The last of their kind: Turkey's nomads | DW Documentary
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- They are a rarity in modern-day Turkey: nomads who move to the mountains in summer, pitch tents and tend to their goats. The nomads know that their numbers are dwindling. And yet they wish to hold on to their traditions.
Turkey’s nomads spend winter in the plains on the Turkish Mediterranean coast. But in spring they move with their animals to the mountains. However, the state, the military and landowners are constantly placing new obstacles in their path. How long can this traditional lifestyle continue? 63-year-old Pervin Savran leads the nomads' fight for their rights. A report from the Turkish Taurus Mountains by Nevin Sungur & Gunnar Köhne.
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I feel this peoples pain!!! I’m American Indian and our people were treated this same matter. Stand strong and keep the traditions alive!!
Clever username 😁
We were all living same way but centralist empire didn't like the eggshell he came out , we are forced to settle and pay tax . These nomads are last remaining .Actually i envy them
Do you discover some similarities with the natives of North America? Kind regards
This has always been a problem in Turkish history. During the Ottoman period, the state and the nomads always had conflicts as well as republic and Selçuk Era. The nomads did not want to pay taxes because they did not understand the reason. They were already soldiers, they could protect themselves. They were saying that we don't need a bridge, a mosque or a road, so why should we pay taxes? In the Ottoman Empire, this disagreement varied from sultan to sultan. Some say this is our tradition and leave them alone, some take their taxes and demand soldiers from them. Istanbul's intellectuals call them "etrak bi idrak" (thickheaded turk) because they were "rude". Until the 19th century, the important part of the Ottoman population was still nomads, and there still believers in shamanism. Now we have only 2 boy (tribe).
that is a comment that has nothing to do with historical facts.
"Until the 19th century, the important part of the Ottoman population was still nomads, and there still believers in shamanism"
Is that a joke. There was never been shamanists in anatolia. all turkomans who came anatolia even thousands year ago they were already islamized in iran. thats the also reason why most of the islamic religious terms in turkish actually persian instead of arabic. in 19th c. a tiny fraction of anatolian population was nomads. even in 15th c. majority was sedentary. Otherwise, if the Turks, who spread Islam to Anatolia, continued their nomadic life and did not mix with the local people, there would be no Turkification.
@@ignatiuscianci4440 I don't know if we were nomads in the 19th century, but I certainly don't think most of the Turkish people settled down in the 15th century. This is clearly understood from the poems of the folk poets who lived in the 15th century or from the folk epics written in the 15th century.
Thanks for this information, it is really helpful since im watching ertüftle right now 😂
And if you going to speak on others history speak facts on it Turkish people fully converted to Islam during the 9-10th century as they were used by the Abbasid caliphate as slave soldiers and when the great oghuz khanate fell all Turks moved southwest to Anatolia following many clans and then Seljuk bey to the Seljuk to the ottomans Turkish history is long and very fascinating and shouldn’t be taken lightly
@@I_AmTheHunkar "Fully converted islam" thats funny becouse even today in an Alevi village of Tokat city, there are still people dancing with deer heads on their heads.The old Turkish religion is not something people abandoned overnight. One of the first mosques built by the Ottomans in Bursa is filled with pagan symbols from top to bottom. If you understand the Ottoman language, you can read Neşri's work "cihannüma" There is a word that sultan Murat said to the Serbian king. "Let me show the Turk's Erlik" Erlik is the equivalent of the devil in Turk's mythology
To my friends in Turkey:
We have so much in common.
I know you will make it; you are the last of your kind, of your era, and you will continue to flourish.
Sending you love from New Zealand 🙏
thanks! kia kaha to new zealand!
You are one of a kind ! I kiss your beautiful soul ❤️🥰❤️
nothing stops a determined woman. they literally move mountains. God bless
At 06:53 she literally says: "These mines wound the chest of the Mother Earth". That's how a nomad percieves the world.
Beautiful, thank you for translating that.
I’m a yörük from Silifke, Turkey. My family has given up and migrated to Istanbul in the 1970s. I’ve given up and migrated to Japan, of all places. I’m not happy about it and it wasn’t natural but nevertheless, it’s in the name. Keep on walking.
What exactly does yörük mean? In Hungarian we have a similar word "járok" that means I walk.
@@krisztianwirsz3612 it means someone Who walk. İt comes from verb "yürümek" to walk.
Its great see that after Huge Modernity..this grandma (May allah be please with her) is still continuing the Tradition of centuries that Humanity survived before Modern times came and polluted the world through Greed
Its good that these handful people r trying to preserved the Turks way of life which they have lived through centuries
how rare and refreshing to watch a DW documentary without the plink plonk of background music
🤣😂
Hello, I am so sorry about your freedom as nomads.
