This Game Is a Contradiction | ...Knew The Beginning Game Review

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  • @jokerngesund
    @jokerngesund ปีที่แล้ว +236

    Thanks for the Review. There was no real vision, more of a test within the engine. Trying stuff, having fun and with time realizing that this could become a full game. That might explain the lackluster riddles or clunky design choices. I didn't think that there would be enough content within ...Knew The Beginning to even get a review. While I am not the proudest of the game, it was fun making it and it keeps being fun seeing people react to it.
    There are no excuses for typos. That's just me.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Thanks for stopping by to say hello!
      We had a great experience playing through this game in a livestream. I'd be interested if you would ever create a larger project like this? Maybe continue the story?

    • @jokerngesund
      @jokerngesund ปีที่แล้ว +53

      ​@@Graeldon There are plans. Not the next game though. There are elements that could connect the next game to Knew The Beginning but that is up for interpretation. But that is not a conversation for the TH-cam comment section. I can't find any social media to your account but if there is, I could DM you a bit more info.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @jokerngesund sounds interesting! You'll have to let me know when the game releases!
      I don't use social media much, but you're welcome to add me on steam, or to jump into the Discord to DM me

    • @jokerngesund
      @jokerngesund ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@Graeldon Alright!

  • @sixthdragoness
    @sixthdragoness ปีที่แล้ว +324

    This feels like something you'd find on Newgrounds during the height of the flash era, I'm not sure if I mean this as a compliment or criticism? possibly both.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I definitely know what you mean!

    • @DustyHoney
      @DustyHoney 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Personally I’m not going to watch this review because of this. I need to play the game first

  • @Berny23
    @Berny23 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    As a German myself, this art style and humor reminds me a lot of the point and click adventure "Edna & Harvey: The Breakout", created by the German mastermind and founder of
    Daedalic Entertainment, Jan Müller-Michaelis ("Poki").
    And I'm 80 % sure, that the voice actors are the German voice actors speaking English.

    • @aglavraowl4932
      @aglavraowl4932 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yes, I think the developer took inspiration from Edna and Harvey, but went for darker and more absurdist vibe.

    • @ALE199-ita
      @ALE199-ita ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh! yeah that's what the game reminded me about!

    • @popculturegamer6464
      @popculturegamer6464 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't that company the one that made the Gollum Game this year?

    • @aglavraowl4932
      @aglavraowl4932 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@popculturegamer6464 yes , unfortunately. But as far as I remember , one of the founders left a couple of years before, and Daedalic got bought by some other game publisher. So the company wasn't the one we value for amazing point and click quests anyways.

    • @popculturegamer6464
      @popculturegamer6464 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aglavraowl4932 Well, it is what it is...

  • @zestysword
    @zestysword ปีที่แล้ว +88

    YOOOO IM THE PROTAGONIST LETS GOOOO

    • @taisato2091
      @taisato2091 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      How does it feel being a protagonist?

    • @zestysword
      @zestysword ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@taisato2091 feels like I’m moonwalking everywhere

  • @B0wser998
    @B0wser998 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I remember watching this live on stream and hearing the constant "dinging" in the background and thinking to myself "boy, this is going to be awful" but as the game progressed, I couldn't stop watching, because the story is so unusual it's actually very interesting. The broken english and stuff lost in translation is what makes it feel special. After couple of hours, I fell in love with the art style and even cared the characters. At the end, I even felt bad that the game was over and I wanted to see more, because I had soooo many questions, but no answers.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      There's just something about it that pulls you in. Morbid curiosity perhaps?

  • @heraditestreamingarchive1100
    @heraditestreamingarchive1100 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I feel like you're going to encounter a lot of absurd little games like this. After all, when you have very little budget, just going for absurdity is a good way to try to stand out while excusing some things that might be rougher around the edges (like you said maybe substituting complicated animations with live action stuff).

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      If I find more games like this, then I'll be very happy indeed

  • @winneratwin
    @winneratwin ปีที่แล้ว +19

    subtitle errors:
    13:29 missing not messing
    4:22 an entire unsaid paragraph
    6:29 unsaid now
    9:44 unnaturally long pause before the word cookie shows onscreen
    10:16 unsaid w
    10:33 "fisherman death scene" is probably for editing and is not said
    12:54 "Play clip" same as above

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thank you for catching those, I've updated the captions. I appreciate you taking the time to type those timestamps out!

  • @richmcgee434
    @richmcgee434 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Huh. The "neither trash nor treasure" category has been largely unoccupied up until now. So different in that respect as well.

