small TFT and a bazillion ‘idiota’ lights.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good point

  • @motopilot2873
    @motopilot2873 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great review Bret. You didn't sugarcoat the details of the bike. It has so many features that it's hard to remember them all. I love that it has tubeless Akront wheels and TPMS (tire pressure monitor system). And a 3-year unlimited mileage warranty. Now for $1000 Off ($7,299) or you can choose their Free 3-piece hard case luggage set worth $1480. This brand is serious.

  • @alexanderivannikov7881
    @alexanderivannikov7881 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for the good review and specially for the adjustments for the fork. Such information I misst in the German reviews. Best regards from Germany.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My pleasure!

  • @vtrack1963
    @vtrack1963 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for the very balanced review. Hopefully it can help lessen some of the stigma of these Chinese built bikes. It seems bikes like this one and others from Benelli (TRK502) and some of the CFMoto bikes (650 Adventura and Ibex800) will allow more people to get out to ride and seek adventures. Most Adv bike riders just do simple unpaved surfaces when not on pavement. These bikes are all good enough for that and highway travel with some luggage. More people riding is good for our community. The traditional bike makers are pricing many of us out of riding.

  • @davelariviere682
    @davelariviere682 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like your unbiased view.
    As much as I like my KTM And BMW I have ridden two of the ‘other bikes’ and really enjoyed them. I would consider this one to add to my stable for sure.
    I appreciate your thoughts and views. (I spotted you at the Mexican Restaurant in Packwood WA and thought you were my size and weight)

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You should have said hello 👍

  • @mullins6429
    @mullins6429 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks Bret, really enjoyed having a look at that machine. I’m with you on the whole imbalanced look with mufflers and luggage.
    Those mufflers that hang out in the breeze on super long mounting brackets which are prone to damage really annoy me.
    It’s good to see some more options in the market. Reliability is the key issue though!😁👍

  • @themoog3889
    @themoog3889 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At last ! Someone else that dislikes inbalanced looking luggage !
    Great bike had 1 nearly 2 years and still impressed 👍🏻

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It truly bothers me. So much so that I rebuilt the pannier racks on my Tenere 700 and DesertX to minimize the off balance

  • @daddystu7046
    @daddystu7046 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Good, real-world review thanks. This one was on my list but ended up with the more road-biased Yammy Tracer 700.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hard to go wrong with any Yamaha

    • @kkattrap
      @kkattrap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I still wish for Yamaha to bring the Tracer 700 to the North American market. I like my Tenere a lot but a Tracer 700 would be more realistic to my day-to-day riding.

    • @903lew
      @903lew 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tracer 700 is a great package for those of us who stick to roads. It really does everything I want from it.

  • @MotoSaunter
    @MotoSaunter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very thorough and useful review. Thank you!

  • @shanekeat7473
    @shanekeat7473 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I like the Morini and CF Moto stuff, quite a bit of it here, works well and no mechanical issues, even on the farm.

  • @sengapore
    @sengapore 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Truly appreciate your time and efforts to ride, push and fall off the bike for this 2000 mile review!

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This was the most I've time I've spent getting to know a bike for a review other than one's I've bought. It was brave of them to give me this much time. They would have let me keep it longer if I wanted too

  • @kpanagos
    @kpanagos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is a "recall" in Europe for the 10 cm fuel tube. That is why your moto does not start. Here in Greece, if you report the problem to a dealer, they change it free of charge. That is why the recall was on quotes. I do not have a X-Cape, I got a Seiemezzo, but they are the same regarding this issue.

  • @davidvis9743
    @davidvis9743 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You may massacre the pronunciation of them Eyetalian bits and pieces, but I'll take it all because the review is so damn good! Comprehensive, illustrative, informative and very, very useful. Thank you!

  • @leayoung3014
    @leayoung3014 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow…just to many issues to deal with yet. I’ll keep my CB500X but thanks for the info!
    14:43

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One issue which they are fixing? I'm not a Chinese shill but this seems fine, given so many other brands have issues

  • @nonyoutuber
    @nonyoutuber 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was looking for this review!!! Thank you i just subbed can you do the CFMoto 450 MT IBEX

  • @WAZZUjohn03
    @WAZZUjohn03 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have not been hands on with this bike, but this seems like a thorough and fair review. Being a bit vain myself, I don't think this is a bike for me.

    • @giuliobuccini208
      @giuliobuccini208 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Italy it sold more than v-strom and kawa-650 together.