We have the same beliefs about nature, my land is registered under our tribe and ownership.
I am from Fiji, thanks!
My country used to be full of nomads . I remember when I was kid mountain being white from sheaps like is snow so many of them with good old Yugoslav shepherd dogs guarding and directing them . Hard working people with good heart. And now they are all gone mountain is quite and we are buying frozen meet from new Zealand 😞.
I miss them big time and turkey will miss them too if they are not protected and they ancient rights guaranteed .
Which country r u live in?
Sad
Whic country ?
Great documentary. Her resistance to modernism and capitalistic change that inevitably destroys the environment, is very awe inspiring. I wish to live a more simpler lifer bc everything here is so consumeristic and becoming unbalance and unbearable! Ugh!!! Good on this lady! Never change
Salute to the woman who stands for the old way of life
Turkish government should be ashamed of themselves your forgetting your roots these nomadic people were how every Turkish persons ancestors may Allah bless them and protect them from the tyranny of the government
You have to protect both nomads and farmers. So they are trying to find a route none would be harmed. Because goats harms even trees. So farmers' concerns are understandable.
@@mehmetyok8434 f.. trees
am from the Philippines I dream to study and live in turkey for a good Ankara, the guinok area is good I want to live in the mountain area and this time I speak Turkish it's not easy to learn but I do. I just wait for 1year.
Let them be happy with their animals...
My four grandparents were also farmers (not nomadic tho), they were all born in a village to farmers in families with four to eleven siblings. All my grandparents left their village in the 70s and 80s alongside with their children, brothers, sisters, wives and husbands and as of today (June 2022) there is only 1 brother of my grandfather (aged 70) left in their village with his wife (aged 63)… all other family members left and live in crowded cities, some nieces and nephews even don’t know where the village of our (great)grandparents is located.
Happiness for brave women
this is really so hard dilema between the old and the new
This is just so damn terrible!!! People that don't pulite and do any damage!!!!! If they have done this for years it obviously have not damaged any thing for those times!!! Why now?? Why is there nobody that can see this and do more to help them 🙁
It actually helps the environment contrarily and they also hamper wildfires but the officials only think about their pockets
It is not only now. Also Ottomans wanted nomads to leave their lifestyle and settle down. Because they wanted to get taxes from them. But today conditions are different from back in then..
It is a big claim (!) " they are the last of their kind". First as the villager said 30 other nomad people have crossed his land. Nomads have been spread along Taurus Mountains which occupies hundreds of km. So, if there are some people in the same area, you can imagine how many people is out there. Second, I haven't visited this year but I have seen many in the taurus region. Locally, they are known as "yoruk". Though their tradition is not the same any more. They mostly live in Mersin and Antalya (not Konya or Karaman) in winters (as it is hot, on the contrary to Konya, Karaman which has extreme colds. Check the climate map of Turkiye. or use any weather service) and in summer they camp in the highlands (central anatolian part of) taurus mountains (literally on the borders between Konya- Antalya or Karaman-Mersin. ). They do not walk everyday to find a new camp site. They have designated camp sites (historically the nomads found those place first and then government has acknowledged) and they go there by trucks in a day. So, it is an pure exaggration, indeed, nonsense to say sth like "they change camp site everday". (In the past, they used to walk one camp site to another camp site until they reach the final camp site. Generally, they stayed two-three months in the final camp. Now, they have truck or trailers so they don't need to walk) . Finally, goats are the enemy of the forests. Therefore, it is forbidden to let animals into forests and woods (The forest in that region have short trees, not similar to ones in Europe. mainly from juniperus family which takes dozens of years to grow ). So, It is a big lie. the government does not intervene them in the barren high lands (people do not say this but DW translates it). no forest exist due to altitude. In short, this does not truly reflect nomads life in Turkiye. Indeed, generally, they are citizens who want to protect their cultural heritage of nomad life. To sum up, this is another anti-Turkish sentiment in DW. (ps they did not translate all the things the people said.)
I am watching this video because of Ertugrul tv series. Now I have more understanding in nomad lifestyle. The animals in Ertugrul tv series must be way much more than is depicted. And the migration process must be very colossal.
This tribes are seljuky tribes, not kayı. It can be Avşar tribes..Yörük is original turkic.
I -)'m sending my love and respect to this unique people ❤️ 💕 💜
Turkey is a really great country 🇹🇷 It's much more about old amazing cities and towns and about traditional Turkish villages than about nomads. I feel, DW and other European media try to talk about human rights violations in Turkey to retaliate because of the independent policy of Turkey, also, inside NATO.
