The directions are simplistic and the ease of installation is awesome. I've installed other storm doors where you've needed an interpreter to figure out the directions. Being in the building industry for 25 years and have worked for various lumber yards and suppliers, this is the best security door bar none! Just installed ours and absolutely love it. The only con if I could come up with would be the white plastic guide brackets that are attached to the strike side Z-bar. There should be 2 pre-drilled holes and was only one per bracket which made the directions just a tad confusing. Just needed to pilot drill my own when I reversed the hinging. For $220 bucks at Home Depot, this door is heavy and solid plus it's very well constructed overall. Even the half screen which came with it was heavy!
If I kindly may say that the door closure Grisham supplies is not meant for these doors. Mine was not working where the door would properly close at a slow steady speed. I work on storm doors quite often, so I replaced it with another one that works much more effectively. All in all, it doesn't change my opinion of how well the door is!
I've installed two of these doors (front and back) and found it very easy to do. However, when installing the expander at bottom of the door, I used IRWIN QUICK-GRIP Clamps to keep the expander from moving while drilling the holes. That worked great for me. Note: You have to remove the glass, which I did anyway to make the door easier to grip and handle.
7:15 messed me up. I installed the closer while the door was open. So of course the door couldn't be closed and I now have two extra holes on the strip closest to the bracket. Then at 7:33 I realize the door is now closed. Is that strip available as a spare part? For now I just covered them up with JB Weld and some paint. Other than that little hiccup, this video helped me do something I've never done before.
The mullion strip is replaceable . I have supplied the part numbers Black - BLACKMULL White - WHITEMULL You would need to visit your local Home Depot to special order the part. Another option is to simply cap off the added screw holes with two additional #10 x 1/2" or 3/4" Phillips head screws. Hope this helps. Thank You, Grisham Bros.
We just installed our door today and had to put the deadbolt below the knob because the lever handle on the knob kept hitting the knob on the inside door.
In a few cases the entry door locks might come in contact with the security doors lockbox which is factory positioned to avoid contact with the entry door lock. In this case the entry door bore holes may have been bored out by the owner of the home and not positioned at the standard conventional factory pre-drilled locations. Using the European style handles help in clearance issues. Hope this helps. Thank You, Grisham Bros.
Thank you yes that answers my question that your bore location takes into consideration the existing door in my case on my house. I am installing this 501 door. They are standard factory bores. I was just curious when I saw the deadbolt being installed on the bottom I would like to do a picture handle and was concerned with the knob colliding but if they are offset, I think I will be fine thank you
My Grisham security will not open and its stuck and I didn't even have it locked. Does anyone have any suggestions. Their customer service is non existence. Hold for a long period of time then off to voicemail were no one returns your calls. I've only had my screen door a couple of years and it was installed by home depot. Any suggestion as to how to get this door open. It's a safety risk. Thanks so much? I pray I will not have to purchase a door thats been gently used.
The safety glass that you use, is it only at the top and a bug screen at the bottom? Or is it 100% glass from top to bottom? Is the 467 series 100% glass or does it have a screen mesh at the bottom? If I want to use a key on the dead-bolt on the inside of the door, how do I do that? Do I have to use a locksmith to make that change or do you offer a different part?
Mark,The door is has tempered safety glass in both upper and lower panels. The supplied ventilation screen is interchangeable for top or bottom installation. The door accepts most 2-3/8" backset locksets. Can be double keyed or thumb-turn for easy exit. If you have concerns about someone tampering with the thumb-turn, then we have an accessory product called the door cuff. I have supplied a link to that video th-cam.com/video/0xrmspJcvDM/w-d-xo.html please let me know if you have any additional questions. Thank You....
When I order a 467 series door from Home Depot, what else will I need to purchase that does not come standard with the door? A door knob and dead-bolt lock? And what else will I need?
Only the lock. Most locks with a 2-3/8" backset will work perfectly. We also include brass machine threaded screws to secure the striker and deadbolt to the doors lockbox. Traditional locksets include wood screws that will not work in this application.
The auger would be required In the event you would have to drill out a pocket for the deadbolt and latch on the strike side of the door. Some use chisel and hammer to accomplish.
