How to make your own RUST for weathering scale models
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- There are aftermarket rust powders, pigments and paints out there to buy, but they are $$$ EXPENSIVE. Why not try making your own rust to use for weathering your scale models? It's easy, it's cheap as chips, and best of all, it gives you actual real rust you can apply to your models. You can't get more authentic than that! This stuff is great if you're new to weathering or rusting models and want to try techniques before you shell out big bucks on pricey paints and pigments. Plus it's just fun (and funky) to make. All you need is steel wool, vinegar, and patience.
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I've always made my own iron oxide (rust) for over 15 years now. I put about 3 or 4 rolls of 0000 steel wool into a quart jar and fill it up with vinegar and put in the window for a couple months. When it's all turned into a big mess, I pour it out into a flat pan (11x14 photo processing stainless steel pan) and wait for a couple of weeks for it to dry. Then I use a single edge razor blade to pulverize it into a fine powder and store it in little (snuff) tins. Every batch I've done comes out a little different color. Works great 'cause it's real rust. To use it on models, you can mix the powdered rust with some lacquer thinner and apply as much as you want and adds a lot of texture to the surface. Cheers from eastern TN
That's fantastic! Thank you for sharing your tips. Cheers from Melbourne, Australia - Dave
Moment you said how to make rust at home I was running to my kitchen and then down to basement preparing jar of steel wool, lol.
Ah, that is exactly the bright orange color I needed, and I get to play mad chemistry! Excellent !
Good to hear!
Been doing this for decades! I. Leave the jar open to dry to a powder. Use as a pigment. Its an old woodworkers trick for ebonizing wood. The liquid is great for aging wood for dioramas.
Hi Jennifer, that's good to know about leaving it open to become a pigment / powder. Nice one, thanks for sharing :) Cheers, Dave
Jennifer how long does it take for the solution to turn into powder?
Ohh... I love that Idea for aging the wood! Thank you Jennifer!
U must be a man of meny women with techniques like this thank u for your honor and wisdom 🙏
Bwahaha, we all know the scale modellers get all the ladies! ;)
Daleko od oduševljen... Veliko poštovanje za ideju. Za nekoliko meseci idem u penziju i ovo bih radio. Hvala puno.
That's a genius technique, using real rust to make rust on a model. There isn't much better than the real thing! Just like using real mud on a model too. I really like the actual texture that you get with it, like you said it does look like how metal gets when rusty when it kind of bubbles up and the primer or whatnot starts to peel off when the rust gets underneath. That's something that's hard to get with pigments since the powders are so fine, which of course has its own benefits. I'll shoot you an email about another idea I've been having.
Oh and if you're worried about the fumes, we did this kind of reaction in my Chemistry class and you're probably getting Hydrogen Sulphide or other sulphuric gases. They won't kill you but they could make you a little sick for a day or so if you breathe in too much. So probably not much worse than your average paint thinner fumes we deal with :)
Thanks Panzermeister36! Yeah, that texture is quite interesting. I love this technique for big, chunky rust - it can be a little heavy-handed for fin streaks, but it's do-able. Chat to you soon, Dave
Dave's Model Workshop It seems you could also add pigments,paint etc to the homebrew?
Definitely. I'm not sure how much you'd have to add to influence the colour, but it would be a fun experiment to play with :) . Cheers, Dave
Panzermeister36 cinnamon works well to. Just delute white glue brush it on and sprinkle the cinnamon over it. Looks great when it dries
Just getting into modelling and this rust effect is by far the best I have seen. Thanks Dave, I’ll try it out
Thanks Daniel!
(Hubby here) Dave genius! Great tip for a guy like me who loves to "experiment". That's the main thing I love about the modeling community - the sharing of information.
Fantastic crafting tip! Thank you very much! This will definitely help with what I needed it for. Cheers!
The thing i like about your vids the most is that you make it the cheap way,nit thr MOST EXPENSIVE like other youtubers
Heh heh, I do love to do things the inexpensive way if at all possible!
I really love this video! After finding a blatantly fake "restoration" video in my recommends, I was discussing with my boyfriend how we can make rust paint from vinegar and steel wool. BOOM, the perfect video to demonstrate exactly how it looks and works! Miniatures and models are an entire world of fun in and of themselves! Yet i always fantasize about creating wonderful films; using scores of minis and models to bring life and a real environment to fantastical places, relived moments of history, the seemingly impossible done in real time. I think these types of props, used properly, can be far superior to the CGI worlds most (edit: modern) movies seem to be made of... There's such a charm to a world recreated, it's something a collection of data files just isn't.
