I think you found your inner Finnish person finally, when you sighed "helvetti" in your desperation. When you'll find your first spontaneous "perkele" moment, we'll adopt you to be officially a Finnish dude. :D
"Huudahdukset eli interjektiot ovat tarpeellisia puhekielen pikkusanoja. Niitä käytetään taajaan myös kirjoitetussa kielessä, esimerkiksi nettikeskusteluissa ja tekstiviesteissä."
Good job Cave Dad! Your confusion with "iso" and "isä" prompted me to share with you the Finnish word for grandfather, which is "isoisä" (pronounced exactly as though you were saying both words back to back) :)
I was going to say the exact same thing! Literally "isoisä" means 'big father' but it's the word we use for grandfather. Similarly "isoäiti" (äiti = mother) is grandmother, not 'big mother'. Even though 'iso' usually means 'big', at times it can be translated to 'grand' (i.e. "iso mahdollisuus" = grand opportunity, big opportunity), as is the case with 'isoäiti' and 'isoisä'.
you’re actually getting so much better (I almost let out a shriek of happiness when u got the kahdeksan right) !! These videos are so entertaining so yesss keep doing these please!
Basicly that -ko/-kö ending transforms a sentence into question. For example "otat sen" means "you take it". But when you add the -ko "otatKO sen" it means "DO you take it". Or "paljon vettä" means "a lot of water". And with the -ko ending "paljonKO vettä" means "how much water". And simply "sinä" (you) when added with -kö ending "sinäKÖ" means "you?". Simple and confusing at the same time I know... :D
2:30 But that part of Finnish is the easy one: if there is two letters, you say it longer. If there is just only one, you say it shorter. That's it. You don't have to memorize it for different words.
The languages people are used to listening affect the way they hear, so it's more difficult for english speaking people to hear how long a sound is. Similarly, I'm a Finn and I'm pretty much fluent with English but I still have some trouble when listening to English words that mix a lot of soft consonants.
Heta Virkkunen or in speech: I go You go He/She/it goes We go You go They go And passive going Mä meen Sä meet Hän/se menee Me mennään Te meette He menee Passiivi mennään
Listen Dave. Don't sweat the small stuff. Learn the words and you WILL be understood. The grammar is secondary and will come with time and practice. The MAIN point is being able to communicate. Minut voida sanoit miten tahansa ja kaikkia suomalainen ymmärtänyt miten tarkoitan vaikka melkein kaiken olen kirjotus väärä tahallisesti That's an example of me writing almost everything wrong yet I feel nearly every finnish speaker would understand what I meant from the greater context of the sentence. So don't give up. You'll get there
I don’t think anything in finnish language end to H... But I love these videos. If you do these videos in december you could do a christmas one learning Finnish christmas words and I’m telling you they are some fucked up words
I'm not sure if you have already heard this neat trick about Finnish vowels. If you have a certain word with vowels "aou" in it, the same word never has vowels "äöy", this also works the other way around. So basically there are two types of vowels in Finnish language: the angry ones, "aou" and "äöy" which are never used in the same word with each other, and the friendly ones "i and e" which can be used with every word and vowel. HOWEVER this does not include compounds, because those are just two different words without space separating them. I hope this helps learning :) @Dave Cad
Dave, here is a nice tip for you: In finnish words (words that are not loan words from other languages. So a lot of words in finnish language) we have ”back vowels”(a, o and u), middle-vowels( i and e) and front vowels (ä, ö and y). How does this information help you? Well, if a word has any front vowels, lets say the word ”syödä” , and you type out ”syö-” and you start wondering if it has ”a” or ”ä” , you know for sure that it has ”ä” because it belongs to the same group as ”ö” Someone correct me if Im wrong, but thats the basic idea :)
I'm so proud of you! Olen niin ylpeä sinusta! But you are way too hard on yourself! Mutta olet aivan liian ankara itsellesi! I think you have been learning really well, you have actually surprised me! Minun mielestäni olet oppinut erittäin hyvin, olet itseasiassa yllättänyt minut! Keep up the good work, will be cheering for you here! Jatka samaan malliin, tulen kannustamaan sinua täällä! These videos make me smile! Nämä videot saavat minut hymyilemään! And so adorable you want to learn one of the harders languages in the world for your girlfriend! 😊❤ Ja niin suloista, että haluat oppia yhden maailman vaikeimmista kielistä tyttöystäväsi vuoksi!
An easier way to ask what time is it is just "mitä kello on?". Or "paljon kello on?" To break down the "paljonko", paljon means "a lot" and when you add the -ko it becomes a question, "how much". The -ko/-kö ending depends on the other vowels in the word like you mentioned earlier in the video, so you can't ask "paljonkö" because it breaks the vowel harmony. You might see the -ko/-kö ending elsewhere too so it's handy to remember :)
'Paljon' means 'a lot' or 'lots', but adding 'ko' to the end of 'paljon' just makes it a question, so 'Paljonko kello on?' would mean 'how much is the time' if directly translated.
If you pronauce word 'kahvi', don't breath in when you say it: it's easier to say when you breath out! And the weird endings in words are grammatical cases that are more complicated in Finnish than in English! In English you basicly put the 'ending' before the word (IN English - englanniSSA). They are very complicated, but you'll learn them little by little! Don't give up, you're doing great! 💘
Recent visit to Finland, and I was paralyzed by Finnish! I came home completely in love with the culture and the language...I am now obsessed with watching Finnish TV shows to help me recognize sounds and repetitive words. I love watching your videos and you make me laugh and feel excited to learn! Can't wait to go back to Finland someday!
