TRYING TO LEARN FINNISH (FOR REAL) | Part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- We continue on the journey to learn Finnish for real... I think I'm making progress...
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Dudes, I've got a LOT to update you on in the next episode... You'll be proud of me :D
Also, thank you for the amazing comments. I'm reading them all! I'm going to select a few to feature in the next video that any potential Finnish learners might find helpful :)
Dave Cad can u plz do more finish candy test or something just like that
Dave Cad moi. Miten menee?
Hey Dave,
Well done learning finnish 😊👏🏼
I'm really enjoying your journey, it's extremely interesting to see someones learning process to finnish language.
If you you want to set a goal, you might be interested to google up a fellow brit; Mr Neil Hardwick.
Hardwick is one of the few well-known immigrants to Finland who have learned the Finnish language fluently.
Also I warmly recommend his book Hardwick's sauce i.e. Neilin tähteet, Tammi, 1988 (causerie, in Finnish and English on each opposite page). Freakingly funny and also good for your trip to finnish language.
This little book might be hard to find, but a real gem nontheless.
Keep up the good work and keep doing videos! Love them!✌🏼😊
Dave you should change worddive to finnish! It helps with the learning process when you have to use it!
Legend2993 This is great! And to Dave: This shows well, how difficult finnish is! I translate to you Dave few, so you get the idea:
my dog=koirani
even my dog eats that= koiranikin syö sen
our dog has= koirallamme on
in my dog=koirassani
with your dogs= koirinesi
without a dog=koiratta
so... not easy, but we do understand you even you don't speak finnish perfect, so keep on practicing!
Dave, in Finnish it's so important to learn, where is double consonant (kisa, kissa - a competition, a cat ) and double vocal ( saari, Sari - an island, a women's name in Finland). It can be hard at first but as you said, you are a visual learner. So at first you should say the word slowly and think about the letters. Because in Finnish language there is one sound per one letter. So it could be easier to learn to say the words slowly and making the brakes between the words f.ex. kis-sa, koi-ra, nuk-kuu, mi-nä, si-nä etc. I hope this helped you in any way
4:04 is actually a bad translation so no wonder you were confused, "portaat yläkertaan" means "stairs (to) upstairs" whereas "stairs to the second floor" would be "portaat toiseen kerrokseen".
Awesome progress btw, u are starting to nail those double consonants! :)
Try to learn the finnish alphabet. It will seriously help.
Voihan Viineri moi
Voihan Viineri so the same alphabet with äö... Hes probably done that already
Young Morgan niis on silti erilaiset lausumiset
crash bandicoot Terve wuan
Young Morgan Different pronounciation and also å
Yläkerta means upstairs (upper floor), not second floor.
Yeah, that is just a flat out mistake in this program...
and to answer his question at 4:08 ... it isn't ;)
Xethmondeus Wave No sehä riippuu et onko kaksikerroksinen talo
Meidän mökki on kaksi kerroksinen, enkä ikinä sano meneväni "toiseen kerrokseen", kyllä mä meen yläkertaan! :)
And if you want to know, 2nd floor means toinen kerros.
Hey Dave, a future special education teacher here with some tips for learning Finnish: focus on the sounds of the letters, for example the two k's in "ikkuna". This is something we learn with our native Finnish speaking kids on the first grade and it is also one of the biggest difficulties with Finnish as second language-speakers. A great example is double p in words "tapaa" and "tappaa": "Laura tapaa Niinan" vrs "Laura tappaa Niinan". Both sentences are very familiar in the written form and orally the only difference is the double p. But the HUGE difference is in the meaning. The first sentence means "Laura meets Niiina", the second "Laura kills Niina". Of course, if you are in a conversation and accidentally use double p instead of just one, the context helps your friends to understand what you mean, but, it is still a bit embarrasing when you have to explain your meaning.
And Finnish is easy when it comes to sounds: no matter what, a Finnish "a" is always a in every word: kauppa, auto, kaveri. But an English a? Dave, arrange, reading, actually: those a's are pronounced differently. So Finnish is logical in that way: every letter has only one sound.
