How To Install the Creality Sprite Pro Extruder Upgrade
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Hello, 3D Printing friends! Today we're going to install the Creality Sprite Pro Extruder on an Ender-3 Max! This was sent to me by Creality3DOfficial, an authorized Creality reseller.
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I think polarity does matter with this particular hotend on the board (4.2.7 Jyers firmware). When I first switched on and attempted to heat up the nozzle, the printer switched itself off and back on. When i switched the extruder heater cables over, the issue was gone.
Hi Bob, I think you're right. While the heater cartridge itself is not polarized, the breakout board on the Sprite side of the cable may be sharing ground lines between the heater cartridge and other components. If these are the wrong way around, the 24v line gets connected to ground when the printer tries to heat the nozzle, and the board resets. I'm pinning your comment so others see this.
Can confirm the polarity does make a difference. I had to take everything back apart because while testing preheating would loop the power. For the life of me I couldn’t remember where I saw this bit of info. Went back in switched the cables and bam temp didn’t power cycle
@@WillStrip4Bacon Sorry for the confusion on this one. I was thinking in terms of the heater cartridge not being a polarized component, and wasn't expecting the heater cartridge's "ground" lead to be shared with anything else on the Sprite's breakout board.
@@BV3D I’m just glad someone in your community posted on the comments as I was following your video for switching over to the sprite pro. Just swapped out the hotend on my ender 3 v2 to this one. Thanks for the helpful video !
@@WillStrip4Bacon Yep! Kudos to @bob f for pointing that out. It was super important, so I pinned it to the top of the comments! 👍🏻
For anyone here using an ender 3 v2 and a cr touch, you will need to change your x axis limits and parking otherwise it will hit the rhs of the gantry/frame when leveling.
do you remember exactly what you had to set it to? planning to do this upgrade over the weekend
@@NiazDokrat you'll need to either compile your own marlin firmware or you will need to run professional firmware. I think you can run some codes through gcode to reprogram it with stock firmware but I didn't do that approach.
@@leetpg thanks I think I'll run the professional firmware after looking at it
Bless you for making content like this. Some of us are on the casual end of 3D printing, and while we want the prints, and we sometimes require the upgrades to get there, we don't have the kind of engineer brains that easily memorize all the parts, ins, outs, etc. of our devices. I found this video after reading over a write-up on direct drive replacement for a stock E3v2, and it made such an assumption about my preexisting knowledge: there wasn't even a single photograph to help me understand. Being able to get this ELI5 breakdown with video examples of every single step is so important for a user like me, and this isn't the first time your channel has helped me out like this. Thank you for all your good work and your friendly, accommodating presentation. I, and people like me, really appreciate you.
Thank you for replying.
With the help of my son looking at his and telling me he pulgged it in with the short wiring included with my auto leveler, I was able to install it. I didn't even remember that a short wire came with the cr touch! I removed the extruder so I could see and reach the spot.
The last problem I am having is that the hot end probe isn't heating. It blacks out the printer control board screen, then restarts without starting the temp on the probe tip. Due to a nut placement on my Aquila mother board, I had reversed the connectors for the bed and hotend. after correcting the plugs, it is still blacking out the screen and restarting without performing the temp check.
perfect timing - I just got one and waiting for a few prints to finish before I install it
I've got a Sprite Extruder coming in the mail today. This will be my first big upgrade. Thanks for the thorough explanation.
howd it go?
Just found your channel as I was searching for guides on installing the Sprite Pro to my Ender 3 pro, not the most technical minded so this video has helped a lot. Thanks very much, now subscribed and checking out your other videos and also investigating the E-Leveler tool :)
I got this a few months back and installed on my Ender 3 V2. I had few issues that I wasn’t able to sort out so I went back to Bowden. I will say, the few prints I was able to do with this extruder I was very happy with.
I do own a CR Touch and when I reached out to creality about the cable, they sent me one gratis which was cool. Regardless with the CR Touch installed I couldn’t use the max build volume given the new offsets. I know now there are some firmware tweaks to do to fix that.
My other big issue was the thermistor connector would never seat correctly on the board. It would constantly come loose resulting in the printer going into thermal run away and shutting off.
I’ve since shelved the sprite but I plan on revisiting once I get a second printer, my plane was to buy and Ender 3 Max and try my luck there.
Thank you for the great step by step! Just one side note: For those who have an Ender3Pro older than 2020 I recommend reformatting the SD card when trying to save the E-steps or else it will never save. Yes it only saves on the SD card for some reason... and only if the mini SD card has been reformated.
