Section 2923 Ohio codes: (4) (b) The person leaves the handgun in a motor vehicle. (c) The handgun does not leave the motor vehicle. (d) If the person exits the motor vehicle, the person locks the motor vehicle.....from what I seen he kept the gun in vehicle and locked....so under Ohio code 2923 4b...he might not have violated the law?
@@TKxDemon prolly just ain’t get caught with it dis dude bruh was caught if he didn’t nobody would knew he had a rifle in his park car on skool property lmao
The police should know the laws too but they don't. They need to be punished every time they falsely arrest someone. They need to serve the same amount of time as their victim.
@@Shade_Tree_Mechanic so you agree felons should own guns too? I mean if you honestly think all gun laws are infringement then you agree felons should be able to own guns right?
Yikes. The teacher mocking him for being an 18yr old junior and laughing saying "those are usually the ones who bring guns to school". Absolutely disgusting. Teachers like him are the ones who have failed him.
Especially since they knew he was on a 504 plan! I have autistic twins who were on IEP’s and teachers & staff like that are disgusting! The worst issue we ever had was actually with a special needs teacher who was the head of the special needs department!! We never had a problem with students picking on them or teasing them, only that disgusting teacher! And making fun of them isn’t even the worst problem we had with her!
Well the teacher was right. Those are the students who tend to bring guns to school like he did. It's just to show off and they are just trying to be cool.
@@lizaltman1200 The kid is afraid, and for good reason. You have no idea what it is like to be in school today. Kids these days have to worry about being shot while they are trying to get an education. Of course the older kids are going to think about that and worry about how to protect themselves. The law doesn't do enough to protect them, so this is what it is coming to. You should be ashamed for judging this young man just for trying to stay safe. He was very respectful, honest, and cooperative. He is not "unhinged".
Disagree. Yes, good cops do go out of their way which is wonderful, however, this kid is completely clueless. There was no need to keep going back and forth
the officer explaining the arrest to the suspect did a great job treating the kid with respect and not showing bias against him regardless of the circumstances.
My Grandfather used to tell me about how when he was a teen, all the boys would bring their hunting rifles to school to show off in the parking lot and go shooting after school. That being said, the world we lived in has changed and the threat of violence is very real.
High school in the late 90s that gangsters always had guns. Shootings just never happened at school really, just parties and stuff but people went to school with guns. Pre Columbine
My 5th grade teacher complained to us how back in his day all the kids carried pocket knives. Now it’s crazy how much trouble they would get in. Told us he is fine with it, but be careful not to let other teachers catch you with one.
That was before marxist-communists began taking over. They bring all the chaos, offer the solution (just like this cop naively implies, "YOU have no right to self-defense, only the state does") which is always to disarm the people and convince them that slavery is freedom, war is peace, enemies are all around so give the state total control "for your security and safety", etc.
The teacher making that smug joke about the kid being an 18 yr old junior just shows you how screwed the entire public school system is in this country today.
@@zazasnruntz7505 did you understand the comment that the man made? he said “those are usually the ones that bring them”. it does go to show public schools are broken. most teachers don’t actually care about their students, the guy is a prime example. you dont know why this kid is 18 and a junior. you dont know his situation, so to say he’s not smart is just rude. you stating its not the teachers fault well he is a teacher so it kinda is his fault in some way why his students aren’t keeping up..
@@zazasnruntz7505 You have no insight on how much effort this guy puts into his education. He has a learning disability. Outside of his control. Also being "smart" is not going to remediate this issue and teachers should never make judgment's or generalizations like that as a joke.
I was held back in school. So I was an 18 yo Jr, so are lots of kids. That has nothing to do with anything. That school official should be fired for his generalized comment about students.
Mad respect to the officer who talked to this kid. The way the school admin was speaking about him being an 18 year old junior was sick. Hope the kid is able to make something out of his life
@@omargutierrez6382 being 18 in junior year doesn’t say anything about a person..I was in a bad family in and out of foster care and I missed practically 70% of 2-8 th grade thus I was forced to be held back a year
This poor kid was failed by every adult in his life. These cops are probably the first people to show him genuine respect. I hope he gets to a better place in life.
Idk abou every adult because we dont see his parents, but definitely the teachers we see in this video are nothing but failures. He and all students deserve much better people to look up to. His "teachers" should be the ones learning a lesson here, more than anyone
I agree with the sentiment, but this is how cops should treat EVERYBODY. We pay them to be the better man/woman/human being in any situation, maybe if more of behaved that way there'd be a lot less resentment towards the police from the public. This is what police reform means! Unless they're being shot at, then do whatever they need to, obviously. Over time, though, people won't be so freaking inclined to shoot at them in the first place. Seriously, what's it going to take for LEOs to stop taking every encounter personally?
20yr state motor officer. This is how all peace officers are supposed act, you always de-escalate situations this how you are trained. Its how the majority of LE are. The media ONLY shows the bad apples never the good ones.
@@hanskurtmann6781 Yeah this is how they are SUPPOSED to act. The majority don't, not even just what's shown in the media. Be mad at your own people and the truth.
Well ofc they're gonna be nice, if they think he's unhinged and a potential shooter then everything and anything these cops say could help influence what he does in the future
It is, and if he knew so well why didn't he reach out to help "that one" in the first place? It sounds like he's shifting the blame honestly for why he'd have it, idk
I've been a cop for almost 15 years. This high-schooler is more honest and respectful than 100% of "guilty" juveniles I've ever dealt with, though he's legally not a juvenile at the age of 18. Not once did he lie or attempt to deceive in any way and, to be honest, I commend him for sticking to his guns (no pun intended). I am unfamiliar with the law in Ohio, but after a quick Google search, according to Ohio revised code Section 2923.122, an adult in possession of a firearm within a school zone is lawful to do so if 1) the gun is left in a motor vehicle, 2) the gun does not leave the motor vehicle, and 3) the person has exited and locked the motor vehicle. Frankly, I am amazed at how he supported his claims pertaining to the law he researched, but admitted fault when not having considered school policy. Zero percent of me thinks there was any ill-intention here. I see an intelligent young man who has had some struggles but had no intension here of lying or covering up any of his actions. Major props to these officers for the utmost professionalism that was shown throughout this entire encounter. In retrospect, these school officials should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. We will never understand what it is like to be a student in this era, where being killed in a classroom is a very real and everyday threat to these kids. I really hope this young man continues to mature as an honest and upstanding member of society and sees himself into a successful adult life and future career without this causing him any hurdles or harm.
There's no way that this footage alone tells you he isn't lying. Sociopaths and pathological liars are very believable and manipulative. He exhibited no empathy for how other students would be alarmed by the idea of another student bringing a firearm and ammo to school. At the very least, this is gross, neglectful behavior and a young adult like himself should be more aware of how his peers would feel and what he's bringing to school in his pockets.
i bet you would also be the first to blame school official if another school shooting happens and more children are killed. i commend the school official for their decisive action., in this time and age no school official should take bringing a gun to school infraction lightly. all too often in the past school official would give the trouble student a warning only to regret their decision after a school shooting by that same student. most of the school shooting perpetrator are the quiet polite type. so this kid really fit the bill. dont get me wrong i despise kids that bullly them in the first place. but no one has the right to take another person life. especially when such statistic shows that 98% of the students killed in school shooting are never the ones that were the bullys in the first place. they are innocent children. these school officials should never give any kids the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the safety of other innocent student that are there to learn. PERIOD
So he actually wasn't doing anything wrong according to Ohio law? Since it is not in fact against the law for an 18 year old or older to have a gun in his locked vehicle why all of this?
Kudos to the officers for being professional and having a healthy, educational conversation with the young man. How disgusting it is to hear how negatively the school admins talked about and treated him, especially the one saying "those are the ones that bring guns".
@@williamfulop5277 but it's still not allowed so as a STUDENT he should respect that because if the gun was in the car he shouldnt have the bullets with him
Why should be in any trouble at all ? He had 3 rounds of ammunition not the rifle in the school. Second what is the issue with bring a long gun to a school ? Read history before you criminalize this student. My gosh.
@@benhargrove7969 threatened to expel him also. Immediately went straight to explaining he's 18, and made jokes about how he was the type to do a shooting. That's how, that's not very professional.
@@spugelo359 the kid was sitting there saying “do I look like a school shooter to you” “I’m not like a school shooter” He was the one making a joke out of it. I don’t know why people are showing so much sympathy for this boy that chose to bring a gun to school because he said it made him feel safe yet. It was in his car, how would he get to his car if there was a school shooting ?
@@GreenLevelStangLX50i feel for the kid but that’s a red flag, considering the circumstance. i truly hope this was a misfortunate accident and lapse in judgement by him.
@@GreenLevelStangLX50 I had the impression he's been abandoned to some degree by his parents. He's quite verbal and has some intellect; however, his paranoid ideation is concerning. I have the impression he's a terribly lonely and damaged child.
Officer:”He’s 18 and a Junior?” Principal:”*laughs* Those are usually the ones who bring guns to school.” The principal who acts like this is usually the one who has students bring guns to their school. Tragic situation.
I mean… if anyone a school principal is going to be very familiar with the demographic of student that would bring guns to school. Being an 18 yo junior does mean you are not very bright
I agree that principle just judged that child because he is 18 and not graduated yet.. those aren't the only ones who bring them at all. He needs to be written up and reprimanded for that statement .
Shout out to these officers for handling this professionally and with compassion for this young man. The way the school admins handles this was disgusting. It seems they had something against this young man from the beginning. "Those are the ones who bring guns to school" what a disgusting comment from the admin.
He’s an 18 year old junior. Some issues for sure. Seems like an innocent kid but yah an 18 year old junior for sure isn’t normal. Do you know any 18 year old junior from when you were in school because I don’t. He’s failed multiple times I’m sure they’ve had years of negative history, now he brought a gun. So yah they are prob really upset with him. I don’t think he had bad intent here but still I understand the admins being hostile, they didn’t yell and still kept it professional though. I think all parties kept it reasonable and the entire thing went smoothly. It’s a .22 but still he can’t bring that to school, charging him is good call. Also, if an 18 year old has to be around 14/15 year olds all day, that can’t be doing him any better. He’s never going to mature if you hold kids back in grades. He seems very misguided and he spends most his time alone at home and then at school around kids way younger than him. He will prob be a normal adult just right now he is in a bad place. Very sad situation. But still if I had a kid in this school I would demand they arrest this guy.
@@FinalAffliction he's only one year behind... juniors in my school were all 17. Disgusting admins. Those are the types of people that shouldn't be in ANY position of power over children. They're the ones who pervert and disgust the youth.
@@FinalAffliction I was 20 when I graduated in 99 but I hung in there and graduated now I own my own home and land three vehicles and a good job have raised my own child who graduates next year at 18 so yeah maybe not normal, but it worked for me.
I graduated in 2009 and remember plenty of kids who would go hunting before school, and would just leave their gear in the car while they were at school. They didn't hide it, or anything, pretty crazy how quickly things change.
same here, i dont even live in a red state, just near where people like to go hunting. im sure most of them werent even registered or legally allowed to have it either lol. sad times we're living! and people wonder why americans arent having kids lol
My grandfather and his friends would bring their rifles to their lockers because they would hunt after school. And guess what, school shootings didn’t happen back then I wonder why🤔
Because the whole thing was a cry for attention of help or something to begin with! He wouldn't accidentally drop a bullet in the middle of the school cafeteria, then immediately happily brings it up as soon as he sees police in the school.
i cant believe a teacher was making fun of one of their students because he was a junior and 18. like its their system that failed this kid. as someone who was held back because i wasnt able to learn under the schools system ive been made fun of from other kids and teachers and its always so much worse when its the adults that are doing the bullying. now i realize most of them are just ignorant adult children who suround themselve around young adults to feel power (not saying all teachers are like this, ive had plenty of teachers who actually care about their job and what they're doing)
I actually live close to this neighborhood, its 15 minutes from my house. Its an extremely rich and segregated area. Most of the people who live in that area are entitled snobby and self righteous, its exactly what you would expect.