Dave you starting to hear the letters. Good job. After you can listen to the words you can easily say it and learn. Why it changes..."nobody knows" that is how finnish children feel like in school in a class of Finnish grammar =) Miten saa jokaisen suomalaisen pään hajoamaan? Nomini on suomen kieliopissa sana, joka taipuu sijamuodoissa ja luvussa. Nominit jaetaan tarkemmin neljään sanaluokkaan: substantiivit (nimisanat), adjektiivit (laatusanat), numeraalit (lukusanat) ja pronominit (asemosanat).
There are rules, but native speakers of any language don't need to study them. The way native speakers and language learners learn is completely different for obvious reasons. Mun mielestä enemmän hajottavaa on löytää ne säännöt joiden mukaan verbit oikeesti taipuu tai yleisemminkin millaisten sääntöjen mukaan maahanmuuttajat, vaihtarit yms. oppivat suomea.
Oh my god how cute u are when u trying to learn finnish! 😂 but it’s so nice that u are really trying your best! U are doing so much better than the last time, u got this bro 👊
"vesi" changes to "vettä" due historical reasons (it used to be "vete"). But yeah, I think only people who study linguistics know this ::DD Same thing with "käsi" (hand) -> "kättä". But do not freak out, those forms are rare and you can learn them by heart! Good job with all this learning and thank you for the great videos!
Dave, at 6:54 the word 'vesi' changes to 'vettä', because in the sentence 'Can I have a glass of water?'' water is the object of the action. E.g. auto -> autoa (Can I borrow the car? Voinko [minä] lainata autoa?) laukku -> laukkua (He looks at the bag. Hän katsoo laukkua.) vesi -> vettä (You bought a bottle of water. [Sinä] Ostit pullon vettä.) ---notice the different place of personal pronouns in interrogative sentences neste -> nestettä (liquid) käärme -> käärmettä (snake) mesi -> mettä (nectar, honey) käsi -> kättä (hand) I hope this was helpful even at some level.
I think you should learn some finnish grammar, I think it would help you more than just learning single finnish words. Like why in the pictures the word in question was "mennä" but in the sentence it was "menee". If you know why and how this works, you can apply it to most verbs. Because there is certain logic behind all this, believe it or not.
Hey Dave! If you want to order coffee without sugar, you should say "Kahvi ilman sokeria, kiitos." Which basically means "One coffee without sugar." Thank me later! :)
This was so funny and great video! I'm always so nervous when you are typing the words and I'm here just like "yes, that's correct, don't change it" or like "oh no there's no h letter in that word, please realise to change it" :D Keep up the good work!
Yeah the suspense is real when you're like thinking between double letter and single letter and when you get it right i'm actually celebrating with you :D also with a and ä too. I'm here like "no no no it's ä not a :O"
Dave I am super fricking proud of you! You actually formed a new sentence in Finnish! "Yksi kahvi, kiitos" is perfect and you came up with it all by yourself! Keep it up :)
It makes me so happy to see your face when something just clicks! Finnish really is one of the world's hardest languages, so you really shouldn't be too harsh on yourself when you struggle with the inflections :) It's just so much fun to see you learn! Also a tip: I can't think of a single word on Finnish that ends with the letter h.
I have to say huge thank you Dave for these videos! This gave me good laugh as I’m Finnish, living abroad and trying my best to learn one hell of a Slavic language... You are just like me when I’m trying to learn and it’s hilarious :D You are doing great, good luck and do not give up. Just don’t ever put a ’h’ at the end.
Hey man, you're doing great with the Finnish language. I can imagine it's not one of the easiest languages to study so mad props to you. Thank you for all the entertaining videos!
If it makes you feel any better, I have a friend who is originally from Germany and when I first got to know her, she'd been living in Finland for about 8 years and her Finnish still wasn't perfect but she was managing splendidly with it. So like you said, it's gonna be a long and arduous process but you'll get there! I was happily surprised by this video alone :) Keep going, brother!
basically the words change because in finnish instead of using prepositions such as in or to etc (like in english) we change the ending of the word to express the action. here’s an example: kauppa = store kaupassa = in the store kauppaan = to the store and so on... hopefully this was helpful :)
In worddive you should start doing those grammar exercises (verb conjugation I & II, wasn't it). They'd be helpful for creating your own sentences, like you already kind of did with: "Saisinko teen, kiitos? -> Saisinko kahvin, kiitos?"
I think so too, though basic vocabulary is important to start with, it really helps to recognize at least a bit of what possible noun endings there are, like when a word ends with -ssa or -ssä it means something is somewhere... I mean, there's only what, 18 different cases of nouns and then both singular and plural 1st, 2nd and 3rd person forms of verbs plus a passive.
Also the basic form of verbs which this game uses for single word examples is rarely used, but it is the basis of word formation (to go/"mennä" with personal pronouns for example in present tense singular: minä menen, sinä menet. hän menee, and plural: me menemme, te menette, he menevät and passive form as a bonus: mennään).
words in Finnish never end on consonants except sometimes a singular t, n, l, s, or r. Of these, t and n can mostly appear at the end of any word in certain inflected forms, whereas the others (except s, at least in spoken language) only appear very rarely, in the base forms of words.
You should make a video in which you eat gingerbread-tasting products. 😃 Such as Fazer’s gingerbread chocolate, Arla’s gingerbread curd and gingerbread-Domino 😊
11:37 actually no. The verb mennä is used in both cases: when asking "how is it going" and when speaking about going to somewhere. Also mennä is infinitive, "to go" and it conjugates like this: singular: minä menen (I go) sinä menet (you go) hän *menee* (he/she goes) plural: me menemme (we go) he menevät (they go) te menette (you/You go) Or simply: menen, menet, menee, menemme, menevät, menette; because in finnish the ending tells the doer. One another point: verbs in infinitive never end with a consonant (syödä) ;D Overall fewer words in finnish end with a consonant, its much much rarer than in english
Ä, Ö and Y are usually used together in the same word and A, O and U are used together. I and E can be used with any vowels. It's because the sounds for A O and U are formed at the back if your mouth and Ä Ö Y in the front. Some words make an exception though, like 'olympialaiset' (the olympics), for example. As you can see Y is used with O in it.