Thank you! Watched a ton of videos and this was the only one that made the wiring portion make sense! Saved a ton of time and hassle!
New Sprite owner here, on my first version CR-X, I've had some WTH!! Got almost everything adjusted except... Your explanation of retraction settings hit home!! Filament has been extruding correctly at first, then experiencing about 3mm of a gap from the filament to the hotend tip. Thanks to your video, I know why... Thanks!!!
I've got about 6 months on my sprite pro/ender v2. Its a pretty solid little extruder. I recently added a second z axis motor and i think all my ender complaints are fixed.
Thanks from Germany for your awesome easy to follow how-to instructions for upgrading my ender 3 pro printer!!!!
Another great and detailed video Bryan. Helped so much . Thanks man 👍
Hi Walter! I'm glad this was useful!
Thank you for this video, just did the upgrade to my ender 3 v2 and your guide was an invaluable tool in this process
Glad it helped
How did you get on with this?I've just done it on my ender 3v2 neo and cant get anywhere with it,for a start the stop sensor on the left is in the wrong place..how did you get around this?Did you install a particular firmware?What offsets did you use?
That retraction setting is what got me!! I missed it the first watch of the video and tried 4 prints unsuccessfully before watching the video again. Change those settings!!!
Brand new to 3D printing and I used this video to upgrade my Ender 3 V2 NEO with the Sprite Pro Extruder. Had to make a mod (described elsewhere) to the X-axis mounting plate so it would hit the limit switch correctly but other than that smooth sailing. Thanks for this vid!
hey man, may i know what you did to install this on the v2 neo?
Yes can u show how u installed this on a V2 Neo
Best breakdown I've seen yet. Subscribed. And I went from maybe to forsure upgrading this on my ender3v2
Excellent, thanks for this video. Upgraded my Ender-3-max with this extruder, works great. Added a second Z-drive too 🙂
Thank you. Really useful and well done.
that last step importing the e step g code is a must ! also be sure you printer ready new e step ..... ps i was missing this step for hours
thank you for this video bro
Thanks for the super awesome guide. I was able to get the Sprite up and running without any issues. I would like to mention that the manual recommends 40 mm/s for retraction as opposed to your suggested 30mm/s. Tbh, I’m not sure how much it will effect the prints. Anyway, keep up the great videos.
Thank you SOOO Much for this video! Just swapped out on my Ender 3. Followed your video step by step!
Glad it helped!
Excellent video, sir. Thank you for this!
Great video, Bryan. When I upgraded a "Ender style" printer to direct drive, I left part of the old extruder installed that held the PTFE tube collet. It turned it into a reverse-bowden setup that allowed me to keep the spool next to the printer as well as keep the filament runout sensor.
I would like to see that setup cuz I can't figure out my setup on my Ender 3 max 😅
Me also please!
I did the same also. Basically took out the "guts" of the OG extruder leaving the frame so can go through the filament sensor still and the bowden coupler so that I could still have bowden tube from the sensor to the direct drive filament inlet. Keeps from having to reengineer a place for the sensor on a top feed spool holder.
Perfect video, ordered a Sprite Extruder Pro.
For the screw ports, besides the power screw port, it's the opposite of righty tighty. Screw right to loosen and then screw left to tighten.
I did this upgrade this evening, along with putting ferrules on the main power and bed wires.
Did the ferrules first and made sure that was done properly before swapping the extruder.
Other than a tight workspace for fat fingers it went well.
Turned it on, and no magic smoke.
Tested the fans, all good.
Hot end was showing -14°C...hmm
Let's do a PID tune.
BEEEEEP MINTEMP error.
Open up the electronics box, check the thermistor cable. Seems to be seated fine, but still giving an error.
Plugged the old thermistor in to make sure I didn't bugger up the board and it was fine.
Plugged the new one back in and checked the cabling.
Apparently the cable didn't seat properly on the extruder end. Reseated it, and it was happy. What should have been a fairly quick swap took a few hours to complete.
Great video! This helped me a lot.
Great video. For the Sprite extruder Pro use the thermistor type 13, there is a special configuration (for V2 and S1) in the repository, also for increase the temperature you can use the custom G-code C104 without having to compile the firmware.
? M104??
@@carlpratt692 no, custom G-code C104
Thanks Miguel, but still not sure how to do this. I have an Ender 3 that I have upgraded with 3V2 - 427 found your software to make it work but haven't figured out how to raise the max temp to 300 yet.@@MiguelRisco
@@carlpratt692, I can't put a URL here but you can find info in the Wiki of the firmware, there are some videos about that.