I got into trouble once where I was up for a suspension. I remember they handed me a form to sign, told me I would be suspended for 4 days, and told me to sign it right there. They didn’t call my parents, didn’t give me a chance to defend myself, and I was scared out of my mind. Administration in public schools is absolutely appalling. Wow! 136 likes? Thanks for all of the comments and likes you guys! Glad I could start a thread/dialogue.
School administration have 0 faith in the students they are trying to push into society. It's ridiculous. I can't count how many times I got in trouble for stuff that they had no evidence for. Sat in the principals office before as she showed security tape claiming I cussed out some girls on campus....surprise surprise she didn't find anything on those tapes and I missed 30 mins of class
The form is pointless, just a formality really. That’s why they had a witness; if you don’t sign someone witnessed you simply refused. If you violate a policy they suspend you, plain and simple.
@@LickyTee personally I don’t have an issue with it when the person knows how to use it correctly. My school had a literal rifle team so many students walked in and out with their rifles.
The gentleman making fun of the kid for being an 18yr old junior... I hope that was a nervous reaction or having a bad day. If you genuinely think it's acceptable to have that kind of mindset you don't need to be involved in education and the honorable thing to do would be to resign and choose a more appropriate career to fit their personality.
The cops genuinely handled communication regarding the kid's concerns better than the school staff when it's not even their job. That same guy just walked out of the room from the kid when he was asking questions trying to understand what he did wrong.
The officers are amazing!! Bravo guys!! The school official that said “ He is 18 year old junior and on a 504 plan, those are the kinda kids that do this” should be fired. Being 18 and on a 504 plan has nothing to do with any of this.
Great social skills from the officer talking to the kid in the school office. Really did a nice job getting him to open up and explain his way of thinking.
agreed only complaint was the police struggling to secure a 22. but they are trained on assault weapons and side arms. I dunno just stood out to me. not excusing the kid for his actions.
Great job to the police officers that stayed calm and cool with him. And really tried to explain to him that there is a law that says no firearms on school property
@@Jlk9711the principle mentioned the 504 act. He has a disability that affects his learning and from this encounter it may also impact his judgment on the severity of things.
Feel bad? He is surrounded by cops and tries to gaslight them and refuses to hear them about gun laws. He shows no emotion and thinks the whole thing is a joke.
@@jenniferno6354Cops have a legal right to be able to lie to you. So who cares if he gaslights them? He seemed genuinely misinformed. Listening to the wrong 2A nuts will do that to you 😂.
"Those are usually the ones that bring guns" Dude that said this has no business being part of the school staff. It's no wonder kids turn to violence when even the teachers are bullies.
these administrators have so much hatred towards the kid no wonder he’s struggling at this school. they won’t even hear his explanation or try to accept he didn’t have evil intentions.
This happened to a friend of mine in high school. He had a pocket knife in his truck. He got suspended for a month. Nicest kid ever, he would never hurt anyone, had the knife because he did ranch work. They treated him like a criminal.
The way the officer dealt with Rosen was amazing. He was very patient, sympathetic and the fact that he took the time to try and calm the kid down honestly you couldn’t have asked for more. It was a very scary situation but the way it was handled was wonderful. More cops should learn from this officer.
@@RobbieStacks90are you fng serious? Over 600 mass shootings in schools this year alone. Over 8.000 gun deaths in the us THIS YEAR ALONE. Fock your second amendment right. Guns dont belong in schools. PERIOD.
@@RobbieStacks90 The description said 'he was later arrested for having a deadly weapon in a school safety zone.' I got suspended from HS for 3 days bc i had a pack of cigarettes on my front seat and a teacher walked by and saw them- I was like this kid here bc not until i got in trouble did i learn the hard way that my school was super serious about being a 'tobacco free zone.' Id thought by keeping them outside the building that i wasn't breaking that rule but since my car was in the school parking lot, on school property i was punished.
They were lining him up for an easy prosecution, and even admitted as much. Kid was ill-informed, but they were using his learning impairment to their benefit. Also, chain-of-custody of the evidence (.22LR into his glove lol) will make a good lawyer very happy. Incompetent cops waste courts time.
I actually feel sad listening to this young man saying that the cops don't do anything to protect him. This epidemic of these mass shootings is taking its toll on our children.
He lied so many times.. zero props given.. kids a pathological liar obviously. Everything he talks about is that he’s afraid of life, afraid of someone fighting with him, afraid of fighting someone bigger potentially “people are always itching to fight ya know! So the gun is like a pacifier and soother for me” .. literally what he said.. he said if someone approached his vehicle in a road accident and the guy is bigger he would immediately pull out his gun.. this kid is ITCHING to kill someone clearly ..
@@SamuellaOchoriossounds like ur just very afraid of guns in general, just because people own guns doesnt mean they want to go on a killing spree but what do i know, i cant change someones opinion on the internet that wont listen
@@Nationeternalyeah but the percentage of people who bring guns to school who do want to go on a shooting spree is much higher than the general gun owner
Facing a year in prison is nuts 😂 I graduated in 2020 and kids would accidentally have rounds in their backpacks from hunting earlier in the day on the first day of deer season. They’d go to the main office turn them in and diffuse the situation and that was it, some of that school staff had it out for that kid from the remarks they made alone.
I graduated in '09. I went to the hick school full of redneck republicans. And they had zero tolerance back then too. Students carried bullets and knives (usually from the ranch) but if they came to campus with it, it was automatic expulsion pending crimimal charges. A year is pretty appropriate considering the circumstances and what could have happened if they didnt catch a kid posing a potential threat.
@@uhhhhh341it's not. They sent him to prison for something that is totally legal. He even said the law is made up and he is correct. Bringing a gun to school is absolutely fine as long as you don't shoot anyone who doesn't give you consent.
They are really only trained to be familiar with their own firearms. And to qualify on them at the minimal level. AKA... Qualifying on a 15 yard range. I may be incorrect on the range distance, but that's what it is in the Navy at least.
This was a tough one. My emotions were flip-flopping back and forth over the course of this entire video. But I think my final takeaway is this: I completely understand where the kid's point was coming from, but he is still at fault here. Law-abiding gun owners need to be more vigilant about the carry laws than the rest of the public does.
Or maybe as someone so young and naive to not be able to make the obvious judgement to not have that at SCHOOL and understand the other factors that come with owning the gun. Like knowing the laws surrounding carrying. Yes he should know. But also he’s too young to be able to completely.
its a gun owners responsibility to know gun laws and he obviously spends time on the dark side of the internet or at the very least watching these videos where people think they know their rights and cops just get tired of them and let them go " see it was a victory I know the law " type videos. Sad this kids life is going to be disrupted more than it already obviously is ( 18 as a junior ) by internet trolls who lead him to think these laws were just policies not actionable or enforceable by law or arrest.
Let me update the American constitution for you: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed unless the government decides otherwise.
I feel bad for the youth of today. This kid clearly articulated that he doesn't feel safe or protected at his own school and that he had enough anxiety to make sure he has a back up plan in case he gets jumped. I think that's the real tragedy here and have to wonder how many other kids are in the same situation.
@@dflatt1783even back in 2010 when I was in high school in Mississippi everyone I knew had a shotgun or rifle in their car in the parking lot. Not once did I feel unsafe. Same goes for all of our parents. & to be honest if I was the youth of today and was able to, I’d also have one in my car or trunk in case of an emergency. You will make it to that gun faster than any responding officer in the event of a mass casualty shooting 10/10 times. I’d rather be judged by a jury of my peers than be dead when it’s all said and done.
The school official in the tan jacket in the scene where they where searching the car was in extremely poor taste with the comment, “those are usually the ones that bring guns.” What a biased and discriminatory remark to make from someone who governs these kids day to day and quite alarming.
I went to school in the 80's. Boys drove trucks to school with gun racks full of guns, daily. Things change. America changes with each generation. Just because it was fine in the 80's doesn't mean it is fine in today's school society.
So here in Southern oregon we actually have a school gun club they do shooting competition and teach basic rifle marksmanship so yeah its still acceptable today it's just not acceptable by some people
He's not wrong. As a student in the 1980's, it was a common sight to see pickup trucks parked in the parking lot, with gun-racks in the back windows, with hunting rifles. No one cared. Even more amazingly (by today's standards), we had a student in 8th grade who brought a rifle to school, and put it in his P.E. locker. The coach confronted him, and he said he was going hunting after school. The coach took it and secured it in his P.E. office, and told him he could come get it after school. No one cared.
Absolutely, I’m amazed that people think school shooters care about laws. He didn’t induce panic, school shooters do. The law saying someone can’t bring a gun to school does nothing more than prevent self defense.
I was I high school in the late 90’s and I was one that had a gun rack in my truck sometimes with a shotgun and/or rifle in it and parked in the student lot and didn’t think anything about it and nobody cared. Charleston SC if anyone cares.
I work in the mental health field and each workplace has offered training in deescalation techniques. I think a lot of the time officers escalate situations by flaunting their power. I usually leave these videos thinking "wow, cops need way more verbal deescalation training" but the way these officers handled this was phenomenal. Especially how they responded when he began to argue and walk away too quickly. Calmly explaining what they needed, what was going go happen, validating his feelings but holding the boundary, managing their own body language, volume and pace of speech. Excellent. Bravo!
@@Sly9192 look, these kids are growing up in a whole different world, you get a smart kid who knows his way around the Internet, you start to learn things. You learn about the scope of the daily atrocity’s that impact our lives and the psyche of those left living. This kid isn’t to be blamed, society is crumbling and this is the result. Do you think this is the only kid that feels unsafe and decides they value their own life over the rules? Kids are bombarded with headline after headline about school shootings. It wasn’t like this back then man, it just wasn’t 😔
I'm gobsmacked that two or three rozzers could not figure out the simple function of a .22 Rimfire lever-action rifle. Something I learned to use to plink targets and hunt small game when I was 8.
And the officer that said "Is there anyone in particular you're afraid of" its like hes trying to lead him to saying something wrong, which at the same time is reasonable... but still there is a disconnect there
Yea I’m absolutly astounded they didn’t even know how to check that a lever action wasn’t loaded. To the point of zip tying the lever up 😂 absolutely blown away they probably should have some sort of firearms familiarization with at least the basic families of common firearm types
Cops showed far more empathy and decency than the school staff. Seems like they couldn't wait to get this kid out. Sad to see that kind of behavior from the people you trust the most to be patient and understanding with your child.
Why wouldn't staff want him to be expelled over this??? Jfc you think they're supposed to be cool with the lives of kids and themselves being at risk? What a deluded, entitled parent you must be.
i feel bad for this kid and whatever he has going on at home. he said a lot of the wrong things and made some huge mistakes but has clearly been failed by his parents. the officer asking about anxiety and him denying it really pointed it out. i hope he makes it out and makes good for himself
I went to school in the 60's and early 70's. We traded knives on the playground and most young men had either a revolver or a rifle in their cars/trucks. We also got into fights at times and not one guy ever pulled a knife or a gun. Or ever threatened a teacher. Times sure have changed.
They always act like your buddy while they're placing you in cuffs. It's part of their training... psychological mindgames. Keep you complacent with nice words while they strip you of your constitutional rights.
I got arrested for having a razor blade in my car at school on the first day when I was 16 😐 They treated this guy with so much respect. They walked me through the whole school in cuffs in front of everyone. Congrats to these officers or shame to the one that handled my case.
Really ? when they interviewed the kid and his dad in Atlanta he convinced the cops he would " never" shoot up a school. You NEVER KNOW who you are dealing with .
I’m at a standstill. I feel for the kid. But also for the other students that go to school. How messed up are the times that we live in today . A kid has to have a gun at school to feel safe.
I mean to be fair in America we have a long history of students being armed and there not being any shootings. Guns keep people safe, not signs and legislation
A gun in your car isn’t likely to protect you against an active shooter inside the school. You would have to leave the school and then go back to your car to get the gun, then go back into the school - which would increase risk 😢
Another thing that I want to point out and say is that being an 18 year old junior does not mean you are dyslexic or behind or anything like that. I was an 18 year old junior and graduated when I was nineteen and it was because of when my birthday fell on.