  • @bouleavard71
    @bouleavard71 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The objectivity and neutrality of the review is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
    A bike suitable for soft-medium trails and traveling comfortably on all types of roads, with good quality and nice details. I can also add that the bike reaches 124 mil/hour...🤭if you like some speed.

  • @risingphoenix1187
    @risingphoenix1187 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant, honest, unbiased, and comprehensive review!
    If only we had more of these at this level. I was also highly impressed with the parts review for manufacturers from other countries whilst you were targeting the common misconception of the crap Chinese bike. If only half of the motorcycle population had any common sense, they would understand that most of our bikes have many parts sourced or made in multiple countries and would stop regurgitating the same foolish quote.
    I truly respect your no-nonsense logical approach to this.
    Keep up the good wor, and God bless. 👍🏿

  • @ecalzo
    @ecalzo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i knew you was going to release an unbiased review of the Morini Bret ... Well done... Now you need to test te new Himalayan 450 for us... i am really looking forward to see how that one is working on your hands ... Take care from Italy

    • @ericsabatino9411
      @ericsabatino9411 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I can't wait for the new Himalayan 450

  • @刘阜松
    @刘阜松 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    这是个非常垃圾的车!!我使用这个车3万多公里,毛病不间断的发生,减震不断漏油,发动机进水,在雨中空滤进水

  • @VinayKumar-db4qz
    @VinayKumar-db4qz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should have bought a Kawasaki Versys 650 instead of this Chinese bike. Japanese bikes are reliable, and they have a good resale value, but with this MM I don't think you would get even half of what you paid after an year of usage.

  • @MrJulianDS
    @MrJulianDS หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review. Do you think the tires are ok considering it's more of a touring than a trail bike? I've heard they're quite noisy on pavement. Greetings!

  • @doktorsalami9315
    @doktorsalami9315 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What bothers me about reviews (about any product really) is how the reviewer goes how this or that feature is fine for the price or how they expected more for the price.
    For me it would be more helpful to say "The paint job is good" "the infotainment is lacking" etc.
    I know this is majorly simplified but I hope I get the point across.
    When I watched the whole review and I know the price I should be able to judge for myself if this is interesting for me.
    Thanks for the review :)

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Fair feedback... To me price matters. A great paint job on a $8000 bike may not look "good" on a $30,000 bike. I guess this bike just really impressed me (for the price 🤣)

  • @the_E4_Mafia
    @the_E4_Mafia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d buy a Suzuki VStrom 650 over this Moron bike 100 out of 100 times

  • @RobWakeford35
    @RobWakeford35 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great review. Real life info. Please do more reviews.

  • @theja63
    @theja63 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best review. I've watched almost all reviews in languages I don't even understand🤣 but this is by far the best one. Covered every single detail!

  • @JagLite
    @JagLite 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great review, thanks!

  • @nicflatterie7772
    @nicflatterie7772 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Old Kawasaki Versys engine? You lost me there. My old Versys was crazy vibrating, and sluggish. Not fun at higher speeds than 70kmh

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This was smooth over 110kpm but sluggish and slow sounds familiar. At 60hp no races will be won.

    • @podunkman2709
      @podunkman2709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      New one is also not a dream

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cfmoto built this engine and they actually built a clone of the kawasaki engine that is a fair bit smoother than the one in the old Ninja 650 / er6. Not sure how they did it. It sounds the same but there's way less vibration.

  • @toradog5719
    @toradog5719 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An excellent review. Saw one in real life at Cycle Gear and it's impressive. The price is excellent and it doesn't chase anyone away.

  • @dexpress7935
    @dexpress7935 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you very much! I appreciate your comments as I am renting one in September to cross the Pyrenees.

  • @xxxenricop
    @xxxenricop 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just don't understand how someone can look at this side by side with a Vstrom and go buy the "Morini".
    I mean, if it was 2 or 3 k less? Say in line with an Himalayan? Definitely! But for that much money?!
    No way😢

    • @motopilot2873
      @motopilot2873 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Moto Morin is offering $1000 Off right now so its $7299. Or you can choose their 3-piece luggage set valued at $1480. What is Suzuki offering right now? Plus you get a 3-year unlimited mileage warranty.

    • @ericsabatino6963
      @ericsabatino6963 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@motopilot2873 That warranty is great.

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The thing is, they're actually pretty equal in terms of fit and finish, ride quality, etc. The Morini has more features including a way better screen. Put them side by side (and forget about it being Chinese made) and you could make the case easily that it's the better bike, especially given price and features. I am comparing it with the 650 vstrom of course, the 800 is in a higher league

  • @Fiatmannen1
    @Fiatmannen1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks good, but it is chineese with a poor secondhandvalue small or none existing dealer workshop network, and a bad taste in the mouth regarding politics

  • @davidskaggs9914
    @davidskaggs9914 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review...that skid plate is crazy dumb.