You also had some trouble with whether to use a or ä and u or y, which makes sense, especially because ä doesn't exist in English. A small tip: in Finnish we have three different types of vowels: front, middle and back. Front vowels are formed in the front of your mouth, middle in the middle of your mouth etc. Ä, ö, and y (yes, y is a vowel in Finnish) are front vowels, e and i are middle vowels, and a, o and u are back vowels. In a Finnish word we don't usually mix back and front vowels, only because it makes it harder to pronounce. You can mix middle vowels with both back and front, they are quite the loose type. ;) But if you know that the word has at least one ä, ö or y, you know that it can't have a, o or u. So "ymmärtää" is always ymmärtää, not ymmärtaa.
I hope this helped and didn't confuse you any more! :D
That's some great advice!! You're gonna make a wonderful teacher!
Great advice! Another se-teacher here 🙂I think Dave has huge potential because he can divide words into syllables (tavuttaa in Finnish) pretty well and he can find those douple letters while doing so. The capability for this (in Finnish children) predicts that learning reading and writing will be normal.
Oululaisena mä meen useinkin tappaan kavereita.
Hey thanks really good advice, I'm learning Finnish as well and your description about vowels helped me to get the logic better! Good Job!
1. yksi (yks/yy)
2. kaksi (kaks/kaa)
3. kolme (koo)
4. neljä (nee)
5. viisi (vii)
6. kuusi (kuu)
7. seitsemän (see)
8. kahdeksan (kasi)
9. yhdeksän (ysi)
10. kymmenen (kymppi)
11. yksitoista (ykstoist/yytoo)
12. kaksitoista (kakstoist/kaatoo)
13. kolmetoista (kootoo)
...
20. kaksikymmentä (kakskyt)
21. kaksikymmentäyksi (kaayy)
...
100. sata
The ones it () are used when counting fast.
👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼 yes true
My mom is from Finland when she was counting with the super shortened numbers I was like "wth are you doing?"🤣 "yy ka koo -what?!"
At 13:20 the correct answer is "ystävä", but "frendi" is not wrong either! allthough, It's a slang word in finnish.
Also, "ystävä" and "kaveri" are not really the same thing... You would use "ystävä" with a close friend only and "kaveri" for pretty much anyone you know.
(so you can't really say that someone you've know for a little bit is a "ystävä" just yet. It takes time!)
I actually fist pumped when you added that second "k" in ikkuna.
+Mikko Mallikasvo haha it was a great moment 😂
You surely are making some progress.. :)
ps. Love your Trying Finnish drinks series.
paavonukko terve
These are so fun to watch :D I believe that one day you will speak fluent Finnish :)
i believe Dave will never speak finnish
aratu klik aha
aratu klik that's sad :D
I believe he will and he can. It's just about determination. 😊
Ask Neil Hardwick, if it's possible! Maybe you should ask Keith Armstrong too?
I heard it's really helpful if you put sticky notes in Finnish on the things you know. For an example put a sticky note on the TV that says "televisio". That might help idk
You are getting really good with hearing the letters. Now just concentrate on those double letters :) For example "kaupunki" is one k, but tick is "punkki" double k. Also it's klubi not klubbi like you are saying the whole video :D
Alluusio in that context trough out sounds better than whole. 😊
Allu perkele
Stairs can actually also be "raput" or "rappuset", at least in the spoken language. Or maybe that's a regional thing, idk. At least in my neck of the woods it's probably more common to hear them called that instead of "portaat"
Hey Dave! Quick tip if you haven't seen my comment on the last video. In Finnish words you can't have the letter groups AOU and ÄÖY in the same word otherwise it sounds like drunk Finnish aka Estonian. Borrowed words like "olympia", and words with two words like "mökkisauna" are different. E and I can be in any word.
Jussi Viitanen moooi
Amatööri, thats one, but you're true about that. It's almost always that way.
the physical location in the mouth where the sounds are produced comes into play here, Finns don't tend the change the location (front of mouth/back of mouth) of vowels in a single word much, thus olympia in everyday speech sometimes becomes "olumpia" where the phonemes o and u are closer and easier to say than o and y together.
...and then there's hernekeitto ("pea soup") which is almost always pronounced with double-k despite the writing
HÄÄYÖAIE is the best example
When you are saying klubi (club) you are saying klubbi. There is only one "b". I hope this helped
kahdeksan klubbi
You should try the finnish alphabet :D
Vowels in Finnish words are kind of easy.