So i cant use the normal premade 4.2.2 crtouch firmware from you? I need to change the thermistor type?
Brian your videos are Awesome!
I have a question about cable management.
On the bottom of your printer you have a Creality cable bracket.
Where did you get that?
Thank you and keep up the good work!
Great video. Creality in the manual provides a cable holder that can be printed and mounted where the extruder used to be.
Well crap I didn't see that lol, thanks for the info.
Do you have a link for this by chance?
Install the new extruder on a custom 300mmx3 printer running a SKR 1.4 Turbo with TMC2208 drivers. I had to reverse the extruder direction and set the E-steps to 189.9 from 424.9. All good!
This helped me so much.
Hey Bryan! Thanks for the helpful install vid! Are you running Jyers Firmware with this new set-up? It looked like that Jyers on the display, but I'd like to be sure. Cheers.
Thank you for this great video. Do you recommend this upgrade from a Bowden style? Is it a better extruder?
thank you it helped
Great video !
When I installed the Sprite Pro on my stock Ender 3 a few months ago I got better results using 430.85 mm on the extruder steps, and if using a CR touch just select the "Ender 3 S1" in the Creality slicer. At least that worked on my 2019 stock Ender 3.
Also changed mine to exactly 431 a few days ago.
Nice walkthrough. Have one of these things on order (delivery expected this coming Wednesday) for my E3v2 after having multiple headaches over the past couple of years with the stock hotend that I just can't seem to fix in a way that lasts. I'll get it working "just right", and it'll be good "for a while", then it'll start jamming at the nozzle - it behaves like a blocked nozzle, but no amount of pulls, or needle probes, or even nozzle replacement cures the problem long-term. I suspect that my bowden tube isn't getting placed "properly", or perhaps it's "burning away", or any of several other "perhaps..." items. Since the hotend fan is also doing a good impression of giving up the ghost, and I've been wanting to start working in TPU, which wants a direct drive extruder anyway, figured it was time to pull the trigger on getting the Sprite.
Another excellent video, and interesting comments as well.
VERY NICE JOB. THANK YOU!!
Thank you for the awesome content, I’m currently trying to figure out the x,y offset for this exact setup but with the cr touch!
Did you ever figure out the correct settings? Lol I’m going crazy trying to find the correct settings.
Thank you Sir for this educational video. 🤩🤩 hoping to do the same on my Max
With skr mini e3 v3 dual z bltouch
Hi Bryan.Thanks for the great video. do you perhaps have the link for that spool holder.
"Bits are cheap" so take pictures.
PID tuning of the new hotend is a good idea too.
Thanks for the tutorial Bryan! I have an Ender 3 Max Neo and after watching your video I could install it easily. But the printer doesn't work well with the CR touch being moved to the outside of the bed while leveling and the printer considering the printing area like the smaller versions. Creality doesn't have intention to release the firmware anytime soon and I'm not capable of compiling one myself, What do you recommend me to do? Thanks!
Wow, i havent seen a video from you in a awhile! Glad youre still among the living in Austin. And.. my sympathies for what that area has become.
Great video!! Very informative! Will this work for the Ender 3 Max Neo?
Super helpful Bryan, thankyou!
I did have an issue though. Everything was good to go until I heated up the hotend. I'm getting large fluctuation in temperature. I'm guessing that means either the block fan or is bad, or the thermistor is bad after all (it matched the bed on powerup)? I just want to make sure I'm not missing something before swapping for a new one.
I like how you do these upgrade video's. Minimum off-topic rambling while touching on all the pertinent actions that need to be taken. I'm watching your installation of Sprite Pro to a 4.2.7 board primarily to verify my wiring. Those spare JST male plugs make this task harder than it needs to be. One observation that I have noticed several instruction videos say is this. " No mount for BL-Touch."
There is no mount on the X-Axis plate as you say, but the mount is on the extruder itself. Just to the right of the hot end cooling fan. Sort of between the hot end fan and the part cooling fan. I ran a thin wire fish tape through that long ribbon cable and pulled the BL-Touch wire up to the Sprite.
Legendary as always. Would these instructions suit a conversion on the Ender 3 v2?
I have this running on my Ender 3v2 :) On some versions of the sprite kit, the heater cartridge is disconnected from the back plate - look for the two red wires going from the heater cartridge to behind the fan. You need to fish out the plug, and plug it into the appropriate socket, or the hotend won't heat :) Also, thing 5421432 provides an adapter for the CR-Touch, without which the probe can' reach the entire bed.