I hope the government will help those people to find solutions for them ,thanks DW 🙋♀️❤
Here in my country somalia, nomad life is the backbone of the ecconimic, the human civilization is usually corrupting human life.
Why is this just 12 minutes long, what happened to uploading doccies that are as long as a therapy session? I really need some of those!!!
Here is my favorite quote of Ataturk (the father of Turkish people) for this video.
"Friends! Go and look at the Taurus Mountains, if you see only one Yörük (Turkish nomad) tent there and there is smoke in that tent, you should know very well that no power or force in this world can defeat us(Turks).
Kalmadı artık Yörük falan benim annem babam ikiside Yörük ama bıraktılar İstanbul da, Ankara da, Isparta da herkes farklı şehirler de yaşıyor
that drunk dictator is father of himself
@@starcapture3040 Türk halkı diyo üstüne niye alınıyorsun? Yörük veya Türk değilsen sesini kes Atatürk bizim liderimiz ve atamızdır
@@hacer6139 Atalies is fascist dictator and murderer.
@@hacer6139 Üzücü..
Por gentileza colocar legenda em português eu gosto muito de documentários desse tipo
Please give these nomands a route they can travel every year. They are a small group of people and certainly don't cause environmental damage. Give them a special permission to pass these lands. If their goats eat all the grass, they need to make strategies to avoid this. So what if they don't pay taxes.. They don't use too much of the modern world and they are a small group... Just let them live their life in peace. Please. 🌺🌿🦋👣
fascinating
„Everything we use comes from nature“ camera shot on tractor with trailer xD
Keep moving nomads!!
Where can I get the flute sounds like that @7:40? I love those sounds ... 🙏🌻
Thanks in advance
I don't think it is a flute, but it's probably similar to the traditional armenian duduk.
@@lordfarquaad9752 Honestly I don't know exactly but duduk and kaval same thing
@@rudyevans7176 yeah that's why i said similar
It is kaval. duduk is different.
Yörük is not Greek, or kurdish. Not arab. But Turk
Isparta
In the intermountain U.S. West, Basque people have become herders out there. I don't know how nomadic they are though...
The irony of the editor cutting from declaring "everything that we use comes from nature" to the caravan setting off using a diesel tractor as the transport mechanism is exquisite.
Well, if you think of it, its fueled by fossils.
@@mohamadhijazi8920 ha ! Yes, you're right !
They wouldn’t have to use it if their pack animals had better access to water, she said.
💗💗💗
❤❤❤
As a Turk, and also as a Central Asian Tatar, I romanticize this way of life... but there is no way it can last. Maybe one more generation? the path will not be clear for 3-4 weeks of grazing. The world gets smaller, more divided for ownership, and more fenced, all the time. I think the nomads need to be realistic about this and save $ to build out their own grazing land or buy feed or they will go extinct. As much as I hate to say it, they can't possibly win in the future, the way of life will have to change... Sad, but logical.
civilazation for a nomad unbearable
bende ve ailem cobandi. ufak kizim ayseyi 57 yasinda bu sene evlendirdim koyun en meshur ve zengiz Ahmet beylen 89 yasinda genc kuvvetli adamlan. Bende gulluylen ( essegimin ismi) hizli hizli amerika diyen bir koye 9 senede geldik. Gelir gelmez kendime is buldum ama anliyamadigim bir sey var,neden beni hergun polislerin ve askerlerin beni neden takip ettiklerini. Bizim hortum mehmete sordum, ingilizce okurmus diye bir bakti ve bana cevabini yazdi. Abi dedi, bu isi nerden buldun bana diye sordu? Hortum dedim, gazeteye baktim is aradim ama ingilizcem yok anlamadim. Abi dedi, sen amerikan koyunun muhtari olmussun dedi……… sonunu okumak icin beni takip edin, size yazicam gene. hosca kalin, hep gulun hayat palavradir.
make at least 40-45 minute documentry
It’s 24/7 camping - and not in a good way.
While this isn’t the best lifestyle for them any longer, moving into an urban area would be unbearable for them.
The government can’t help nomads and it can’t help urban areas. Governments are now functioning as a protection for the wealthy only.
Urban people are pretty much corralled (like the nomads) into designated areas for easy control.
What their livestock do to the grounds as they move each day can actually STIMULATE & NOURISH the plants and earth. They eat a bit, leave droppings that have nutrients and move on each day.. Joel Salatin (one of America's most well-loved farmers calls it mob grazing and uses it to help HEAL the land). May God bless her and protect them and us all ameen!