The principal mentioned briefly during the suspension to the teen because he is on a 504c plan the superintendent may have liency. 504c plan means he had a learning or physical disability that requires him to be in special ed and gives him until the age of 24 to graduate highschool. He may not have been able to comprehend the severity of his actions and their consequences.
@@jessicapena8391 This is correct. The implications of this footage even being available and the fact that his name was not withheld doesn't sit well with me
Poor kid. I hope the punishment fits the crime and it does not ruin his life. As for those teachers who made those comments, they need to be fired and held for their poor unprofessional comments behaviors and bullying statements. I’m more upset about their comments then the kid having a small gun in his car outside of the school….
right?! he clearly needs to be comforted about his worries to a professional but its quite concerning admin wasn’t handling it responsibly. i hope his case will be properly handled and props to the cops for being gentle and understanding.
Why poor kid. Bringing weapons to school is a serious crime and major safety hazard. He should be tried in court to the fullest extend of the law. Unacceptable
That’s a lot of assumptions without context. You probably don’t work with children. This boy is obviously very intelligent, and is probably bored in the school system. He likely acts out A LOT in order for comments to be made like that. Do I know that? No, because I don’t have the FULL CONTEXT. Bad teachers are a lot harder to find than you think
@@FransceneJK98 a little .22 pea shooter with 3 bullets, your joking right? its pretty clear this kid wasnt trying to shoot up the school as there is much better weapons to do that.
That “school official and teacher” or whatever tf they were, were not only extremely unprofessional but disgusting to joke abt such a thing as a school shooting
Speaking from experience, there is a lot of kids in high school that do this. This dude basically screwed himself over by making it obvious (leaving a bullet in the school, etc), but him having a .22 lever action rifle in the back of his truck in the parking lot of the school is far from what I consider to be outrageous.
Yeah. He was very naive. He should never have taken the bullets into school, and as long as his rifle was not in plain sight, nothing would have came of it. Is it illegal to bring ammo into a school safety zone? If he didn’t tell them that he had a rifle in his car, I wonder if they still would have searched his vehicle?
Yeah same at my school and same thing happened here and that was 2000s idk why people defend it now. We all knew we would have cops called and i live in oklahoma a town of 2000 people only people that did tho usually were the ones who dropped out too tho.
“Am I being detained or am I free to go?” “I need to speak with a lawyer” Those are the only 2 things anyone should say when speaking to law enforcement ESPECIALLY if they’re innocent
@@nickwheeler1652That arrogant attitude is exactly what causes people to destroy their defense case because they thought they could not say anything incriminating but in reality they give the interrogator all they need to trip them up and find a contradiction in a story. Always better to prepare your statements first then trying to revise them later and have your credibility brought into question.
But if you act like one of these "sovereign citizens" arrogantly it only escalates those situations. Unless your caught red handed and it's a big crime. If it's simple and you know your right be respectful and handle it in court. If it's wrongful arrest you should see dollar signs. Either way keep your cool
How compassionate these cops were is amazing! I believe the kid because as a parent of a high schooler I have anxiety, I asked million questions, I’m driving around the school to make sure my kid is safe. Imagine how the kids feel everyday? The staffs at the school are ignorant and ready to attack the innocent ones. Where is your heart? Sad! Thank God for the Officers!
They were making a case against him, everybody in the video wanted to ruin his life. If he just shut up, never talked about the car or the gun, he would have been just fine! Never talk to the police, lawyer up!
parents deal with this issue everyday wondering if I'm sending my child to school and praying they come back safe he should of known that that was not a smart idea he may have felt uncomfortable. But look how uncomfortable he made everyone else you nvr know the state of mind of other kids what if someone else knew about his gun and wanted to use it keep our schools and children safe talk more to your children. educate them and yourself seek help from therapy. or get more involved in your community and kids school but claiming to not know and by being ignorant only hurts other ppl. he tried to push the limits even saying he looked up the laws before he brought it to school. thank God they were able to pin point where it came from and no one was hurt
@@Derzull2468cops don’t decide charges. Prosecutors do. He is 18. He thinks he knows enough about the law to bring that to school but he doesn’t know enough to say I’d prefer not to answer questions beyond identifying myself? The cops aren’t making a case, HE is.
@@standardnerd9840 He's 18 and he doesn't know everything most adults have 0 clue about? How dare he. Give him a break, that was the job of the parents and the school to prepare him for adult life, they failed and he buried himself instead of just shutting up. He didn't know any better and was too nice.
The guy who said “18 year old juniors are the ones who bring guns to school” shouldn’t be working around schools or with the community, he just seems like a really terrible person.
He simply just wasn’t thinking it through, very loud mouthed person it honestly could’ve just been a light joke for the moment or he totally could be stereotyping kids that get held back or start schooler later.
Had something like this happen at my school. A kid that is known for being a hunter and that’s about it had a 12 gauge in a locked gun box in his truck, and the admins had the police bring a K-9 unit out to sniff all the cars and found his shotgun. he got suspended for a month and it was absolutely ridiculous. I’m sure he forgot it was even in there. No one was worried about it all except for one member of staff that insisted he gets suspended
@@wolfpack1061 Locked key word mah boi Locked are you ludicrous? that's not irresponsible shooting your gun in the air in a neighborhood is irresponsible. I'd rather have that gun box locked then unlocked as far as bringing a gun to school.. it's a grey area for me liek I get why but no matter the reason you're goanna get fisted and most likely have you're guns taken.
This kid doesn't have anyone at home. Someone who listens. Said his dad is gone a lot. I don't think this kid had any ill will, just misguided and anxious with all of the horrible things happening around us.
@@MsTendus what constitutes a mass shooting event for you? The liberal definition of two pos gang bangers shooting up a crack house and hitting a pos crack baby or a real mass casualty event? Sorry if I seem jaded I've watched to much b.s. main stream cnn lately, my brains trying to recover from the b.s.
@@TheBasher-_- I lived in a small town in the 80’s and I saw pickup trucks in the school parking lot with gun racks in the back windows. We never had any problems and no one thought it was wrong.
"those are usually the ones who bring guns" - school admin. You sound like a great person with no bias at all. Exactly who i want pushing the school in the right direction
It's hard to believe nowadays but at 26 years old I still remember students 16 17 18 bringing deer rifles with into school leaving them in their vehicles hunting first thing before school first thing after school it's crazy how much things have changed in such little time
@@HaleyPanton back then? There only 26 not 56 lmao even 10 years ago we had school shootings. I'm in my late 30's and we dealt with Columbine, school shootings were rare when I grew up but now it seems like there is a school shooting every other month. I feel bad for the kid but there's zero reasons why he shouldn't have known better about bringing a gun to school just because you hear about school shootings 24/7. You must be really really young to even say that comment lol back then to a dang 26 year old making it seem they are ancient in age 😂😂😂
@@Gurpreet-sv5zg A “RedNeck” will be the first one to run to your aid in an emergency and the last one to leave your side in a battle. God Fearing Americans 💪🇺🇸☝️
20:30 She just says "Come with me" while the cop is mid sentence to him. That kind of dismissive disrespect is one of the things I hated at school. There's no need for it.
I respect the police for actually being empathic with this guy he obviously wasn’t a shooter this could’ve easily been escalated if they really wanted too
@@EllienollieHis admission of having the gun and ammo and compliance with the police? That's a pretty good reason. A shooter wouldn't be carrying around 2 bullets in their pocket with an unloaded gun kept in their vehicle. A shooter would be walking into a school building gun in hand and immediately start doing their thing, as every other shooter has...
If that was truly a teacher that made that joke about “those are the ones that bring guns to school”. He should be fired. He clearly looks down on that kid. The opposite of what that kid needs.
The teachers know that kid better than you do. They obviously legit feel like they stopped a school shooter for a reason. Just cuz you fell for the kid's innocent act doesn't mean everyone else has to
That principal COMPLETELY changed his demeanor. "At minimum it would be a 10 day suspension with possible expulsion" to "I"m pushing for your expulsion"
People like Ms. Ferguson are real heroes that need respect. The way she handled the situation and explained to the young man about the paperwork was way better than the principal. I feel like the principal must wear his emotions on his sleeve
@@TestingTestTest-zr5jb He's not a kid. It is not the cops or prosecutions job to educate a potential suspect on their legal rights. Once Miranda rights are provided, if he is still willing to talk to them, that is literally on him. We are all responsible for enacting our own rights once we turn 18. If you want to blame anyone for him not knowing his right to ask for an attorney at 18, blame our education system and help make that change. The officers and prosecution are just doing their job as they would with any other suspect.
@@cdrizzy69 you used to be able to bring guns to school, and back then there weren’t any school shootings, now schools are gun free zones and now they are shot up all the time. Doesn’t seem like a gun problem, seems like a mental health issue
I know that shootings in school are a terrible and recurring issue, and unfortunately, the kids feel the need to protect themselves because the system has failed them, however bringing a gun to school even if it's in your car, and expecting people to believe that you won't do anything wrong is obviously not how it works, I do feel for the kid because his heart seemed to be in the right place, but he had to know that having bullets with him and bringing a gun to school property is not legal.
True. I went to school in South Carolina and remember kids in high school would bring guns to school in their gun racks attached to their trucks. Nobody saw it as something awful. It was either cool or piqued curiosity. This was just back in the 90s. Back then there were still beaches where you could sleep overnight and nothing would happen. We can't do any of that anymore though.
@@Justahatinassni66a which beach? I'm talking about back when people would sleep at the beach in NY or other big cities. There would be a lot of people enjoying their time in the middle of the night and now all that is gone because crime went up.
I feel bad for the kid. When I was his age I was a huge firearm fanatic and also worried about school shootings. I had little siblings that went to the same school as me and I always told myself that if that ever happened, I would protect them with my life. Its different times now :/
@@dantthemanI’m praying for you and your brother. This just made me so sad.. it sucks that you and your little brother don’t even feel safe at a place that’s supposed to be safe for you guys.
So what will having your gun in your car OUTSIDE do? The whole school will be on lockdown and even if you leave and come back in with a gun that wouldn’t be a good idea if an officer sees you not knowing if you’re the shooter or not… there’s absolutely no need to bring a gun to school.
He wasn't super compliant. Sure, he didn't actively resist being arrested, but he 1) argued with the staff and refused to sign the paper saying he understood what they were accusing him of (which they repeatedly confirmed was not an admission of guilt), and 2) denied that what he did was illegal, and upon being shown the statute, then claimed the police made it up and he was being arrested on false charges. This is not the behavior of a compliant individual of sound mind.
Major respect to the police on this case. School admin didn’t take a second to talk or listen to the kid. He was in the wrong, but I completely get where he’s coming from.
School admin, and anyone working in the school district, is going to be harsher on him than the police officers. I kinda think i know why. Its just an assumption of mine. But i think its the difference in political ideals and upbringing. Alot of people who go into teaching lean left.
Just doing some quick digging and the administrator who was acting principal because the former resigned is a very hard leftists..took me 2 minutes 2 find him on their staff then checked his FB..of course he went hard on the kid because he doesn't believe in gun ownership he says it on his FB...
@@justinmcelhaney5591the dudes honestly pathetic. Kid meant no harm & he certainly isn’t shooting up any school with a small game rifle. It’s awful that political views dictate someone’s life in this sense.
@@randomspace6491That and the whole ordeal is bringing him a lot of extra work, stress and probably media publicity to the school. Just an all around headache to deal with
@@desensitizedif you manage to get out it will. Why limit your possibilities? Everyone's sitting ducks until someone gets a chance. Wtf are you talking about
@@kavalogue you would run back in towards the danger after managing to escape? that just increases your chances of getting shot because a cop might mistake you for the shooter
@@kavalogue If you manage to get out you arent going to stand at your car opening a safe, you are going to be dipping the scene.. "Wtf are you talking about" make it make sense lmaoo
People in the comment section behave as like the problem is unimportant, the man shouldn't be detained, and if nothing is done about him and someone gets into his car while it is unlocked and shoots someone, it is his fault.