  • @Neopolis3
    @Neopolis3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Truly fascinating and bizarre game. Love that this kind of thing gets highlighted.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's why I love making this series!

  • @iizepic9788
    @iizepic9788 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    For some strange reason the artstyle reminds me alot of games like don't starve, I think it's the way characters move and animated

  • @NintendoNun
    @NintendoNun ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Honestly, this game looks exactly the kind of game I think I'd absolutely adore - and without this series I'd have no clue it even exists!

  • @L1ncore
    @L1ncore ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Went to play this game last night when you scheduled the premier for this. I really did like it, but as a point n click fan it was also waaaaay too easy and barebones. I hope the dev ends up making other (hopefully more challenging) games in the future. The style and the vibe are just so charming to me.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Definitely barebones, but I think the point and click style was just there for the mechanics of telling the story, and to let you explore the environment.

  • @A.HollerMusic
    @A.HollerMusic ปีที่แล้ว +28

    14:21 Okay, why does Kloys look like Klaus Kinski? I'm pretty sure that's him. 😅
    For all of the non german folks here, Klaus Kinski was a german actor and pretty famous for beeing absolutely psychotic and narcistic. It was hell to work with him apparently. Also there are rumours that he abused his own daughter.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      it definitely could be a reference! There are many other tongue-in-cheek references throughout

    • @jokerngesund
      @jokerngesund ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It kinda is a reference. Yes

  • @breeckthon5144
    @breeckthon5144 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    As a German my self I know how hard it is to translate from German to Englisch. It’s so different in so many ways. I mean just the „The“ has three different versions in Englisch 😅

  • @twiexcursori
    @twiexcursori ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've heard more than a few times that apocalyptic fantasies are fundamentally power fantasies - and judging by the gang being named "the Survivors," I think this dev gets that.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Makes sense, it's essentially showing your superiority (strength) as a disaster survivor. If you survive, you must be superior to others that didn't. Assuming you take dumb luck out of the equation

    • @twiexcursori
      @twiexcursori ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Graeldon As I understood what they were saying, it's less about individual strength and more about the normal rules of society being suspended - either literal laws or more general social contract stuff. You can't (or aren't supposed to?) shoot people for pissing you off right now, but after the zombies or whatever, who's going to stop you? It's probably why hoarding guns seems to be a lower tier of 'doomsday prepper' than stocking up on food and water - the basic level of it is a fantasy about a world where might makes right more than it is a realistic assessment of a catastrophic scenario.
      This game appears to take the bold but compelling stance that if the world ends, maybe most people just take that as permission to be weird

  • @elvencataccess7830
    @elvencataccess7830 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This one... this is super cool. Obviously a super niche one for those with a surreal and/or morbid sense of humor, but definitely up my alley.

  • @annawanna5995
    @annawanna5995 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It'd be cool if there were separate endings for killing Kalle only and sparing the rest or for sparing just him and killing James & Kloys later

  • @tuwacroi
    @tuwacroi ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I actually liked this one, the art style was charming in a different way!

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It has a lot of personality, even if it's not exactly pretty

  • @nplt8263
    @nplt8263 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Lol, there were a bunch of MandaloreGaming references in the manager's office

  • @kevinmitk
    @kevinmitk ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Seeing this game gave me major early poki vibes (like Harveys new Eyes and Edna and Harvey: The breakout). The artstyle, kinda absurdist characters and scenarios and to an extend it being a click and point adventure all make me feel that the developer was (at least a bit) inspired by those games. To be honest, the video just made me nostalgic for those games :D
    Great video btw. I hope you continue your journey through steam for a long time

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks! There's definitely a nostalgic feel of a different era of gaming.
      The journey will continue for quite some time yet!

    • @Berny23
      @Berny23 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Especially the stains on the first screen look like Poki's Ketchup and Mustard stain designs from the first Harvey game.

    • @kevinmitk
      @kevinmitk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Berny23 I haven't notived it, but yeah, you are totally right

    • @jokerngesund
      @jokerngesund ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah. The Daedalic and especially Poki Adventures are a definite inspiration!

