What's My Line? - Richard Kollmar [Dorothy Kilgallen's husband!]; Garry Moore (Nov 20, 1955)
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- MYSTERY GUEST: Richard Kollmar (Dorothy Kilgallen's husband, noted film producer and co-host of their morning radio show together, "Breakfast with Dorothy and Dick"); Garry Moore (Comic whose variety show launched the career of Carol Burnett, as well as longtime host of Goodson/Toddman's sister program to WML, "I've Got a Secret")
PANEL: Bennett Cerf, Arlene Francis, Fred Allen, Dorothy Kilgallen - บันเทิง
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Dorothy was such a lovely person. I just love watching her in these videos. She was beautiful, smart, and extremely classy.
I just got a book about her, she was an amazing woman.
Yes❤
@@tamararoberts9307 she sure was. Amazing talented and a very intelligent lady. She passed way too soon. Miss this lovely lady
@@emilyhayek1132
She was murdered.
Look up Mark Shaw on YT.
He has written books on it.
Very credible.
So sad what happened to Dorothy. She had gumption, beauty, and incredible intelligence. Our nation lost a great journalist, and patriot. If she had lived, we would know for sure who murdered our President Kennedy.
Dorothy was so precious and sweet. Such a tragic and mysterious loss when she died.
Just my belief and opinion only, I believe it was an accidental overdose. Very little alcohol and barbiturate reportedly found in her blood. Her husband and a child were reportedly asleep in their townhome. She had such a glimmer. Miss her sharp intellect.
She was MURDERED!
@@debbiemcbride3422 Yes, probably.
yes, it was never solved other than to say that they say that she overdosed , which is such a cop-out and we all know it's not true. We all know she didn't drink or take barbituaites.
@@Redbyrdee No. Her husband died in 1971 and it wasn't from an overdose
What a wonderful program was What's My Line, and it had everything to do with finding four panelists and a moderator who were witty, intelligent, fun. They also played beautifully off one another.
I did not know what to make of Dorothy Kilgallen at first. After watching several of these shows, I have decided she was amazing.
she is so precious, her lil giggles and cuteness always makes me happy
She was a investigative reporter for years 😊
Dorothy def my fave panelist. She looked so lovely here...very happy smiling eyes
Until she was murdered in 1965. It’s so heartbreaking.
Very smart
Dorothy was a investigative reporter for years 😊
"Is it the question of talent rather then sex?"
I got a giggle outta that
I flat out roared.🤣🤣🤣
*rather than (comparative)
Dorothy looked really well may she rest in peace
Gotta love Dorothy taking it to rated X territory an being completely clueless.🤣🤣🤣
Doubt she was clueless at all. She wasn't stupid and pretended to act clueless for class.
@@dickiegreenleaf750 I agree 💯 percent and she was a investigative reporter for years
LOL! I got so confused seeing the panelists in different positions. Funny how I got so accustomed to a certain order, this threw me for a loop.
Me too
And me.🥰🥰
Ditto. They took Bennett from the far right and moved him to the far left, shifting everybody else down by one spot. It's a bit disconcerting.
Dorothy really was a smart woman, allways asking profound questions ;)
21:49 Oh it's not called by your name
Dorothy: Not necessarily, they decided to say it wasn't.
I don't know how this show appeared in my recommendations. I've seen few episodes and this Dorothy is absolute treasure, I absolutely love her!
THAT was seriously funny…Dorothy was a gem.
I never knew anything about Dorothy Kilgallen until I saw these WML videos and started reading about her. I think it's safe to say that she was a more widely known and admired person than any of the other regular panel members. That's saying something, because the others were highly successful with substantial public images.
Richard Kollmar used the same squeeky voice when he was the MG the following years. A good voice since Dorothy failed to recognize him.
That voice was so weird that I thought he was using a voice changing device at first. Then I'm shocked to find that he was doing it himself.