The media spins everyone up making everyone scared of school shootings. This young man was actually scared. It was absolutely legal for him to have a gun IN HIS CAR. He is 18, there is nothing illegal about having a gun in his vehicle.
This kid is not a bad kid. I believe he's being very honest when he says he didn't show up with the intent of shooting other people. I also believe he has some challenges when it comes to learning. It's clear as he talks to the officers. But nowhere is there malice or anger in him. I hope this whole incident doesn't adversely affect his life for years, that he gets the help he needs and that he never, ever assumes he knows all the rules when it comes to owning a gun again because it's clear he doesn't. I actually wish him the best in life.
"Those are usually the ones who bring guns" guy is a horrible person. Said it with a smile on his face. He's laughing about a kids age/grade while minimizing the severity of this situation. He should be fired.
Also the kid was on a 504 plan so more than likely he has a learning disability. "If your child has a substantial limitation in one major life activity (learning, walking, seeing, hearing, breathing, etc.) your child may be eligible for a Section 504 plan."
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Section 2923 Ohio codes: (4) (b) The person leaves the handgun in a motor vehicle. (c) The handgun does not leave the motor vehicle. (d) If the person exits the motor vehicle, the person locks the motor vehicle.....from what I seen he kept the gun in vehicle and locked....so under Ohio code 2923 4b...he might not have violated the law?
@@LaurasDisorder But... It's interesting to watch.
@@TheREALDJFruitLoops yea i agree and a handgun is way more deadly than what he had 😂
@@LaurasDisorder it should be a requirement to have annual gun safety and gun competency tests to have a gun.
@@TKxDemon prolly just ain’t get caught with it dis dude bruh was caught if he didn’t nobody would knew he had a rifle in his park car on skool property lmao
As a gun owner it’s your responsibility to know the gun laws.
Absolutely
All gun laws are infringements.
The police should know the laws too but they don't. They need to be punished every time they falsely arrest someone. They need to serve the same amount of time as their victim.
@@GrizzleeBehr Agreed.
@@Shade_Tree_Mechanic so you agree felons should own guns too? I mean if you honestly think all gun laws are infringement then you agree felons should be able to own guns right?
Yikes. The teacher mocking him for being an 18yr old junior and laughing saying "those are usually the ones who bring guns to school". Absolutely disgusting. Teachers like him are the ones who have failed him.
Especially since they knew he was on a 504 plan! I have autistic twins who were on IEP’s and teachers & staff like that are disgusting! The worst issue we ever had was actually with a special needs teacher who was the head of the special needs department!! We never had a problem with students picking on them or teasing them, only that disgusting teacher! And making fun of them isn’t even the worst problem we had with her!
Well the teacher was right. Those are the students who tend to bring guns to school like he did. It's just to show off and they are just trying to be cool.
He was absolutely correct. The kid is unhinged.
Just horrible they are jerks
@@lizaltman1200 The kid is afraid, and for good reason. You have no idea what it is like to be in school today. Kids these days have to worry about being shot while they are trying to get an education. Of course the older kids are going to think about that and worry about how to protect themselves. The law doesn't do enough to protect them, so this is what it is coming to. You should be ashamed for judging this young man just for trying to stay safe. He was very respectful, honest, and cooperative. He is not "unhinged".
The one officer who went out of his way to talk to this kid and give him some kindness and empathy did a great thing here.
I know what kind of person you are. You’re the type to talk to someone in a soft way that gives me the creeps and I’d avoid you after that
It's called de escalation... he didn't do it for the kid, he did it for himself.
Disagree. Yes, good cops do go out of their way which is wonderful, however, this kid is completely clueless. There was no need to keep going back and forth
He don't look like no kid to me.
hello there claymac Jesus loves and gave his life for you so please repent and live for him
the officer explaining the arrest to the suspect did a great job treating the kid with respect and not showing bias against him regardless of the circumstances.
Agreed. He helped the kid keep calm and try to be on the same page.
My Grandfather used to tell me about how when he was a teen, all the boys would bring their hunting rifles to school to show off in the parking lot and go shooting after school. That being said, the world we lived in has changed and the threat of violence is very real.
High school in the late 90s that gangsters always had guns. Shootings just never happened at school really, just parties and stuff but people went to school with guns. Pre Columbine
It´s sad so many people have no morals, and do the guilty deserve the worst, yes. This guy didn't, tho he was a bit weird.
But it’s not even an assault rifle…
My 5th grade teacher complained to us how back in his day all the kids carried pocket knives. Now it’s crazy how much trouble they would get in. Told us he is fine with it, but be careful not to let other teachers catch you with one.
That was before marxist-communists began taking over. They bring all the chaos, offer the solution (just like this cop naively implies, "YOU have no right to self-defense, only the state does") which is always to disarm the people and convince them that slavery is freedom, war is peace, enemies are all around so give the state total control "for your security and safety", etc.
The teacher making that smug joke about the kid being an 18 yr old junior just shows you how screwed the entire public school system is in this country today.
Not her fault this kid isn’t smart 🤷♂️ maybe he should be more focused on his education instead of weapons.
@@zazasnruntz7505 did you understand the comment that the man made? he said “those are usually the ones that bring them”. it does go to show public schools are broken. most teachers don’t actually care about their students, the guy is a prime example. you dont know why this kid is 18 and a junior. you dont know his situation, so to say he’s not smart is just rude. you stating its not the teachers fault well he is a teacher so it kinda is his fault in some way why his students aren’t keeping up..
@@zazasnruntz7505 You have no insight on how much effort this guy puts into his education. He has a learning disability. Outside of his control. Also being "smart" is not going to remediate this issue and teachers should never make judgment's or generalizations like that as a joke.
I was held back in school. So I was an 18 yo Jr, so are lots of kids. That has nothing to do with anything. That school official should be fired for his generalized comment about students.
@@Thegeneralms1 fired? lol
Mad respect to the officer who talked to this kid. The way the school admin was speaking about him being an 18 year old junior was sick. Hope the kid is able to make something out of his life
Based on the conversation he’s probably autistic or something so he’s probably gonna live in a trailer park or in prison
Fu ck his life your soft asf
Yup, that stuff would get a police officer fired and national outrage, school teacher or admin does it crickets.
@@JRmarksmen blud he’s right tho it’s always those type of kids who think the world is against them 😂😂😂🤡
@@omargutierrez6382 being 18 in junior year doesn’t say anything about a person..I was in a bad family in and out of foster care and I missed practically 70% of 2-8 th grade thus I was forced to be held back a year
This poor kid was failed by every adult in his life. These cops are probably the first people to show him genuine respect. I hope he gets to a better place in life.
Idk abou every adult because we dont see his parents, but definitely the teachers we see in this video are nothing but failures. He and all students deserve much better people to look up to. His "teachers" should be the ones learning a lesson here, more than anyone
Respect for those cops for being more than his teachers
He failed himself. He has to bring bullets/a gun with him because it "makes him feel comfortable"
That is pathetic
The officer talking to this young man was wonderful to not treat him like a criminal and try to find out the entire situation.
yeah but Uh why did the cops ask the staff if he should be in handcuffs
@BentTom only if he treats everyone very similar. circumstance dictates not only the kids who look similar to his Brent
@@madnotez you mean tyrones and la'shante's?
@@dddaaa6965😂😂😂
I agree with the sentiment, but this is how cops should treat EVERYBODY. We pay them to be the better man/woman/human being in any situation, maybe if more of behaved that way there'd be a lot less resentment towards the police from the public. This is what police reform means!
Unless they're being shot at, then do whatever they need to, obviously. Over time, though, people won't be so freaking inclined to shoot at them in the first place. Seriously, what's it going to take for LEOs to stop taking every encounter personally?
These are the nicest cops I have ever seen. Didn't raise their voice, very understanding, and actually listened to the student.
20yr state motor officer. This is how all peace officers are supposed act, you always de-escalate situations this how you are trained. Its how the majority of LE are. The media ONLY shows the bad apples never the good ones.
@@hanskurtmann6781 Yeah this is how they are SUPPOSED to act. The majority don't, not even just what's shown in the media. Be mad at your own people and the truth.
Well ofc they're gonna be nice, if they think he's unhinged and a potential shooter then everything and anything these cops say could help influence what he does in the future
This is how most of my interactions with the police have been when they’ve been called on me.
@@xxxchaotixxxdifference is he isn’t aggressive
the fact that one of the admins said “those are usually the ones who bring that stuff” because he’s a junior at 18 is absolutely ridiculous
It is, and if he knew so well why didn't he reach out to help "that one" in the first place? It sounds like he's shifting the blame honestly for why he'd have it, idk
It's unprofessional.
and true...
He smiled when he said that expecting the police to co-sign his terrible “joke”
I thought it was hilarious and true
12:51 whoever it was that said “absolutely” about having Rosen taken away in handcuffs shows how much he really wants him to be arrested.
yea duh
He needed to be arrested
the strokes reference?
Probably so it acts as a deterrent to other students
Anyone bringing a gun to school should be arrested in cuffs.
It’s heartbreaking to hear him say he has the gun to make him feel safe and comforted because he’s often alone at home. I wish the best for him
The school is doing the right thing though by taking this seriously, you can’t have people showing up with guns because you never know
That kid has serious psychopath vibes going on
@@henria.277 because he had a gun in a locked box in his car?? You are a weirdo lol
Ur so gullible- ofc he’s gonna say anything to plead his case
@@morganwheeler3949 a huge rifle? It's a Henry .22, it's tiny
I've been a cop for almost 15 years. This high-schooler is more honest and respectful than 100% of "guilty" juveniles I've ever dealt with, though he's legally not a juvenile at the age of 18. Not once did he lie or attempt to deceive in any way and, to be honest, I commend him for sticking to his guns (no pun intended). I am unfamiliar with the law in Ohio, but after a quick Google search, according to Ohio revised code Section 2923.122, an adult in possession of a firearm within a school zone is lawful to do so if 1) the gun is left in a motor vehicle, 2) the gun does not leave the motor vehicle, and 3) the person has exited and locked the motor vehicle. Frankly, I am amazed at how he supported his claims pertaining to the law he researched, but admitted fault when not having considered school policy. Zero percent of me thinks there was any ill-intention here. I see an intelligent young man who has had some struggles but had no intension here of lying or covering up any of his actions. Major props to these officers for the utmost professionalism that was shown throughout this entire encounter. In retrospect, these school officials should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. We will never understand what it is like to be a student in this era, where being killed in a classroom is a very real and everyday threat to these kids. I really hope this young man continues to mature as an honest and upstanding member of society and sees himself into a successful adult life and future career without this causing him any hurdles or harm.
There's no way that this footage alone tells you he isn't lying. Sociopaths and pathological liars are very believable and manipulative. He exhibited no empathy for how other students would be alarmed by the idea of another student bringing a firearm and ammo to school. At the very least, this is gross, neglectful behavior and a young adult like himself should be more aware of how his peers would feel and what he's bringing to school in his pockets.
Mature upstanding member of society?😂😂😂😂😂 omg this is too good
i bet you would also be the first to blame school official if another school shooting happens and more children are killed. i commend the school official for their decisive action., in this time and age no school official should take bringing a gun to school infraction lightly. all too often in the past school official would give the trouble student a warning only to regret their decision after a school shooting by that same student. most of the school shooting perpetrator are the quiet polite type. so this kid really fit the bill. dont get me wrong i despise kids that bullly them in the first place. but no one has the right to take another person life. especially when such statistic shows that 98% of the students killed in school shooting are never the ones that were the bullys in the first place. they are innocent children. these school officials should never give any kids the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the safety of other innocent student that are there to learn. PERIOD
Thank you for your service sir.
So he actually wasn't doing anything wrong according to Ohio law? Since it is not in fact against the law for an 18 year old or older to have a gun in his locked vehicle why all of this?
