Well the Chinese one was more comfortable probably cuz the suspension shattered upon impact meanwhile the relatively ancient rolls Royce will most likely do that all day and not break a sweat
Moreso, Bentley has stiffer suspension because it's a performance luxury car... Bentley used to be performance version of Rolls Royce. Stiffer suspension resulted into that glass cup vibration. Do 100mph and corner with that hongqi and let's see if it remains on the road
Bentley has stiffer suspension because it's a performance luxury car... Bentley used to be performance version of Rolls Royce. Stiffer suspension resulted into that glass cup vibration. Do 100mph and corner with that hongqi and let's see if it remains on the road.
@@paulzhang5038 if you want a fair comparison, compare it with the car currently on sale. Not some 10-yr old museum piece. The Hongqi is being described as "Next-gen". So it's fair to compare them with the next-gen Bentley and Rolls Royce. It's not cope, my friend. It's plain-old common sense.
Let's be honest, the new version of these luxury car aren't much better, they don't use a much better technology the only reason the chinese did so well be becaude they use some bought patented technology. But the other aspects of the car aren't that good
Besides, whenever you feel that Chinese car is not comfortable anymore due to wear and tear, you can simply buy another and repeat for 7 times for the price of a Rolls Royce.
Anyone who has a basic understanding of the physics of the spring-damper system, and specifically its natural resonance frequency, understands how this type of test can easily be rigged to show anything you want: just match the vehicle speed and bumps distance to either hit or avoid the resonance frequency of your suspension setup and voila !
You should google the price tags of used 15 to 20 year old Bentleys and Rolls Royces like the ones in this video before humiliating yourself with stupid replies like this 😂
you can easy rig test like this just with tyre pressures, yet alone adjusting where any hidden weight is, to upset the front vs. rear suspension rate. I do like the part at ~34sec showing that after the "test" Hongqi had MORE water above the red line after the test than before the test, if we are to take images of the glass's at face value.
It wasn't simply hydraulic, it was hydropneumatic and so good that Rolls-Royce licenced it, the Xantia Activa who had the last "true" hydropneumatic suspension still holds the record for the fastest moose test with 85 kph to this day, beating much newer Porsches, McLarens and other high performance cars.
No one is talking about how the weight of these vehicles are as important as the suspension setup, eating of the 'energy' of the bumps reducing the vibrations.
@@kafiluz4317 You didn't understand what I meant. The ''energy' of the bumps is always handled differently by a heavy slung car compared to a lighter vehicle. If you punch a skinny person and if you punch the same punch to a fat/bulky person, it'll do different amounts of perceived pressure on each. You get the drift?
Живешь прошлыми стереотипами, но время идет, все меняется. Гавно сегодня все европейское, а китайцы вырываются вперед. За Европой остается лишь надутый пиаром престиж и соответствующе надутый ценник, больше ничего.
The market is the place that decides who wins and who loses. Would you rather sit in a Hongqi instead of a Rolls or Bentley? Even Chinese people will choose Rolls or Bentley over Hongqi.
Not for too long. Theres are reasons, why German companies start having huge problems in the Chinese market. This video is one of them. Also the actual know how in cars was the combustion engine. With e-mobility beeing pushed, this advantage is gone.
Passing this test is possibly pointless anyway. Depending on what you want in your ride. A tighter suspension will perform better at speed and agility, but worse at keeping water in your glass when driving over speedbumps. My mom's old Buick century would've aced this test.
I promise you they’ve faked the suspension tests for this red flag They are NEVER going to catch up or be safe as a luxury vehicle with Audi/Volkswagen Group or BMW Group parts
A really confidence-inspiring test. The cars drive on an uneven surface and the camera captures the action of the suspension of some random cars. Then Bentley comes and very reliably we can be sure that the platform or something else has not been manipulated. All facts. Such videos are great!
Just check your hand held device backside if its made by China then don't use your Iphone & any computer devices or any things made by China if you don't like it except if you are belongs from filthy rich families ...... China Made things so we poor people can buy things in the 3rd world.... otherwise EU made or USA made things we can't afford...
No, it won't, because Rolls Royce actually licensed the hydropneumatic suspension from Citroen. A Citroen and a Rolls Royce basically have the save suspension technology. The difference is the Citroen is actually a good deal for the money.
Does a place exist? It surely ain't the USA because here you can fill a large library with just the amount of laws we have and when it come to choosing leaders, we only get to choose their red choice or their blue choice.
And how many Chinese inventions where copied, nowadays they are just doing what the west have done to them. Only one difference since historically speaking chineses don’t coerce foreign nations into bad trades.