  • @ALE199-ita
    @ALE199-ita ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This was a good watch, thanks for bringing up the game, reminds me of a simmilar game, I think it was about a girl hunted by a demon and that had pills that could be used to change dimensions?
    Dinner Bone I think it was called
    Edit: it was FRAN Bow
    and even then I was remembering the wrong game, it wasn't fran bone but it was a game about some insane girl but I litterly forgot everything aside that it was about an insane girl and then she teleports somewhere where she solves clock puzzles and something something.
    Edit: it was Edna & Harvey: The Breakout the game I was thinking about. well better late then never

    • @richmcgee434
      @richmcgee434 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One of the better games out there dealing with trauma and mental health issues.

    • @ALE199-ita
      @ALE199-ita ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richmcgee434 Just remembered it reminded me of Edna & Harvey: The Breakout

  • @mattwcook9127
    @mattwcook9127 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was kinda hoping you'd notice that David Lynch was chilling at the coffee shop

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks, I honestly didn't know who that was meant to be! I'm not good with celebrities

    • @mattwcook9127
      @mattwcook9127 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey, no worries! I'm a massive Lynch fan, so I spotted him right away (plus, it kinda makes sense that the devs were influenced by his work, lol)

    • @jokerngesund
      @jokerngesund ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mattwcook9127 yup, they were

  • @Highretrogamelord
    @Highretrogamelord 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yup, definitely gives me Daedalic vibes...well, pre-Gollum Daedalic.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We don't dare speak the name of that game.

    • @Highretrogamelord
      @Highretrogamelord 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Graeldon S-sorry!!!

  • @wafffls
    @wafffls ปีที่แล้ว +2

    excellent review as always! this game seems fascinating, and it’s such a treat to learn about things i would otherwise never discover. i also wanna appreciate the background music choices throughout the video. perfectly sets the mood without distracting from the review itself. thanks for another great youtube vid

  • @DanteSparda-o5v
    @DanteSparda-o5v ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The only channel I turn my add blocker off for, Love your series man keep it up!

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I appreciate that! I'm glad you're enjoying the series!

  • @ahhhhyes
    @ahhhhyes ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love ugly/gritty artistry like this. Great game with a few hiccups

  • @erikcalixto5018
    @erikcalixto5018 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The "Wait, I know you" is from skyrim, the guards say it when you got a bounty on you. same thing with "What happened to this guy".

  • @ezdispenser
    @ezdispenser หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i'm definitely checking this out, it seems like a nice short point and click that i can have fun with :3 i like when a lot of objects are interactable in games, even (and especially) unimportant ones

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you end up enjoying it, they've actually released a new game in a similar style!

  • @AkorBestoff
    @AkorBestoff ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Ok im sorry you Mentiont Germany im Forced to do it xD:
    Dieses Video ist nun Teil der Bundesrepublik Deutschland!

    • @Zero_de_Nova
      @Zero_de_Nova ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So wahr! =)

    • @Berny23
      @Berny23 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Richtig und wichtig!

  • @MegaHellstrike
    @MegaHellstrike ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As an Austrian I can confirm that the German voice acting is just Germans doing english voice acting without forcing on a fake accent. Germans have some of the thickest and easily recognizable accents in their english, when I got into online gaming and got sick of Germans talking German with me I started developing an accent that fluctuates between british, New Yorker and cowboy to throw them off my scent,

  • @frostare
    @frostare ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I... probably shouldn't have laughed as much as I did at 6:30 but whatever, man. =P Another impressive review, thanks!

  • @yourhighschoolenglishteach8405
    @yourhighschoolenglishteach8405 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    5:54 if he was able to switch directions, the devs would need to draw a second set of walking sprites.

  • @the_clover_star
    @the_clover_star ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Im sorry, but..
    *WEESKI*-

  • @Busterdrag
    @Busterdrag ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ...WHY DOES THE MANAGER HAVE MANDALOREGAMING'S HELMET?

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suspect the dev is a fan!

  • @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear
    @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the video :)

  • @klank9409
    @klank9409 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    just caught up and ive gotta say this game seems rad

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      welcome back Klank!

  • @superduperdrew12345
    @superduperdrew12345 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The shopkeeper sounds like Moroder talking about the Moog Modular

  • @yesnutches
    @yesnutches ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this game reminds me a lot of the inner world also german dev!

  • @MegaKBang
    @MegaKBang ปีที่แล้ว

    This reminds me of the old Spongebob Movie Game on PC. Gives me similar vibes.

  • @thedemonspawn8289
    @thedemonspawn8289 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is James and the other two guys a top gear reference

    • @jokerngesund
      @jokerngesund ปีที่แล้ว

      It wasn't intentional but now that I see it. Could be.