@@grishambros7662 Okay, but do you really think those tiny screws are effective against a crowbar attack? You can't be serious... And those locks can be defeated easily - either using destructive or non-destructive methods. No offense but America has to improve a lot when it comes to security.
Yes, as the video demonstrated, the entire inner parameter of the z-bar is to be secured with additional fasteners. The fasteners are concealed and only accessible when the door is wide open. Thank You, Grisham Bros
@@grishambros7662 Those screws are tiny which means the jamb isn't fitted strongly enough to the wall - it's easy to force it out of its place with a crowbar so it doesn't matter that it has some concealed screws... In my country, insurance companies require the installer to use at least 3.93" screws in case of concrete walls, and at least 5.9" screws in case of brick walls. And the installer must weld or destroy the edges of every screw head so that they can only be removed by force (e.g. with an angle grinder or drill but not with a simple screwdriver). The point is: in my opinion, this so called security door isn't that secure after all (ofc it's better than nothing but it could be much better). No offense, though.
@@gergogonzalen9729 While I agree with you on your points, this door is more for the quick smash and grab burglar. Won't stop a more professional one. However it will still buy time. For me personally my doors are already hardened against breaking in. Not impenetrable, but definitely harder to get in. Im thinking of getting this for my back door as just another layer of protection.
Yes, the door z-bar frame is longer than the door to accomodate an opening height up to 80-3/4" high. So if your opening is 80-1/2 high, then you would cut the z-bar to 80-3/8" long. The process involves cutting the z-bar 1/8" less than your overall height size. Hope this helps and thanks for your question.
I'm just upset that my door didn't come with all of this.. just a door & frame. I had to buy a knob & deadbolt & door closer. Shesh 🤦🏾♀️ As I was watching the video I was thinking "wait! I didn't get that.. or that!" Lol
Adrienne, The lockset is not included and is a secondary purchase in the hardware aisle. The closer unit and the other installation hardware should have been located at the top of the flip top lid of the door box. Thank You, Grisham Bros.
All of the Grisham Security storm doors have an equal amount of concealed screw holes on the inner parameter of the z-bar channel. The inner screws are Not visible or accessible to any tools or pry-bars for removal. The Exterior screws position the door in place for installation, and the concealed screws complete the safety installation process. At 5:50 of the installation video we discuss the concealed screw application. The engineering aspects of the Grisham doors were very well thought through for your safety.Thank You,Grisham Bros.
If a new door, then the screen is piggy backed to the glass panel during shipping. Will require removing the silver color temporary retaining clips that hold both the glass panel and screen in place. Remove the glass panel and position the screen in its place and secure with the glass clips. (Will require the use of a Phillips head screwdriver) The screen panel is interchangeable and can be positioned in the upper or lower panel areas. Hope this helps.
Not necessary. As explained in reply to your earlier statement. You do want to make sure your brick-mold or mounting surface is securely in place into the wall studs and door frame.Thank You,Grisham Bros
Wind chain spring.. The one that came with mine looks different than the one I saw in a video. It has no way to grab the two ends to wrap around the nail or the chain.
I’m using the “ask for installation references at HD method.” I have double front doors; one is a dummy door unless you go through the time to unlock it from the floor and ceiling which is going to require new hardware because those slots, just like the ones on French doors, can be popped with a flat piece of metal in about 10 seconds and both your doors will swing open silently (seriously folks, if you didn’t know this, check it out. It will have you drilling screws before the video is over to protect your family for the night. th-cam.com/video/usm9k8Jyfgs/w-d-xo.html Currently I have a long 2x4 mounted across the inside of the doors because they open inward and only about 1/3 of the deadbolt will fit into the corresponding hole. We just moved in a few weeks ago and are still surprised the former sellers weren’t attacked in their sleep. My 3 yr old niece could push the door in. We also have these Defender flip locks th-cam.com/video/VTvm_XKeAZM/w-d-xo.html at 3 locations on the doors and would have the Nightlock Door Barricade th-cam.com/video/OYBngOjzOwI/w-d-xo.html floor slider ones (easily the best on the market) if the entryway wasn’t marble. Sorry this is a bit long, but I figure people wouldn’t be on a How to Install a Security Door video unless they were concerned with security. Best of luck in whatever you choose.