I feel your struggle with learning a new language, but believe me, if you can keep up that good motivation that you have, you'll definitely learn Finnish sooner or later. Just try not to rush it, just be happy whenever you learn a new word and when you start knowing words, you can try to combine them and make some sentences. I really want to hear you speaking fluent Finnish some day :)
Fun fact: "iso" (big) is also used for "isä" (dad/father) in poetry and I think in "old finnish" too. For example in Kalevala dad is "iso". Same way mother can be called "emo" instead of "äiti" in poetry and old language even though usually "emo" is used only about animal mothers.
Tsemppiä! You can do it! I think all languages have qualities that are difficult to learn or hear if we're not used to it. Because there is no need to differentiate double letters in English, it makes sense why it can be difficult to hear them in Finnish. Native speakers hear this because it has a meaning whereas language learners have to train their ear to hear it.
Also, vesi changes into vettä, because if he said "saanko lasin vesi", he would say "can i get a glass water". "Saanko lasin vettä" means "can i get a glass *of* water". But yeah, finnish is difficult.
And also, i suggest reading finnish Donald Ducks (Aku Ankka), those have some pretty simple words and i myself learned to read and speak with Aku Ankka :D
Dave, you are doing AMAZING! You know many basics so it will get easier soon! You will be a master some day, just gotta go step by step. Tsemppiä, hyvin menee!👍
Don't worry too much about that menee/mennä mishap Dave! I was cheering for you for even getting the word right haha. I'm learning Spanish in uni rn and went through a fast phased three month course and I still can't conjugate the verbs right. And Finnish conjugation is just madness..
About dubbel letters: You made me remeber that some non-Finnish person said to me (when trying to learn Finnish) that she was afraid to use the word tavata (= to meet), beacuse when conjugating (?) the verb, it comes so close to the verb tappaa (=to kill), and she was using this as an example: "Will I meet you to morrow?" - Tapaanko sinut huomenna?, because she was afraid to mix it with "Tapanko sinut huomenna?" (=Will I kill you tomorrow?). I had never thought there would be a problem there, but obviously, if one is not used to having dubble letters pronounced when spoken, things like these might be confusing :)
p.s. Each time I watch your "Learning Finnish"-videos, I am amazed how well you pronounce Finnish!! You did so good with PYÖRÄ! That would be really difficult with many!!
I don't know if someone already said it, but when you were wondering why the word 'vesi' turned into 'vettä' it was because of the word 'of'. We don't have the small words like 'on', 'in', 'of' etc in Finnish language, so we use different endings instead. So if you were to say for example "saisinko lasin vesi" instead of "saisinko lasin vettä" it would be pretty much the same as saying "may I have a glass water". Also: you are doing fantastic! Finnish is one of the hardest languages in the world, and your pronounciation is already very good! Keep on going, you can do it! 😊
I watched your video where you speak swedish and i have to say, you speak SO fluently! I live in Vaasa, where there is as many swedish speakers as Finnish, and I have tried to learn swedish all my life and my swedish is nothing compared to yours! 😂 So that's amazing! doing a great job 👍
Go dave! Learning any new language is a long and arduous task.. but slow and steady wins the race as they say =) I did fist pump several times .. like when you said "yksi kahvi, kiitos" or when you knew right away what "ei ole uusi" means =) I hope you enjoy these moments too! Love your videos, keep up the good work!
Hi Dave! Like few people have said, that we have no words with h at the very end, but in general we have quite few words that have something else than vowel in the end. I would say that at least 95% of words have vowel as last letter. And when there is no vowel in the end, it usually is letter N. Like ohjain (controller), poljin (pedal) or avain (key). Even if this isn't solid 100% of cases, it covers most of the cases. EDIT: And while thinking, the rest of the words have S in the end, like lihas (muscle) or lammas (sheep). So words end with a vowel, n or s 99,9% of cases at least. And as a actual comment, these videos are very entertaining to watch. First, you keep me amazed how well you can pronounce words that you see or hear first time. Besides that, I would say that your typing is at least very good if not great. I would say that every Finn has problems with "single or double consonant" while they are learning the typing (between the ages of 6 to 9 years old). So if you can do that well, you could say that you are doing at least as well as native children. And they have much more time to put to the learning process (and let's not forget that they have teachers around).
When in doubt, go without - this works well if youre wondering if theres a consonant at the end of a finnish word. Many words do indeed end up in a vowel but the ones that dont.. You can hear it pretty clearly (kreivitäR - countess, tytäR - daughter, aurinkoineN - sunny...) for you, I think it would be helpful to say aloud words like these the proper way, then pronounce them without the last consonant (like first say tytär, then drop the r so it becomes just tytä which doesnt mean anything btw), so you can actually hear the difference - your brain will start to pick it up :) Cat could make you a list of words like these! You could maybe try it for the double letters as well (kisa - race, kissa - cat, lume - illusion/placebo, lumme - water lily)
I know someone's probably pointed it out to you already but "vettä" is the partitive inflection form of the word "vesi" (as in, a part of something = partitive).
If you have any questions about Finnish (or Swedish) I recommend the app called HiNative. As it says in the name, it's an app where native speakers help foreigners to learn different languages :) For example, you can ask what's the difference between "vesi" and "vettä", what some words or sentences mean, how something is said in Finnish or record your pronunciation and ask advice on how to improve it.
