Mission 2.30 Marathon: Episode 1 | Running Training & Tips
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- A while ago, James and Mark thought it would be a good idea to enter the Brighton marathon, it's about time they should start training! James has run a 2:40 before at Challenge Roth... after a 180km bike. Since then though, he's retired from pro triathlon and had plenty of life events that have stopped him from training so he's aiming to work back up to his personal PB. Aaaand Marks attempting the same!
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Join Mark and James for this series as they work their way through this short training plan to try to accomplish a 2:30 or better time for the Brighton marathon. With less than 2 months to go, it's going to be intense!
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That marathon pace is faster than my intervals pace! 😂🤣😂🤣
I'm very excited to follow this series because I am also training for a sub 2:30 marathon at the Berlin marathon in September! My current pb is 2:39:28 which I ran in May 2021without carbon plated shoes.
Nice, what di you run on the 5k, just interesten😅
@@ingmarneple6072 I ran a 15:49 5k yesterday ;)
@@jaspermcdowell229 dude you ran 15:49 and 2:39??? I guess I am terrible at the 5k haha
This is exactly the content I've been waiting for after the series following Dan Lloyd and his Half Marathon training!
Good luck at Brighton. I’ve run it twice and it’s a tough course with some strong winds. 2:30 is an impressive target and a potential top 10 results based on previous years 💪
I'm looking forward to this series. I'm trying to run a sub 2:35 in October (creeping towards 2:30) so I'm interested to see the different paces run in the intervals.
Crazy fast marathon goal, but looking forward to follow the updates.
This sounds fun! Looking forward for updates 👏🏼👏🏼
Feel like Mark is happy to finally have a fast leg to run together haha
This is gonna be awesome!!!! 💪💪😀
Cracking goal to go for! looking forward to following along.
This series is gunna be awesome
Great idea!
I have never done a marathon. But I helped in a 100 mile run by running along side a competitor for 50 miles
holycrap. thats nearly double the marathon
The next challenge after this must naturally be: how to run a sub 2:30 marathon after swimming 3.86 and biking 180,2 km. And after that I suggest GTN takes a new shot at that 7:35 world record time :)
Thanks, this is cool, but the plan you’ve shared isn’t the one you discussed in the video. Max volume in the published version is 87km vs the 100+ km version you discussed on the video. Will you share the real deal with us so we can follow along?
Impressive goal
So excited for this series and have full confidence in your ability to reach the ambitious goal. Really appreciate the coaching insights James brings from his days as a pro. Quick question, how would you change the training plan based on the marathon course? For example, if the course is very hilly, would you suggest completing certain workouts on a treadmill / incline or adding in hill repetitions?
Nice. Looking forward to this. Good luck guys.
Love this! Good luck guys
Hey idk if you ever read these comments, but here goes:
1) you need more long runs with chunks at or FASTER than MP
2) you need more volume at lactate threshold pace (half marathon pace)
3) 10k pace doesn’t do anything for you. Biomechanically it is similar to half marathon pace, but because it is waaay past the lactate threshold it is too tiring to get a lot of volume at this pace
Thanks Mark. We do read the comments but only reply to the constructive ones ;)
All your points are valid and appreciate the input. The posted program is a 'skeleton structure' of what we're actually doing, trying to make it relevant to as many people as possible because, as you'll know, no two people should be on identical programs. We hope ours takes into account our personal strengths and limiters. But we'll probably only know after the race...
@@jamescunnamaGTN to be fair, I read your plan before I watched your video. I didn't realize that you are both coming from more of an endurance background, it which case the faster 10k reps make more sense. Best of luck with your goal! I have a pretty similar time goal, so I will be excitedly following your progress!
Once upon a time I set a goal of a 2:30, yeah that wasn’t going to happen for me haha. I ran a 2:49, that’s good enough for me. I “retired” from competitive marathoning haha. Maybe I could knock off a few more minutes, but I don’t think I could get to 2:39, so I’m all set.
Brilliant, pretty cool to see you guys putting yourselves out there with legit goals.
Going to be epic following this… hope you both achieve your goals, but either way looking forward to following your progress as I’ve struggled with hitting my marathon goals…
Looking forward to this series, should be good. That target race pace 😳
Sure gonna follow your guys progress from over here in Brazil.
Nice to see you setting challenging goals
2:30 is my aim for this year as well , big ask but may as well set tough goals !
*Sips tea* I’ll stick to my 4:30km pace!! You lads are mad 😮
*Sips tea* I'll stick to my 5:30km pace. You're mad
@@SirAdammmmm 100% a more comfortable pace!
@@SirAdammmmm sips tea to my 5:50km pace. you're mad
Hi! Thank you for all you do GTN! Personally your videos help me a lot! Quick question! I’m running my first ever marathon in 12 weeks time, my aim is to complete it! Is the table you posted good for me to follow? I also am part of a tri club and want to keep up the training with them, can I do my long runs on Saturday and go for a Sunday ride the next day? Thank you!
Can you explain the abbreviations in the workout? For instance the intervals. (10x20s) can you explain the breakdown?
Sounds like a great challenge.
Crazy! But we need crazy targets in our sport life!
Great video!
Thanks for sharing the training plan!
At what pace do you run your easy runs, and is the pace determined by heart rate or race pace?
Weekly “mileage”, but it’s in km? ;)
Kilometerage just doesn't have the same ring ;)
Did you forget about this?
Looking at the plan: how the hell can you run 42 km in 2.30 if you do maximum 10km at marathon pace in the training??