How is this a Security Door? All you have to do is unscrew the door from the house. Step #5 at 3:30 shows the door is simply fastened with #10 x 1 in. screws all the way around!
Very good point. The Grisham security door is designed with an equal amount of concealed screw holes that are non-accessible once the door is closed. At 5:50 we describe the concealed fastener application. Thank You,Grisham Bros.
Remember, take into consideration the interior concealed screws as well. It’s always advisable to secure the brickmold to the wall studs with some 3-1/2 screws. The door screws will hold the door in place as long as the brickmold mounting surface is secure. Thank you for your question.
The directions are simplistic and the ease of installation is awesome. I've installed other storm doors where
you've needed an interpreter to figure out the directions. Being in the building industry for 25 years and
have worked for various lumber yards and suppliers, this is the best security door bar none! Just installed
ours and absolutely love it. The only con if I could come up with would be the white plastic guide brackets
that are attached to the strike side Z-bar. There should be 2 pre-drilled holes and was only one per bracket
which made the directions just a tad confusing. Just needed to pilot drill my own when I reversed the hinging.
For $220 bucks at Home Depot, this door is heavy and solid plus it's very well constructed overall. Even the
half screen which came with it was heavy!
William,Thank you for your kind review, and our hope is that the Grisham security door will serve you and your family well. Sincerely, Grisham Bros.
If I kindly may say that the door closure Grisham supplies is not meant for these doors. Mine was not working where the door would properly close at a slow steady speed. I work on storm doors quite often, so I replaced it with another one that works much more effectively. All in all, it doesn't change my opinion of how well the door is!
I've installed two of these doors (front and back) and found it very easy to do. However, when installing the expander at bottom of the door, I used IRWIN QUICK-GRIP Clamps to keep the expander from moving while drilling the holes. That worked great for me. Note: You have to remove the glass, which I did anyway to make the door easier to grip and handle.
7:15 messed me up. I installed the closer while the door was open. So of course the door couldn't be closed and I now have two extra holes on the strip closest to the bracket. Then at 7:33 I realize the door is now closed. Is that strip available as a spare part? For now I just covered them up with JB Weld and some paint. Other than that little hiccup, this video helped me do something I've never done before.
The mullion strip is replaceable . I have supplied the part numbers Black - BLACKMULL White - WHITEMULL You would need to visit your local Home Depot to special order the part. Another option is to simply cap off the added screw holes with two additional #10 x 1/2" or 3/4" Phillips head screws. Hope this helps.
Thank You,
Grisham Bros.
I am curious why he installed the Deadbolt below the knob. I have never seen that before. I will stick with the traditional way. Thanks for the video
We just installed our door today and had to put the deadbolt below the knob because the lever handle on the knob kept hitting the knob on the inside door.
So it doesn't interfere with the knob on the other door.
Can I install with glass removed to lighten weight or do they need to stay in to keep square? Thanks
Yes, you can remove the glass panels. Absolutely no concern for out of square. Welded solid at all points....
its easy to open. key on auto on lock. soo just take window down. push your hands in and done
Not sure I understand your question or perhaps a comment?
GREAT VIDEO.
Is there a chance door knob will collide with entry door knob? Is that why this video shows deadbolt installed in bottom hole? Thanks
In a few cases the entry door locks might come in contact with the security doors lockbox which is factory positioned to avoid contact with the entry door lock. In this case the entry door bore holes may have been bored out by the owner of the home and not positioned at the standard conventional factory pre-drilled locations.
Using the European style handles help in clearance issues. Hope this helps. Thank You, Grisham Bros.
Thank you yes that answers my question that your bore location takes into consideration the existing door in my case on my house. I am installing this 501 door. They are standard factory bores. I was just curious when I saw the deadbolt being installed on the bottom I would like to do a picture handle and was concerned with the knob colliding but if they are offset, I think I will be fine thank you
@@grishambros7662 do you have a dimension from bottom or top of door to center of holes? On Genesis 501
My Grisham security will not open and its stuck and I didn't even have it locked. Does anyone have any suggestions. Their customer service is non existence. Hold for a long period of time then off to voicemail were no one returns your calls. I've only had my screen door a couple of years and it was installed by home depot. Any suggestion as to how to get this door open. It's a safety risk. Thanks so much? I pray I will not have to purchase a door thats been gently used.