One rule I noticed with German and to lesser extent in English is that the vowel before single consonant is long and before double consonants is short. Whereas in Finnish long vowel is actually two vowels a /= aa. With harder consonants (like 'k') in Finnish there is a glottal stop and in softer ones (like 'n') a short stop or prolonged sound before the start of next one. I h
Hello Dave ! I'm also trying to learn Finnish and i have found the app " finnish fun easy learn" quite useful. It has a book with a bee on the icon! Good luck !
"Vesi" is the infinitive form of the word water (or the basic form). "Vettä" is the objective form, for example: "drink water" = "juo vettä". The word changes because Finnish doesn't have prepositions like English does. So for example: "jump into the water" = "hyppää veteen" "come out of the water" = "tule pois vedestä" "you were too long in the water" = "olit liian kauan vedessä"
Well done Dave. I can see you're getting better and better. Don't mind about little mistakes. You have done this such a short time. Usually we finns start to learn english at the age of 9 and still it is far from perfect. Keep going 😊
Dave. Re double consonants. Using your best cockney accent, think how a Londoner might say "a black hat" and how he would say "a black cat". A cockney does not aspirate the h in hat, so that HAT comes out as AT. So both BLACK (h)ATand BLACK CAT contain exactly the same string of consonants, but there is still a DIFFERENCE in the way the cockney pronounces these two things. Ask your fiancé to say "Ä BLÄKKÄT" and then ask her to say "Ä BLÄKÄT". Which one is the cat and which one is the hat? The difference in K compared to KK is in the length of time you pause before sounding the K. Ask her to say KUKA (who) and KUKKA (flower) and listen to how long she holds that K! It is a tiny difference but you can hear it. A cockney knows if the other person is referring to headwear or an animal because of that tiny difference. Next time you are in Finland go see how books are written for children learning to read. KUKA would be written phonetically as KU-KA, but KUKKA would be written as KUK-KA, forcing the K to be held longer.
Im finnish and i love that you keep trying to learn finnish its so awsome. I have notice finnish is hard but if you think finnish word too fast its hard but if you think slow way you maybe get right. And try watch finnish movies maybe that help too🤔
Dave. Finnish is 1 of the hardest languages, and I know 1 reason why. I'll tell some examples: I go = Minä menen You go = Sinä menet She/He goes = Hän menee They go = He menevät You go = Te menette We go = Me menemme And. I run = Minä juoksen You run = Sinä juokset She/He runs = Hän juoksee We run = Me juoksemme You run = Te juoksette They run = He juoksevat These things are hard to remember, but I hope you will learn these. Also different finnish peoples from different cities speak different way. Like: Minä = Minä/Mä/Mie Sinä = Sinä/Sä/Sie I know, hard to remember :D
12:18 that annoyed "helvetti" made you sound like a true fin xD
Somebody from finland JEP!
Jep
Somebody from finland you know "perkele" would have been better
Yoona xo true xd
I think you found your inner Finnish person finally, when you sighed "helvetti" in your desperation. When you'll find your first spontaneous "perkele" moment, we'll adopt you to be officially a Finnish dude. :D
There's like no words in finnish language that has 'h' at the very end
Huh! Häh?
Nuo on huudahduksia👆
voi luoja että ihmiset voi ollakin tyhmiä...
"Huudahdukset eli interjektiot ovat tarpeellisia puhekielen pikkusanoja. Niitä käytetään taajaan myös kirjoitetussa kielessä, esimerkiksi nettikeskusteluissa ja tekstiviesteissä."
onha. esim "syödäh"
Superhappy for you! You actually made your first sentence!! Yksi kahvi, kiitos! GO DAVE!!
Good job Cave Dad!
Your confusion with "iso" and "isä" prompted me to share with you the Finnish word for grandfather, which is "isoisä" (pronounced exactly as though you were saying both words back to back) :)
I was going to say the exact same thing! Literally "isoisä" means 'big father' but it's the word we use for grandfather. Similarly "isoäiti" (äiti = mother) is grandmother, not 'big mother'. Even though 'iso' usually means 'big', at times it can be translated to 'grand' (i.e. "iso mahdollisuus" = grand opportunity, big opportunity), as is the case with 'isoäiti' and 'isoisä'.
Then there's Isoiso(isä/äiti) :P For grand grandfather/mother, ad infinitum.
For a general "ancestral father", the word would be esi-isä.
#luolaisä
Tulin vaan selaa kommenttei jos löytys armyi :))
Oona Karppanen mä ain tho
you’re actually getting so much better (I almost let out a shriek of happiness when u got the kahdeksan right) !! These videos are so entertaining so yesss keep doing these please!
Basicly that -ko/-kö ending transforms a sentence into question. For example "otat sen" means "you take it". But when you add the -ko "otatKO sen" it means "DO you take it". Or "paljon vettä" means "a lot of water". And with the -ko ending "paljonKO vettä" means "how much water". And simply "sinä" (you) when added with -kö ending "sinäKÖ" means "you?". Simple and confusing at the same time I know... :D
2:30 But that part of Finnish is the easy one: if there is two letters, you say it longer. If there is just only one, you say it shorter. That's it. You don't have to memorize it for different words.
6:40 you did it again :) vesa = mans name, vessa = toilet.
Good job with the tee :)
The languages people are used to listening affect the way they hear, so it's more difficult for english speaking people to hear how long a sound is. Similarly, I'm a Finn and I'm pretty much fluent with English but I still have some trouble when listening to English words that mix a lot of soft consonants.
