Zeddy, based off your "Chaos Creation" critique, maybe some time make a list of the most lopsided dual-class cards that are great in one class and horrible in the other.
@@taku.haze.cr7 I kinda love it but only because of Illidan's Twist deck that was extra large and let you copy & discount Chaos Creations. Outside of that, it feels bad to play.
this video literally sound like the devs saying "This is the power level we'd like the game to have but ooops we've been asked to sell packs so here's Zilliax 3000"
The problem with Hemet wasn't the quality of the beasts. Quite frequently you'd get a couple of collasals off of his effect. The problem was that your minions had to die, and if you're trading in aggro hunter, you're doing something wrong.
I didn't see Lab Patron played ONCE! It shouldve been the pick because I've at least seen Botface from discover and Dwarf Planet cast from random spell cast effects
Botface is one of those cards that could've been good years ago when decks didn't have so much free value that overdrawing is a way more real threat than running out of cards. Cardboard Golem being bad and ending up with nothing to redeem it later makes me sad, because I love the idea of an Aura deck that ramps up in power slowly by playing auras until each of your turns is strong enough to grind out your opponent through slow-paced, midrange power. I've been missing slow midrange decks in Hearthstone for forever.
I think "Botface could've been good earlier" is kind of a cope. Rotface, the original card it's a parody of, summoned full legendaries straight onto board in an era where the board was a lot prominent and was still hot ass. relying on an opponent to smack into the minion repeatedly just doesn't work. it certainly doesn't help that the majority of the minis are terrible cards in general.
I think we could’ve also mentioned some of the “tourists” being so bad that not even the value of giving you access to another classes cards raises their floor enough to make for being atrocious. Hunter, Rogue and Mage’s were so bad you hardly ever saw these hybrid decks with Gilly wears the crown as the shittiest tourist of them all Have a merry Christmas
Gilly unironically sees play these days with the Handbuff Hunter deck which isn't doing too bad. Both Gilly himself and his Tourist effect are working here (Since it's all about just handbuffing a minion that can hit multiple enemy minions with Always a Bigger Jormungarr to hit face for a billion damage). Raylla did see some play, with the focus being about her card directly rather than the Tourist effect. It's just it never really had enough support and then Mage was pushed into their much more powerful Elemental and later Big Spell decks. Maestra sucked though. Her only real use was giving a new hero to make Tess go crazy, which wasn't nearly consistent enough and only "Health" Drink was worth actually using from the Tourist mechanic.
Funny Botface story: Playing Demon Seed vs Shaman. Drop my 8/8 giant for free. Shaman casts Devolve. Giant becomes Botface. Gets hit. I get Shudder Mini from him... I'm 9 damage from Tamsin. Mini Shudder --> Flame Imp (x3 BC = 9 damage) --> Tamsin... he concedes. :D
I got legend this month playing bot warrior, I tried Botface but every single time it was better to not have him than to have him. If he was an 8 mana card (lower cost than zilliax) and did LITERALLY ANYTHING but filling your hand with useless trash, maybe he would be playable. In his current state I would hesitate summoning him for 7 mana.
Wow, some of these cards, .... exist? If it wasn't for the random 3-Cost minion you get out of the Hunter Secret, I wouldn't have though Dust Bunny was a card. It would have worked 10 years ago, because it enables combo cards, but now you can run specific Neutral cards that generate coins. Yeah, I really hope that they bring down the power level of Neutral cards, so we can have class identity really make some difference.
The quality for what you got off of Hemet is actually fairly high. There's all the colossals. You could luck out and get a 5 mana Janelai. 4 mana Swamp King Dread 3 mana Rat King 1 mana Dreadscale... The bigger problem is moreso that it demands beasts on board that die in a deck that'd rather just go face.
Every single card form this video would have been incredible value like 3 years ago! Every card would have seen some degree of play just 3 years ago... It's astonishing me looking at this card and calling them bad card... absolute insanity. Don't get me wrong I don't disagree but the real question isn't are this the worst card printed but should these card really feel THAT useless? Should these card really be this unplayably bad?
Helm of humiliation is one of those cards you'd never put in your deck (normally) but you arent unhappy if you had to discover/generate it somehow. I kbow its saved my butt a couple of times...
I really wish Botface gave you random minis of units that started in your deck. That would at least be useful and maybe even really cool in the right deck.
You're trying to run questline hunter IN THIS META?!?!? There's no way it's got a positive win-rate; all the needed face damage is gonna be too busy dealing with rogue/paladin minions, or by the time you get the quest going, the warlock is already dropping Tamsin
@@caseystafford6750 I dumpster my MMR so much I rarely face those... but if you wonder I did actually beat Pirate Rogue with questline hunter yesterday...
