Dorothy Kilgallen Media Star-The Woman Who Knew Too Much, that it cost her, her life.
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- Dorothy was so well known that she was parodied on The Flintstones in the character Daisy Kilgranite. Notice how Daisy "what's my lines" Wilma over the phone. Milton Berle stated to Dorothy on his show, "stop what's my lining me." One of Dorothy's most famous lines was, "Is it bigger than a bread box?"
![What's My Line? - James Kilgallen [Dorothy's father!]; Nanette Fabray (Nov 18, 1956)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/awvassUXswE/mqdefault.jpg)
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I always loved to watch +Dorothy Kilgallen+ on What’s My Line?
It doesn’t look like she took her own life. Forever Remembered🙏
Forever Missed🌹Forever Loved💕. R.I.P. DOROTHY R.I.P.
Yes, thank you
This video was excellent. It brought back so many memories of my family, back when television was new and a Sunday night ritual where my family would sit around together watching the one black and white TV in our house. I still remember my mother crying when Walter Cronkite announced the president's murder. It still seems like our world was never the same afterwards. Dorothy must have been getting too close to the truth, then paid the ultimate price.
Sadly, she did pay.
I also remember my mother crying. I was 3 years old. It was 12 noon in Montana at the time. It was one of the first memories I ever had. 😢
Great video. Well-made, thanks for posting it.
She had a four story apartment and she sleep in her bedroom in the four floor, in the second floor there was a bedroom for her friends and people she invited. She was found in the second floor bedroom lying on the bed with a book over her chest, like she was reading, but her reading glasses were over the night stand, not on her eyes. Rest in peace Dorothy, one day, hopefully, the Kennedy assassination will be reveal.
Andrés Paz she was found on the fourth floor, a bedroom she never slept 🛏 in.
She was reading a book she finished reading weeks earlier and it was a five story townhouse, not a apartment
Her body was discovered on the third floor. She always slept on the fifth floor. Sources are reports from the medical examiner’s office and the NYPD. You can skim through Mark Shaw’s two books about Dorothy.
@@kelloggs5473 Or you can just read the HSCA's investigation which found no sign of foul play.
@@aaronz7056 Or you can send a snail mail letter to Jacqueline Hess. HSCA documents and books identify her as the committee member who was in charge of mysterious deaths. Ms. Hess can tell you all she did for Dorothy Kilgallen was obtain her death certificate and autopsy report. She can tell you she did not contact anyone who had worked at the medical examiner’s office in 1965 such as chemist John Broich. Ms. Hess can tell you she did not communicate with any human beings who had known Dorothy Kilgallen or who had worked with her mortal remains. An autopsy report is not a human source. When the HSCA existed, many witnesses were middle-aged, not old, and they were never contacted.
The line "Is it bigger than a breadbox" was attributed to Steve Allen, a fellow panelist of Dorothy's on "What's My Line?" Over time, the line became symbiotically linked to the show and references to the line became a running gag of sorts - just as she is using it here, along with many other standard lines of questioning from WML?..
She was immensely popular and just a few words from Dorothy in her column, or her radio show.. or just conversation with contemporaries in general could make or break a star. She was quite the powerhouse in her day.
Anyone who's done any level of in depth reading on the subject can rightly surmise that her death was not just an accidental overdose. So many little things 'out of place' or overlooked throughout the investigation.. She knew too much, and never dreamed that someone would want to 'off' her because of it. Even then the Deep State had their ways. Rest in well deserved Peace, Dorothy - Your reputation will indeed, always be.. far bigger than a breadbox.
I think she was " aware" of her life being in danger,as author Mark Shaw,mentions that was afraid for her life,and was going to get a gun,for " protection." The circumstances of her death,are " out of sync," and the fact that her notes re the Assassination of JFK,were Not found," speaks volumes." I would surmise,Ms.Kilgallen,was quite informed regarding the" actual" situation of the President Kennedy assassination,and was planning to reveal such,in a book she was" wrapping up," to complete,before her " unusual of circumstance" of death.
It was “not just an accidental overdose” AT ALL! It was MURDER by the same people who killed JFK. One day, it will be revealed. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Always my favorite panelists, a brilliant woman, a dogged investigator but getting close to the CIA usually gets people hurt.
Hurt or worse, every time.
I've always thought it was interesting that John Daly's father-in-law was the one-time Supreme Court's Chief Justice, Earl Warren (Warren Commission).
I Play One On T.V. Perhaps he knew who killed Dorothy Kilgallen
I Play One On T.V. I never knew that, boy that is interesting. I have never seen that information anywhere. Thanks!
@@dayzemae9015 She was his second wife, married in 1960 - "Wikipedia."
Yes, a more than strange association.
"Is it bigger than a bread box?" was coined y Steve Allen while a What's My Line panelist.
Love this video! Thanks for posting :)
Cracking wise until the very end. "Are you sure about Tony Randall?" "I thought you were going to say something about a forward pass"...
Dorthy was always full of wit
Happy Birthday Dorothy
That last night Dorothy’s face looked puffy and different for some reason.