Leave them in Peace they where there first
IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY WHETHER THEY ARE LUCKY OR OTHERWISE..
The translation is very poor, but still it gives the main idea more or less.
Çok güzel mı 💕
You will also find some turkish tribes in Bayburt, Turkiye, living the same way of life since centuries.
we have lost our humanity.
Does this channel know what nomads mean ??
Turkey is being reforested: trying to repair the damage of millennia of deforestation, overgrazing and devastating soil erosion...
Turkey’s reforesting should not come at the expense of people who have practiced this way of life for over 1000 years. We can improve the environment without erasing unique cultures.
@@meh4770 That problem I will leave to the Turkish government to solve. I'm sure everybody would like to be reasonable...
@@meh4770 fddddddsddddddsddfdddsddddddgdc
She doesn't looks 63 i mean .
Being a nomadic herder is hard life. Authorities should not make life harder for them
They deserve large amounts of money for the meat from that open grazing. And the state should give them land.
It is so sad a lot of people nowadays are so greedy!!!!
the authorities should be put out of office and a more reasonable ppl given these jobs... all ppl need to live peacefully like they did for yrs..
the sad reality is sooner or later the nomadic way of life is going to disappear and become part of history which the future gen can only reminisce thru images and textbooks, unless conscientious persistent effort is being made thru dialogue between all stakeholders involved and reviewed regularly, instead of unilaterally forcing state's/self/certain groups' interests onto the other. at the end the only ones stand to lose that piece of culture is its own community, country, and by extension humanity. regret always comes later.
im probably going to get roasted for this but havent they got a farm of their own, a tractor etc. if they were truly nomadic they wouldnt have a farm. the fact that they are arguing with another farmer over going through his land is a bit cheeky in my opinion, or would they be fine with others using their land while they are away
If they where in corporate system registered. Yes, they would have to get a Farm or land . But this Tribe is not registered in the corporate country system. They live there life's as a free Man or Woman. They are NOT part of the corporate identity, organization or community. That means all land, water and Air belong to them . Corporate identity system wish the Government knows that.
Nomads using iPhones. What a load of B/S
In North America is over 720 different native Tribes exist. In USA School system. They teaches only 13 Tribe's existence. Even this Tribe blood related ancestors . Been Seattle in California 3 thausend years ago called Yurok Tribe. If you know what Tribe you belong to. And clime you identity as a Tribe. You don't have to pay any taxes.
@@arifedickerson9234 ok sorry i thought they said at the beginning of the doc that they had a farm. thanks for the reply
@@owenthomas5876 there Farm is there . When the Sun goes down. 😉😂😂😂
Im a roma gypsy .. our ppl use to live like this for centuries.. to this day there are nomads but thats now minority..
Actually no they did not, Yörüks had routes, they were and are '' half-nomads '' and even when their tribes get bigger they got divided into smaller sections and historically each carried spesific knowledge
At a buffet, I personally sneak corn into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 boiled corn ears in my jacket pockets. It is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corn thinking they were part of the buffet.
I like to sneak in Chitlin and Sweet Potato pie.
Love that woman
arent goat reason for desertification?
No. It is not need. They can stand in a village.. Yörük is very stubborn. Its seljuky, it is normal.. 😂Seljuky yörük established Turkey. Its conquered roman empire. They are very free saul, action...A yörük girl died, his father is his grandfather.We are disgust.. A tent, very much person.. No need. 😢Read yörük kızı müslime..
"Everything we use comes from nature", said the tractor driver on her cell phone.
Well, where I'm from (Somalia) people have mobile phones but no water or health services, if you bring up the main issues ppl will get hostile and maybe even violent.
@@wiilkasanadka10 It is tragic any time a traditional way of life must be forfeited in the face of changing conditions.
@@MrJackwork actually back in the early 1980s, The Marxist Lennist government of the time tried to turn the Nomads to Fishermen by training and giving them boats(i think the government bought the fish) when there was a severe droughts. Guess what, after a good rainfall, 70% of them went back to their old nomadic lifestyle.
@@wiilkasanadka10 As I understand it, to make matters worse, foreign interests have plundered Somalia's fisheries.
