Its not that the heat dont have the money, they are unwilling to pay the tax penalties when you go deep into the 2nd apron. So those other teams you mentioned are paying SUPER high tax penalties for having those rosters. Thats why. the money is always there, but you have to pay steep penalties on taxes in order to do that
@razielthagreat2109 I see, so other teams pay for talent and Miami wants to do it the cheap way. Man hurts as a fan cause we can see clearly we don't have the horses, so another over achieving season, slightly above 500, playoffs, recycle again every year
Exactly always complaining of no money. They will never get nobody then. Kyle kuzma is out there also Collin Sexton come on now Miami you wanna win need more help. All these other teams have loaded up on players at least one of these can help out.
Not guna lie like derozen but is that enough to beat Philly Boston and the knocks idk the player I really wanted and he got traded for almost nothing was Murray from the hawks that one hurt
@@kevinmarrero5013bruh…. You act like Miami hasn’t beaten Philly and Boston with Less. Despite the new editions. Murray didn’t do 💩 for ATL, after he was traded to them and ATL were in the ECF before he got there.
I would rather strong role players than Demar Derozan. He isn't a consistent 3 point shooter, nor is Jimmy, nor is Bam...... We need shooters and size, it's that simple. I would've loved Trae way more, even if he's undersized.
This makes zero sense for this team. This ain't the 80s. We can't "midrange jumper" our way to the finals. I want Tyler gone, but how this works doesn't make sense. None of our young players should be dealt. I'm also tired of trading our first round picks for guys who aren't gonna make a real difference. Lauri Markenen got better when he got away from the Derozen led Bulls. Iq don't want that to happen to our young guys. Trade Jimmy and start looking for the next DWade.
@@czyseason658 You are correct. Lauri didn't cross over with him. Vuc hasn't looked good since he's been there, though. The fact of the matter is, that type of basketball, doesn't win. It's been almost 2 decades since a team built with midrange jumpers could win a title. If I'm just yapping, prove me wrong. In recent history, where has that formula worked? When has the lead scorer of a championship team not been a good to great 3 point shooter? I'll wait for your response.
@@terrencesimpkins734 bro when did terry join the team? Give him a full 82 with us. You prolly one of those that wanted Derozan too so let me stop wasting my time
At this point, fuck it. He ain't a Kyle Lowry so do it.Real question though is, who are the Heat gonna trade for him? People would say Herro, but do the Bulls want him though? Spacing gonna be terrible but the Heat will fix that.
Jimmy and Demar operate in the same areas of the floor - the mid range. That and the NBA becoming a “hit more threes than the other team and you have a much higher chance of winning” league, I don’t love this.
Fan are so lacking in knowledge...Everyone is always looking at what other do on the other side of the fence.How many times has miami been in the eastern conference finals in the last four...five years...how many times...in the finals in that same time frame...the only other team is boston...and being healthy...they finally won against a team that wasn't gonna beat them anyway....That being said...with all the trades of other teams...etc...who has done better in that regard...Just because you think that this stuff looks good...doesn't mean that it is...I'm with the godfather...because continuity...youth...and health...makes a difference for maintaining a lengthy run....A trade only guarantees that you have someone else.How did the dame thing work for Milwaukee 😅This is my opinion....my opinion. Period.
I also have reservations about DeMar. I think it is time to give up the whale hunt and add depth. I would try Tyus Jones. He could be back up to Terry, provide 3pt shooting and make it easier for the big men to score. This would mean giving up Caleb and maybe a sign and trade
Tobin, trade Tyler & Duncan and get Demar. Pick up Buddy and run it with that team. Chicago, Brooklyn, and Utah and would want Tyler. Duncan also could go to a handful of teams. That could clean our books. Demar is 10 times better than Kyle. Jimmy and Demar could switch between 2-3
We aint getting Jack, we only get used by players as leverage to get a leg in their negotiation process with other teams. Our owner is a CHEAP SKATE. Only way he ends up in Miami is if he values winning over $$$$ and come on board at a 80% discount for a shot at winning the chip. I think this is too much to expect from a player.