Kudos to the officers for being professional and having a healthy, educational conversation with the young man. How disgusting it is to hear how negatively the school admins talked about and treated him, especially the one saying "those are the ones that bring guns".
This exactly
Its almost like he.. brought a gun.
@@tcgggggcontext matters though. There’s a “why” he brought it and what was his “intent”
facts
fr the officers were at least trying to help the kid understand but the school was just trying to pin him and get him charged
I like how the kid just admit every thing so he could be in less trouble but he's still in trouble. Shoutout to the cop you talked to the kid nicely
he said that he had a gun in his car, which is (parked in a school parking lot or not) not a crime
@@williamfulop5277 well it shouldnt be on school premises/property
@@Norasummer22 if its away from the student its not a danger
@@williamfulop5277 but it's still not allowed so as a STUDENT he should respect that because if the gun was in the car he shouldnt have the bullets with him
Why should be in any trouble at all ? He had 3 rounds of ammunition not the rifle in the school. Second what is the issue with bring a long gun to a school ? Read history before you criminalize this student. My gosh.
The way the admin handled the situation was horrible. Respect to the cops and I hope the kid learns something of value from this
How? They suspended him, it’s standard procedure.
@@benhargrove7969 threatened to expel him also. Immediately went straight to explaining he's 18, and made jokes about how he was the type to do a shooting. That's how, that's not very professional.
@@the_RCB_films An expulsion referral is automatic if you bring a weapon to school. Show me a school where that’s not standard procedure.
@@the_RCB_films The only uncalled for would be joking about school shooting. Everything else sounds reasonable to me.
@@spugelo359 the kid was sitting there saying “do I look like a school shooter to you” “I’m not like a school shooter” He was the one making a joke out of it. I don’t know why people are showing so much sympathy for this boy that chose to bring a gun to school because he said it made him feel safe yet. It was in his car, how would he get to his car if there was a school shooting ?
These cops talking to him was very compassionate, you could tell this kid needed someone to listen to him.
@@GreenLevelStangLX50i feel for the kid but that’s a red flag, considering the circumstance. i truly hope this was a misfortunate accident and lapse in judgement by him.
They held nothing but an extremely belittling demeanor.
Compassion will stop school shootings. A lot of young people feel completely isolated.
@@GreenLevelStangLX50 I had the impression he's been abandoned to some degree by his parents. He's quite verbal and has some intellect; however, his paranoid ideation is concerning. I have the impression he's a terribly lonely and damaged child.
They do that to make them feel comfortable to talk
Imagine being a member of school staff and making jokes about an 18 y/o junior in a situation involving guns. Are you kidding me?
I was just thinking that!
Right!?
Let's get them fired
ABSOLUTELY SICKENING!
He should have to go before the school board for such a ridiculous statement!
Is he wrong tho? Normal people don't bring guns to school. And normal people don't defend people that do 😂
5:38 that guy in blue just arrived when the kid was sayng "I've got a rifle". He was like "eeeexcuse me!?" 😂😂😂
Officer:”He’s 18 and a Junior?”
Principal:”*laughs* Those are usually the ones who bring guns to school.”
The principal who acts like this is usually the one who has students bring guns to their school.
Tragic situation.
Yes the principle was clearly a bully when he was in school. They way he acted he was a good ol boy.
Happy they set this kid as an example…. 18 and privileged they needed to bring him back to reality. Good job I hope they keep arresting kids
I mean… if anyone a school principal is going to be very familiar with the demographic of student that would bring guns to school. Being an 18 yo junior does mean you are not very bright
I agree that principle just judged that child because he is 18 and not graduated yet.. those aren't the only ones who bring them at all. He needs to be written up and reprimanded for that statement .
Yeah that was a bit messed up
Shout out to these officers for handling this professionally and with compassion for this young man. The way the school admins handles this was disgusting. It seems they had something against this young man from the beginning. "Those are the ones who bring guns to school" what a disgusting comment from the admin.
He’s an 18 year old junior. Some issues for sure. Seems like an innocent kid but yah an 18 year old junior for sure isn’t normal. Do you know any 18 year old junior from when you were in school because I don’t. He’s failed multiple times I’m sure they’ve had years of negative history, now he brought a gun. So yah they are prob really upset with him. I don’t think he had bad intent here but still I understand the admins being hostile, they didn’t yell and still kept it professional though. I think all parties kept it reasonable and the entire thing went smoothly. It’s a .22 but still he can’t bring that to school, charging him is good call. Also, if an 18 year old has to be around 14/15 year olds all day, that can’t be doing him any better. He’s never going to mature if you hold kids back in grades. He seems very misguided and he spends most his time alone at home and then at school around kids way younger than him. He will prob be a normal adult just right now he is in a bad place. Very sad situation. But still if I had a kid in this school I would demand they arrest this guy.
Geez you think they might know him unlike you
@@FinalAffliction he has a learning disability... of course he was held back.
@@FinalAffliction he's only one year behind... juniors in my school were all 17. Disgusting admins. Those are the types of people that shouldn't be in ANY position of power over children. They're the ones who pervert and disgust the youth.
@@FinalAffliction I was 20 when I graduated in 99 but I hung in there and graduated now I own my own home and land three vehicles and a good job have raised my own child who graduates next year at 18 so yeah maybe not normal, but it worked for me.
I graduated in 2009 and remember plenty of kids who would go hunting before school, and would just leave their gear in the car while they were at school. They didn't hide it, or anything, pretty crazy how quickly things change.
same here, i dont even live in a red state, just near where people like to go hunting. im sure most of them werent even registered or legally allowed to have it either lol. sad times we're living! and people wonder why americans arent having kids lol
My grandfather and his friends would bring their rifles to their lockers because they would hunt after school. And guess what, school shootings didn’t happen back then I wonder why🤔
It was in the car and him calling a object a friend sounds like mentally ill
Liberals and weak men is what happened. We allowed the weak ones to run rampant without being checked. Chaos
@@Ryan-si2zb because kids don’t get disciplined anymore. Parents are too soft on their kids and the result is crazy kids
It’s amazing how’s these city cops never have a clue about firearms. The way they were clueless about that Henry is wild.
City cops don't want citizens to own guns...
This kid can't stop talking! Don't ever talk to the cops without a lawyer, especially if you think you're innocent.
Because the whole thing was a cry for attention of help or something to begin with! He wouldn't accidentally drop a bullet in the middle of the school cafeteria, then immediately happily brings it up as soon as he sees police in the school.
they obviously havent watched enough true crime videos on youtube yet - then they'll learn lol
Innocent or not don't say a word.
This guy completely ratted himself out “oh I that’s my bullet” did you drive here? “Yes I did” do you have a gun in your car”yes I do”
Most American thing I've ever heard
i cant believe a teacher was making fun of one of their students because he was a junior and 18. like its their system that failed this kid. as someone who was held back because i wasnt able to learn under the schools system ive been made fun of from other kids and teachers and its always so much worse when its the adults that are doing the bullying. now i realize most of them are just ignorant adult children who suround themselve around young adults to feel power (not saying all teachers are like this, ive had plenty of teachers who actually care about their job and what they're doing)
It’s disgusting
I actually live close to this neighborhood, its 15 minutes from my house. Its an extremely rich and segregated area. Most of the people who live in that area are entitled snobby and self righteous, its exactly what you would expect.
That was the principal
Still brought a gun to school!
that was one of the detectives, someone who definitely didnt get held back lol
I got into trouble once where I was up for a suspension. I remember they handed me a form to sign, told me I would be suspended for 4 days, and told me to sign it right there. They didn’t call my parents, didn’t give me a chance to defend myself, and I was scared out of my mind. Administration in public schools is absolutely appalling.
Wow! 136 likes? Thanks for all of the comments and likes you guys! Glad I could start a thread/dialogue.
School administration have 0 faith in the students they are trying to push into society. It's ridiculous.
I can't count how many times I got in trouble for stuff that they had no evidence for. Sat in the principals office before as she showed security tape claiming I cussed out some girls on campus....surprise surprise she didn't find anything on those tapes and I missed 30 mins of class
The form is pointless, just a formality really. That’s why they had a witness; if you don’t sign someone witnessed you simply refused. If you violate a policy they suspend you, plain and simple.
He was a legal adult.
so you see nothing wrong about bringing a gun to school?
@@LickyTee personally I don’t have an issue with it when the person knows how to use it correctly. My school had a literal rifle team so many students walked in and out with their rifles.
The gentleman making fun of the kid for being an 18yr old junior... I hope that was a nervous reaction or having a bad day. If you genuinely think it's acceptable to have that kind of mindset you don't need to be involved in education and the honorable thing to do would be to resign and choose a more appropriate career to fit their personality.
That dude prolly makes less than $50k/ year. Pretty silly of him to make fun of anyone
Yeah I'm pretty sure that he isn't killing it in his life either.
The cops genuinely handled communication regarding the kid's concerns better than the school staff when it's not even their job. That same guy just walked out of the room from the kid when he was asking questions trying to understand what he did wrong.
Yes that was disgusting behaviour
Its a shame how disrespectful the principal is and how ignorant most of the staff is
I agree!
"Let him murder people."
No
@@josephiajanke9850 ignorant comment, are you the 18yo junior?
@josephiajanke9850 I apologize I didn't realize your ability to see into the future of something that never happened
@@josephiajanke9850 he could murder someone just as easy with his car are you gonna try to have that taken from him aswell??
The officers are amazing!! Bravo guys!! The school official that said “ He is 18 year old junior and on a 504 plan, those are the kinda kids that do this” should be fired. Being 18 and on a 504 plan has nothing to do with any of this.
yeah a 504 plan literally just means that he has to have a certain accommodation, most likely adhd or something
@@Crazyclay78YTdefinitely not adhd
I’m 17 but I’ll turn 18 during my junior year
the joke is funny, the dudes probably been held back and those kids normally would do those types of things
@@gameknight7760 i have several friends last year in junior year that didnt get held back and they were 18
Great social skills from the officer talking to the kid in the school office. Really did a nice job getting him to open up and explain his way of thinking.
Probably because of the political stances of almost every teacher... They hate guns
@@fred3965 seems completely unrelated to what he said but okay lol
agreed only complaint was the police struggling to secure a 22. but they are trained on assault weapons and side arms. I dunno just stood out to me. not excusing the kid for his actions.
My mistake this reply was meant for another comment and mistakenly replied to this one but still my comment is true.
@@buddlust710 I agree, that seemed really off to me
Great job to the police officers that stayed calm and cool with him. And really tried to explain to him that there is a law that says no firearms on school property
I honestly feel bad for this kid…and how dare that admin say “the 18 year old juniors are usually the ones who do it.”
Are you an 18 year old junior
I agree I mean it’s only like he’s one year behind. I knew a kid in my high school he was like 21 when he graduated.
@@Jlk9711the principle mentioned the 504 act. He has a disability that affects his learning and from this encounter it may also impact his judgment on the severity of things.
Feel bad? He is surrounded by cops and tries to gaslight them and refuses to hear them about gun laws. He shows no emotion and thinks the whole thing is a joke.
@@jenniferno6354Cops have a legal right to be able to lie to you. So who cares if he gaslights them? He seemed genuinely misinformed. Listening to the wrong 2A nuts will do that to you 😂.
I love how the principal and teachers made jokes throughout the whole situation. Pathetic and embarrassing.
They all need fired!!!
"He's 18 and a Jr.?"
"yea, those are usually the ones who bring guns"
wtf was that lol man even knew he was being recorded talking like that
@@thatdarnmage1515 that comment made in the video was highly unnecessary. just because he's an 18 year old junior doesn't mean anything.
@@cliquegatorade3778 embarrassing though
@@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 Yall need school again
"Those are usually the ones that bring guns"
Dude that said this has no business being part of the school staff. It's no wonder kids turn to violence when even the teachers are bullies.