English:
I go
You go
She goes/Frida goes
Finnish:
minä menen
sinä menet
hän menee/Frida menee
sofia_ amelie also
English:
We go
You go
They go
Finnish:
Me menemme
Te menette
He menevät
sofia_ amelie
Passive: mennään
Basic form: mennä
Heta Virkkunen or in speech:
I go
You go
He/She/it goes
We go
You go
They go
And passive going
Mä meen
Sä meet
Hän/se menee
Me mennään
Te meette
He menee
Passiivi mennään
English:
I go
You go
He/she/it goes
We go
You go
They go
Turkish:
Giderim
Gidersin
Gider
Gideriz
Gidersiniz
Giderler
Listen Dave. Don't sweat the small stuff. Learn the words and you WILL be understood. The grammar is secondary and will come with time and practice. The MAIN point is being able to communicate.
Minut voida sanoit miten tahansa ja kaikkia suomalainen ymmärtänyt miten tarkoitan vaikka melkein kaiken olen kirjotus väärä tahallisesti
That's an example of me writing almost everything wrong yet I feel nearly every finnish speaker would understand what I meant from the greater context of the sentence. So don't give up. You'll get there
I don’t think anything in finnish language end to H... But I love these videos. If you do these videos in december you could do a christmas one learning Finnish christmas words and I’m telling you they are some fucked up words
Jadeew Häh? Huh...
Teo Blomqvist oliks toi vitsi?
noi ei oo kunnon sanoja..
jonni Oli vitsi... ei näköjään pitäis vitsailla internetissä my bad🐤
Teo Blomqvist sun huumorintaju on yhtä hyvä ku lampulla
I'm not sure if you have already heard this neat trick about Finnish vowels. If you have a certain word with vowels "aou" in it, the same word never has vowels "äöy", this also works the other way around. So basically there are two types of vowels in Finnish language: the angry ones, "aou" and "äöy" which are never used in the same word with each other, and the friendly ones "i and e" which can be used with every word and vowel. HOWEVER this does not include compounds, because those are just two different words without space separating them. I hope this helps learning :) @Dave Cad
Dave, here is a nice tip for you:
In finnish words (words that are not loan words from other languages. So a lot of words in finnish language) we have ”back vowels”(a, o and u), middle-vowels( i and e) and front vowels (ä, ö and y). How does this information help you? Well, if a word has any front vowels, lets say the word ”syödä” , and you type out ”syö-” and you start wondering if it has ”a” or ”ä” , you know for sure that it has ”ä” because it belongs to the same group as ”ö”
Someone correct me if Im wrong, but thats the basic idea :)
I'm so proud of you! Olen niin ylpeä sinusta! But you are way too hard on yourself! Mutta olet aivan liian ankara itsellesi! I think you have been learning really well, you have actually surprised me! Minun mielestäni olet oppinut erittäin hyvin, olet itseasiassa yllättänyt minut! Keep up the good work, will be cheering for you here! Jatka samaan malliin, tulen kannustamaan sinua täällä! These videos make me smile! Nämä videot saavat minut hymyilemään! And so adorable you want to learn one of the harders languages in the world for your girlfriend! 😊❤ Ja niin suloista, että haluat oppia yhden maailman vaikeimmista kielistä tyttöystäväsi vuoksi!
...And that "Kiva!"... :D Funny dude!
An easier way to ask what time is it is just "mitä kello on?". Or "paljon kello on?"
To break down the "paljonko", paljon means "a lot" and when you add the -ko it becomes a question, "how much". The -ko/-kö ending depends on the other vowels in the word like you mentioned earlier in the video, so you can't ask "paljonkö" because it breaks the vowel harmony. You might see the -ko/-kö ending elsewhere too so it's handy to remember :)
'Paljon' means 'a lot' or 'lots', but adding 'ko' to the end of 'paljon' just makes it a question, so 'Paljonko kello on?' would mean 'how much is the time' if directly translated.
Johannes Jokinen also means much
It would actually be ”how much the clock is”, if directly translated
Perfectly what time is it
Your pronounciation is perfect on swearwords :D Keep that dedication going :D
Henna Veijonen nii totta
If you pronauce word 'kahvi', don't breath in when you say it: it's easier to say when you breath out! And the weird endings in words are grammatical cases that are more complicated in Finnish than in English! In English you basicly put the 'ending' before the word (IN English - englanniSSA). They are very complicated, but you'll learn them little by little! Don't give up, you're doing great! 💘
06:45 Vesa with one s is common male's name in Finland and vessa with double s is toilet. :)
"I know the number eight! That is.. ka.." haha, so cute :D
Recent visit to Finland, and I was paralyzed by Finnish! I came home completely in love with the culture and the language...I am now obsessed with watching Finnish TV shows to help me recognize sounds and repetitive words. I love watching your videos and you make me laugh and feel excited to learn! Can't wait to go back to Finland someday!
Dave you starting to hear the letters. Good job. After you can listen to the words you can easily say it and learn.
Why it changes..."nobody knows" that is how finnish children feel like in school in a class of Finnish grammar =)
Miten saa jokaisen suomalaisen pään hajoamaan?
Nomini on suomen kieliopissa sana, joka taipuu sijamuodoissa ja luvussa. Nominit jaetaan tarkemmin neljään sanaluokkaan: substantiivit (nimisanat), adjektiivit (laatusanat), numeraalit (lukusanat) ja pronominit (asemosanat).
There are rules, but native speakers of any language don't need to study them. The way native speakers and language learners learn is completely different for obvious reasons.
Mun mielestä enemmän hajottavaa on löytää ne säännöt joiden mukaan verbit oikeesti taipuu tai yleisemminkin millaisten sääntöjen mukaan maahanmuuttajat, vaihtarit yms. oppivat suomea.