Cheap as chips...I love that.
WOW thanks for all these "make your own" its amazing i'm new at this (1year and 1/2) and i still make ugly effects with pigments i buy but after this video my scale models are so good. Huge thanks from me :)
Keep it up
Is there a way to make it stay on for good , like glue or a top coat?
I've found an acrylic craft paint that looks incredibly like rust. It's called Espresso and Latte which translated means coffee and milk. I use it on all my railroad wheels. Cheers from eastern TN
How did you apply it on your model?
Thank you in advance!!
WOW! That looks really great and so cheap too, well done Dave. I might just give this a try and see how I get on with it. Many thanks for sharing this top tip with us today.
Have fun,
Joe
Thanks Joe. You know me mate, I'm a cheapskate! If there's a non-expensive alternative, I'm interested ;) Cheers, Dave
Being 'cheap' means that one's creativity is set free...this is what separates one from the pack I would think. Splendid work Dave! Cheers from Roswell New Mexico.
Another beaut Dave. That's really clever. Best regards from England.
Cheers Norman!
Wonderful weathering jobs, looks so realsitic!
Love the technique! Long ago I used to thin out flat/matte enamel paints to use as a fixative for clay dust "mud" and "bearing grease ooze" on AFVs. These days I am more fascinated by STEAMPUNK and your Steel Wool Rust is Perfect for that kind of Nitty Gritty... Once dried overnight, the rust could potentially be tinted and/or moved around with a fine brush, using the thinned enamal fixer I mentioned above. Your vids are Aces Dave.
That looks awesome
This is a great technique! I mixed up some and it is fantastic! Your caution about the lid is right on. After letting mine sit for a week, tried it, great outcome but I pulled a dumb ass and when I put it on the shelf above my work bench next morning the stuff was all over my bench! Dummy here tighten the lid. So yes do not tighten the lid when your done. I have started a new batch that I intend to use on Panzer II I'm working on.
Hi Sooner Steve, ah, mate, that is not good. I've been lucky and haven't spilled this stuff yet, but I imagine it's an absolute *&^%$ to try to remove the stain! Dave
Definitely a useful technique for that crunchy look.
I finally got the rust, but just used water sparingly & ended up with a kind of powder which work great with wet brush..but I never have tried without this video so thank you sir!
I'm so glad it worked for you mate! Excellent news! Cheers, Dave
Very cool trick. Thanks man.
This is a great tip! Those weathering kits are pretty expensive. I just left my steel wool outside in vinegar. I have an Amtrak locomotive that has a smear in the paint. Hiding it with a rust stain will be a perfect solution.
Cool, I hope it works perfectly for you. Good solution.
Excellent video! I actually have a jar of this sitting right here - I mix it up tho, for the liquid. If you paint actual wood (like popsickle sticks, matchsticks whatever) it chemically reacts with the wood and turns it dark in various shades, great for a worn look in dioramas etc. I'd not thought to use the solid left over bits as well! Definitely going to try it out. Thanks very much!
Thanks so much... I tried your rust technique, and it works, saves my money too. Natural is power
Staff car looks bloody awesome Dave 👍🏻🇦🇺
That looks great. Got a 1/10 scale 79 ford bronco RC that I want to weather
You can also use aluminum soda can that's been burnt with a torch, it makes very nice surface for heavily rusted-through parts
Great economy tip Dave. I go a little cheaper, by useing worn out S.o.S pads. Once I have scrubbed the soap out cleaning something I put them in a container with water to dissolve what's left in a jar. Never used vinegar, but that works fast it seems. Loved the texture. My Titanic wreck model 1/ 700 will require a sea floor covered in rusty bits. I plan to blend the wet plaster with some pieces of rusty chuncks , letting the rivers of rust run to the low spots. Like the R.V. footage in the pictures. This is a perfect shmutz to spread all over the wreck! Thanx for sharing Dave.
Lance Caldwell that sounds amazing. I can’t wait to see your Titanic diorama. Will you replicate the water in any way? (Which sounds like a nightmare, btw!)
That is awesome. Thanks 🙏🏻 for the help man
My pleasure!
Love it. Never seen this technique before. Will certainly give it a try. Thanks for the video.
Thanks mate. It's tremendously satisfying!
Great idea Dave. Thanks for the tip.
Absolutely fantastic, Dave. Thank you so much for sharing this tip. Cheers,
tony
Give it a crack Tony, it's great stuff once you've made it.