  • @geomaticskd
    @geomaticskd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like a versys knock off! That’s a good thing!

  • @kikoy08
    @kikoy08 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Motorini is just china being china. Cheap quality.

  • @lluis9377
    @lluis9377 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just bought one from Sabatino, PDX!!

  • @Michael_Shay
    @Michael_Shay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for doing a long term review on a bike like this, I think in the future we'll see less skepticism towards chinese owned brands. It seems like some of them are really trying to step up their game.
    Unrelated hypothetical: Would you rather get a KTM 890R or a T7 with the price difference invested into modifications?

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The 890 and T7 are more powerful motorcycles with 21" front and long travel suspension. Not a fair comparison

    • @Michael_Shay
      @Michael_Shay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BretTkacs oh totally unrelated to the Moto Morini. I wouldn't compare them. I mean between the T7 and the 890. Which one would you go for?

    • @briangc1972
      @briangc1972 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Michael_Shay the KTM engine and suspension require you to ride hard and fast when off road. The T7 is slower but with more grunt and the suspension works fine at slower speeds.
      Do you want a high strung thoroughbred or a plow horse?

    • @kkattrap
      @kkattrap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Michael_Shay He had the KTM and lots of problems with it but overall better performance. He chose the KTM over a T7.

  • @DorkintheRoad
    @DorkintheRoad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks, Brett! Very in-depth review!

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You are going to really like this bike! It's not your Africa Twin but it's not supposed to be

    • @DorkintheRoad
      @DorkintheRoad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BretTkacs I'm excited to get some seat time!

  • @Michael_Shay
    @Michael_Shay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh it's kind of a cool touch how the tachometer is an offroad tire/wheel

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes it is

  • @rc2634
    @rc2634 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It just arrived to the US market now? It's sold in Europe after 3 or 4 years.
    It's weird that starting issue, it should be identified and solved from factory already, after so many sold bikes in EU

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      First year

  • @kevinkincannon2988
    @kevinkincannon2988 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish you would have addressed the maintenance side .....

  • @feden84
    @feden84 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi! Any chance you review the cf 800 mt?

  • @D1PAYAN
    @D1PAYAN 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The engine is derived from Kawasaki ninja / versys 650 why is anybody not mentioning about it??!!

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Didn't I ?

  • @enduromotorradtouren
    @enduromotorradtouren 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your unideological review. China is catching up, when will they start overtaking? A friend rides a Voge 650 single and after the Benelli TRK 502 changed over to the new TRK 702 X. We did some trail rides together. Nice bike, great price. I'm keen on the Kove 450 Rally once it comes over to the EU (just passed Euro 5 homologation needed for plating, unless you're Anglish or American). Happy days, Günter/Nürnberg

  • @nelsoncanossa
    @nelsoncanossa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that skidplate is not the best one there one on cross pro that goes all the way from radiator to the back

  • @armzforte23
    @armzforte23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very god fedback, honest review, other channels around the world are starting to sound as advertisers in order just to get views instead of informing and research . Thank you.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is one reason I rely on veiwer support rather than manufacturer sponsors. There is always the risk of loosing access if you are unfair but I have found most know there weaknesses and when I point them out they are ok with it. I try to be as fair but honest as possible

  • @misfitfarm1937
    @misfitfarm1937 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the same money buy Yamaha and it won’t leave you stranded, but it’s a good bike!???. Wonder if any other brand left you stranded TWICE if you would say positive tings about that. I have a rooster who tries to kill me everyday , but he runs fast. Feel let down.

  • @imgoingforaride
    @imgoingforaride 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think you need to take a cfmoto 800mt for a ride . Very good and capable bike .

    • @podunkman2709
      @podunkman2709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cfmoto 800mt is a TOURING bike. Nice looking but...

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@podunkman2709 Plenty of people taking it on trails like this as well. The weight and ground clearance are the same afterall. It's an Adventure tourer like the x-cape

  • @trd4d
    @trd4d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am looking for a midsize adventure bike. However, o am so sick of seeing the stupid crap coming from the manufactures. An adventure bike should come stock with a good skid plate, quality hand guards, cruise control if the bike has drive by wire. Everyone has a cell phone and/or gps, so a usb charger should be stock. Good crash bars should be stock. Stuff like tires are very rider specific, so an average tire is fine. Luggage racks should be left off. Another rider specific item. Large tail rack should be on every bike. I have pretty much given up on spending money on a half done bike.