You are doing great dave! Keep going!
Oh my god how cute u are when u trying to learn finnish! 😂 but it’s so nice that u are really trying your best! U are doing so much better than the last time, u got this bro 👊
Ehdoton yläpeukku,eihelvetti tää äijä on huvittava :Ddd
"vesi" changes to "vettä" due historical reasons (it used to be "vete"). But yeah, I think only people who study linguistics know this ::DD Same thing with "käsi" (hand) -> "kättä". But do not freak out, those forms are rare and you can learn them by heart! Good job with all this learning and thank you for the great videos!
Usually no h at the end of words
Audiojack almost never
Dave, at 6:54 the word 'vesi' changes to 'vettä', because in the sentence 'Can I have a glass of water?'' water is the object of the action.
E.g. auto -> autoa (Can I borrow the car? Voinko [minä] lainata autoa?)
laukku -> laukkua (He looks at the bag. Hän katsoo laukkua.)
vesi -> vettä (You bought a bottle of water. [Sinä] Ostit pullon vettä.) ---notice the different place of personal pronouns in interrogative sentences
neste -> nestettä (liquid)
käärme -> käärmettä (snake)
mesi -> mettä (nectar, honey)
käsi -> kättä (hand)
I hope this was helpful even at some level.
same thing at 10:21 "Ei sokeria kahviin"
sokeri -> sokeria
also an other important thing :D
mennä
minä menen (I)
sinä menet (you)
hän menee (he/she/it)
me menemme (we)
te menette (you)
he menevät (they)
I think you should learn some finnish grammar, I think it would help you more than just learning single finnish words. Like why in the pictures the word in question was "mennä" but in the sentence it was "menee". If you know why and how this works, you can apply it to most verbs. Because there is certain logic behind all this, believe it or not.
'Vesi' means water, but 'vettä' means some water
Indeed. Typically "vesi" would even be "the water".
"Vesi katosi"="The water disappeared"
"Vettä katosi"="Some water disappeared".
Hey Dave! If you want to order coffee without sugar, you should say "Kahvi ilman sokeria, kiitos." Which basically means "One coffee without sugar." Thank me later! :)
This was so funny and great video! I'm always so nervous when you are typing the words and I'm here just like "yes, that's correct, don't change it" or like "oh no there's no h letter in that word, please realise to change it" :D Keep up the good work!
Yeah the suspense is real when you're like thinking between double letter and single letter and when you get it right i'm actually celebrating with you :D also with a and ä too. I'm here like "no no no it's ä not a :O"
Dave I am super fricking proud of you! You actually formed a new sentence in Finnish! "Yksi kahvi, kiitos" is perfect and you came up with it all by yourself! Keep it up :)
It makes me so happy to see your face when something just clicks! Finnish really is one of the world's hardest languages, so you really shouldn't be too harsh on yourself when you struggle with the inflections :) It's just so much fun to see you learn!
Also a tip: I can't think of a single word on Finnish that ends with the letter h.
I have to say huge thank you Dave for these videos! This gave me good laugh as I’m Finnish, living abroad and trying my best to learn one hell of a Slavic language... You are just like me when I’m trying to learn and it’s hilarious :D
You are doing great, good luck and do not give up. Just don’t ever put a ’h’ at the end.
I'm so glad you're marrying her☺️
Hey man, you're doing great with the Finnish language. I can imagine it's not one of the easiest languages to study so mad props to you. Thank you for all the entertaining videos!
If it makes you feel any better, I have a friend who is originally from Germany and when I first got to know her, she'd been living in Finland for about 8 years and her Finnish still wasn't perfect but she was managing splendidly with it. So like you said, it's gonna be a long and arduous process but you'll get there! I was happily surprised by this video alone :) Keep going, brother!
Dave cad
Cave dad
Luolaisä confirmed
basically the words change because in finnish instead of using prepositions such as in or to etc (like in english) we change the ending of the word to express the action. here’s an example:
kauppa = store
kaupassa = in the store
kauppaan = to the store
and so on...
hopefully this was helpful :)
In worddive you should start doing those grammar exercises (verb conjugation I & II, wasn't it). They'd be helpful for creating your own sentences, like you already kind of did with: "Saisinko teen, kiitos? -> Saisinko kahvin, kiitos?"
I think so too, though basic vocabulary is important to start with, it really helps to recognize at least a bit of what possible noun endings there are, like when a word ends with -ssa or -ssä it means something is somewhere... I mean, there's only what, 18 different cases of nouns and then both singular and plural 1st, 2nd and 3rd person forms of verbs plus a passive.
Also the basic form of verbs which this game uses for single word examples is rarely used, but it is the basis of word formation (to go/"mennä" with personal pronouns for example in present tense singular: minä menen, sinä menet. hän menee, and plural: me menemme, te menette, he menevät and passive form as a bonus: mennään).
That's a sneaky ö!
words in Finnish never end on consonants except sometimes a singular t, n, l, s, or r. Of these, t and n can mostly appear at the end of any word in certain inflected forms, whereas the others (except s, at least in spoken language) only appear very rarely, in the base forms of words.
You should make a video in which you eat gingerbread-tasting products. 😃 Such as Fazer’s gingerbread chocolate, Arla’s gingerbread curd and gingerbread-Domino 😊
I love how you sound words out and figure out how they are spelled. Makes me so proud for some reason. You're in the klubi! :D
11:37 actually no. The verb mennä is used in both cases: when asking "how is it going" and when speaking about going to somewhere. Also mennä is infinitive, "to go" and it conjugates like this:
singular:
minä menen (I go)
sinä menet (you go)
hän *menee* (he/she goes)
plural:
me menemme (we go)
he menevät (they go)
te menette (you/You go)
Or simply: menen, menet, menee, menemme, menevät, menette; because in finnish the ending tells the doer.