  • @melisalongfellow7289
    @melisalongfellow7289 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing ✊🏽 🏆🙂🙏🏼

  • @solouno2280
    @solouno2280 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The voice acting is. Dingo pictures again

  • @CainXVII
    @CainXVII 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The barkeeper doesn't get the privilege of being Larry?

  • @budderk1305
    @budderk1305 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    your rating system is a Josh Strife Hayes reference, isn't it? Not that it's a bad thing

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes and no - I've definitely been inspired and influenced by his style, but I actually saw ProJared rate games this way first, way back when he reviewed Chrono Trigger

  • @bobabobavich9110
    @bobabobavich9110 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The art style reminds me of sally face

  • @MiningJack777
    @MiningJack777 ปีที่แล้ว

    The voice actor kinda sounds like Simon from cry of fear

  • @Michigan-4632hoggan
    @Michigan-4632hoggan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FOR THE ALGORITHM!

  • @frixyg2050
    @frixyg2050 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gonzy? Like.. *that* Gonzy?

  • @notquitenil
    @notquitenil ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I might ask, what was the song you used during the "Verdict" section at the end there? It's surprisingly evocative.

    • @taisato2091
      @taisato2091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Give me a second i will check the name when my gf gives me my pc back

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi there! It was "A Cold Wind" by Savvun. You can find it on Epidemic Sound - it's not part of the game's original soundtrack

    • @taisato2091
      @taisato2091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh thanbk u i forgor @@Graeldon

  • @geekjokes8458
    @geekjokes8458 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    _wheeeesky_

  • @ShinoSarna
    @ShinoSarna ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So this is the first good game you found in this series, then?

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not quite! If you check the spreadsheet, you'll see that I've found 11 good games so far. The first was "LIFE" Not Found;

    • @ShinoSarna
      @ShinoSarna ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Graeldon Nice! I will check it out

    • @taisato2091
      @taisato2091 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ShinoSarnaLife not found is free, so i suggest checking it out on steam first

  • @lapinte8136
    @lapinte8136 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    for the algorithm

  • @lithuanianhound
    @lithuanianhound ปีที่แล้ว +3

    egg

    • @LicencetoMeme
      @LicencetoMeme ปีที่แล้ว

      Stop turning people into-

    • @taisato2091
      @taisato2091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello do you speak cake

  • @stalebread7116
    @stalebread7116 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Day 8 of waiting for Celeste

    • @taisato2091
      @taisato2091 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In theory Celeste could be played before we even reach the letter "C" if it's chosen by the community to be played during stream

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Welcome back lol

  • @jamic6107
    @jamic6107 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Was it really necessary to spend almost 20mn to tell us the whole story?

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @jamic6107 yes.

  • @mistermist634
    @mistermist634 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dialogue and voice-acting are inexcusable. I am German myself and I have to say: C'mon guys, we can do better

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 ปีที่แล้ว

    This isn’t a cancelled Daedelic game though? The title makes no sense whatsoever.

  • @szymps
    @szymps ปีที่แล้ว

    Stop calling one person "they". There's always only one person.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      While traditionally "they" would indicate a group, grammatical rules have changed and "they" is now acceptable to use when referring to a single person. Usually to describe a person of unknown gender, but not always - it can also be used when gender is irrelevant

  • @popculturegamer6464
    @popculturegamer6464 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey, dude, you're the best. I hope I can get you friended on Steam! I'll even gift you some hidden gems!

    • @lukecwolf
      @lukecwolf ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would really love to make a mutual fund for the steam funds

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll keep an eye out for a Steam invitation!

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funds from channel memberships and donations go towards new games for the channel =)

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@popculturegamer6464 I'm Graeldon on Steam, easy enough to find haha

  • @sheepsause
    @sheepsause ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh man I wonder how you'll react to the Deponia series since this game reminds me of that series a ton

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I look forward to reviewing them! In about 50 years though haha

  • @stalebread7116
    @stalebread7116 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Day 11 of waiting for Celeste

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How high are you prepared to count? The letter A is around 5000 days away...

    • @stalebread7116
      @stalebread7116 ปีที่แล้ว

      As high as it takes

  • @stalebread7116
    @stalebread7116 ปีที่แล้ว

    Day 12 of waiting for Celeste

  • @stalebread7116
    @stalebread7116 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Day 9 of waiting for Celeste

  • @stalebread7116
    @stalebread7116 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Day 10 of waiting for Celeste

  • @stalebread7116
    @stalebread7116 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Day 13 of waiting for Celeste