Lol so this has happened before and they didnt make it clear it was against the law? Yeah definition of school admin not giving af
I was thinking the same thing. He needs to be removed.
pff
Yeah and then smiles jokingly about it. That guy just emits the creep vibe.
thank god he said it though, it should help the kids case
these administrators have so much hatred towards the kid no wonder he’s struggling at this school. they won’t even hear his explanation or try to accept he didn’t have evil intentions.
Bringing weapons to school is a serious crime and major safety hazard. He should be tried in court to the fullest extend of the law. Unacceptable
@@FransceneJK98 lol
@@FransceneJK98 it’s ppl like you that cause others to go commit mass shooting look how yall treating him
@@Kronoscyl look in the mirror if you want to see something really funny lol
@@FransceneJK98 FASCIST !
This happened to a friend of mine in high school. He had a pocket knife in his truck. He got suspended for a month. Nicest kid ever, he would never hurt anyone, had the knife because he did ranch work. They treated him like a criminal.
Things like that are why people go off the deep end. Get treated like trash for an honest mistake.
@@IratePirate28 Honest mistake of bringing a gun and bullets into your school? No
@sam_9228 well he was honest in the video and it was a mistake to bring a gun to school
@@sam_9228 well i mean in this case it was an honest mistake he didnt know it was illegal
@@sam_9228 he didn’t bring it in
The way the officer dealt with Rosen was amazing. He was very patient, sympathetic and the fact that he took the time to try and calm the kid down honestly you couldn’t have asked for more. It was a very scary situation but the way it was handled was wonderful. More cops should learn from this officer.
Rosen was just exercising his 2nd amendment right to bear arms. I don't see what the big deal is.
Oh ya, I see bullets fly out of pockets & fly around by themselves all the time! 😂😂😂
@@RobbieStacks90are you fng serious? Over 600 mass shootings in schools this year alone. Over 8.000 gun deaths in the us THIS YEAR ALONE. Fock your second amendment right. Guns dont belong in schools. PERIOD.
It was a very scary situation 😱 😱 😂 ☠️
@@RobbieStacks90 The description said 'he was later arrested for having a deadly weapon in a school safety zone.' I got suspended from HS for 3 days bc i had a pack of cigarettes on my front seat and a teacher walked by and saw them- I was like this kid here bc not until i got in trouble did i learn the hard way that my school was super serious about being a 'tobacco free zone.' Id thought by keeping them outside the building that i wasn't breaking that rule but since my car was in the school parking lot, on school property i was punished.
Good police officers here. It's sad, but I love to see the honesty and compasion they treated him with. Such an odd situation though
no such thing as a good police officer
@ethantobias792 that's a terrible response I hope you seek mental help 🤙
They were lining him up for an easy prosecution, and even admitted as much.
Kid was ill-informed, but they were using his learning impairment to their benefit.
Also, chain-of-custody of the evidence (.22LR into his glove lol) will make a good lawyer very happy. Incompetent cops waste courts time.
@@TheGonzogibby this kid should have stopped answering questions and asked for a lawyer when he got into the office.
@@ethantobias792 What is wrong with you? No offense
Dude snitched on him self and told them he had a gun in his car 🤣
They probably would have searched the car regardless.
@@rashwal82 Not if he didn't tell them "oh yeah, that's my bullet!"
Why is this an issue ?
I actually feel sad listening to this young man saying that the cops don't do anything to protect him. This epidemic of these mass shootings is taking its toll on our children.
Agreed, but the solution is not students bringing more guns to school.
@Me video makes it obvious that no one cares to protect the kids. Rather find anyway possible to control them.
@@Me97202 no, the solution is to have faculty bring more guns to school.
@@littleone8195Kids are the shooter crazy!
the kid did this for attention
You know, props to this kid for being honest about it. And props to the police for the chill reaction.
He lied so many times.. zero props given.. kids a pathological liar obviously. Everything he talks about is that he’s afraid of life, afraid of someone fighting with him, afraid of fighting someone bigger potentially “people are always itching to fight ya know! So the gun is like a pacifier and soother for me” .. literally what he said.. he said if someone approached his vehicle in a road accident and the guy is bigger he would immediately pull out his gun.. this kid is ITCHING to kill someone clearly ..
@@SamuellaOchoriossounds like ur just very afraid of guns in general, just because people own guns doesnt mean they want to go on a killing spree
but what do i know, i cant change someones opinion on the internet that wont listen
wtf no props to this kid. gun owners should know gun laws.
@@carlietucker9738 Are you serious right now He litearlly scared of a school shooting and wants to be safe who wouldnt bring a gun for safety????
@@Nationeternalyeah but the percentage of people who bring guns to school who do want to go on a shooting spree is much higher than the general gun owner
The cop that walked him out is an absolute amazing person.
The kid kept trying to talk to him and we was doing his best to be like "Stop. Don't talk to us. It does no good. Could make it worse."
wanna lick his arse of sumething?!
Go give him a kiss if he’s so amazing
@@reallydreamz7213 i would gladly
@@bourgeoisie-v4p me too fool.
Facing a year in prison is nuts 😂 I graduated in 2020 and kids would accidentally have rounds in their backpacks from hunting earlier in the day on the first day of deer season. They’d go to the main office turn them in and diffuse the situation and that was it, some of that school staff had it out for that kid from the remarks they made alone.
All of these idiots from the coast don't know how life is in the Midwest and South. So annoying.
I graduated in '09. I went to the hick school full of redneck republicans. And they had zero tolerance back then too. Students carried bullets and knives (usually from the ranch) but if they came to campus with it, it was automatic expulsion pending crimimal charges. A year is pretty appropriate considering the circumstances and what could have happened if they didnt catch a kid posing a potential threat.
I graduated in '08 and had a pocket knife clipped in my pocket some days.
this genius doesnt think its illegal to bring a gun to school. god help this generation.
@@uhhhhh341it's not. They sent him to prison for something that is totally legal. He even said the law is made up and he is correct. Bringing a gun to school is absolutely fine as long as you don't shoot anyone who doesn't give you consent.
The fact that the police cant clear a .22 rifle blows my mind.
They are really only trained to be familiar with their own firearms. And to qualify on them at the minimal level. AKA... Qualifying on a 15 yard range. I may be incorrect on the range distance, but that's what it is in the Navy at least.
I would have felt way more in danger with the gun in the officers hand than in his car.
@@jf895 25yds in PA for one stage rest are 7, 10,15 yds
The quality of law enforcement has dropped dramatically the past 10-15 years.
The fact that you think they need to blows my mind , not paid enough to be a gun smith expert
This was a tough one. My emotions were flip-flopping back and forth over the course of this entire video. But I think my final takeaway is this: I completely understand where the kid's point was coming from, but he is still at fault here. Law-abiding gun owners need to be more vigilant about the carry laws than the rest of the public does.
Or just don’t let anyone know your carrying like most people who conceal carry
Or maybe as someone so young and naive to not be able to make the obvious judgement to not have that at SCHOOL and understand the other factors that come with owning the gun. Like knowing the laws surrounding carrying. Yes he should know. But also he’s too young to be able to completely.
At least he would’ve had a chance
its a gun owners responsibility to know gun laws and he obviously spends time on the dark side of the internet or at the very least watching these videos where people think they know their rights and cops just get tired of them and let them go " see it was a victory I know the law " type videos. Sad this kids life is going to be disrupted more than it already obviously is ( 18 as a junior ) by internet trolls who lead him to think these laws were just policies not actionable or enforceable by law or arrest.
Let me update the American constitution for you:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed unless the government decides otherwise.
I feel bad for the youth of today. This kid clearly articulated that he doesn't feel safe or protected at his own school and that he had enough anxiety to make sure he has a back up plan in case he gets jumped. I think that's the real tragedy here and have to wonder how many other kids are in the same situation.
Well, is it possible he's telling a lie? 🤔
He brought a gun to school. That's a fact. Nothing else matters.
@@dflatt1783even back in 2010 when I was in high school in Mississippi everyone I knew had a shotgun or rifle in their car in the parking lot. Not once did I feel unsafe. Same goes for all of our parents. & to be honest if I was the youth of today and was able to, I’d also have one in my car or trunk in case of an emergency. You will make it to that gun faster than any responding officer in the event of a mass casualty shooting 10/10 times. I’d rather be judged by a jury of my peers than be dead when it’s all said and done.
@@OleMisssno you won't also he changed his story several times
@@OleMisss Yes. That's you. When making rules/laws they apply to ALL people. This is for a reason.
I’d love to see the law.
Everyone in the video was respectful and considerate even the kid until it got to the school principle. What an embarrassment he is to the school.
The school official in the tan jacket in the scene where they where searching the car was in extremely poor taste with the comment, “those are usually the ones that bring guns.” What a biased and discriminatory remark to make from someone who governs these kids day to day and quite alarming.
Agreed
Absolutely unprofessional. Sick smile too.
He wasn't wrong though was he?
Yeah, straight scumbag. Shouldn't be governing or anywhere near children, with that mentality.
Its the truth though?
I went to school in the 80's.
Boys drove trucks to school with gun racks full of guns, daily.
Things change.
America changes with each generation.
Just because it was fine in the 80's doesn't mean it is fine in today's school society.
THIS 👍🏻
So here in Southern oregon we actually have a school gun club they do shooting competition and teach basic rifle marksmanship so yeah its still acceptable today it's just not acceptable by some people
I think it’s partially the video games they play these days.
And everyone of the boys in my school who did it, were farmers who went hunting before school.
We did in the early 90s as well. It's a cultural and societal issue.
He's not wrong. As a student in the 1980's, it was a common sight to see pickup trucks parked in the parking lot, with gun-racks in the back windows, with hunting rifles. No one cared. Even more amazingly (by today's standards), we had a student in 8th grade who brought a rifle to school, and put it in his P.E. locker. The coach confronted him, and he said he was going hunting after school. The coach took it and secured it in his P.E. office, and told him he could come get it after school. No one cared.
This makes me depressed. Our current generation sucks
Back then there weren't so many weak-minded weaklings like we have nowadays
Absolutely, I’m amazed that people think school shooters care about laws. He didn’t induce panic, school shooters do. The law saying someone can’t bring a gun to school does nothing more than prevent self defense.
I was I high school in the late 90’s and I was one that had a gun rack in my truck sometimes with a shotgun and/or rifle in it and parked in the student lot and didn’t think anything about it and nobody cared. Charleston SC if anyone cares.
Key word “back”
Right on for the cop who was kneeling down talking to him in the office about anxiety and everything else
I work in the mental health field and each workplace has offered training in deescalation techniques. I think a lot of the time officers escalate situations by flaunting their power. I usually leave these videos thinking "wow, cops need way more verbal deescalation training" but the way these officers handled this was phenomenal. Especially how they responded when he began to argue and walk away too quickly. Calmly explaining what they needed, what was going go happen, validating his feelings but holding the boundary, managing their own body language, volume and pace of speech. Excellent. Bravo!
exactly I wish all people were treated like this, but unfortunately it seems this is not too common
As someone who is a police officer with CIT and CIT youth training, it doesn't work half the time. most people will do what they want to do.
@@jonwagenaar6313 So what’s your point?
This kid is an example of what *not* to do when you get arrested. Do not speak to the police, exercise your right to remain silent.
This kid is a perfect example of someone who is not competent enough to be a gun owner. He is dangerous and deserves to be arrested!
@@FrostyAlbatross Of course he is not competent, but that doesn't change my point about how to behave when arrested.
he's not all the way there in the head, I don't blame him.
@@FrostyAlbatross Probably wanted to be heard.
@@Sly9192 look, these kids are growing up in a whole different world, you get a smart kid who knows his way around the Internet, you start to learn things. You learn about the scope of the daily atrocity’s that impact our lives and the psyche of those left living. This kid isn’t to be blamed, society is crumbling and this is the result. Do you think this is the only kid that feels unsafe and decides they value their own life over the rules? Kids are bombarded with headline after headline about school shootings. It wasn’t like this back then man, it just wasn’t 😔
ive never wanted to clean someones clock more in my life.