There is a reason why rolls royce and bentley doesn't do it that way. Main reason is that in this way if a road has bumps then most people would still keep on speeding which defeats the purpose of bumps. But the other reason is that it kills driver engagement. So if an old person (people who usually buys rolls royces) drives over a road with potholes he wouldn't know about the damage he's causing to his car until he gets the feels in the steering.
Bose created electromatic suspension in 1980 😂. Legit 40 years ago, it could jump over stuff too. Look up a video of it, it functioned identically to this. It was a comercial failure due to the increased price and weight it added to the vehicle.
I add more, even I don't believe this video is true, we never known behind the scene, I am sure, the video makers shaking the glass when Rolls crossed the speed bump, or any effect. And then other option, they change the suspension and shock absorber systems in Rolls, we know China with communism system is good in making promotion. On the other hand, western products and Japanese products promoting their brands on public consumption without making fool videos
So basically because the Chinese can steal patent material from multiple car manufacturers and take all of their best bits and put it together and then call it their own
Commenter here full of wisdom. Instead of comparing price, they compare age technology and willingly pay high price for such antic technology, very smart peoples.
People highly regard a Rolls Royce or a Bentley, just because it is a Rolls Royce or a Bentley, not because its suspension system. The best suspension system for the purpose in the video is the old Citroen's CX
Compare a new car to a 16 years old Bentley, seem fair
Compare rates also. And where they say it's 16 years old??
@@MrAmitkr007because some of us know cars and can actually tell what year something is based on design?
Well the Chinese one was more comfortable probably cuz the suspension shattered upon impact meanwhile the relatively ancient rolls Royce will most likely do that all day and not break a sweat
Yes it's not fair it should be compared with at least a 30 year old rolls Royce
Moreso, Bentley has stiffer suspension because it's a performance luxury car... Bentley used to be performance version of Rolls Royce. Stiffer suspension resulted into that glass cup vibration.
Do 100mph and corner with that hongqi and let's see if it remains on the road
Chinese propaganda
Oy vey
@@nick-sw3inwhat?
Cry harder
Hahaha you are so brainwashed it's pathetic
can you cope harder?
Bentley has stiffer suspension because it's a performance luxury car... Bentley used to be performance version of Rolls Royce. Stiffer suspension resulted into that glass cup vibration.
Do 100mph and corner with that hongqi and let's see if it remains on the road.
stop making excuses
Junk is junk
chinese cheap ass garbage car
I've driven a Bentley and would trust that over any Chinese car.
@@HowDidIGet3700Subs Its not an excuse, Bentleys are set up differently to allow for a slightly more sporty ride
Old Bentley, old Rolls Royce
they realy want's us to trust on some copycat chinese shady car brand is better then Rolls Royce & Bentley
@@ANY_WORLD4 whatever they do, its just china.
keep coping, the bentley and royce in used values are still worth way more than the Chinese car's MSRP. Thats cost-efficiency right there.
@@paulzhang5038 if you want a fair comparison, compare it with the car currently on sale. Not some 10-yr old museum piece.
The Hongqi is being described as "Next-gen". So it's fair to compare them with the next-gen Bentley and Rolls Royce.
It's not cope, my friend. It's plain-old common sense.
Right = BULLSHIT.
2 old Cars with 100K of Mileage vs. New chinese Car...You made my day ..
Rolls-Royce with 100k miles? Lol never seen one, usually they’re just collecting dust in some millionaire’s garage!
😂🤣🙌🏿 I was waiting for a Factory New Maybach S680 side by side comparison
Let's be honest, the new version of these luxury car aren't much better, they don't use a much better technology the only reason the chinese did so well be becaude they use some bought patented technology. But the other aspects of the car aren't that good
Besides, whenever you feel that Chinese car is not comfortable anymore due to wear and tear, you can simply buy another and repeat for 7 times for the price of a Rolls Royce.
oh cut the crap are you the same guy dissing china made products?!
Does it need a VPN for Carplay?😂
LOLLLLLL
😂
Why CarPlay? Outdated…
you are out dated just like your rols Roys
Lol
Anyone who has a basic understanding of the physics of the spring-damper system, and specifically its natural resonance frequency, understands how this type of test can easily be rigged to show anything you want: just match the vehicle speed and bumps distance to either hit or avoid the resonance frequency of your suspension setup and voila !