One another point: verbs in infinitive never end with a consonant (syödä) ;D Overall fewer words in finnish end with a consonant, its much much rarer than in english
That "syödäh" made me laugh XD Next time I can't eat something I'll just say EN VOI SYÖDÄH TÄTÄ!!" XD
It realy makes me smile to see you get questions right time after time! Keep up the good work!
Please, continue learning. You're doing very well!
That ”helvetti” at 12:19 got me laughing XD
Ä, Ö and Y are usually used together in the same word and A, O and U are used together. I and E can be used with any vowels. It's because the sounds for A O and U are formed at the back if your mouth and Ä Ö Y in the front. Some words make an exception though, like 'olympialaiset' (the olympics), for example. As you can see Y is used with O in it.
I feel your struggle with learning a new language, but believe me, if you can keep up that good motivation that you have, you'll definitely learn Finnish sooner or later. Just try not to rush it, just be happy whenever you learn a new word and when you start knowing words, you can try to combine them and make some sentences. I really want to hear you speaking fluent Finnish some day :)
All memes aside, you're making some really remarkable progress and I'm genuinely proud of that 👌
Fun fact: "iso" (big) is also used for "isä" (dad/father) in poetry and I think in "old finnish" too. For example in Kalevala dad is "iso". Same way mother can be called "emo" instead of "äiti" in poetry and old language even though usually "emo" is used only about animal mothers.
Tsemppiä! You can do it! I think all languages have qualities that are difficult to learn or hear if we're not used to it. Because there is no need to differentiate double letters in English, it makes sense why it can be difficult to hear them in Finnish. Native speakers hear this because it has a meaning whereas language learners have to train their ear to hear it.
I'm so proud of you... I can't believe how good you are nowadays
I find these videos very intresting. It's cool to see how you are learning our language.
Also, vesi changes into vettä, because if he said "saanko lasin vesi", he would say "can i get a glass water". "Saanko lasin vettä" means "can i get a glass *of* water". But yeah, finnish is difficult.
And also, i suggest reading finnish Donald Ducks (Aku Ankka), those have some pretty simple words and i myself learned to read and speak with Aku Ankka :D
You should watch Ismo Leikola - Most important word in Finnish language, if you haven't seen it already. 😂
Love these videos!! I'm learning Finnish too, and I get as excited as you when I spell it the same as you do and it's correct!
Good job Dave! And many small victories are better than one big victory when learning something new :)
Dave, you are doing AMAZING! You know many basics so it will get easier soon! You will be a master some day, just gotta go step by step.
Tsemppiä, hyvin menee!👍
Don't worry too much about that menee/mennä mishap Dave! I was cheering for you for even getting the word right haha. I'm learning Spanish in uni rn and went through a fast phased three month course and I still can't conjugate the verbs right. And Finnish conjugation is just madness..
About dubbel letters: You made me remeber that some non-Finnish person said to me (when trying to learn Finnish) that she was afraid to use the word tavata (= to meet), beacuse when conjugating (?) the verb, it comes so close to the verb tappaa (=to kill), and she was using this as an example: "Will I meet you to morrow?" - Tapaanko sinut huomenna?, because she was afraid to mix it with "Tapanko sinut huomenna?" (=Will I kill you tomorrow?). I had never thought there would be a problem there, but obviously, if one is not used to having dubble letters pronounced when spoken, things like these might be confusing :)
p.s. Each time I watch your "Learning Finnish"-videos, I am amazed how well you pronounce Finnish!! You did so good with PYÖRÄ! That would be really difficult with many!!
Dave!! Mennä = to go, Hän menee = She/he goes, Minä menen = I go, Sinä menet = You go (In Finnsh the verb is always conjugated with the "factor"!)
Haha.. I just realized that I had written dubbel instead of double above there (I also speak Swedish, so sometimes things get mixed :) )
Wow, as a Finn I haven't thought a lot how difficult languageeFinnish really is. But your pronouncing sounds really good! Well done Dave! :)
menee = goes
J-A-V Depends from the sentence though.
I don't know if someone already said it, but when you were wondering why the word 'vesi' turned into 'vettä' it was because of the word 'of'. We don't have the small words like 'on', 'in', 'of' etc in Finnish language, so we use different endings instead. So if you were to say for example "saisinko lasin vesi" instead of "saisinko lasin vettä" it would be pretty much the same as saying "may I have a glass water".
Also: you are doing fantastic! Finnish is one of the hardest languages in the world, and your pronounciation is already very good! Keep on going, you can do it! 😊
Nice going Dave! You are making so much progress!
Go for it Dave!!!!! I'm learning with you!!!
You can do it Dave! I really want to see this happen. I'm too invested in this for my own good. Kahdeksanklubbbbi!
I watched your video where you speak swedish and i have to say, you speak SO fluently! I live in Vaasa, where there is as many swedish speakers as Finnish, and I have tried to learn swedish all my life and my swedish is nothing compared to yours! 😂 So that's amazing! doing a great job 👍
#luolaisä 😂👌🏻
Go dave! Learning any new language is a long and arduous task.. but slow and steady wins the race as they say =) I did fist pump several times .. like when you said "yksi kahvi, kiitos" or when you knew right away what "ei ole uusi" means =) I hope you enjoy these moments too! Love your videos, keep up the good work!