They were hilarious on this episode. Five more witty people playing a parlor game you couldn't find. I thought it must have been difficult for Kollmar to come up with a voice he had never used as a joke at home. Then again, maybe he didn't make so many jokes at home. I thought for sure they'd get Garry Moore's voice when he pretended to be the tough guy from Brooklyn. There were a few cases when his own voice shone through just a little. Sadly, Fred Allen died just five months after this. It's interesting that after Allen and Dorothy died, they were not replaced by new regulars. Steve Allen and Martin Gabel were guest panelists a lot, but not regulars. No woman replaced Dorothy. One might have thought of Betty White or Phyllis Newman as a possibility, but neither of them would have complemented Arlene like Dorothy did. She had both wit and gravitas and a strong desire to play the game well, not just for laughs. "I've got the time and you've got the inclination." They actually got away with quite suggestive material. I probably started watching WML in 1958, so I wouldn't have seen any of the shows with Fred Allen when they were originally broadcast.
I love how honest and respectful everything is…
I like the "Small Conference" sign which was sent to John Daly! I think that he should have used that regularly.
Me too!
Perfect gift for mr Daly!
It was especially funny when Garry Moore picked it up to use it during his conference when the panel was blindfolded!
Agree. Great prop.
Especially in earlier episodes with smoking..
Nasty Breath after a cigarette
"I said are you pretty funny??"
That line killed me.
"It's a question of talent rather than sex" - Dorothy remarked about her husband!
Walking the line of the censors...
Hilarious
that was such a hilarious though intentional double entendre.
@Jeepman89 maybe he did, but progressive revisionist history says that about everyone.
@Jeepman89 I'm not sure where you got that from. In Lee Isreal's biography on Dorothy Kilgallen, she describes Richard Kollmar's numerous affairs, and all of them were heterosexual encounters.
He was Boston Blackie on radio for several years, and he and Dorothy hosted a greatly successful radio show for a good, long while. " Breakfast with Dick and Dorothy " if you can believe it.
yes, it was highly popular in New York. I believe they made $1000 per week during broadcasting times. Also, I believe she was still doing her columns in which she made even more. Rumor has it that she was paid quite a bit for "What's my Line". She always had income streaming in, unlike her husband who dabbled in nightclubs, restaurants, and art galleries. In other words, they had enough money to start businesses and such and "Boston Blackie" also dabbled in other women, although Dorothy didn't seem to mind since she found her own play-toys (Johnnie Rae, etc.)
@@dabneyoffermein595
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulteters, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nir covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
1 Corinthians 6:9-10!
These persons glorified on nationwide television brought MUCH confusion into the land. But GOD STILL says, "Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord."
Hebrews 12:14!
"Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy."
1 Peter 1:16!
HOLINESS or HELL!
Their radio show ran from 1945 to 1963. WOR cancelled it when Dick got rip roaring drunk and went on the air, while Dorothy was in a sanitarium.
@@dabneyoffermein595 I thought Johnny Rae was before her marriage
@@dabneyoffermein595 mention it all
I love how they used the Small Conference sign even though the panel was blindfolded.
perhaps vocal regognition?
Loved Dorothy’s reaction! 😃GREAT! ♥️🙏🏼
Sorry he Lost his Wife. thanks for sharing the details 🤔👍 thank you. It was a good Show 👍
I grew up with the Garry More show. It's great to seem him here. I understand he lived til he was in his 90's.
No, perhaps you read that he died in the 1990s (1993). Garry lived to the age of 78, dying of Emphysema -- no surprise as he was a heavy smoker. Watch any of the IGAS episodes and he's rarely without a cigarette in his hand.
I laughed when they held up the small conference sign and they didn’t realized the panel had 🎭 masks on 😆 😝.
Maybe they did and it was just for the audience and tv audience.😉🙃😁
Thank you for these. I can't get enough of them! I miss the old days of television.
Such a genuinely tremendous gift you're giving to generation after generation. So many thanks to you!
Dorothy looked absolutely gorgeous here. Smart as a whip too. The best combo ever. Her hubby was a lucky man indeed.
He was an adulterous philander. They didn't have an open marriage until after she walked in on him having sex with another woman in their marital bed, after which she refused to share a bed with him and to lie in that bed again. His was the bed she was placed in after she was murdered.