She was buzzed, that's why.
Around 50 people who knew too much and were too openmouthed about the JFK assassination died mysteriously within a few years.
"Mysterious deaths list" is an hilarious hoax where everybody on it either had little or no connection to the case or else their causes of death were misreported to sound more "sinister."
@@aaronz7056 who do you think you are fooling?
@@nielskjr5432 Nobody, but the makers of that silly bogus list have apparently fooled you.
@@aaronz7056Yes, I've read the book Hit List, or most of it. I forgot the writer's name, but he's also a well known actor.
It's a very disturbing read.
@@aaronz7056 his name is Richard Belzer.
Co writer David Wayne.
READ IT!!
Very interesting👍
I was a college student 4 blocks from the White House on the day JFK was murdered. Did not fully understand what really happened until 1966.
Just like Marilyn Monroe overdosed.....NOT
EXACTLY
Yes. Very similar deaths. Very similar connections.
Miiton Was bigger than a bread basket😇
Her fellow panelists were cowards all. They all knew damn well she was murdered.
Neil Harte so true. And they acted as if she never existed after she died
Friends and family alike never really talked about her or her death. I suspect they were genuinely and justifiably frightened for their own lives--and do you blame them? After all, the theory is that the mafia is behind the murder of JFK, and then murdered the prime suspect, and then murdered Dorothy who suspected the scheme and threatened to make it known to the public. After 50+ years, no one has ever identified exactly who was behind all those associated murders, so it surely was someone with extraordinary power and influence, and the WML panel and Dorothy's family and friends were justifiably frightened.
Well done.
Y is sound so low?
It was Steve Allen who coined that. Bigger than a breadbox. Not Kilgallen.
True, but they all used that line in their questioning at one time or another. One time, Arlene Francis asked "is it bigger than Steve Allen's breadbox?"
It's getting closer sure is yep
Smith met one person who flashed some ID at him he never even saw clearly and the man certainly never claimed to be a Secret Service agent. He could simply have been any of the scores of officials swarming all over the place after the assassination.
Here is why Dorothy Kilagallen was not murdered:
A) Jack Ruby could have come forward with any public statement he wanted to either during or after his public trial... and never attempted to blow any conspiracy.
B) It's vastly implausible Ruby would have told this journalist he didn't know anything sinister and never say it to anybody else.
C) Kilgallen's exchanges with Ruby were only going to be part of a much larger book on other trials she had covered she wasn't planning on publishing for months, hardly an urgent expose.
D) Kilgallen was never attacked or silenced for some 19 months afterwards.
E) Her trademark boasting aside, if Kilgallen was in possession of any info that was going to blow the lid off any coup, she was sure in no hurry to do anything with it. Perhaps her regular game show gig was more urgent business.
F) Kilgallen was hardly less high-profile a person than Kennedy himself. Killing her just becomes another murder, requiring dealing with more suspicion, more suspects, more evidence, more investigation, more publicity.
G) Police at the time and the HSCA later investigated her death and found no evidence for murder.
H) The idea of some sinister assassins breaking into her place with her family at home and forcing pills down her throat is ludicrous.
I) It's highly unlikely Ruby could have told her anything that could not plausibly be dismissed as more crackpot B.S. from a kook.
J) It makes little sense that it was urgent business to wipe out this TV celebrity but nobody ever touched all those crackpot conspiracy authors who spent years and years crowing loud and long about how they were going to blow the conspiracy wide open...
He death was never investigated as a homicide. Several people involved in her life were never interviewed by police. It was easier to go with the “suicide” or accidental overdose. If it were a man they found dead, there most likely would have been an investigation. In today’s context, Dorothy’s bombshell of connecting Ruby to Oswald and the mob and eventually the Kennedys would have destroyed the government’s lone assassin narrative, which for that time period would have been a huge deal.
@@dcinsc7 What did I literally just say above?
@@aaronz7056 A bunch of opinion.
@@dcinsc7 In that case we look forward to you explaining it all away.
@@aaronz7056 What did I just literally say above?
Can anybody make out what Dorothy says at 12:07 “oh I thought you was going to say something about ....... ..... “ ?
I can make out what Dorothy says. Her joke depends on the beauty of What's My Line? contestant Elinor Kaine. Her line was "football writer." You noticed those details about Elinor, right? Her segment ends, she shakes hands and exits the soundstage. Then John Daly starts the round of "goodnight" messages to viewers. Here we go with the words you are trying to understand.
Bennett Cerf says, "I just want to say one thing about that pretty football writer. She better dig up a field goal kicker for the New York Giants or it's gonna be too bad."
Dorothy's quick reply : "Oh, I thought you were going to say something about a forward pass."
That's just it, they weren't. Conspiracy theorists never get around to explaining how some coup knows it can safely approach scores and scores of witnesses, police, FBI, Secret Service, military personnel, doctors, ballistics experts, staffs at embassies in another country, Oswald family members, x-ray technicians, photographers, the D.A., the Chief Justice, whole commissions, congressmen, lawyers, senators, etc., and persuade them all to obey illegal orders and bend over backwards making themselves all loyal accessories to murder and treason....