你的意思是宾利连基本的物理原理都不了解，哈哈，像你这样的大聪明应该去宾利帮助它们，可惜人家不要你，哈哈
You are trying very hard to convince ,that's why you copy paste the same comments several times.That new reality is hurting you very much.🤣🤣🤣
@@roberts2697
I’m trying hard for people like you who don’t understand science and resort to childish personal attacks instead…
@roberts2697 Chinese cars are not good
sour grape
Reality is Honqi is more expensive than this 20 years old Bentley and Rolls. Compare with Culinan and we will see.
Are you idiots !?😂😂😂😂😂
And bentayga
I was thinking more like Spectre. Electric, so weight of battery will affect the body movement aswell.
At least google the price tag before you make a misleading comment
You should google the price tags of used 15 to 20 year old Bentleys and Rolls Royces like the ones in this video before humiliating yourself with stupid replies like this 😂
does it come with a 60 day warranty?
you can easy rig test like this just with tyre pressures, yet alone adjusting where any hidden weight is, to upset the front vs. rear suspension rate.
I do like the part at ~34sec showing that after the "test" Hongqi had MORE water above the red line after the test than before the test, if we are to take images of the glass's at face value.
citroen made a hydraulic suspension 40, 50 years ago
will the chinese succeed in the long term ?
I was just thinking that! I remember seeing one in Italy and thought it was the future.
Yes, they will, because Citroen retired the technology. Absolute idiots. They pretty much destroyed the only significant reason to buy a Citroen.
It wasn't simply hydraulic, it was hydropneumatic and so good that Rolls-Royce licenced it, the Xantia Activa who had the last "true" hydropneumatic suspension still holds the record for the fastest moose test with 85 kph to this day, beating much newer Porsches, McLarens and other high performance cars.
Such a racist
No knows. I wonder why everyone focus on where it’s made
No one is talking about how the weight of these vehicles are as important as the suspension setup, eating of the 'energy' of the bumps reducing the vibrations.
Because energy is nothing important for a luxury car?
@@kafiluz4317 You didn't understand what I meant.
The ''energy' of the bumps is always handled differently by a heavy slung car compared to a lighter vehicle.
If you punch a skinny person and if you punch the same punch to a fat/bulky person, it'll do different amounts of perceived pressure on each.
You get the drift?
@@kafiluz4317idiot
@@KenanTurkiyethe word you’re looking for is inertia
@@anguswetty Thank you Angus, much appreciated. Have a great day!
Сравните это китайкое гавно с новыми Бентли и Роллс Ройс 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Это норм апарат почему говно ? У ттебя какая модель была ?
@@youknowmyname3763
А тебя такая модель была? Дай угадаю: ты владелец чери тиго? Ну как покушал кетайского гovна?))
@@youknowmyname3763 Лада 2101😂😂😂😂
Живешь прошлыми стереотипами, но время идет, все меняется. Гавно сегодня все европейское, а китайцы вырываются вперед.
За Европой остается лишь надутый пиаром престиж и соответствующе надутый ценник, больше ничего.
@@dedosatakatrue that, I have owned 10+ European cars. Bought a NIO es8 in 2021, loved it.
This video is a joke.
Accept the fact, MG is chinese car as well
Comparing it to a 20 year old Rolls Royce?
Лжеш, докажи что это 20 летний Бентли!
The market is the place that decides who wins and who loses. Would you rather sit in a Hongqi instead of a Rolls or Bentley? Even Chinese people will choose Rolls or Bentley over Hongqi.
I will choose hongqi, underrated brand
Not for too long. Theres are reasons, why German companies start having huge problems in the Chinese market. This video is one of them. Also the actual know how in cars was the combustion engine. With e-mobility beeing pushed, this advantage is gone.
I'll prefer hongqi over RR. It's just a matter of time when they will become equally worthy in general public view. Wait and watch
@@ProAvgeek6328Not underrated, just cheap to buy.
What's kind of comparison is this ?. You have to try with new Cullinan and bentayga
Passing this test is possibly pointless anyway.
Depending on what you want in your ride.
A tighter suspension will perform better at speed and agility, but worse at keeping water in your glass when driving over speedbumps.
My mom's old Buick century would've aced this test.
Why didn't you compare Hongqi with 70's Rolls and Bentleys ? 😂
Comfy suspension is nothing that has been invented in the last 10 years.
@@Rahmatttablemaybe russian but not chinese.
@@devilslayerthesaintofkille1317US fakes moon landing in Hollywood because Russia could go to space
@@devilslayerthesaintofkille1317 Well, on ROI analysis, Chinese proudcts definitely surpass European ones.
Just another knock off, that's what the Chinese are experts in.
It is an Cadillac Escalade competitor, not a Rolls Royce competitor.