@@Dawn-iu8nxwere you a fly on the wall in that home? You seem to have plenty of knowledge on this. P.S I loved dorothy.
byrdman byrdman Dorothy’s friend Marc Sinclaire was video- recorded talking in the year 2000. He also had known Dick Kollmar. He is an excellent, reliable source on why Dorothy never would have voluntarily lain down in the bed in which she lay when Marc found her.
Indeed, 12 years before Dorothy’s death, Dick Kollmar did something with another guy in that bed, and Dorothy walked in the room (on the third floor of their brownstone) and surprised them.
@@kelloggs5473 They were playing a game of pinochle and eating greasy pastrami sandwiches in the bed?
Kollmar was hilarious!
This show could not happen today, with the internet and social media. The Petty Girl was huge, back in the day, and George Petty would be instantly recognized were he to appear on TV today, as creator of an iconic pop culture image. A similar situation happened when Earle Stanley Gardiner was on WML. Sixty years ago, his name was known all over the world as the author of the Perry Mason detective novels, but apparently the producers were certain enough that no one on the panel would recognize him by sight. So, as in the case of Mr. Petty, he was introduced as "Mr. X." And Bennett was a book publisher! (I've forgotten if Bennett was on the panel that night.) Imagine no one today knowing what J. K. Rowling or Gary Trudeau looks like. I love the shows with the Allens, Fred and Steve. And Fred would be gone by February of 1956. Dick and Dorothy had, respectively, about 15 and 9 years before tragedy would overtake them. Oh, the good old days! Dorothy looks especially fetching on this evening.
I think it could happen actually
Fred Allen died of a heart attack on March 17, 1956. Not in February!
@@dianawardrip5171 Thanks for the correction.
Dear Dorothy so fantastic. Rest in peace.
This was one of my favorites episodes! So many good laughs
I have the series 'Boston Blackie' on cd. It is interesting to finally put a face with the voice.
Utube has majority of old shows😊
Garry Moore got a BIG reaction from the audience when he walked on.
I loved Garry Moore he was great and loved when he hosted to tell the truth in the 70s.
Their daughter Jill was a designer in Los Angeles in recent years
that's correct, of great success.
Gary Moore was the host of the other game show on CBS. This show makes me think of NY as so sophisticated. A different world now.
John Daly is one giant obfuscation! I love it!
Not if you speak English and have a reasonably good vocabulary.
A favorite episode! And like having two game shows in one.
Thanks for leaving a comment, Ken! :)
How much were the panelist making back in the day? A week
@@chairlesnicol672 MRS Francis $1000 and the rest $500 per episode.
@@melianna999Thank you for answering my question commented 2 yrs ago,Lol!
@@chairlesnicol672My pleasure.
I just "discovered" story
about mysteries death of Dorothy
Kilgallen and been reading everything
what is attainable including
comments on YT Just come across
their payment on WML.
This episode is funny
Love u Dorothy 🤗
People back then had so much class
I would say the fashion was VERY classy.
Dorothy Kilgallen is great.
Dorothy was a investigative reporter for years to come 😊
When she died, the cocktail in her system was strikingly similar to the one that killed Marilyn Monroe. And within a week, her assistant died a mysterious death as well.
They (Dorothy and Marilyn) knew Frank Sinatra
Richard Kollmar is favorite Boston Blackie actor.
Garry Moore had a long career with Goodson-Todman Productions, hosting "I've Got A Secret" from 1952-64 and "To Tell the Truth" from 1969-77.
Yoda looks different, and his grammar is much improved.
i love john's long pseudo-intellectual replies..
“pseudo” clearly doesn’t mean what you think it does.
I like the long intellectual replies, especially when done somewhat tongue in cheek.
Nothing psuedo about John's intellect.
how did so many people like this comment? Its like the word pseudo has lost all meaning.
@@JD_13 It's because they weren't intellectual at all, but long-winded bloviating.
Richard Kollmar: inventor of Chebacca's voice.
Tobacco?