Hi Dave! Like few people have said, that we have no words with h at the very end, but in general we have quite few words that have something else than vowel in the end. I would say that at least 95% of words have vowel as last letter. And when there is no vowel in the end, it usually is letter N. Like ohjain (controller), poljin (pedal) or avain (key). Even if this isn't solid 100% of cases, it covers most of the cases. EDIT: And while thinking, the rest of the words have S in the end, like lihas (muscle) or lammas (sheep). So words end with a vowel, n or s 99,9% of cases at least.
And as a actual comment, these videos are very entertaining to watch. First, you keep me amazed how well you can pronounce words that you see or hear first time. Besides that, I would say that your typing is at least very good if not great. I would say that every Finn has problems with "single or double consonant" while they are learning the typing (between the ages of 6 to 9 years old). So if you can do that well, you could say that you are doing at least as well as native children. And they have much more time to put to the learning process (and let's not forget that they have teachers around).
When in doubt, go without - this works well if youre wondering if theres a consonant at the end of a finnish word. Many words do indeed end up in a vowel but the ones that dont.. You can hear it pretty clearly (kreivitäR - countess, tytäR - daughter, aurinkoineN - sunny...) for you, I think it would be helpful to say aloud words like these the proper way, then pronounce them without the last consonant (like first say tytär, then drop the r so it becomes just tytä which doesnt mean anything btw), so you can actually hear the difference - your brain will start to pick it up :) Cat could make you a list of words like these!
You could maybe try it for the double letters as well (kisa - race, kissa - cat, lume - illusion/placebo, lumme - water lily)
I know someone's probably pointed it out to you already but "vettä" is the partitive inflection form of the word "vesi" (as in, a part of something = partitive).
If you have any questions about Finnish (or Swedish) I recommend the app called HiNative. As it says in the name, it's an app where native speakers help foreigners to learn different languages :) For example, you can ask what's the difference between "vesi" and "vettä", what some words or sentences mean, how something is said in Finnish or record your pronunciation and ask advice on how to improve it.
Good job, Dave. So close yet so far ( the story of my life).
One rule I noticed with German and to lesser extent in English is that the vowel before single consonant is long and before double consonants is short. Whereas in Finnish long vowel is actually two vowels a /= aa. With harder consonants (like 'k') in Finnish there is a glottal stop and in softer ones (like 'n') a short stop or prolonged sound before the start of next one. I h
You're killing the game, Dave. Been here from 30k
You're probably a bit, well not pissed, but I'll tell you again: "Beware the K, P and T! They're different!"
Hello Dave ! I'm also trying to learn Finnish and i have found the app " finnish fun easy learn" quite useful. It has a book with a bee on the icon! Good luck !
Marrying a Finnish Swede - so unfair since you have to learn not one, but two languages 😅
"Vesi" is the infinitive form of the word water (or the basic form). "Vettä" is the objective form, for example: "drink water" = "juo vettä".
The word changes because Finnish doesn't have prepositions like English does. So for example:
"jump into the water" = "hyppää veteen"
"come out of the water" = "tule pois vedestä"
"you were too long in the water" = "olit liian kauan vedessä"
Well done Dave. I can see you're getting better and better. Don't mind about little mistakes. You have done this such a short time. Usually we finns start to learn english at the age of 9 and still it is far from perfect. Keep going 😊
You can do it Dave, dust don't give up!👍
LOL so hilarious how you celebrate when you get something right! Keep up good study, Dave!
Dave. Re double consonants. Using your best cockney accent, think how a Londoner might say "a black hat" and how he would say "a black cat". A cockney does not aspirate the h in hat, so that HAT comes out as AT. So both BLACK (h)ATand BLACK CAT contain exactly the same string of consonants, but there is still a DIFFERENCE in the way the cockney pronounces these two things. Ask your fiancé to say "Ä BLÄKKÄT" and then ask her to say "Ä BLÄKÄT". Which one is the cat and which one is the hat? The difference in K compared to KK is in the length of time you pause before sounding the K. Ask her to say KUKA (who) and KUKKA (flower) and listen to how long she holds that K! It is a tiny difference but you can hear it. A cockney knows if the other person is referring to headwear or an animal because of that tiny difference. Next time you are in Finland go see how books are written for children learning to read. KUKA would be written phonetically as KU-KA, but KUKKA would be written as KUK-KA, forcing the K to be held longer.
6:55 Just to know, We dont use ''a'' or ''of'' kind of words so thats why its changes from ''vesi'' to ''vettä''
Im finnish and i love that you keep trying to learn finnish its so awsome. I have notice finnish is hard but if you think finnish word too fast its hard but if you think slow way you maybe get right. And try watch finnish movies maybe that help too🤔
Than you for making me laugh so much! Keep going Dave, you are going to make it! :D
More Dave! You're doing so well! :)
Don't worry, even if I'm cringing and crying and yelling at you, you're still doing pretty good job!
Your Finnish pronounce skills have improved a lot Dave!
You should also look at grammar! It could help you understand, why the words change, like that vesi -> vettä.
the whispered "hel**tti". You are becoming a finn
These are just best (and so funny I laughed so much)! Can’t wait the next part!
Dave. Finnish is 1 of the hardest languages, and I know 1 reason why. I'll tell some examples:
I go = Minä menen
You go = Sinä menet
She/He goes = Hän menee
They go = He menevät
You go = Te menette
We go = Me menemme
And.
I run = Minä juoksen
You run = Sinä juokset
She/He runs = Hän juoksee
We run = Me juoksemme
You run = Te juoksette
They run = He juoksevat
These things are hard to remember, but I hope you will learn these. Also different finnish peoples from different cities speak different way. Like:
Minä = Minä/Mä/Mie
Sinä = Sinä/Sä/Sie
I know, hard to remember :D
A (maybe) helpful tip on whether there's an H or not: no Finnish word ends in an H.
Ndnd except short words such as häh, höh, äh,