DOROTHY was type if you like her she liked YOU. It's sad her husband even committed suicide MY GOD her POOR SON losen both parents. AND Secretary also dies days LTR definitely cover up.by luminarti
You are correct. Coverup indeed.
That family actually had a lot of drama within it. The son, Kerry, was actually the son of Dorothy with Johnnie Ray. After Dorothy's death, Richard Kollmar basiscally disowned Kerry. They presented themselves as the wholesome family, but there was some undertow beneath the surface of the water.
Have you done *ANY* reading on this case? That idea is blatantly crackers. Jackie only said "It isn't Jack" in relation to the dead man in the casket not being the living, breathing husband she had loved, not because she thought it was somebody else's body in the coffin!!!!!! lol
@@aaronz7056 Have YOU done any reading about the cover-up of President John F. Kennedy? Both Mrs. (and former First Lady!!) Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy and the President 's brother Robert F. Kennedy stated in their own words that it wasn't John F. Kennedy in the casket !! But with all that had happened, including even the above mentioned (to stay alive, realising the severity of this assassination) they knew they had to tred carefully !! Next to that, the wife of police-officer Tippit expressed about the same thing about the man in the casket of where she expected to see her deceased husband !! "That he didn't even look like her husband. What's known about officer Tippit is that he had a nickname, namely "JFK". This, because of the facial likeness he had with the President - in spite of his Dark hear and being younger in years...
And when mr. Trump was in office at the White House, there was the year where hidden documents concerning the assassination were going to be released. Again, not all were released - just a part. I remember that they presented on the internet THE SKULL(!!) of President Kennedy. It was filmed in black and white and the skull was without the hair, skin or anything inside of the skull. They moved in upward and layed in down. And in a flowing movement they played that part over and over again. The exit-part of the bullet, missing also a part of the skull was consistent with a shot from the front. Now, with all they can create in Hollywood and people in that line of work who can mimic things like that... Why would they suggest to have what was left of the President 's skull...??🤨 And if it actually WAS his skull, what did they do with it 'cause it was filmed in black and white !! The only morbid conclusion is that they placed his head in a certain liquid to dissolve all flesh to then preserve the skull. If THAT would be the case who's head or complete body would have been placed in the casket of the President...
Still laughing out loud ?? Why don't I give you a few suggestions ?! Google and watch : "John Coleman, the committee of the 300". "From JFK to 9/11, it's a rich men's trick ". "Follow the money, about 9/11". "Two men in Dallas ". I sincerely hope you and others who read this WILL watch this, all of it !! And then there's, with proof through authentic documents, still more that adds up to it. Find out in what kind of a world we're living in.
Become well informed. And mind you, including the ones with information following up on these documentaries... Most of them, after having spoken out of a strive for justice, died not long after !! Just so you know.
Sincerely in Christ Jesus, 💖🕊️
Dorothy and her husband had been married for 25 years. I think it's a reasonable presumption that he was her confidant !! He remarried... to after 6 years after Dorothy 's death (leaving behind three children 🤨) commit suïcide ?? No way, he knew too much !! Just as in the case of Dorothy's secretary who, 2 years after Dorothy's death, ended up dead !!👀 Kust as Dorothy they died, let's say, before their time 💯‼️😖 💐💐💐
Sincerely in Christ Jesus, 💖🕊️
Kilgallen was not murdered. You could have done a tribute without pandering to conspiracy nuts.
You sound like quite a nut.
Florence Pritchett Smith was not murdered but Dorothy Kilgallen possibly was.
The woman often referred to as Dorothy’s secretary was never a secretary. She was New York Journal-American columnist Florence Pritchett Smith. Her column was totally about food, recipes for it and the sophisticated New Yorkers who ate it. It appeared once a week. She died following a long bout with leukemia.
Florence’s personal physician signed her death certificate. There was nothing suspicious about it. But Dorothy’s death certificate was signed by a medical examiner, and not the one who had shown up at her death scene, not the one who had performed the autopsy. There you have a suspicious event.
The only details that bloggers sometimes get right are that Dorothy Kilgallen died sometime in the early morning hours of Monday, November 8 and Florence Pritchett Smith died sometime on Tuesday, November 9 before the late-afternoon power blackout. When people say Florence died two days after Dorothy died, they are wrong. It was the next day. When people call Florence a secretary, they are wrong. She and Dorothy may have been friends but not close friends.
The myth about Florence being a secretary and a murder victim originated with the first wild conspiracy theorist : Penn Jones Jr. He lived in Texas when the two ladies died in New York. He never lived in New York.
Mr. Jones never contacted people who had known either of them. He simply read both obituaries, which were nationally circulated, and concluded that both deaths were suspicious.
That's right, Dorothy wasn't murdered. Neither was John F Kennedy. It was a clear case of a self inflicted gunshot wound. 😉
@@kelloggs5473 Smith died after a three-year illness. No evidence either woman was murdered.