The long runs in the later weeks appear to be good prep... eg: "34km as 12km easy; 8km at MP+40s/km, 6km at MP+20-30s/km, 4km at MP+10-15s/km, Remainder easy"
We are also doing a slightly beefier plan, which I wouldn’t recommend to most on such a short time frame. But in essence it is very similar
@@markthrelfall3577 Can you add the actual plan, then maybe leave this as a suggested plan, seems misleading to say the plan is available below when it is different.
@@woody369 it’s more or less the same. We appreciate that a very small percentage would be aiming to run 2:30, therefore we have spent time making small adjustments to it. Therefore making it actually useful for most viewers. Volume changes very little
Kudos for the good vid. Been watching gtn for two years now, i have a lot to thankyou for. I have a question about the program yog guys have given, 10k as 10x20s at MP 40s RJ. Does this mean you do a 10k run then do the intervals with 40s RJ inbetween. Thanks from Mallorca 👊🏻👍👍🏻
Yeah. I had the same question. Cause the math doesn’t add up if the “s” means seconds. That first interval they would be running a 10k in 10 minutes.
Will you be maintaining any swim and bike workouts while training for the marathon? Plan looks decent too.
Can somebody explain how does this work: 3x(800m at MP, 90s rec/ 2km at MP with 2 min rec)? Is it you run 800m then rest, then run 2 km and rest. And then repeat it 3 times? Or you run 3 times 800m and then add a single 2km on top?
Second option seems more in line with the intensity level of other sessions, but according to brackets 1st option should be correct
any updates or have you guys dropped this plan?
Will you be doing any swimming and biking along side the marathon training?
3:33 minute/km. Yeah, I'm good, thanks. :)
You basically have nine weeks to get ready for a full Marathon, that's cutting it close 🙂.
Just looked at the training plan. At no point is there any consistent running at MP, all the long runs are MP+xsecs. Surely it’s not possible to run at MP for 42k if you have not run it for even 5k? Confused.
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Mark, could you explain how to work out your 5km and 10km pace based on your Marathon goal? - because I see you suggest using you 5/10km pace as a reference on the training plan. Thanks!
You can look up MacMillan online race predictor, itll give you some paces for reference
It’s my birthday today. Going for Sub-3. Wish me luck!
Good luck!
@@gtn 3:11:47. I’ll get it next time, just wasn’t my day!
Marathon nutrition is the hardest 😭
When ep 2 going to air?
The goal seems a bit too ambitious with respect to the volume of training presented in the plan. I guess it will all depend on the level of the runner entering the plan. My point is that I doubt you go from 2:40 to 2:30 with this plan. You would need more mileage than presented here. But again, we’ll see 🙂
of course you could be right, but when james ran his 2:40 in his IM, i am pretty sure he could have run 2:30 as a standalone Marathon(on full energy stores). so he doesn't need to go from 2:40 to 2:30 but rather just execute what his body his body is able to. obviously he needs to get economic on this new, faster pace. and as he is retired, he probably is not as fit as he was.
What does it mean by:
10km as 10x20s at 5-10km pace, 40s jog?
I know it means run 20 seconds at 5-10km pace with 40 seconds rest and the repeat 10 times but this doesn’t add to 10km does it? What do you do to fill the other distance with?
Thanks!
The total session is 10km, including warm-up, intervals and cool down. It should probably read 10km 'with' 10x20sec. Sorry for our bad grammar. Most of that 10km should be on the warm-up side of the session.
3:33! Я 3км так не бегаю😟
Just bought you 2 minutes @mark. James said 2:30 too, or was it 2:32?! I think it was the latter 😀
Sub 2:30 marathon off a peak volume of 100km/week? Sensible to not ramp the mileage too much too soon... Though i hope that volume gives you enough - I'd have expected nearer 100mi/week peak.
there should not be a point in running a 15km or 22km in training for marathon. If you are comfy in the pace for 15km and you can accelerate or keep the distance further, you just have the endurance build in without damaging the body enterily. Still there is a space for additional sports and activities to embrace the body for marathon on asphalt.
What happened to that dude from GCN who was doing the Marathon?
He got injured. He’s on the Tour de France coverage now, so probably very busy. Plus he likes a beer or three, so... I doubt he’s running much at the moment.
That’s my 5k pace 🤣
Is this meant as a joke?? Do you really plan to PB a 2:30 marathon with average ~70km per week? I wish you all the best of course and it will be amazing if you do it but the training plan looks like a good training plan for a 10k or half at that pace :-). In any case, good luck!
Yeah, incredibly optimistic to say the least 🤣 should be probably be averaging at least 70 miles a week, peaking at around 100.
Poor Mark, cant finish a sentence...keeps getting interrupted by James!
What is 2.30 marathon?
a marathon (42.2 km) in 2 hours and 30 minutes
@@Regimeshifts thanks
way too ambitious
Be interested to see what s&c you guys incorporate into the plan?
Applicable to 4% of viewers 😬
4? More like 0,04%.
Motivational for 99%!
(I sadly can’t run and fart at the same time)
No chance. This is unrealistic. They would basically already be in 2:30 shape if they are 2 months out. They would already have major base built by this point. Basically click bait video
For the record: I don't think Mark can do that :)
I appreciate the confidence 😂 nor do I, but I’ll damn we’ll give it my best shot
@@markthrelfall3577 you got it dude, you've done far crazier things! Get it!!
@@markthrelfall3577 what I'm trying to do is called "reverse psychology" 🙂
2:30 per km ? Seems like impossible! Can someone explain me?
It's 3:33/km...
2h30 for the marathon.
Actually it's 3:33/km for a marathon in 2 hours 30 minutes
edit: Well... That's already insane!
@@richardsimkiss thank you hahah 😅
They want to run a marathon in 2 hours and 30 minutes which is an average pace of 3 minutes and 33 seconds per km