I see every team driving off in the NBA to improve their team, and I feel like someone is sleeping at the wheel in Miami. Somebody needs to wake up Pat... moves need to be made b4 it's too late
If we can’t get an excellent high score letal from 3s to make the team better than can be on top 3 team on the East( what at this point it’s almost impossible)THEM if we can improve our Championship possibilities we have to keep what we have BUT sell Butter and get the most than we can for him and wait for next offseason and make the moved earlier before everyone for a Big Whale. Use kel’e Ware a lot this season too.
I’ve been saying to get Derozan, knows bully ball, can get his own shot, in that same era of hard ball that Jimmy ,is in hungry for a chip, you can start him at the 2 and keep Jimmy at the three and bring Tyler off the bench Sign him pat please
If Derozan would take the mid level that’s a huge win. It’s probably not going to happen and he’s most likely using the Heat as leverage like every other team.
Forget it Pat Riley and Mickie are the cheapest owners in yhe NBA the fact that the pelicans got Murray for cheap means the heat is not even trying to get a good player, si I don't blame Jimmy Butler for playing half ass.. show the heat we don't like it don't go to the games.. how come Boston can have multiple high paying players and we can't.. Heat owners are cheap!!!!!
Why would any all-star level player go to the lakers?? They have reddick as their head coach with 0️⃣ coaching experience, drafted a college player who averaged less than 5 ppg , and you have an aging all star who can no longer defend, so we can rule out LA. Trade herro (should have traded him 2 yrs ago) and bring in DeRozan. Simple!
What do mean trade Terry instead of Tyler??? Tyler is a 2 guard Terry would be a way better fit with Derozen.,. Trade Tyler in a heartbeat to get Derozen
@Wilcoranking no it'll change being loyal to average ungrateful players! Since his cruise line business took a hit from covid , I can tell he wants to make money not win a chip
Sink our teeth deep into this signing demar can run our second unit or start … my God Is this a good move 2:37 and he can kinda almost put up those numbers and do what donavan does
I don’t know 🤷♂️ what the Heat are doing. This is ridiculous every team has significant improved but the Heat. I’ll take dude that plays ball next to my house, anyone at this point.
The only way this would be an “acceptable” move is if we move Tyler or Terry to another team with cap space for a pick. And then sign and trade the other one we keep for Derozan. I still don’t like it, he does not fit our team.
Why doesn't he fit the team? Cause he doesn't shoot threes? He's 42 % from the corner. PJ Tucker and Jake Crowder were efficient shooter here. Y'all are dumb. This is an all NBA talented and a nuke on offense at times. This is exactly what the heat need. Spo will make it work, he made it work with Wade and LeBron who couldn't hit water if it was wet.
I hope he signs for the 5.2. That's what best for heat. And then you can still have everyone, and could trade for Trae young or a collen sexton. That would be dope. And push us for a strong championship. If we can trade Terry Rosier, Duncan and a 1st or 2. For trey or go cheaper and trade rosier and a pick or 2 for collen sexton. This would be dope. Ill be very happy if demar comes in for the 5.2 million.
It's not happening we have the cheapest fucking owner on the whole nba!!!!!! I keep telling y'all micky needs to sell the team at this point it's not so much on Pat the owners not trying to pay up
ATTENTION HEAT FANS and HEAT CRITICS, if yall don't know how the salary cap works, Please do your research about it, before yall complain about the TEAM,
More BS talk, but at least this is somewhat realistic. Demar will contribute much more in regular season, making his value greater than the other big name/face 2a.
Moves nothing. DeRozan is a b tech Butler. Good d and poor 3 point shooter. If you were trading butler for parts he would be a good stop gap but that's it😢
If we are being real tyler herro was a better 6 man when he came of the bench he was better as a starter he’s was ok but was better coming off the bench
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Miami never has money but where all these other teams get all that money. Milwaukee, Boston, Philly, how they always have money wtf
Exactly bro Boston entire starting 5 is worth a billion dollars literally
Its not that the heat dont have the money, they are unwilling to pay the tax penalties when you go deep into the 2nd apron. So those other teams you mentioned are paying SUPER high tax penalties for having those rosters. Thats why. the money is always there, but you have to pay steep penalties on taxes in order to do that
@razielthagreat2109 I see, so other teams pay for talent and Miami wants to do it the cheap way. Man hurts as a fan cause we can see clearly we don't have the horses, so another over achieving season, slightly above 500, playoffs, recycle again every year
Exactly always complaining of no money. They will never get nobody then. Kyle kuzma is out there also Collin Sexton come on now Miami you wanna win need more help. All these other teams have loaded up on players at least one of these can help out.