What X and Y offset did you use with this adapter? I updated my ender v1 to a 4.2.7 board and the sprite pro with the cr touch. I found another video that gave the offset and it seems to work well. My biggest issue is I’m trying to figure out how to change the mesh distance. When it goes full right it will grind due to the size of the sprite pro. Any suggestions? I’m using the creality firmware for the 3v1
@@seankealy5254 My kit came with new shorter screws and flatter nuts for the carriage wheels so it can clear when it goes all the way to the right. My probe offsets are set at x (-31.5) & y (-49.5).
Good call. Mine failed to heat up on first try. Then read you comment and pulled the head off and the heater wire was tucked in behind the fan. I saw the open plug and just figured it was for a feature on another printer. If I would have looked close I could have pulled it out wiht out removing the head.
Thanks! I was plugging and unplugging all the wires before I read your comment!
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I didn't need this video but holy crap did you do a good job
Hello thank you for the video. I know it can be mounted to other printers besides the ones they list. Would you happen to know if it could be put on a longer LK5 pro?
Can this extruder work with a cr-6 max? Love the video!, thanks for taking the time to do it.
Thanks!
this video dosnt say that the Extruder comes with the Heat cartrige unplugged! Its just tugged in the hotend! I spend 4 hours troubleshooting and ordering new mainboards and nearly through the whole thing against the wall until i tugged on the cartrige cables and saw they where just sitting there without beeing plugged in! Apparently Creality changed something here and your viewers should now that!
Dude thank you so much. I just did the same thing till I saw your comment. Literally spent hours troubleshooting.
Same here man
I was about to throw it out. Thanks!
Dude thanks a lot! I'm in the process of installing mine and you saved me the hours of headbanging. Indeed the connector is jammed against the fan with no mention in the installation instructions included
Ahhh yes. Just saved me the same 4 hours
Do you think is really needed to rotate the filament spool?
Did you have to adjust your X offset after installing the Sprite, see as how the extruder mount is wider?
I just upgraded my Ender 3 Max with the Sprite Pro Extruder kit. Working in every other way but the speed as slowed right down while printing. It is set on the screen as 100% speed but seems to be only doing half that. Is there something I forgot to do with this upgrade. Thanks
does anyone know what the printer head settings are for this extruder in cura, X min, Y min, X maz, Y maz and Gantry Height??
Hi Bryan. Great video. May I ask what's your overall experience with the sprite extruder pro kit? Have you tried the micro swiss NG DD?
Hi, really awesome explanation, I'm thinking to upgrade my ender 3 pro with the sprite pro extruder but would like to know what advantages have you noticed after upgrade compared with the stock one including the high temp printing capability, can we print faster, can we print cf or other special material with it?
I'm about to get this kit and get rid of the bond tech extruder system I got. I've had nothing but trouble with it and they don't make replacement parts or I haven't been able to find them for the gears that push the filament through to the hot end.
I have a skr mini E3 V3.0 and a Creality Sprite extruder pro. will you please do a video no the setup and instal of this extruder on the skr min E3 V3.0
Great video I have a question do u need dual z axis to upgrade to this extruder?
I notice you have upgraded the motherboard cooling fan to larger one,
What cover did you use and what thickness fan ?
Just to help my ed3 v2 I was able to move the filament roll holder to the front and putting the ring on the back and was able to run filament for a dd setup
I really wish Creality would have come out with this before I bought a MicroSwiss direct drive kit. This looks more compact and lighter.
Please keep us updated on how well it holds up.
This product is already being sold, which is lighter and tight compared to it.
Hi,
Mine is not in the center when on 110x110. Can you make a video where you configure marlin?
Thank you for the video. Do you think this can be installed on the longer lk5 pro?
Great video! liked and subscribed! Although, when installing the CR Touch how do I connect the probe to the board? Is another port on the sprite for the board? or do i have to run the wire it can with down the ribbon?
what touchpad do you have is it possible to send a link im new to 3d printing and i just bought a ender3 max tnx great video
great video thank you for taking the time to put this together! Just installed the sprite pro onto an ender 3 max neo. Exact same board as yours, i noticed it looks like you just left the electronics enclosure fan unplugged - is that correct / not needed?
I'm new to this but there's a heat sink in the electronics box, so something is getting hot. Since they put a fan in there, it could get too hot without the fan I'd think and possibly lead to damage or even fire.