Eh... probably? Kind of comes down to RNGesus, I suppose. Where I think Sense Dep works is something like your opponent plays Yogg and hits his "all your guys beat each other up" ability to clear board. You play Sense Dep, and if you're not below 20, then you use your new Yogg's steal ability to take theirs. :D Chalk Artist really comes down to what you draw and what Legend it gets popped as. If I draw something with giant silly stats and it becomes like... Thassarian, with a 2 damage BC and DR, I'm like... well, OK... I guess. But you're right, there's SO many ways Chalk Artist could go wrong rather than right.
Zeddy, based off your "Chaos Creation" critique, maybe some time make a list of the most lopsided dual-class cards that are great in one class and horrible in the other.
I still hate this card to this day, burning your deck is baaaaad when playing mage
So... Pretty much every dual class card?
Very few dual class cards have actually been good in both classes.
Wand thief, devolving missles, lightning bloom, deafen, funnel cake. I could go on, but the point is, youre wrong@@tarille1043
@@taku.haze.cr7 I kinda love it but only because of Illidan's Twist deck that was extra large and let you copy & discount Chaos Creations. Outside of that, it feels bad to play.
@@tarille1043most dual class cards don’t see play at all
this video literally sound like the devs saying "This is the power level we'd like the game to have but ooops we've been asked to sell packs so here's Zilliax 3000"
The problem with Hemet wasn't the quality of the beasts. Quite frequently you'd get a couple of collasals off of his effect. The problem was that your minions had to die, and if you're trading in aggro hunter, you're doing something wrong.
Excuse me, may I ask for your help with something?
353k dust…. It never doesn’t amaze me
Same. I thought I had alot when I had over 20kdust when the set dropped, and then seeing Zeddys dust always reminds me how broke I am 😂😅
the dude can craft what you need for the rest of life :D
I didn't see Lab Patron played ONCE! It shouldve been the pick because I've at least seen Botface from discover and Dwarf Planet cast from random spell cast effects
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Botface is one of those cards that could've been good years ago when decks didn't have so much free value that overdrawing is a way more real threat than running out of cards. Cardboard Golem being bad and ending up with nothing to redeem it later makes me sad, because I love the idea of an Aura deck that ramps up in power slowly by playing auras until each of your turns is strong enough to grind out your opponent through slow-paced, midrange power. I've been missing slow midrange decks in Hearthstone for forever.
I think "Botface could've been good earlier" is kind of a cope. Rotface, the original card it's a parody of, summoned full legendaries straight onto board in an era where the board was a lot prominent and was still hot ass. relying on an opponent to smack into the minion repeatedly just doesn't work. it certainly doesn't help that the majority of the minis are terrible cards in general.
I think we could’ve also mentioned some of the “tourists” being so bad that not even the value of giving you access to another classes cards raises their floor enough to make for being atrocious.
Hunter, Rogue and Mage’s were so bad you hardly ever saw these hybrid decks with Gilly wears the crown as the shittiest tourist of them all
Have a merry Christmas
Raylla and maestra are great. Gilly himself is horrible though.
Gilly unironically sees play these days with the Handbuff Hunter deck which isn't doing too bad. Both Gilly himself and his Tourist effect are working here (Since it's all about just handbuffing a minion that can hit multiple enemy minions with Always a Bigger Jormungarr to hit face for a billion damage).
Raylla did see some play, with the focus being about her card directly rather than the Tourist effect. It's just it never really had enough support and then Mage was pushed into their much more powerful Elemental and later Big Spell decks.
Maestra sucked though. Her only real use was giving a new hero to make Tess go crazy, which wasn't nearly consistent enough and only "Health" Drink was worth actually using from the Tourist mechanic.
I've been paying a Draenei Crewmate Demon Hunter and man I'm hoping the mini set offers a finisher because it's really close to actually being a thing
Funny Botface story: Playing Demon Seed vs Shaman. Drop my 8/8 giant for free. Shaman casts Devolve. Giant becomes Botface. Gets hit. I get Shudder Mini from him...
I'm 9 damage from Tamsin. Mini Shudder --> Flame Imp (x3 BC = 9 damage) --> Tamsin... he concedes. :D
I got legend this month playing bot warrior, I tried Botface but every single time it was better to not have him than to have him. If he was an 8 mana card (lower cost than zilliax) and did LITERALLY ANYTHING but filling your hand with useless trash, maybe he would be playable. In his current state I would hesitate summoning him for 7 mana.