A,U,O can be used in the same word and Ä,Y,Ö can be in the same. They are like two groups. E and I can be used in both. Example words päivä=day, poista=remove. You cant combine those two groups exept when its compound like lohikäärme=dragon. I hope this helps you at least a little bit.
to the second floor is acually " toinen kerros" and not yläkerta and otta is shorten word for otsa(forehead) aand tick is "punkki"
Meri Kurvinen If the house has just two floors it actually is (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
well yes but second floor is toinen kerros
Upstairs = yläkerta
You're all right that "yläkerta" is not the same as the second floor but as TheOmout said if there's only two floors they are the same thing. However, in Finland it's quite rare that in an apartment or building there's more than two floors above ground and therefore it's implied that "yläkerta" is the second floor. Personally I think that it should have been translated to "upstairs".
Meri Kurvinen isn't "to the second floor" toiseen kerrokseen"?
Cow-punki I am dying 😂😂😂
Mira Hartikainen Same xD
Your pronunciation is really good. =)
12:30 That was so amazing! I was so happy when you corrected yourself and got the double consonant.
I recommend looking into Finnish verb conjugations and just Finnish grammar overall, for it’s one of the hardest things about the language and it would be good to start learning it now. Good luck!
Lets take one verb: laulaa=sing
You can turn it into 56 different versions
Here are all the versions, they have differences: person, time, positive/negative
minä=I:
laulan, en laula, lauloin, en laulanut, olen laulanut, en ole laulanut, olin laulanut, en ollut laulanut
sinä=you:
laulat, et laula, lauloit, et laulanut, olet laulanut, et ole laulanut, olit laulanut, et ollut laulanut
hän=he/she:
laulaa, ei laula, lauloi, ei laulanut, on laulanut, ei ole laulanut, oli laulanut, ei ollut laulanut
me=we:
laulamme, emme laula, lauloimme, emme laulaneet, olemme laulaneet, emme ole laulaneet, olimme laulaneet, emme olleet laulaneet
te=you:
laulatte, ette laula, lauloitte, ette laulaneet, olette laulaneet, ette ole laulaneet, olitte laulaneet, ette olleet laulaneet
he=they:
laulavat, eivät laula, lauloivat, eivät laulaneet, olevat laulaneet, eivät ole laulaneet, olivat laulaneet, eivät olleet laulaneet
passive:
lauletaan, ei lauleta, laulettiin, ei laulettu, on laulettu, ei ole laulettu, oli laulettu, ei oltu laulettu
Theres something for you to think about xD
It was so satisfying to see you take your time and think/listen to get those correct letters and finally get the word right. You've improved so much, keep it up.
I find it interesting that british/american people only know like english and maybe some people can like german or french in finland its like obligatory to know english, swedish, finnish and one more( french german or spanish) it is interesting because americans know zero languages lol
maXeris Well to be honest English is enough to survive in most of the countries in the world.
If you want to manage on a vacation, you need to know English. Also to add, as a Finn I can confirm that Finnish people may know many languages, but can't speak them at all in a real life situation. I, for example have studied (besides English and Finnish) Swedish, French and Spanish and can't use them at all in everyday life :DDD.
Edit: And to add even more, most of Finns are horrible at English which is an easy language to learn.
I'm so proud of you Dave! That went really well, and was actually very fun to watch! As a Finn who has (and still tries) studied English, my tip is that there's no way trying to think the grammar logically, because the finnish and english grammar are very different from each other and work pretty differently (as you might have noticed ;D ). I love this series, please keep making these!
It is so much fun to watch you learning Finnish. I find myself cheering "come on, you can do it, it's double consonant". Hey, see if you can watch movies with Finnish subtitles or Finnish movies with English subtitles. It is so helpful!
You should change your phone's language to Finnish. Super useful for me learning French because it exposes me to it all day!