I've got a jar in the yard now! LOL . Thanks again buddy! Great tip. I do wonder about how to seal it though...? Dullcote?
Works superb! Thanks Dave!
Awesome video..........
Fantastic idea and presentation. I love it. Thank you.
Awesome information. Thank you
Wow ive been modeling for quite some time and i like how the first way to make real rust ! That blew my mind hahah ty very much
Glad you liked it Tim! Cheers, Dave
wow cool......never seen rusting like this before....
There are some many ways to do rust, and this is a very good one to do. Nice video my friend :)
Excellent video Dave, thanks so much !
Greetings from The Philippines
Eric Rausch thanks Eric!
Awesome technique 😮
Thank you!
@@DavesModelWorkshop got some wire wool in the garden brewing nicely 👍🏻
I have used rusty old metal from an exhaust pipe in the past. It gives you rust colour but without the texture bits. This method looks really good though.
Great tip!
I did just as the video suggested and used steel wool and apple cider vinegar. It's been almost 2 weeks now and nothing. The steel wool still looks brand new.
I would suggest adding a little bleach and see if that kick starts the process. But please be mindful of fumes!
Brilliant!!!! I'm doing this when I get home from work today!
Thanks TescoVee - let me know how it works out. Dave
BRILLIANT thanks ,nice work.
These are such great videos .... on a budget and as an old beginner, thanks very much 👍
Thanks David. Glad you enjoy them. Cheers, Dave
@@DavesModelWorkshop... I’ve made my rust jar up and drying some earth out now...on my second build now.... bought a cheap airbrush and had great fun practicing and using on the first model and trying and making my own pin wash and other wash out of oil paints... all new techniques to me and from one of your commandments.... it might not be to any winning standard but to me who looked at models in the shop and thought I wish I could .... it brought satisfaction to me and will learn from the mistakes and have the confidence to try anything.... I might be sad but I actually don’t mind cleaning my airbrush 😊
This helped alot Dave!!
I like the steel wool affect real rust more realistic
Top tip! Cheers mate, I always like to do stuff as cheap as poss as don't show models but looks great to me.
Thanks Paul!
Good stuff bro' thanks again for all your help... I'm looking forward to trying this and other tricks I've been learning from yourself and others on YT!!!
Awesome work, and thanks for the tips on making rust in a jar .
Great video.
Mike Espo . New sub to you today.
Simple idea, brilliant & cheap! Will definitely try it.
Hi David, thanks very much. Simple and cheap is how I work ;) Cheers, Dave
I’ve also tried you dirt, mud, and flat earth mixture to get mud effects. And loved it but instead of flat earth I used burnt umber Acrylic paint and also liked the effect. Cheers fro Canada
Hi Craig, glad to be of help mate! Cheers from Australia.
You just saved ne a lot of money , great channel ! Subscriebed !!
Hi Ioan, I love to hear that I've saved people money! Glad you were able to use this. Cheers, Dave
Super great idea, top. Thanks for showing 👍 👍 👍
Hey Tom, my pleasure mate. I'm all about saving money where we can in this hobby. Cheers, Dave
awesome tip! Thx!!
orange rust effect..new rust...thanks for sharing
Massive thank you! This made weathing so easy!
Excellent!
Awesome 👍👍👍 Thanks buddy. I'm going to try on my old Tamiya Mountaineer
Love this
Great tip dude
Cinnamon sprinkled on wet paint is much cheaper, much quicker, much easier.
Cheap spices at cheap stores. Cinnamon, Chile powder, etc.
Paint your rusty area, sprinkle the cinnamon or other spice on to cover entirely. Immediately shake excess off, then use toothbrush or other stiff brush to brush more off- as much as you want. You get very realistic looking- and feeling- surface rust effect.
Good video. Thanks for the tip!
Amazing outcome
Thanks Scott!
Very good tip. Great video. Thanks for sharing
That's brilliant! Thanks a bunch
Great technique...thanks
Nice work buddy... Why don't you try about 100 copperhead Bbs and a copper colored sos pad in vinegar 🎉 it'll be rusty like RUSTY 🎉
Great video, I love the texture of the rust, would love to try it myself. Either with vinegar or water as another user suggested. One question has been on my mind, what material would you use to seal this in?
I would say most anything you would use to seal a finish on model. I prefer to paint my rust on using acrylics mixed with ground pastel.