The cop said, “18 year old JR?”
And the school official smirks and says, “Those are usually the ones who bring guns.” What a scum bag.
seriously. shows the mindset.
He was right tho 😂
I’m confused doesn’t that mean he just stated school late he’ll be a 18 yr old senior too right ?!? I’m confused
He would be a 20yo senior.
@@iamdangerous5189 🤦♂he would be 18 to start and finish being a 19 year old
Watching these police officers try and clear this gun is honestly terrifying knowing they have the right to carry their own guns on duty.
I'm gobsmacked that two or three rozzers could not figure out the simple function of a .22 Rimfire lever-action rifle. Something I learned to use to plink targets and hunt small game when I was 8.
I was thinking the same thing!
And the officer that said "Is there anyone in particular you're afraid of" its like hes trying to lead him to saying something wrong, which at the same time is reasonable... but still there is a disconnect there
Owning a firearm doesn't give you knowledge of every type of firearm
Yea I’m absolutly astounded they didn’t even know how to check that a lever action wasn’t loaded. To the point of zip tying the lever up 😂 absolutely blown away they probably should have some sort of firearms familiarization with at least the basic families of common firearm types
Cops showed far more empathy and decency than the school staff. Seems like they couldn't wait to get this kid out. Sad to see that kind of behavior from the people you trust the most to be patient and understanding with your child.
My thoughts exactly.
to be fair the kid brought a firearm to their school. they’re thinking they just need to get him away from the other kids as soon as possible
He should not have brought the gun to school. You're not to bright in this scenario
Why wouldn't staff want him to be expelled over this??? Jfc you think they're supposed to be cool with the lives of kids and themselves being at risk? What a deluded, entitled parent you must be.
@@yeoscore maybe, but they should have shown a little less enthusiasm about possibly ruining one of their student's life
i feel bad for this kid and whatever he has going on at home. he said a lot of the wrong things and made some huge mistakes but has clearly been failed by his parents. the officer asking about anxiety and him denying it really pointed it out. i hope he makes it out and makes good for himself
I went to school in the 60's and early 70's. We traded knives on the playground and most young men had either a revolver or a rifle in their cars/trucks. We also got into fights at times and not one guy ever pulled a knife or a gun. Or ever threatened a teacher. Times sure have changed.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
OK we got it!
@@Spookykidshowlmao Malitia is gonna do a lot against 105 cannon on an ac130.
@deaf2819 leave him alone ! He's obviously mentally challenged lol
@@deaf2819Ok... and? Your point is?
This cop is a LEGEND, obviously empathic person who cares. Love to see it
They always act like your buddy while they're placing you in cuffs. It's part of their training... psychological mindgames. Keep you complacent with nice words while they strip you of your constitutional rights.
Is he lol? Or is he just acting like that to get him to talk.
@@TomA-i4p i would do the same, just keep getting him to talk
Lol... wonder if how the student looks helps the cop be empathic.
He empatheticly took him to jail smh
I got arrested for having a razor blade in my car at school on the first day when I was 16 😐 They treated this guy with so much respect. They walked me through the whole school in cuffs in front of everyone. Congrats to these officers or shame to the one that handled my case.
I believe you
how on earth did anyone know it was in your car?
@Sk0die I smelled like weed so they searched my car.
@@MEasy717so you smoked some a dat papaw leaves?
or was it a perfume your granma bought yous
@@GhostUnderTheLight-bi1ek boffum 😂
Absolute joke. This kid is the last guy I’d be worried about. What a waste of tax money.
Really ? when they interviewed the kid and his dad in Atlanta he convinced the cops he would " never" shoot up a school. You NEVER KNOW who you are dealing with .
Props to the officers and to the kid for being respectful towards each other
His constitution laws have been violated where's the respect in that?
Yeah props for bring a gun to school. What could possibly go wrong?
I’m at a standstill. I feel for the kid. But also for the other students that go to school. How messed up are the times that we live in today . A kid has to have a gun at school to feel safe.
Its sad because adults won't protect the kids like they protect banks, celebrities,politicians etc. With armed security.
Same...the law the law however ..having a gum in your vehicle does nothing...
I mean to be fair in America we have a long history of students being armed and there not being any shootings. Guns keep people safe, not signs and legislation
A gun in your car isn’t likely to protect you against an active shooter inside the school. You would have to leave the school and then go back to your car to get the gun, then go back into the school - which would increase risk 😢
he doesnt have to lmao. and what is a gun in your car gonna do against a shooter? nothing! this is sketchy and he shows alot of red flags of deception
Another thing that I want to point out and say is that being an 18 year old junior does not mean you are dyslexic or behind or anything like that. I was an 18 year old junior and graduated when I was nineteen and it was because of when my birthday fell on.
I’m a 17 year old junior and the 18 year old juniors are weird
The principal mentioned briefly during the suspension to the teen because he is on a 504c plan the superintendent may have liency. 504c plan means he had a learning or physical disability that requires him to be in special ed and gives him until the age of 24 to graduate highschool. He may not have been able to comprehend the severity of his actions and their consequences.
Like people don't have complex life events during young ages. People moved around alot.
@@jessicapena8391 Good point
@@jessicapena8391 This is correct. The implications of this footage even being available and the fact that his name was not withheld doesn't sit well with me
Poor kid. I hope the punishment fits the crime and it does not ruin his life. As for those teachers who made those comments, they need to be fired and held for their poor unprofessional comments behaviors and bullying statements. I’m more upset about their comments then the kid having a small gun in his car outside of the school….
right?! he clearly needs to be comforted about his worries to a professional but its quite concerning admin wasn’t handling it responsibly. i hope his case will be properly handled and props to the cops for being gentle and understanding.
Why poor kid. Bringing weapons to school is a serious crime and major safety hazard. He should be tried in court to the fullest extend of the law. Unacceptable
That’s a lot of assumptions without context. You probably don’t work with children. This boy is obviously very intelligent, and is probably bored in the school system. He likely acts out A LOT in order for comments to be made like that. Do I know that? No, because I don’t have the FULL CONTEXT. Bad teachers are a lot harder to find than you think
@@FransceneJK98 a little .22 pea shooter with 3 bullets, your joking right? its pretty clear this kid wasnt trying to shoot up the school as there is much better weapons to do that.
And from what planet you write that. 📢📢Come to earth, come to earth, come to earth.
That “school official and teacher” or whatever tf they were, were not only extremely unprofessional but disgusting to joke abt such a thing as a school shooting
The looks he had in his face
Idk I thought it was funny. Good teacher 👏 👍
I'd take a teacher with dark humor anyday over emotional whiny brats.
Speaking from experience, there is a lot of kids in high school that do this. This dude basically screwed himself over by making it obvious (leaving a bullet in the school, etc), but him having a .22 lever action rifle in the back of his truck in the parking lot of the school is far from what I consider to be outrageous.
Yeah. He was very naive. He should never have taken the bullets into school, and as long as his rifle was not in plain sight, nothing would have came of it. Is it illegal to bring ammo into a school safety zone? If he didn’t tell them that he had a rifle in his car, I wonder if they still would have searched his vehicle?
Yeah same at my school and same thing happened here and that was 2000s idk why people defend it now. We all knew we would have cops called and i live in oklahoma a town of 2000 people only people that did tho usually were the ones who dropped out too tho.
@@dans2833It's really not outrageous
@@dans2833You make your ancestors ashamed for being so weak and pathetic. Molon Labe
@@dans2833 it was in his truck, it is probably his hobby considering he's in ohio. He mightve left a bullet in his pocket by mistake.
“Am I being detained or am I free to go?” “I need to speak with a lawyer”
Those are the only 2 things anyone should say when speaking to law enforcement ESPECIALLY if they’re innocent
Unless you have a brain and know how to communicate without incriminating yourself.
@@nickwheeler1652That arrogant attitude is exactly what causes people to destroy their defense case because they thought they could not say anything incriminating but in reality they give the interrogator all they need to trip them up and find a contradiction in a story. Always better to prepare your statements first then trying to revise them later and have your credibility brought into question.
@@nickwheeler1652the kid's 18. You'd be sh yourself and unable to form 1 complete sentence, I bet.
@@furrycow9263shhh. You defending a school shooter?
But if you act like one of these "sovereign citizens" arrogantly it only escalates those situations. Unless your caught red handed and it's a big crime. If it's simple and you know your right be respectful and handle it in court. If it's wrongful arrest you should see dollar signs. Either way keep your cool
That cop that stayed and talked with the kid was SO good. He must be a great dad
How compassionate these cops were is amazing! I believe the kid because as a parent of a high schooler I have anxiety, I asked million questions, I’m driving around the school to make sure my kid is safe. Imagine how the kids feel everyday? The staffs at the school are ignorant and ready to attack the innocent ones. Where is your heart? Sad! Thank God for the Officers!
They were making a case against him, everybody in the video wanted to ruin his life. If he just shut up, never talked about the car or the gun, he would have been just fine! Never talk to the police, lawyer up!
parents deal with this issue everyday wondering if I'm sending my child to school and praying they come back safe he should of known that that was not a smart idea he may have felt uncomfortable. But look how uncomfortable he made everyone else you nvr know the state of mind of other kids what if someone else knew about his gun and wanted to use it keep our schools and children safe talk more to your children. educate them and yourself seek help from therapy. or get more involved in your community and kids school but claiming to not know and by being ignorant only hurts other ppl. he tried to push the limits even saying he looked up the laws before he brought it to school. thank God they were able to pin point where it came from and no one was hurt
My question is why do u think u arent alarming to someone else ?
@@Derzull2468cops don’t decide charges. Prosecutors do. He is 18. He thinks he knows enough about the law to bring that to school but he doesn’t know enough to say I’d prefer not to answer questions beyond identifying myself? The cops aren’t making a case, HE is.
@@standardnerd9840 He's 18 and he doesn't know everything most adults have 0 clue about? How dare he.
Give him a break, that was the job of the parents and the school to prepare him for adult life, they failed and he buried himself instead of just shutting up. He didn't know any better and was too nice.
The guy who said “18 year old juniors are the ones who bring guns to school” shouldn’t be working around schools or with the community, he just seems like a really terrible person.
I mean like people shouldn't bring guns to school in the first place
@jesterb6793 I agree but that was just unprofessional to say on bodycam knowing your being recorded that's scrutinizing
He simply just wasn’t thinking it through, very loud mouthed person it honestly could’ve just been a light joke for the moment or he totally could be stereotyping kids that get held back or start schooler later.
@@brandonburns2447 yeah that's true
Totally agree - he has no business working with high school kids. Kindergarten would be more his speed.
I’m impressed by the way these officers handling this situation with proper manner and respect.
I agree with that
Had something like this happen at my school. A kid that is known for being a hunter and that’s about it had a 12 gauge in a locked gun box in his truck, and the admins had the police bring a K-9 unit out to sniff all the cars and found his shotgun. he got suspended for a month and it was absolutely ridiculous. I’m sure he forgot it was even in there. No one was worried about it all except for one member of staff that insisted he gets suspended
Sounds like he was being an irresponsible gun owner
@@wolfpack1061 Locked key word mah boi Locked are you ludicrous? that's not irresponsible shooting your gun in the air in a neighborhood is irresponsible. I'd rather have that gun box locked then unlocked as far as bringing a gun to school.. it's a grey area for me liek I get why but no matter the reason you're goanna get fisted and most likely have you're guns taken.
@@MrPanama3x Absolutely nobody gives AF what you think is a gray area - bringing a weapon to school is a felony mah boi
I’m like completely against gun ownership but even I think that’s a little ridiculous
This kid doesn't have anyone at home. Someone who listens. Said his dad is gone a lot. I don't think this kid had any ill will, just misguided and anxious with all of the horrible things happening around us.
Word
He's lost and may have ruined his life before he could mature. His parents have failed him.
@@tangogent
Chill;
Should change your name to tangential;
Right I feel so sad for him
@@alishaparker315 It was only a .22 plinker
Crazy how far things have gotten away from us. Can't imagine what school has been like over the last 10+ years.