I don't usually comment on videos but today I had to. I'm a special education teacher and helping children to learn languages (primarly Finnish children reading and writing in Finnish but I have also studied how to teach Finnish as a forgein language) is huge part of my daily work. I have seen all of your learning videos. It was very satisfying to see how you have learned Finnish syllable rythym and how you started to spell words one syllable at a time. My young students do this too. If we work on reading too, we read and hide the word before this. First: say the whole word, then divide it into syllables, say them syllable by syllable and finally write syllables into a word. My favourite part was when you wrote ikuna and then broke the word in syllables and figured out the double k (ik-ku-na). I freaked out a bit (on a good way), as teachers often do when they can see so clear progress :) Go Dave!
Oh you are doing so well!😁 I used to teach immigrants Finnish for four years so based on that experience you are doing much better than most.
+Essi Anttila-Ikpeghe wow that is SO encouraging. Thank you!!
Awesome! I'm looking forward to these kinds of videos! It's wonderful to see that "heureka!" moment. I think the hurdle that first time learners face are the verb conjugations. It is a lot at first, I remember similar struggle from first German lessons, if that is comparable. In both languages the verbs conjugate based on the person who is doing the action.
So, the person pronouns I, you, him/her, it, we, plural you and they change the verb. This is why we don't always have to say the person pronoun. Because of the conjugation we still know who is doing the action. "Opiskelen= Minä opiskelen." This can make it more difficult to understand. But if you learn the conjugations, most of the verbs behave according to the rules. "Olla"-verb is the most used, so the most irregular(This is the same also in English and German)
Also, there is the difference between written and spoken language. Basically spoken language is shorter, faster and more difficult to understand,(according to my international friends studying Finnish) "minä=mä", onko se?=onks se?(is it?) *verb+-ko/kö usually makes a yes/no question
minä menen= (mä) meen
of course with spoken language there are many dialects :D but I think that people talking to someone who is learning Finnish would adapt to a standard way of speaking
Finally, a con to learning Finnish language is that the word order is flexible...basically a sentence can be said in whatever order you'd like, even if the normal one is Subject+Verb+ Object. Different orders just create emphasis(which word is placed 1st)
You could say "I drink coffee"=minä juon kahvia=minä kahvia juon=juon minä kahvia=juon kahvia minä =kahvia juon minä=kahvia minä juon
Sure some of them might sound strange, but you'll be understood :D
Good luck on your journey!
damn you're good, perfect Finnish, I used to live in Sweden where nobody was able to spell one word anywhere near right. Finnish isn't as refined as other languages since it's a very old huntsman tongue
Helping each other out here since I am a learning Finnish as well; what I learnt so far is that Finnish has a thing called "vowel harmony". So for example, if the first vowel is ö, the vowel that comes after it would have the umlaut as well. Example: "syödä". If the beginning vowel doesn't have the umlaut, then the following vowel will be absent of the umlaut. I know there are a few instances where this doesn't apply but I haven't got an explanation for that yet.
The double consonants is like a pause in the word, like "nukkua" [nook]-[kua], "kissa" [kis]-[sa]. I guess it helps if you break down the words, it works for me 😃.
All the best, Dave and happy language journey! 😊
Hi Dave! Here's "couple" numbers for you😉:
0=nolla
1=yksi
2=kaksi
3=kolme
4=neljä
5=viisi
6=kuusi
7=seitsemän
8=kahdeksan
9=yhdeksän
10=kymmenen
11=yksitoista
12=kaksitoista
13=kolmetoista
14=neljätoista
15=viisitoista
...
20=kaksikymmentä
21= kaksikymmentäyksi
22= kaksikymmentäkaksi
23= kaksikymmentäkolme
...
30=kolmekymmentä
40=neljäkymmentä
50=viisikymmentä
60=kuusikymmentä
70=seitsemänkymmentä
80=kahdeksankymmentä
90=yhdeksänkymmentä
100=sata
101=satayksi
102=satakaksi
111=satayksitoista
121=satakaksikymmentäyksi
159=sataviisikymmentäyhdeksän
200=kaksisataa
222=kaksisataakaksikymmentäkaksi
1 000=tuhat
1 111=tuhatsatayksitoista
10 000=kymmenentuhatta
100 000=satatuhatta
1 000 000=miljoona
999 999 999=
yhdeksänsataayhdeksänkymmentäyhdeksänmiljoonaayhdeksänsataayhdeksänkymmentäyhdeksäntuhattayhdeksänsataayhdeksänkymmentäyhdeksän
1 000 000 000=miljardi
Also here's little challenge for you try to say these next numbers in finnish:
69
447
1735
You're doing very well mate! Greetings from a guy who is an ex-Finn and now a Manc. Keep up the great work!