@zapkvr Chewbacca not Tabacco lmfao
They stuck it to Dorothy again.
she was smart, but not smart enough to outwit someone with a bunch of different radio voices.
Such Class.
Dorothy has such an investigative Mind.
She was truly the Last real investigative Journalist.
unfortunately, that is what caused her demise. The Woman Who Knew Too Much.
RICHARD KOLLMAR (DOROTHY'S HUSBAND) BROADWAY PRODUCER, "PLAIN AND FANCY"
ARTIST GEORGE PETTY
That joke by Bennett Cerf was pretty racy for 1955. I like it.
charming show. :)
16:43 That "small conference" fan is adorable! Have they ever used it again in future episodes?
I think not
John & Dick seemed to loose track of the stated "Line", i.e. that of Broadway producer, particularly with regard to questions regarding whether or not the panellists could use his services.
Dick Kollmar was the star of the radio series "Boston Blackie" for five years (1945-50).
When I was a young boy and read books published by Random house I never knew the people behind it. It is obvious now that they had to be like mr Surf 😚
CERF.
I agree Mr Cerf never came to mind, till this show 😊
Garry Moore what a nice man wow!
Now I don't feel bad about Steve not recognizing his new bride on another show.
Oh the petty girl 🧡 this youtube thing just gives and gives beautiful things 😊
I'm reasonably certain that the characters of Irene Draper and Roger Daley in Woody Allen's movie Radio Days (1987) were based on Dorothy Kilgallen and Dick Kollmar. Allen said that he collected stories about the people on radio and that they were based on actual shows.
Dorothy had quite a multifaceted career! She must have had energy to spare. Always loved her intellect, eyes, and smile. A real mover and shaker.
Great movie!
@@nomiddlenamenmn427Dorothy was a investigative reporter for years to come 😊
Great show!!!
I believe I have watched every "What's My Line" that Dorothy was on. What a horrific tragedy that such a beautiful and a huge asset to the World was murdered over 50+ years ago.
Was she? Murdered? I have not seen anything about that.
Amen...She must have known something. How sad and WHAT A LOSS THAT THIS LOVELY LADY was taken by someone who had done something to warrant her death...So sad
Also, if I remember correctly, her secretary died a few days later. We're talking real Bill and Hillary stuff here.
She knew too much
Truly a sad ending for such a lovely, smart and gracious woman.
Seriously, does anyone else see Garry Moore looking like Richard Kollmar's little, big or even twin brother? The similarities cannot be ignored, Dang!
👍
Can’t we have game shows like this anymore???? This was the greatest show.
This and To Tell The Truth.
I’m afraid it’s too smart to show for this day and age and it might be hard to seat a panel who could do the job, right
Love the "conference panel"! How ingenious of the viewer who sent it.
Just when I think watching these reruns can't funnier, they do. The segment with Garry Moore was hilarious.
Richard Kollmar played "Boston Blackie" on radio.
Was a favorite show of mine as a youngster.
Watching these old WML shows, I too came to be enamored by her intelligence/wit, charm and her femininity while being a dominating force in a male orientated journalistic field!
If I were to be asked who I would want to talk to from the past, Dorothy
Kilgallen would at least be one of my picks!
my opinion 🦂
Wonderful show.....
This was almost exactly 10 years before Dorothy's death.
he killed her
@@roman14032 no he did not. She died of an accidental overdose.
She got suicided, by the same group that still exists today.
Dorothy allegedly cheated on Kollmar with singer Johnny Ray and had his child. According to one citation, Kollmar thought the child was his until she eventually admitted the truth.
I never could have imagined such a thing about her. Just goes to show that people are often the opposite of what they appear to be.
Where did you get that?
@@Celisar1
I read it on Johnny Ray’s Wikipedia page and on another site that I can’t recall at the moment, but it could be “fake news” since Wikipedia is sometimes unreliable. If I find the other citation I’ll post it.
Open marriage
@@dinahbrown902
I guess so
I could never imagine being in marriage with man who prefers man, I honestly feel sorry for her.
How many women suffered of being cheated this way?