The safety glass that you use, is it only at the top and a bug screen at the bottom? Or is it 100% glass from top to bottom? Is the 467 series 100% glass or does it have a screen mesh at the bottom? If I want to use a key on the dead-bolt on the inside of the door, how do I do that? Do I have to use a locksmith to make that change or do you offer a different part?
Mark,The door is has tempered safety glass in both upper and lower panels. The supplied ventilation screen is interchangeable for top or bottom installation. The door accepts most 2-3/8" backset locksets. Can be double keyed or thumb-turn for easy exit. If you have concerns about someone tampering with the thumb-turn, then we have an accessory product called the door cuff. I have supplied a link to that video th-cam.com/video/0xrmspJcvDM/w-d-xo.html please let me know if you have any additional questions. Thank You....
When I order a 467 series door from Home Depot, what else will I need to purchase that does not come standard with the door? A door knob and dead-bolt lock? And what else will I need?
Only the lock. Most locks with a 2-3/8" backset will work perfectly. We also include brass machine threaded screws to secure the striker and deadbolt to the doors lockbox. Traditional locksets include wood screws that will not work in this application.
Okay, thanks!
lol I wish it took
Great comments. A customer would be fortunate to have you as their installer. Thanks....
Awesome vid thanks!
Thank You.
Where can I get replacement panels for this door?
Glass or screen panels can be ordered through Home Depot. Please visit your local Home Depot to process your request.
Thank You,
Grisham Bros.
Says a 3/4" Auger Bit is needed. Is this for the deadbolt installation?
The auger would be required In the event you would have to drill out a pocket for the deadbolt and latch on the strike side of the door. Some use chisel and hammer to accomplish.
So just unscrew the frame from the Outside and the entire door will fall down? Seems to me like it should have concealed the screws.
All Grisham security storm doors have concealed screw holes throughout. 5:51 of the video defines their location.
Thank You,
Grisham Bros.
@@grishambros7662 Okay, but do you really think those tiny screws are effective against a crowbar attack? You can't be serious... And those locks can be defeated easily - either using destructive or non-destructive methods. No offense but America has to improve a lot when it comes to security.
Yes, as the video demonstrated, the entire inner parameter of the z-bar is to be secured with additional fasteners. The fasteners are concealed and only accessible when the door is wide open. Thank You, Grisham Bros
@@grishambros7662 Those screws are tiny which means the jamb isn't fitted strongly enough to the wall - it's easy to force it out of its place with a crowbar so it doesn't matter that it has some concealed screws... In my country, insurance companies require the installer to use at least 3.93" screws in case of concrete walls, and at least 5.9" screws in case of brick walls. And the installer must weld or destroy the edges of every screw head so that they can only be removed by force (e.g. with an angle grinder or drill but not with a simple screwdriver). The point is: in my opinion, this so called security door isn't that secure after all (ofc it's better than nothing but it could be much better). No offense, though.
@@gergogonzalen9729 While I agree with you on your points, this door is more for the quick smash and grab burglar. Won't stop a more professional one. However it will still buy time. For me personally my doors are already hardened against breaking in. Not impenetrable, but definitely harder to get in. Im thinking of getting this for my back door as just another layer of protection.
Is the door longer is that's why you cut 1/8 at the bottom? Is this mandatory to do this process
Yes, the door z-bar frame is longer than the door to accomodate an opening height up to 80-3/4" high. So if your opening is 80-1/2 high, then you would cut the z-bar to 80-3/8" long. The process involves cutting the z-bar 1/8" less than your overall height size. Hope this helps and thanks for your question.
@@grishambros7662 Ok so my door height is 81 inch so whats my cut ?
I'm just upset that my door didn't come with all of this.. just a door & frame. I had to buy a knob & deadbolt & door closer. Shesh 🤦🏾♀️
As I was watching the video I was thinking "wait! I didn't get that.. or that!" Lol
Adrienne,
The lockset is not included and is a secondary purchase in the hardware aisle. The closer unit and the other installation hardware should have been located at the top of the flip top lid of the door box.