This type of propaganda does not fool anyone anymore.
Accept the fact
@@Rahmatttable Does it fool you?
@@pareotrem no, it's fact
@@pareotrem it did fool him
@@theplayer12312 😂
“Car that’s costs 8 times cheaper” a older phantom is cheaper then that Chinese toy
no its not, go home troll
Chinese propaganda with old Rolls Royce and Bentley 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Accept the fact
@@Rahmatttable What 'fact' . . . ?
@@Rahmatttable That Honqi is barely any better than 15-20 year old cars?
A car that was basically a BMW X7 clone. Can't the Chinese build anything significant without copying other manufacturers designs?
Clapped out old Bentley and old rolls probably needs new struts😂.why not compare to cullinan and bentayga?
They don't have the balls to do so...
china likes to lie about a lot of things so you can't really trust them.
Бентайга👎
Citroën with hydropneumatic suspensión:'Hold my wine!'
Please test Citroen SM from 1970!
Nah they never can't beat Citroen suspension 😂
@@GigachadPKI Someone needs to do that outside of China because it won't be happening in China.
I promise you they’ve faked the suspension tests for this red flag
They are NEVER going to catch up or be safe as a luxury vehicle with Audi/Volkswagen Group or BMW Group parts
How long the chinese car be alive? One year? There are no spare parts on it. It is disposable carriage
Have you even seen one in person? Stereotype thinking doesn’t make you better dude
A really confidence-inspiring test. The cars drive on an uneven surface and the camera captures the action of the suspension of some random cars. Then Bentley comes and very reliably we can be sure that the platform or something else has not been manipulated. All facts. Such videos are great!
Remember, it's still made in China
Just check your hand held device backside if its made by China then don't use your Iphone & any computer devices or any things made by China if you don't like it except if you are belongs from filthy rich families ...... China Made things so we poor people can buy things in the 3rd world.... otherwise EU made or USA made things we can't afford...
What about Lada Largus?
Стоит как нормальная тачка, отстала от жизни при этом лет на двадцать
Honestly this made me respect the old Rolls Royce even more. That car was made by craftsmen who have great dedication to what they do. I want one!
That rolls looked a lot more smooth, the water barely stayed in on the first car. More of a perfect speed for the water to slosh
A much cheaper and older Citroën will beat all of these.
No, it won't, because Rolls Royce actually licensed the hydropneumatic suspension from Citroen. A Citroen and a Rolls Royce basically have the save suspension technology. The difference is the Citroen is actually a good deal for the money.
what model ?
Yea how’s the sales going…😂 😂
Now I want to see if it lasts a lot of time like the bentley and Rolls Royce suspension
Well, but it is also made in China...Lol 😂😂
Like the joke Vinfast made in America?
I prefer my cars made by people who live in freedom and democracy
Me too👋🏼👊🏼👍🏼
As a chinese me too.
But Germany is vassal state of usa since 1945
you mean china
Does a place exist? It surely ain't the USA because here you can fill a large library with just the amount of laws we have and when it come to choosing leaders, we only get to choose their red choice or their blue choice.
Stupid comparison
Chy na propaganda.
Accept the fact
Please show how stable the car are when cornering 😀
Next video comparing a VW from the 50’s to the revolutionary cheap luxury cars from PRC.
Why don't you go and check the Citroen DS..BYD is using the suspension created by Citroen back in the 50s.
"Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar"
cant change the fact that it is made in chana. Steal and copy technology from all over the world😂😂.
And how many Chinese inventions where copied, nowadays they are just doing what the west have done to them. Only one difference since historically speaking chineses don’t coerce foreign nations into bad trades.
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Notice how the year old RR and Bentley still run til this day and look new
"to go on 3 wheels" LOL really need that 🤣
What about reliability durability and build quality.
You “forgot” to mention china electric cars on fire and car graveyards 😅
Tesla leads in catching fire.....brain lead?
Shock absorbers are only needed on a rolls Royce when receiving the mechanics’ bill
There is a reason why rolls royce and bentley doesn't do it that way. Main reason is that in this way if a road has bumps then most people would still keep on speeding which defeats the purpose of bumps. But the other reason is that it kills driver engagement. So if an old person (people who usually buys rolls royces) drives over a road with potholes he wouldn't know about the damage he's causing to his car until he gets the feels in the steering.
Я подробно рассматривал эту китайскую поделку. Ей до роллс-ройса как до луны!
Не ужн рядом я посмотрел
Спустя 200 000 пробега те же машины посмотрим) если китайцы доживут))
Y’all forgot to put it up against a Mercury Grand Marquis
whats the name of the instrumental please?