  • @randycallow3736
    @randycallow3736 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The more I think about it.. just blows my mind that Kawasaki already has a 6 speed reliable twin sitting there.. just put it in the 450 chassis..add lights and turn signals, plastic already available from the 300.. you have a big road mannered twin w a 21in front wheel..tons of cross over parts.. everyone wins.. everyone wants a bike for the dirt that they are going to use 80% of the time on the road..why is a motorcycle frame and fork so expensive when they have been making the same thing since the 90s

  • @subakralj
    @subakralj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the best review I've seen for this motorcycle, I hope you will do the same for the Moto Morini 1200 cc, it's coming soon as I saw the announcements, greetings and thanks.

  • @matt_kelly
    @matt_kelly 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "This is a joke, this is the worst skid plate I've seen on any motorcycle anywhere".
    *Laughs in 390 Adventure*

  • @roaminguero
    @roaminguero 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review love it. I will give it a look but somehow my head is saying a V Strom 650 is worth the extra 1k (pricing here puts them close)… let’s see!

  • @arielbenavidez6417
    @arielbenavidez6417 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks Bret,perfect review.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My pleasure!

  • @mofm1639
    @mofm1639 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Luggage is CW Motech, not SW.
    One thing they missed and what annoys me is there's no "full" mark on the fuel gauge, or "hot" mark on the temp gauge. You dont know when you're at half a tank of fuel.
    Also, a little lubrication in the screen knob and it's much easier to turn. I can now adjust it one handed in gloves while riding. I also like the thumb perch on the screen guide to pull the screen up one handed.

  • @bogdanioachimescu2611
    @bogdanioachimescu2611 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The cases are Alibaba stuff. Expect some anger from SW-Motech...

  • @MCCJustMotos
    @MCCJustMotos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I rode it, and I thought you did a really good job of nailing what the bike is for naturally all the on road stuff. The only thing that I thought was missing was the mid range. It really didn’t have any.

  • @oknevals
    @oknevals 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just saw them at dealership last Saturday. They look very nice and not cheap looking at all. I especially liked the look of scrambler model. Now, that said, their price tag is not cheap at all. You are looking at almost $10k on the road in Texas. I personally would prefer to pay another couple grand for Versys 650 (which I loved in demo earlier this year) or, maybe Strom which ergonomically feels lil too big for me. There are just too many unknowns at this point but, I feel like that for any bike brand other than Japanese big four.

    • @giuliobuccini208
      @giuliobuccini208 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In Italy the X-Cape is selling very well. It is more sold than v-strom and kawa 650 together, IIRC.

    • @orangelion03
      @orangelion03 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Local dealer carries Honda and recently added M-M. Dropped by to check out the new Transalp, and was surprised how cheap the Honda looked and felt (did not test ride) compared to a X-Cape sitting alongside. The flat black paint and $1200 markup didnt help either.

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There actually aren't really many unknowns - this is a CFMoto 650 underneath the plastic, a bike which has been around for over a decade now. Now, if the brand collapses now sure how you'll get things like fairings or bike specific parts, but the mechanicals are all Cfmoto and they aren't going anywhere. There's lists out there for consumables like oil filters from other brands that fit if cfmoto ones aren't available too. The engine is a close copy of a verysys 650 / ninja 650 engine, even the service manual is the same

  • @thetessellater9163
    @thetessellater9163 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The mud splattering from both poorly guarded wheels is a big negative, I think.

  • @MCCJustMotos
    @MCCJustMotos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I rode it, and I thought you did a really good job of nailing what the bike is for naturally all the on road stuff. The only thing that I thought was missing was the mid range. It really didn’t have any.

  • @mickleblade
    @mickleblade 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As you said, it needs time to develop it's reputation, I don't risk my money on something too new so got a Cb500x. Maybe in the future?

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They really need to tell people that the frame, engine and electrics are the same as the CFmoto 650 platform which has been around for years. It would help people feel more confident. But they won't do that for some reason

    • @mickleblade
      @mickleblade 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chrispekel5709 I know the engine is off an old versys/er6, but is the frame really from cfmoto? Different companies etc

  • @jonasdusselier8267
    @jonasdusselier8267 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best review I've seen of te X-Cape 650. Not only praising but also critical!

  • @kristoferrayner
    @kristoferrayner 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was that washout on the Old Coulterville rd out of Briceburg? I’ve driven it before and thought it a great moto route. Looks like it must have taken a beating this winter.