Thank You,
Grisham Bros.
Reversible of security door hinges
One inch screws? Youre joking right? No special head? Philips on the outside? No one way screws? Someone can just unscrew the door from outside
All of the Grisham Security storm doors have an equal amount of concealed screw holes on the inner parameter of the z-bar channel. The inner screws are Not visible or accessible to any tools or pry-bars for removal. The Exterior screws position the door in place for installation, and the concealed screws complete the safety installation process. At 5:50 of the installation video we discuss the concealed screw application. The engineering aspects of the Grisham doors were very well thought through for your safety.Thank You,Grisham Bros.
I have this same.door. how do I access the screen?
If a new door, then the screen is piggy backed to the glass panel during shipping. Will require removing the silver color temporary retaining clips that hold both the glass panel and screen in place. Remove the glass panel and position the screen in its place and secure with the glass clips. (Will require the use of a Phillips head screwdriver) The screen panel is interchangeable and can be positioned in the upper or lower panel areas. Hope this helps.
Will the install accept 4 inch one way screws?
Not necessary. As explained in reply to your earlier statement. You do want to make sure your brick-mold or mounting surface is securely in place into the wall studs and door frame.Thank You,Grisham Bros
@@grishambros7662 i dont feel comfortable with one inch screws could i use 4 inches? what head number are screws provided?
#10 x 1"inch is provided.
@@grishambros7662 how many? and would 4 inches work?
13 screws for the outside z-bar parameter. Not sure if 4" inch screws will work correctly with your mounting surface.
Amigo todo está bien Nomás que yo no sé inglés hablo español y no entiendo nada
Looked like the strike was put in backwards.
Lock strike is in correct orientation. Slant of striker is to engage with cover plate.
I don't know why I am having such a tough time getting the spring attached!
Are you referring to the door closer or wind chain assembly?
Wind chain spring.. The one that came with mine looks different than the one I saw in a video. It has no way to grab the two ends to wrap around the nail or the chain.
The small spring is made up of sprial links. Essentially the goal is to use the spiral links to capture the nail and chain.
I’m using the “ask for installation references at HD method.” I have double front doors; one is a dummy door unless you go through the time to unlock it from the floor and ceiling which is going to require new hardware because those slots, just like the ones on French doors, can be popped with a flat piece of metal in about 10 seconds and both your doors will swing open silently (seriously folks, if you didn’t know this, check it out. It will have you drilling screws before the video is over to protect your family for the night. th-cam.com/video/usm9k8Jyfgs/w-d-xo.html Currently I have a long 2x4 mounted across the inside of the doors because they open inward and only about 1/3 of the deadbolt will fit into the corresponding hole. We just moved in a few weeks ago and are still surprised the former sellers weren’t attacked in their sleep. My 3 yr old niece could push the door in. We also have these Defender flip locks th-cam.com/video/VTvm_XKeAZM/w-d-xo.html at 3 locations on the doors and would have the Nightlock Door Barricade th-cam.com/video/OYBngOjzOwI/w-d-xo.html floor slider ones (easily the best on the market) if the entryway wasn’t marble. Sorry this is a bit long, but I figure people wouldn’t be on a How to Install a Security Door video unless they were concerned with security. Best of luck in whatever you choose.
Thanks for sharing. I took a look at both video links provided. Interesting.
How is this a Security Door? All you have to do is unscrew the door from the house. Step #5 at 3:30 shows the door is simply fastened with #10 x 1 in. screws all the way around!
Very good point. The Grisham security door is designed with an equal amount of concealed screw holes that are non-accessible once the door is closed. At 5:50 we describe the concealed fastener application. Thank You,Grisham Bros.
Did you miss step #9?
Security door with 1 inch screws? 😂
Remember, take into consideration the interior concealed screws as well. It’s always advisable to secure the brickmold to the wall studs with some 3-1/2 screws. The door screws will hold the door in place as long as the brickmold mounting surface is secure. Thank you for your question.
How silly. I'm not buying this.