@@MrJackwork absolutely, Particularly China, with their massive fleet of trawlers plus foreign and local terrorist. Here is an example of something that can only happen in Somalia. The former director of NISA( National Intelligence and Security Agency)accused, the new director(Also an MP for his tribe) who just took the office (the newly elected president put him in charge of Nisa since their buddies) of having links with terrorism and also accused of Trying to kill the former prime minister of previous regime. He said he has proof but no on seems to care at the moment. Rotten to the core. Sorry about long article
Allah sizlere sabir versin
How pitty deficult live.GBU
If people LISTENED to this woman - the world would be a better place. Why? Who is behind this- ?
dw is dip stath cia
Imagine 3 herders with 1 000 goats each meet and their goat 🐐🐐🐐🐐 mix 🤣 🤣 that's when I will pity them kkkkk
Actually state supports them, they make festivals when it is '' moving time '' state lands are divided between Yörüks so everyone knows their territory but their problem is mostly with farm owner since ages plus government only allows them to pass through forest in certain times when trees are full grown
They have every right to move a round any where on Globe . Long as they don't become part of the evil system. This can be only happen with written or wrobel consent.
@Estelle if you believe they don't. Than you have lot to learn.
I agree with you
Qué estupidez y qué triste que no puedan vivir como lo han hecho siempre, por qué el gobierno y la gente es intolerante con su forma de vida. Más bien los deberían respetar, y deberían poder moverse donde ellos quieran.
was that how Turkish people arrived in Anatolia 1000 years ago?
This land was roman empire, and read the manzigert battle..Seljuky tribes.. 😂
This is how the Mongols invaded Europe
FIVE.PERSEN.IS.TURKS.RE.ISTORIANS..BABILONIANS.ASYRIANS.KURDIS...PERSIANS.GREEKS..ARAVIANS.ALEVITES.STILL.15.MILIONS.KURDIS..30.MILIONS..END.DNA.20.MILIONS.IS.GREEK.ARMENIAN.
The tragegy of these people is that they are the real ethnic Turks coming from the Asian steppes and have ended being a tiny minority as are dominated by the islamised Armenians, Greeks, Kurds etc in Anatolia.
Other nomads were bust doing greek kurdish and armenian women
In fact, this land was used by nomads before turkik people came there. There is not enogh useful land for agriculture. It is not productive for cultivation.
Turkey is extremely hostile to these poor nomadic tribes.
ITS TURKIYE ,,,DW
Are they Muslim?
Yes
@@zakariamattu8613 They established Turkey, Seljuky tribes. Very stubborn😅
"And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life.
And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.
The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire." (REVELATION 20:12-15 NKJV)
Today, while you are still alive and able, may you repent from your sins, believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that JESUS CHRIST is your Lord and Savior, so that through Him, your name will be written in the Book of Life.
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him
should not perish but have everlasting life.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved." (JOHN 3:16-17 NKJV)
WHAT IF YOU DIE TONIGHT? HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT IT?
why is Hades mentioned in the Bible? isn't that a pagan Greek concept?
I hope you become Muslim. Jesus was a prophet like Moses, Aaron. He wasn't God or son of God. Islam is the last true religion. Hz Muhammed (s.a.v) is the last prophet. Become a Muslim and save your afterlife.
@@HT-ye3py agree
@@HT-ye3py stupid,. thse all just puppets
My.people have resisted satanic islam for thousands of years...
We will never worship any one but The Christ.
Good to know that the turks were so before they settled down after conquering CONSTANTINOPLE.
They settled down in newly conquered lands. That's how they kick out Greeks and Armenians of Anatolia. It was before Constantinople. It started with 1071 Malazgirt victory.
@@HT-ye3py
Yeh
Good to know that they did so and continue to do so worldwide....
@@HT-ye3py no greeks and armenians were kicked out and continued to live in anatolia for centuries until the dissolution of ottoman empire when themselves tried to kick out turks, what are you talking about? stop spreading misinformation especially when you have a turkish flag in your profile.
@@pads2017 ‘continue to do so, worlwide’?? exactly how? elaborate please. i bet this comment belongs to a white colonizer, how they find the audacity to spread hate about turks never fails to amaze me.
Mongolian cousin’s
They're not Mongolians..
but most of turkic nation have r1a1 haplogrup...so also russian cousian...also q haplogrup....american native people cousin...and j2 also iranian people cousin...
@@seckinuygur8928 we are all cousins and this guy is one of stupid cousins that we all have love and don't paid any attention when they talk stupid .
mongol and turkish are different race
@@pragueexpat5106 We are, originally, partly Mongolian, partly Siberian.
Who the heck cares?
And to talk abt preserving your nomadic life but sit here wearing modern clothes using modern technology is not nomadic it’s absolutely disgusting and disrespectful to expect everyone to stop walking just for u all countries are advancing and evolving developing technologies and finding new opportunities don’t hold your country back just because of your ignorance and greed