  • @matteocaridi3573
    @matteocaridi3573 หลายเดือนก่อน

    at same price xcape 650 or suzuki vstrom 650?

    • @matteocaridi3573
      @matteocaridi3573 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the use of the bike will be most exclusively on road, it will be my first bike, very challenged between the two since the vstrom only cost 1k more here in italy but without all the luggage

  • @defylifeadventure
    @defylifeadventure 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The good thing is Moto Morini acknowledge issue with the bike. KTM just ignores them.

  • @zoltanszeder1813
    @zoltanszeder1813 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi! How much is there a subtle resonance in the handlebars, seat, footrest that can be felt in the limbs and cause numbness after a long stage?
    Thanks in advance for your answer!

  • @ownyourworld
    @ownyourworld 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can’t see it lasting as long as my 2007 gs with 70000 miles on it.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      70,000 is nothing for a GS 😁👍. Honestly only time will tell. The places I found the "budget" didn't seem to be long term concerns for reliability but I can't see what's inside and what was used for bearings, etc.

  • @2wheels.are.better.than4
    @2wheels.are.better.than4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope you get a chance to review the new 2024 KTM 790 Adventure

  • @watb8689
    @watb8689 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    again many western reviewers always want to say it is not a dirtbike yet go do dirtbike action. That motorcycle was never market to be one anyway. This just show how shallow these youtubers are

  • @emanuelperez2329
    @emanuelperez2329 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate your review. How was the fuel consumption?

  • @SMLPhotography1
    @SMLPhotography1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree 100% on having a balanced set of luggage. Having one side shifted over or a cutout is so… awkward.

  • @podunkman2709
    @podunkman2709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DRY weight not less than 213kg
    20kg too much.

  • @TonyHands-r6l
    @TonyHands-r6l 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love it so iv got one its brill england

  • @derekbender
    @derekbender 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg Briceburg Bridge right off the Merced River! So cool to recognize that spot in your video!

  • @BrianSmith-ql5nj
    @BrianSmith-ql5nj 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    👍👍

  • @dimitrisnestoridis888
    @dimitrisnestoridis888 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like your videos..i am expecting for more.. good job.

  • @brucegor
    @brucegor 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dont care how good it is or how well it handles. do not buy from chinese

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who made your phone?

  • @faredkakar4373
    @faredkakar4373 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can somebody please tell me is f800gt 2014 speedometer compatible with f800gs 2013?????

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Looking at the 2013 F800GT in my shop and the F800GS they look to be the same. Have you checked part numbers yet?

  • @jgaran1655
    @jgaran1655 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that Eugene?

  • @raymondavalon
    @raymondavalon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Test rode one myself in July, took it along the A35, then into the Vosges Mountain twisty roads I know so well [my backyard] and back, so about an 80KM stint..
    It has the alloy wheels with Pirelli STR tyres, so, yes, I tackled a dirt road or two, as I know this thing would suffer a "death from bottoming out" if I put it on the technical routes that I enjoy on my 350 EXCF 6-Days or my 790 Adv R.
    It does the job, so ideal for a cheap road runner that will do most dirt roads
    It has its place in the market, for those who want a cheap bike that looks much better than it really is
    It just lacks any excitement when you twist the throttle, even at higher RPM.
    Ground clearance is very poor and my biggest bugbear was the position of the rider /pillion foot pegs, I ride on the balls of my feet, not the arch, but the rear foot peg forced me to ride flat footed on the arches of my feet due to the rear pegs catching the heel of my riding boots and preventing me from riding in my decades long accustomed foot position..
    Personally if in the market for something od this capacity, the CB500X comes to mind, just a much better quality machine than the Mao Zedong special from Moto Morini
    As I said, nit a bad bike, sort of bordering a good bike, but miles away from ever being a "great bike"

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've heard this a lot, but I fail to see why the Cb500x is so much better, I thought they were both great bikes probably about the same in terms of value - the Honda being a bit lighter which is nice but the Morini feeling more solid at higher speeds. Always better resale on a Honda so there's that

  • @nathanboeger978
    @nathanboeger978 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always enjoy your content but that opening music.... oh man, that's awful.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But did you laugh at it? 😁

    • @nathanboeger978
      @nathanboeger978 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BretTkacs Yes, I guess so. Mainly at my reaction, I rushed to mute it and shouted "what the hell is that! Why?"

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nathanboeger978 🤣

  • @rallye81
    @rallye81 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 2:35, is that the Briceburg BLM Office between Mariposa and Yosemite National Park CA?

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I believe it was. I rode from LA to Boise as a break in ride.