Hi Dave! You know those annoying things at end of words like "kuvassa" word means "in picture" but if you remove -ssa from the end it's just "kuva" which means just "picture". So here's couple of those things that you can remove from the words you see to get the "original word". And that way you'll hopefully learn the word and it will also make more sense for you.
Koulu=school
Koulu on tylsää=School is boring
Koulussa=in school -ssa
Koulussa on tylsää=There is boring in the school
Koulusta=from school -sta
Me saimme eilen ilmaista jäätelöä koulusta=We got free ice cream from school yesterday
Kouluun=to school -uun
Haluatko mennä kouluun=Do you want to go to school
Koululla=at school -lla
Me olemme nyt koululla=We are currently at school
Koululta=from school -lta
Minä sain tänään kirjeen koululta=I got a letter from school today
Koululle=for school -lle
Joku antoi suuren lahjoituksen koululle=someone gave huge donation for school
Also funny thing. My name is Ville so "for Ville" is in finnish "Villelle" xD.
Also there was just 6 out of 15 of those things. Also they can be different in different words and they can also be different if the word is in plural. So good luck for you learning finnish. You'll need it😂
I am SOOO proud of you every time you get it right! I will definitely be following your progress with these vids :)
Your pronunciation is improving a lot! It's weird how I almost feel I know you and was nearly holding my breath to see if you can spell the double consonants right. Keep at it, you are doing brilliantly!
Nahdah 😂😂 8:51 lmao
Moro
HAUKKA :DD
:DDD
Mitä haukalle kuuluu
HAUKKA säki subaat oot hyvä tubettaja
Fun to see your smart thinking. Fun fact: six = 6 = Kuusi = & Kuusi is also a type of tree. (joulukuusi, Christmas tree.)
mate, this is so entertaning to watch. that double k on the window, you nailed it. good stuff buddy.
Love to see how excited you are when you get words right! Kahdeksan klubi 💪🏻 hyvää työtä!
EPIC Progress!
Gives me huge smile to watch you struggle and thrive
Here's a good tip for you Dave. If the word has a Ä or Ö , Y in it, it can't have a U, O or A in it also. Only the vocals I and E can be in words with Ä, Ö and Y. So words can only have either the vocals A, O, U, I, E or Y, Ä, Ö, I, E.
There are of course some exceptions, but this is how it usually is.
Simplest way to find out if it is spelled with an A or Ä is to listen to the word. Ä is said with wider mouth and A is said by youe lips in more of a circle. You can try and listen to some words and try to say it with Ä and A and then you will noticw the differende! Also double vowels and consonants seems to be a bit o a problem. As you said we say everything as we write so when the consonant feels long/hard it is most likely a double. Vowels are easy to hear. Double "aa" or "oo" is so much longer than just one vowel. Like when you say "uusi" (new) and compare it with "susi" (a wolf) that has only one U. You are doing great and it is cool to see someone doind that much effort! I am trying to learn russian as a finn anD can understand your struggle
I laughed so much on that last video when someone wanted you to say "riisi serkku suudelma aurinkoinen" in english. I may be childish, but I love innuendos, and you nailed the pronounciation.
Ps. You have come so far with your awesome pronounciation.
5:13 That was so goood!! It totally sounded like native Finn. Good job!
Your Finnish is pretty good!👍👌
Hyvää työtä Dave! :D Learning in little bits and pieces is the best. I don't know if someone already said this but watch movies, tv-shows or videos in Finnish (spoken in Finnish or subtitled in Finnish)
I LOVE YOU DAVE! This is TRUE dedication.
I'm proud of you Dave! :)
I was commenting loudly waay too much watching this.
Keep on listening if there is two or just one of the same letters in words after each other like iKKuna and yMMäRRä. It help you alot, yes.