Hi awsome video ....cant for the life of me find a top mount spool holder for my ender 3 max....what one did you use and a link if possible...cheers
After installing my Sprite Pro with the Professional Firmware and my BLTouch I thought everything was fine. I trammed the bad set the offsets to match the BLTouch bracket, these are known offset values. When I print everything homes fine but the nozzle is several millimeters to high. I used the same firmware and BLtouch with my stock Ender 3 v2 extruder and it worked like a dream. I'm out of ideas, if anyone has any suggestions please let me know!
Hi !...
Can you please, tell me the difference between the two types of printers: Ender 3 and CR?
Wich is better and why? Or maybe to make a video to explain differences?
Thank you
Great video does anbody know the 2 lines of code to set the e steps? I would love to get the thing working correctley.
Hey Bryan I don't if you will see this but I am having a issue where the firmware locks on the startup screen? I believe everything is hooked in correctly
In my Ender 3 Max 4.2.2, I'm pretty sure the hot end fan leads share the same connection as the mainboard fan leads. When I went back to start connecting things, the mainboard fan leads were dangling loose but were bent just right to suggest they were connected in the _same place_ the hot end fan leads were.
hi bryan, loved your video. just cannot find any people who did a video of adding a bltouc/crtouch after that. always restarting from a stock printer. would love if you can add those :)
Should you remove the X-axis endstop? I noticed that you can't move the nozzle to the left edge.
I was like WHERE DO THESE EXTRA PLUGS GOOOOOO!!!! Thanks lol
I upgraded my v2 to direct drive with the metal single gear extruder with a mount I printed... so far, I had no issues... makes sense to make this upgrade?
Thanks for this really helpful video. I have just installed the Sprite Extruder Pro+ kit on my Ender 3 S1 but there is a discrepancy in the instructions. You said the steps/mm needs to be set to 424.9, but the manual in the box says it should be 475 - which setting do you think I should use?
Can it be installed onto a cr-10 mini? I have an old one and would love to revitalize it with this kind of upgrade!
@Bryan Vines - Is it possible to get the link to your filament spool holder, I've been looking everywhere for it
I noticed in your video that your heater cartridge is already plugged in to the sprite's board but it did not come that way for me (and many others). The connector was wedged behind the fan and there was a blue note on it that said "connect before use". Wasn't anywhere in the instructions!
One thing that had me confused on this upgrade was the fact that the original cable connected to the fan plus and minus terminals had a split in it where the motherboard case fan was attached. The new cable did not. I saw you disconnect this red connecter in the video, but did not see how you connected back to power. I ended up cutting the original cable just after the fan plug and connecting both this cable and the new fan cable into the terminals so the motherboard case would still have cooling. Any comments on how to do this better? Thanks for the great tutorial!!!
I'm interested to find out if you lose vertical print height when installing this extruder? Does it hit the top of the gantry ? Thanks
can you do a video on setting the firmware to the 300c setting i have the same machine
Is it possible to get my ender 3 v2 leveled, set up and first test print without the use of a computer. I ask because I don't have access to a computer right now and I finished building and attempting to get the bed leveled. Thank so much for any helpful advice you may have.
Do you know if the Creality Sprite Pro Extruder kit an be installed on a Creality Ender 3 V2 Neo?
Is there a link I can follow to find that handy clip you put on the underside?
I already own a CR auto-touch leveling. We have mounted it to the Sprite Pro Extruder but I can not find where to connect the auto leveling cable to the new Pro Extruder. Any help would be appreciated.
Doris G.
When disconnecting the original fan cables, the upper cable (red and black) goes to the fan for cooling the board, should this be reconnected as well?
Thank you always for the great videos, and I especially appreciate you doing ender 3 Max videos. Question my y-axis keeps skipping and I really believe it's due to temperature due to the motor being hot. Can you make a video on making sure the voltage is correct? And I also noticed that the end of three max doesn't have a 4234 on the y it has a 4240. I have a 4.2.2 board and I don't know if I want to replace the motor the board and just your thoughts on troubleshooting the situation or things I should buy or look into. Be really interested to see a video on what you thought. Thank you for your time
For the record, I live in Southern California and it's been over a hundred the last 3 weeks and it just started doing this and my motor is very hot to the touch
i got everything installed and updated everything and now the bltouch when leveling it goes of the bed on the first corner of it and i try editing the fireware twice and nothing chane so i went back to the base blt fw i dont know what to do
Is K Fan 2 for the main board? And K fan 1 for the extruder cooling fan variable? I upgraded this board over a year ago, and I might have swaped them. Some diagrams I found online seem to say K2 is for the main board.
Do you have another video with you installing the cr touch for this too