It's the same dude. My dad brought guns to school in his pickup n the 70s for bullies. Only difference is back then it was legal.
@@TheBasher-_- do you know where this week's mass shootings were done? I don't keep up with the news!
@@MsTendus what constitutes a mass shooting event for you? The liberal definition of two pos gang bangers shooting up a crack house and hitting a pos crack baby or a real mass casualty event? Sorry if I seem jaded I've watched to much b.s. main stream cnn lately, my brains trying to recover from the b.s.
@@TheBasher-_- I lived in a small town in the 80’s and I saw pickup trucks in the school parking lot with gun racks in the back windows. We never had any problems and no one thought it was wrong.
I have been out of school for 18 years and from what I have been told it's gotten worse.
"those are usually the ones who bring guns" - school admin. You sound like a great person with no bias at all. Exactly who i want pushing the school in the right direction
They usually are
I know you can’t see it, but I disliked your comment
The school administrators and teachers mocking him are horrible.
It's hard to believe nowadays but at 26 years old I still remember students 16 17 18 bringing deer rifles with into school leaving them in their vehicles hunting first thing before school first thing after school it's crazy how much things have changed in such little time
@@HaleyPanton lol what yes you did. Columbine happened way before that if he’s only talking about 10 years ago smh
Yeah, that's what my dad would tell me. Everyone brought rifles to school and left it in their trucks to to hunting afterwards
Sounds like red necks. Thank god times have changed.
@@HaleyPanton back then? There only 26 not 56 lmao even 10 years ago we had school shootings. I'm in my late 30's and we dealt with Columbine, school shootings were rare when I grew up but now it seems like there is a school shooting every other month. I feel bad for the kid but there's zero reasons why he shouldn't have known better about bringing a gun to school just because you hear about school shootings 24/7. You must be really really young to even say that comment lol back then to a dang 26 year old making it seem they are ancient in age 😂😂😂
@@Gurpreet-sv5zg A “RedNeck” will be the first one to run to your aid in an emergency and the last one to leave your side in a battle. God Fearing Americans 💪🇺🇸☝️
20:30 She just says "Come with me" while the cop is mid sentence to him. That kind of dismissive disrespect is one of the things I hated at school. There's no need for it.
Yeah lol exactly. That stuff still goes on in the corporate worlds also. People like that are annoying to deal with.
Yeah I completely agree, the standing that some of the staff have in a school makes them feel like they are much more important than everybody else.
I respect the police for actually being empathic with this guy he obviously wasn’t a shooter this could’ve easily been escalated if they really wanted too
Not a shooter yet but a potential shooter of course.
He “obviously “ wasn’t a shooter?
…..how in the world could you come to that conclusion?
@@EllienollieHis admission of having the gun and ammo and compliance with the police? That's a pretty good reason. A shooter wouldn't be carrying around 2 bullets in their pocket with an unloaded gun kept in their vehicle. A shooter would be walking into a school building gun in hand and immediately start doing their thing, as every other shooter has...
Right, he's not a shooter because he said so. Ever hear of lying?
empathetic*
The cops not knowing how to clear a lever action is so funny
Incredible training resulting in great communication and compassion, blown away by the patience from the officers.
99.9% of encounters go this way. You just never see it because the media only shows the bad cop encounters.
The officers committed multiple felonies and treason.
The guy had a rifle in his car and it was properly stored away. Idk what this is all about.
@@dragonf1092 no, it is illegal to have firearms on school property.
@@Immigrantlovesamericabecause having firearms on school property is illegal, even if it was in his car
If that was truly a teacher that made that joke about “those are the ones that bring guns to school”. He should be fired. He clearly looks down on that kid. The opposite of what that kid needs.
i doubt you have many people that would replace him
teachers are humans. he has a right to be concerned about a kid bringing bullets in his pockets & a gun in his truck... be reasonable
he could also be dyslexic and actually more intelligent than the them but dyslexics have different learning needs.. Albert Einstein was dyslexic.
The teachers know that kid better than you do. They obviously legit feel like they stopped a school shooter for a reason. Just cuz you fell for the kid's innocent act doesn't mean everyone else has to
18, junior and a trumper
Officer Jason might be one of the most respectful police officers ive ever seen. God those were A+ interpersonal skills.
this!
@@alexandergrushevsky4528 yeah but Uh why did the cops ask the staff if he should be in handcuffs
COPs are better at dealing with Kid than school Admin. Wow.
That principal COMPLETELY changed his demeanor. "At minimum it would be a 10 day suspension with possible expulsion" to "I"m pushing for your expulsion"
With the recent events and facts do you blame him? What if you were responsible for 100's of kids at once.
He's 18 years old and in 11th grade. He doesn't need school. He needs a full-time job. LMAO !!
@@coryschallert8915 it’s a .22 rifle
@@sandlotkrew8778 there’s also things called learning disabilities, not everyone exceeds in school.
@@Ih8you Stop making excuses for him. And if he does have a learning disability least of his concerns should be owning a gun at 18.
A lot of respect to the guy who sits there and actually talks to him 15 mins in
People like Ms. Ferguson are real heroes that need respect. The way she handled the situation and explained to the young man about the paperwork was way better than the principal. I feel like the principal must wear his emotions on his sleeve
Nah they shouldn’t be pressuring the kid to sign anything without his lawyer. She’s also just taking advantage of his youth and naivety
@@TestingTestTest-zr5jb He's not a kid. It is not the cops or prosecutions job to educate a potential suspect on their legal rights. Once Miranda rights are provided, if he is still willing to talk to them, that is literally on him. We are all responsible for enacting our own rights once we turn 18. If you want to blame anyone for him not knowing his right to ask for an attorney at 18, blame our education system and help make that change. The officers and prosecution are just doing their job as they would with any other suspect.
Huh? She didn’t really do anything… what are you talking about
The higher one rises in business and industry the less about the business/industry one knows.
The principal is a loser
Privilege of bringing weapons to school???? What planet did he come from?
It’s in his car, what’s the problem 💀💀
@@metaslavery7999 the parking lot is still on school property
@@cdrizzy69 you used to be able to bring guns to school, and back then there weren’t any school shootings, now schools are gun free zones and now they are shot up all the time. Doesn’t seem like a gun problem, seems like a mental health issue
@@metaslavery7999 that’s literally the problem
@@helene894 used to be able to bring you gun into school, and back then there wasn’t any school shootings 👍
I know that shootings in school are a terrible and recurring issue, and unfortunately, the kids feel the need to protect themselves because the system has failed them, however bringing a gun to school even if it's in your car, and expecting people to believe that you won't do anything wrong is obviously not how it works, I do feel for the kid because his heart seemed to be in the right place, but he had to know that having bullets with him and bringing a gun to school property is not legal.
True. I went to school in South Carolina and remember kids in high school would bring guns to school in their gun racks attached to their trucks. Nobody saw it as something awful. It was either cool or piqued curiosity. This was just back in the 90s. Back then there were still beaches where you could sleep overnight and nothing would happen. We can't do any of that anymore though.
Objectively you can't hurt someone with a gun if the gun is not in your hands and away from you.
So NO having a gun in your car isn't wrong.
@@marcostorres2329 why not? I just slept at the beach with my girl the other night
@@Justahatinassni66a which beach? I'm talking about back when people would sleep at the beach in NY or other big cities. There would be a lot of people enjoying their time in the middle of the night and now all that is gone because crime went up.
@@marcostorres2329 I live in sf 🤓
I feel bad for the kid. When I was his age I was a huge firearm fanatic and also worried about school shootings. I had little siblings that went to the same school as me and I always told myself that if that ever happened, I would protect them with my life. Its different times now :/
yeah im worried for my little brother hes going into 1st and im going into 6th grade so we will be in different schools
@@dantthemanwishing you both safety and prosperity in your studies!
@@dantthemanI’m praying for you and your brother. This just made me so sad.. it sucks that you and your little brother don’t even feel safe at a place that’s supposed to be safe for you guys.
So what will having your gun in your car OUTSIDE do? The whole school will be on lockdown and even if you leave and come back in with a gun that wouldn’t be a good idea if an officer sees you not knowing if you’re the shooter or not…
there’s absolutely no need to bring a gun to school.
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Kid was super compliant there was no reason for the principal to be so harsh
Principal probably hates guns and people who own them
He wasn't super compliant. Sure, he didn't actively resist being arrested, but he 1) argued with the staff and refused to sign the paper saying he understood what they were accusing him of (which they repeatedly confirmed was not an admission of guilt), and 2) denied that what he did was illegal, and upon being shown the statute, then claimed the police made it up and he was being arrested on false charges. This is not the behavior of a compliant individual of sound mind.
I've seen a school shooter also being very compliant one day and some time later he shot up his school.
@@Bung_HolioWhich makes sense, if you have any idea of what's going on in the US.
@@schmal911also he was lying when he said it’s a comfort thing…his body language screamed liar.
Major respect to the police on this case. School admin didn’t take a second to talk or listen to the kid. He was in the wrong, but I completely get where he’s coming from.
School admin, and anyone working in the school district, is going to be harsher on him than the police officers. I kinda think i know why. Its just an assumption of mine. But i think its the difference in political ideals and upbringing. Alot of people who go into teaching lean left.
Just doing some quick digging and the administrator who was acting principal because the former resigned is a very hard leftists..took me 2 minutes 2 find him on their staff then checked his FB..of course he went hard on the kid because he doesn't believe in gun ownership he says it on his FB...
@@randomspace6491 great point
@@justinmcelhaney5591the dudes honestly pathetic. Kid meant no harm & he certainly isn’t shooting up any school with a small game rifle. It’s awful that political views dictate someone’s life in this sense.
@@randomspace6491That and the whole ordeal is bringing him a lot of extra work, stress and probably media publicity to the school. Just an all around headache to deal with
Quite frankly the kid has a point. They are defenseless
But having a gun in a safe in the trunk of your car isnt going to protect you when you are in class in lockdown
@@desensitizedif you manage to get out it will. Why limit your possibilities? Everyone's sitting ducks until someone gets a chance. Wtf are you talking about
@@kavalogue you would run back in towards the danger after managing to escape? that just increases your chances of getting shot because a cop might mistake you for the shooter
@@derekdunes9851yes I would. And I took took a gun to my school just like this kid for my junior and senior year.
@@kavalogue If you manage to get out you arent going to stand at your car opening a safe, you are going to be dipping the scene.. "Wtf are you talking about" make it make sense lmaoo
I honestly feel for this guy. Good job to the arresting officers for breaking down a tensed situation with their empathetic approach.
People in the comment section behave as like the problem is unimportant, the man shouldn't be detained, and if nothing is done about him and someone gets into his car while it is unlocked and shoots someone, it is his fault.
@@sharker102s its in a safe
The media spins everyone up making everyone scared of school shootings.
This young man was actually scared.
It was absolutely legal for him to have a gun IN HIS CAR.
He is 18, there is nothing illegal about having a gun in his vehicle.
@@sharker102s it’s in a safe.
Tensed situation with no threat only a bullet found? I used to bring a pipe that were made of two bullets to school everyday.
This kid is not a bad kid. I believe he's being very honest when he says he didn't show up with the intent of shooting other people. I also believe he has some challenges when it comes to learning. It's clear as he talks to the officers. But nowhere is there malice or anger in him. I hope this whole incident doesn't adversely affect his life for years, that he gets the help he needs and that he never, ever assumes he knows all the rules when it comes to owning a gun again because it's clear he doesn't. I actually wish him the best in life.
"Those are usually the ones who bring guns" guy is a horrible person. Said it with a smile on his face. He's laughing about a kids age/grade while minimizing the severity of this situation. He should be fired.
Absolutely.
Democrats
Also the kid was on a 504 plan so more than likely he has a learning disability. "If your child has a substantial limitation in one major life activity (learning, walking, seeing, hearing, breathing, etc.) your child may be eligible for a Section 504 plan."
Acting like the cop was wrong
I mean, he's right. 😂