I remember when we learned english in school it used to confuse me when thinking of those words that was spelled and pronounced the same in different languages but had completely different meaning depending on which language you were thinking about like the word ON in english and finnish, or JA in finnish and swedish. Tricky thing.
it really makes me happy that you want to learn finnish, you are progressing a lot!
Oh my god, i almost died When you were trying to get that Seven Right... was eating and almost choked from laughter.
I love to see your pure joy to learn finnish. Kepep up for the good work.
I was so proud every time you got eight points ^^ You are nailing it, keep going, you can do this!
Dave sweetie, you are doing great job! Keep learning! I feel you allready as a finnish person. ❤️
My British friend had a hard time with double consonants and she told me it helped her immensely when she realised that double consonants sound like an apostrophe in English! So everytime it sounds like people make weird pauses mid-word as if there was an apostrophe there are double consonants. Visualise it like kis'a, ker'os, kym'enen and so on. Like a little pause to think in the middle of the word!
Man that's a confusing explanation, sorry😅😅
It is so fascinating to follow your learning process, especially from the point of view of a future Finnish/English teacher. You're really doing a very good job! I love those eureka moments the most, where you realize what something means and why :D Jatka samaan malliin (keep up the good work)!
This was way better than the first one. I heard, that the Finnish teacher said in our school to the exchange students to take a small break (when saying) between double consonants and double vowels. Maybe this tip will help you. (Small example: tippua = fall)
I was so proud and actually clapped whenever you got them right! Keep going! :)
I'm so proud of you uncle Dave😂😂 Finnish is a difficult language to learn but you can do it if you try hard enough and I believe in you so waiting for your next step to learning Finnish in front of your camera💗💗💗 keap on going and I love your videos so much💗💗💗
I'm so excited for this, if it is working for you I definetly want to give it a chance myself! I am part finnish but I live in Sweden and I used to be fluent in finnish because it was the first language I learned, but I haven't spoken it in yeaaars and I've forgotten everything. Would be so fun to pick it up again.
4:04
If you want, you can also say "Portaat toiseen kerrokseen" then you actually say "stairs to the second floor".
So the second is in finnish "toinen". Because if you say "portaat yläkertaan" it means "stairs to the upstairs."
Dave, your pronunciation is really good, like 90% of everything you say is phonetically correct. I know people who have lived in Finland for decades and can't pronounce Finnish as well as you do.
I dont know why but watching this series is just somehow funny and relaxing
It's important to remember those double letters because kylä means village and kyllä means yes so Finnish people can understand you wrong. Great video!! It's funny to watch this
You're quite right about somewhat separating Finnish and English in the sense that many sentences are formed quite differently in them. Direct translations word by word won't necessarily make much sense (this is the difficulty we face too when learning English :) Also, we have a lot of compound words that look scary like the "rintamerkki" you've encountered a few times. It's composed of two words rinta=breast/chest and merkki=mark/sigil/emblem/note .. so it's a note on someone's chest =) Once you learn enough vocabulary to start recognizing the words that make up the compound words they'll be much easier to read/understand :) tietokone (tieto=knowledge, kone=machine), lentokenttä (lento=flight, kenttä=field), parisänky (pari=pair/couple, sänky=bed), matkalaukku (matka=trip, laukku=bag) etc etc etc. :)
It's nice to see you make progress! Keep up the good work. Also I think weird chants or whatever are a great way to remember stuff. You could also try listening to songs in Finnish. And try to think of the words you are learning in the context of your own life, and make your own sentences that tell about your life and are useful for you. Like for example with the word "kanssa", you could make a sentence "Minä asun tyttöystävän kanssa." = "I live with a girlfriend."
You should start learning the suffixes for the 15 cases too. It makes it much easier when you have them memorized even a little when you move to forming sentences.
You are learning pretty good! There was this "portaat" (stairs). And I think I heard you saying "rappuset". That is a synonym to portaat also. I love your videos so much, they are so entertaining! ❤️
Wow Dave, good work, good thinking! Appreciate the learning of such a hard language.
Your skill is steadily improving. Keep up the good work.
It's so great to hear & see your progress! & you inspired me to try out Word Dive to revise Swedish :D
I'm losing it everytime you say KAHDEKSAN KLUBI when you get it right :'''''''D
Good job man! I'm an exchange student from Finland and I'm studying in Thailand at the moment. Other people here think it's possible to learn finnish and I also started to believe that. Now when I've seen you learning it, I believe that it is possible. Jatka samaan malliin!