Love the intro music 😄
Brilliant ,im away to my shed with my scourer and viniger,i think it will look good on tank exhaust s. better than the old bicarb of soda and glue technique ive been using
Good luck Kevin! Let me know how you get on mate. Dave
Fantastic. Always learn something useful from your videos. Love how you work out cheaper ways to do things. I know it might be easier to just go & buy some of these different things from the hobby shops but to me it defeats the purpose and isn't as much fun as improvising or working things out yourself.
Thank you. Yes, I'm a big fan of doing it yourself rather than buying the latest gizmo!
awesome !!
Hi dave,
Same question as Michael. Do you seal/clearcoat afterwards ?
Derek McNulty hey mate, I don’t bother sealing it. You certainly can, although it does darken the effect and removes quite a lot of the subtlety. I just leave mine as is, and try it to handle the finished model.
This is great. I’m going to try this on my O scale trains!
Do please let me know how you get on MrLionel. Dave
Interesting and very well detailed. Came across this when looking at rc scale crawler body painting and the channel linked this video as a recommendation. As water gets rid of it, I assume a form of lacquer on top (even cheap hairspray) will protect it a little from the elements when taking the rc trucks out into the wilderness through some watery splash conditions?
You would definitely want to seal it somehow for a RC truck that's going to be exposed to water, grit, etc. Hairspray is water soluble, it will eventually wear off. you'd be better with a matte clear coat of some kind, but be aware the clear coat will dull the effect a little, it will make the rust darker and it will lose some of it's subtlety.
Great tip, thank you for sharing!!
This is fantastic. It is a real rust . How do you keep it from wearing off
You can seal it with a clear top coat, but it does lessen the subtlety of the rust effect somewhat, it makes it darker and less subtle.
Maybe it would help to stir the glas every once and a while to get rid of the lumps. But, the effect is great.
WOW GOOD TRICK TANK YOU BROS FOR THAT TIP...
Poor king tiger haha! Iv got a Sherman in exactly the same condition the test tanks been through it's own pigment war haha!
Awesome. Much appreciated.
Nice!!!
I'm not sure, but you might get more control with this by using a small amount of dish soap to break the surface tension of the liquid. But I'm not sure if that would react with vinegar as it does with water or cause any other problems.
Worth a shot, definitely. Thanks for the suggestion CzarPeppers, Dave
Hey, Dave, just wondering if you would recommend clear coating models after doing the rust weathering? Thanks, Mac
Depends how much its going to get handled, if you do clear coat it I'd advise Matte coat but fair warning, it will darken down the vibrate oranges
Hi! after the oxide effect is dry, which is put on the vehicle so that the effect does not come off? Thanks!!!
Try an acrylic matte varnish by vallejo.
@@Marauder623 would this also work for pigment as well?
Wonderful weathering job Dave! looks so realsitic! i have 1 question... yesterday i tried making it my self and in the jar, i placed the steel wool and filled it with white vinegar but today i saw and happened nothing 🤣🤣 how much vinegar is required??? Love from Greece!!!!
I used about 150-200ml of vinegar in the jar you can see in this video. I basically put the steel wool in, and poured in as much vinegar as the jar would hold. i hope this helps.
@@DavesModelWorkshop thanks! I will try again.
It's a great effect. My question is how would you seal it? I play tabletop wargames and everything is gonna be touched....often.
You can seal it with a clear coat, but it will lose some of the subtlety and the rust will get a bit darker.
Before and after applying the rust, should I spray the model with anything to seal the surface? Thanks. Great video.
Hi Kent, you can seal it with a clear coat after you have applied it, not before. Be aware though that the rust will get darker, and lose some of its subtlety.
hi, only mix the vinegar with the metal wool in the same bottle and wait?, how much time need to be ready?. Thx for this tip, u have a new sub.
Hi Antidoto35, yep, that's all you need to do. Mix vinegar and steel wool in one bottle, and leave it for maybe 2-3 days. A week would be better, but 2-3 days would give you a useable rust. Cheers, Dave
Awesome. Love any money saving tips. How about burnt rust on exhaust?
I guess you could apply this rust effect, and then airbrush a burnt colour over the top of it?
Hi mate does this stuff rub off easy because I want to make a rusty vw golf and I'm worried it may rub off once touched. BTW great video mate
Goes show you just use common sense ! Want that affect use real rust ! Incredible idea .
Heh heh, yep, you can’t beat the real thing!
idk if i’m doing it right or worng but i been having the jar open for like 2 today and it’s still clear what else do i need to add
can i use anything else to replace vinegar ? really dislike that smell of vinegar