If crewmate had "draw a card/crewmate" it could be good/decent.
Wow, some of these cards, .... exist?
If it wasn't for the random 3-Cost minion you get out of the Hunter Secret, I wouldn't have though Dust Bunny was a card.
It would have worked 10 years ago, because it enables combo cards, but now you can run specific Neutral cards that generate coins.
Yeah, I really hope that they bring down the power level of Neutral cards, so we can have class identity really make some difference.
The quality for what you got off of Hemet is actually fairly high.
There's all the colossals.
You could luck out and get a 5 mana Janelai.
4 mana Swamp King Dread
3 mana Rat King
1 mana Dreadscale...
The bigger problem is moreso that it demands beasts on board that die in a deck that'd rather just go face.
Every single card form this video would have been incredible value like 3 years ago! Every card would have seen some degree of play just 3 years ago... It's astonishing me looking at this card and calling them bad card... absolute insanity. Don't get me wrong I don't disagree but the real question isn't are this the worst card printed but should these card really feel THAT useless? Should these card really be this unplayably bad?
Happy Holidays Zedman !
Helm of humiliation is one of those cards you'd never put in your deck (normally) but you arent unhappy if you had to discover/generate it somehow. I kbow its saved my butt a couple of times...
I really wish Botface gave you random minis of units that started in your deck. That would at least be useful and maybe even really cool in the right deck.
Thanks for providing some holiday cheer while I cook breakfast for my family
Rexxar gift is actually good in Questline hunter in wild, because it deals 3 damage and refreshes the hero power twice
You're trying to run questline hunter IN THIS META?!?!? There's no way it's got a positive win-rate; all the needed face damage is gonna be too busy dealing with rogue/paladin minions, or by the time you get the quest going, the warlock is already dropping Tamsin
@@caseystafford6750 I dumpster my MMR so much I rarely face those... but if you wonder I did actually beat Pirate Rogue with questline hunter yesterday...
Merry Christmass Zeddy 🎉🎉
Rexxars gift is really good in odd questline hunter but not close to being a tier 1 deck though lol.
Merry Xmas Zeddy
Merry Xmas Zeddy!!
Nah Helm of Humiliation is a goated card. Been climbing and having fun with triple blood and that card has saved me more times than I can count
Merry Christmas z-man 🎉
Does anybody know what happens to Twist after next week? Does it stay with another mode or will it get shut down again?
Marry Christmas Zeddy!
Hope you have a nice day Zedds
10 yr anniversary year turned out to be worst year for HS
Dusk bunny was broken with Sonya
"Druh'nigh?" It's Draenei. Dra like drag. I'm pretty sure there are a good dozen Hearthstone specific sounds that has the word "draenei" in it.
Merry Christmas!!!
Wish Dirdra was a playable card man
MarcMcKz Made a fun Deck "Mill DK" where Helm of Humiliation is Essential. But yeah outside of that the Card ist rly good
yeah i have to say.. 10 year anniversary? been PRETTY bad.
Chalk Artist is a worse card than Sensory Deprivation is it not?
Eh... probably? Kind of comes down to RNGesus, I suppose. Where I think Sense Dep works is something like your opponent plays Yogg and hits his "all your guys beat each other up" ability to clear board. You play Sense Dep, and if you're not below 20, then you use your new Yogg's steal ability to take theirs. :D
Chalk Artist really comes down to what you draw and what Legend it gets popped as. If I draw something with giant silly stats and it becomes like... Thassarian, with a 2 damage BC and DR, I'm like... well, OK... I guess. But you're right, there's SO many ways Chalk Artist could go wrong rather than right.
Merry Christmas
botface is good on arena btw
We are eating Canadian bacon for Xmas, or as we call it in Texas. Ham
Chaos Creation punished mage
*WHERE IS THAT PAINTERS VIRTUE NERF ALREADY? DEVS COMBINED TOTAL 50 IQ CONFIRMED?*
I crafted botface.
Awesome video !!
Merry Xmas
Hope the miniset is going to be busted
Hope 2025 is a bit better? With the floor so low I don't see how these next expansions could be as bad.
I opened my first great dark beyond legendary in literally the second pack i opened... and it was fucking uluu. Imagine my disappointment
and i crafted the druid legendary..😂😂
*WHERE IS THE ASTEROID SHAMAN NERF ALREADY THO? ALSO NERF INCINDIUS* (decrease his hp or something)
Worst dh card is snake eyes
I miss my ex this Christmas :(
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Chaos creation was sometimes ok in arena for lethal lol
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