The audio is very low on this video
Using my headphones helped a lot while watching on my cellphone
I noticed that too . Thought something was wrong with my phone.
I have nothing wrong without headphones.
I'm amazed so many people are watching YT on a small device. Try it on the television. No audio problems and big picture!
I thought it was my laptop, thank goodness it's not
Bennett said to Arlene, “they’ll be clamoring for you in Scranton “, I’m from Scranton. Lived there 50 years. I’m in a different location now and I miss Scranton, a great place at that time to grow up. Was nice to hear that.
Scranton? Isn’t that Joe Biden’s home town? Though he’d of been pretty old when you were born!
@@petemarshall8094Joe Biden pretty much resembles a cadaver these days
When I was a child in the 1950's in NYC my mother would listen to Breakfast with Dorothy and Dick. They discussed all things Broadway and New York. It was broadcast from their New York apartment. I loved the show even as a child. My father hated it, but it was on every morning as we got ready for school.
@@aprilove2005 In which NYC borough did you live with your parents? Which neighborhood? Thank you for your attention.
@@davidhenschel1990 I lived in Astoria, Queens.
Omg! George Petty! Completely unexpectedly! Boy, am I glad I watched on after the advertised first guest!
I've never heard of 'The Petty Girl'........but am guessing this guy was a pinup artist? My favorite pinup artist was Gil Elvgren.
"Not in the context of the services"...got to love John Daly
I wish I could have heard this better
16:35 Daly could've used that "Small Conference" sign to fan himself after his conference with the Italian sculptor Lia DiLeo (WML, 5/24/1959)
“If you had more talent, you might avail yourself of my services.” What a swipe from Dorothy’s husband. He was a failed actor (rumor was he married her thinking her status might get him into stardom), so I wonder if he was jealous of her accomplishments.
I just thought it was good-natured teasing.
@@colleen4ever Nothing wrong with teasing, as long as there’s not a barb included.
The microphone was in its infancy, and mute button didnt exist 75 years ago😊
Arlene: Do you ever appear on TV?
Richard: No
Me: Uh...
Richard Kollmar and John Daly look like bookends.
The way we were then...
“It’s a question of talent, rather than sex...”
He first said that it she had more talent!!
They had an open marriage!!
@@ceciliem1811 Started by him when she discovered him with a man and learned HIS secret!
That Tower of London joke makes no sense. Think they got the Tower mixed up with Big Ben...?
Big Ben is the tower that is known for the clock.
@@lindahinojosa299 not correct. The bell is called Big Ben. The tower is called Elizabeth's tower. Happy to help
The original joke was "what did the leaning tower of Pisa say to Big Ben" "If you've got the time ive got the inclination". And its still wrong for the same reason.
I was around then (at least 2 months old)!
I was preparing to enter the world in three months haha
Interesting bit from Wiki about George Petty: It says that his main model for his pin-up art was his own daughter!
I really liked Garry Moore. Had never heard of him. Funny man. Loved how he called for the small conference!
Can I have a dollar for every time he said, "we don't want to mislead you?"
Gary Moore was handsome.
Can we go back to this time???? Everything was better!
No, not really.
Only for white males.
Not
Not everything, but taken as a whole. We were better then.
We’ve taken 1 step forward and 5 backward.
To deny this is true is the height of myopia.
@@thesweeples3266 Most things in life seem to use this step pattern
This was pretty risque for the time.
Dick should have run with Dorothy's questions about "services" like he was Groucho Marx!
Interesting, Dorothy Kilgallen's necklace looks very much like one I have, perhaps identical; guess that shows how old some of my jewelry is.
Was there was innuendos going on with all of the "services" talk during Richard Kollmar's segment or am I just a pervert?
I would say so, but pretty tame by today's standards.
17:58-18:01 - Fred Allen is sending the world's first text message on the world's first cell phone.
So true. Lol
@@cindylu6959😅
Dorothy's husband at the end looked like he was just going to grab her hands, as if she was just an acquaintance, but she stood up to kiss him.
She sat, he kissed her!😊