The rolls glass remained bubble-free...
Bentley continental is made for handling also, but mainly high speed stability.
How long it will be so good?
5 months
race to repair shop haha
I don't give a Fuck; i Love Rolls Royce and Bentley Regardless of the Year Product.
Dont making excuse
Id like to see Goodwood test the Rolls-Royce.. as in a test not conducted in China.
Bose created electromatic suspension in 1980 😂. Legit 40 years ago, it could jump over stuff too. Look up a video of it, it functioned identically to this. It was a comercial failure due to the increased price and weight it added to the vehicle.
don't be fooled by these videos... china brand cars are not reliable and easily break down and their aftersales department is sht.
are u sure?
better to look after your mom verginal hole. It is truly unreliable
I add more, even I don't believe this video is true, we never known behind the scene, I am sure, the video makers shaking the glass when Rolls crossed the speed bump, or any effect. And then other option, they change the suspension and shock absorber systems in Rolls, we know China with communism system is good in making promotion. On the other hand, western products and Japanese products promoting their brands on public consumption without making fool videos
So basically because the Chinese can steal patent material from multiple car manufacturers and take all of their best bits and put it together and then call it their own
NIO Capital invest for US startup Clearmotion and secure order for million.
Seems like you got it! Yep, that’s how lots of Chinese things work.
It takes years to build brand value. Do not expect to take a good place by copying. Car looks nice.🎉
Commenter here full of wisdom. Instead of comparing price, they compare age technology and willingly pay high price for such antic technology, very smart peoples.
China is a country where everything is manipulated....political, economy, manufacturing ...etc...
ومع ذلك ستشتري الناس البنتلي والرولز
Just in your country 😂
What matters is the technology used and not which country is made
😂😂😂 omg thats a prefacelift rolls. That version stopped production in 2012 so the newest version is still 12 years old.
А почему вода в китайском автомобиле с пузырями, она загазировалась от встряски?😄
No thanks😂
Compare it with active aur suspension of Maybach GLS 600 and Rolls Royce spectre/Cullinan
Then we'll talk
Chinese ad efficiency 100%
Chinese product efficiency 0.1%
Accept the fact
Copied version can't better than the original 😂
Technically copies can be better but not when u have cut every single corner until it doesn't have a corner
Chinese product have already proven themselves to not last, they look good at first but not for the longer run
🐸🐸🐸
One side last long or even a few generations.
The other side lasts a few miles and will self destruct for you to buy a new one. 😂
Wenn man die aktive Federung beim Bentley deaktiviert kann das schon so aussehen. Ist diese aktiviert schwebt er über die Bodenwellen.
Maybe I believe this video "but" Chinese are excellent of making fakes 😂. Tell me what kind of products Chinese are credible 😅.
Does not matter how much you cry. Its chinese🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cry more eating your bland food 😂
This is the so-called "Italy road suspension test"
The question is how long will it last vs the actual Rolls Royce? I know it is much cheaper and it works fine as brand new...
Sponsored by…
Why buy a Chinese car? Are you crazy?
... And the lifespan of the cars???
Both cars were old and the Bentley was also a gt/sports car
Roll Royce are jealous 😅😅😅
But Hongqi is way better compared to the price
Those suspensions can be changed with just a few buttons right right? I think the Bentley looked way more stiff...
Bcs it was supposed to be a sport luxury, not super luxury
Did they copy the Cadillac Escalade EQ?
Chinese suv is better than rr
lol! is not like ppl drive around only on speedy dumps lined up like that irl!
Well , in west everything costs an arm and a leg more without that necessarily representing better quality products
Okey, now compare it to a Citroën C6 for example and see the difference. 😆👌
Compare the Aurus (Russian luxury) please.
At least you got extra 2-3 sales worldwide from this video however the ceo at Bentley or Rolls still smiling 😊
Hongqi after - even more, than before! That's completely another level!
I suppose because the chinese one uses air suspension? I wonder where are those electro magnetic susp goes
Apples to cucumbers. Unlike the Roller, the Bentley is a sporty coupe with a stiff suspension that's tuned for handling.
But who only has a 30 day warranty? 😂
People highly regard a Rolls Royce or a Bentley, just because it is a Rolls Royce or a Bentley, not because its suspension system. The best suspension system for the purpose in the video is the old Citroen's CX
Na shoppi tem um igualzinho! Quero ver quando faltar uma peça! A dor de cabeça
0:12 it actually started clappin real hard
Does it have dangerous chemicals and lead in it like their food?