The vowels work very uniquely in finnish. Usually if you have a, u or o, you do not have ä, y or ö. Letters e and i work with both groups for example lehmä (=a cow) and kaunis (=beautyful). The exception is the group of 'the closed compounds' that may have both groups' vowels for example lääkekaappi (=medicine cabinet, lääke=medicine, kaappi=cabinet or closet). Hope this helps :)
Hyvä Dave! Lisää näitä! Your ä and y pronunciation are kind of good compared to many other english speakers i know.
Hey Dave, here's a tip! If the word has y in it the a/o is almost always accented (ä/ö). Especially when it's straight after the y. The exceptions are usually loan words like syanidi or klamydia. But it's usually a pretty safe bet to add the dots when there's a y involved, as in syödä, lyödä, pöytä, työ, käyttää, näyttää etc etc. This is because it's easier for Finns to pronounce the ä/ö sounds (compared to a/o) together with y. :D
Be aware that this doesn't apply to compound words, so you can have words like yöpaita. It's easier when you start to tell the difference between the words (yö and paita) in the compounds.
I say = Minä sanon
You say = Sinä sanot
He/she says = Hän sanoo
We say = Me sanomme
You say = Te sanotte
They say = He sanovat
Passive = Sanotaan ( Dunno if there is something for that in english )
Tonzy The last one is something like "is/are said"
Dave, when you said: hyvää kiitos it was all good. In our funny language you can pretty much change the order of words and it doesn't matter :D Keep up the good work! I love these videos!
I just got really happy everytime you succeeded at something and seemed so happy :D
Finally you used your time to figure out the easy words letter by letter. Congratulations!
These videos are really interesting and fun to watch! Nice job man :)
Dave you're the man!!! I was cheering for you out loud in my livingroom😂😂😂 KAHDEKSAN KLUBI😎😎
You do pretty well man! Keep it up!
Understandable double consonants and double vocals are hard (as said in the comments), but you will learn them eventually :) They are important.
Don't care about it, if something is hard: Finnish is hard even for us! Just remember that in Finnish we don't have prepositions, so the actual words are so much harder and longer themselves. Our words have postpositions so they look so different comparing to the basic words sometimes... Don't give up, you're doing great!! ❤️
A tip for spelling is that the vocals are said the same way every time. In English if you say the word "Australia" the letter a is said differently each time, but in Finnish they are all said the same way. So learning how the letters are said helps you to spell and pronounce better! :)
I dont recall being more proud of anyone, than in the moment you added the double k to the word ikkuna 😂😂
Actually you nailed it, since: 'Hyvää kiitos' and 'kiitos, hyvää' are exactly the same reply
Dave, you're doing very well!
Don't worry about sanoo/sanoi, not just yet.... sanon, sanot, sanoo, sanomme, sanotte, sanoivat...sanoin, sanoit, sanoi, sanoimme, sanoitte, sanoivat...present and imperfect...You'll learn it it in cause time as you speak and use the language. And if you don't, it doesn't really matter because you'll be understood anyways.
16:12 Deaf Cad
good progress! a small tip: the vowels are divided to 3 groups, front, mid and back depending which part of your mouth they are pronounced in. The front vowels ä,ö,y cant be mixed with the back a,o,u in a word unless its a compund word or a loanword. So if you know for sure theres one of the vowels in a word then its easyish to figure out the rest! mid vowels e,i can be mixed with both.
Helpful tip when learning to spell finnish: one letter = one sound (the "ng" sound is an exception). Helps to recognise double letters too :)
+Dave Cad you weren't complety wrong with trappor - stairs because raput/rappuset is synonym for stairs. 😃🖒
Nahdah 😂😂👌 you're pretty good in Finnish, I just freaking love your videos. I have been saying this thousand times, but you're just too awesome 😂
You have make so much progress it's so crazy!👌cheers bigbear!
I'm from Finland•btw... I love you
That ikkuna really impressed me. Well done!
Where's part 3? :( I like watching these. I also started learning Spanish myself on WordDive, and it's pretty fun. :)