They don’t pay role players star player money that’s why
For half a second, I thought those were piles of money in the background.
Lmao me too
Bro got those Walter White stacks
Derozen is a bucket and he’s durable
Not guna lie like derozen but is that enough to beat Philly Boston and the knocks idk the player I really wanted and he got traded for almost nothing was Murray from the hawks that one hurt
I@@kevinmarrero5013I was honestly hoping Spida man
Tyler Herro is a bucket too 😂
@@jg031583 foh I’d trust derozen in crunch time more than herro
@@kevinmarrero5013bruh…. You act like Miami hasn’t beaten Philly and Boston with Less. Despite the new editions. Murray didn’t do 💩 for ATL, after he was traded to them and ATL were in the ECF before he got there.
De Mar coming to Heat for the minimum that's some crazy shit
DeMar has been fantastic in Chicago and actually plays the whole season.
We should of got Derozan in the 2021 offseason instead of getting Lowry and signing Robinson to so much money🤦🏿♂️
Yeah bro at this point I don’t care if he’s another midrange killer Miami will make that shit work
You make it sound like a bad thing lol. Midrange wins finals. Check the history
I would rather strong role players than Demar Derozan. He isn't a consistent 3 point shooter, nor is Jimmy, nor is Bam...... We need shooters and size, it's that simple. I would've loved Trae way more, even if he's undersized.
This makes zero sense for this team. This ain't the 80s. We can't "midrange jumper" our way to the finals. I want Tyler gone, but how this works doesn't make sense. None of our young players should be dealt. I'm also tired of trading our first round picks for guys who aren't gonna make a real difference. Lauri Markenen got better when he got away from the Derozen led Bulls. Iq don't want that to happen to our young guys. Trade Jimmy and start looking for the next DWade.
Bro you are literally just yapping your mouth just to yap. Like what are you even talking about. Demar has never played with Lauri.
@@czyseason658 You are correct. Lauri didn't cross over with him. Vuc hasn't looked good since he's been there, though. The fact of the matter is, that type of basketball, doesn't win. It's been almost 2 decades since a team built with midrange jumpers could win a title. If I'm just yapping, prove me wrong. In recent history, where has that formula worked? When has the lead scorer of a championship team not been a good to great 3 point shooter? I'll wait for your response.
Rename the Miami Heat to the Century Village Swelter
Team AARP.
The majority of the team isn't old.
For real we just got Jimmy and whoever we get that’s old 😂
Donovan like will sign in miami on his 35th bday
@@jefourty 🤣🤣🤣 ok that was funny
No…we haven’t tried it with terry. I’m not trading terry for a 34 year old Derozan.
I know, I think if we trade Terry, it'd have to be for someone young.
I am. Rozier brought nothing to Miami
@@terrencesimpkins734 bro when did terry join the team? Give him a full 82 with us. You prolly one of those that wanted Derozan too so let me stop wasting my time
this move doesn’t even make a difference for the heat. the fanbase is just feeling left out at this point so they’ll jump at doing anything
Tobin much respect for the upload 💯
I'm tired every year the Heat teases us with big trades and nothing happens 😤! The problem is they are stuck with Duncan Robinson contract!
Young, Derozan, Lavine? these are the dudes that are gonna win us a chip? damn this is what our team has come to?
At this point, fuck it. He ain't a Kyle Lowry so do it.Real question though is, who are the Heat gonna trade for him? People would say Herro, but do the Bulls want him though? Spacing gonna be terrible but the Heat will fix that.
God emperor Tobin
Our Glorious King 👑
Terry I like him but I will love that move
Jimmy and Demar operate in the same areas of the floor - the mid range. That and the NBA becoming a “hit more threes than the other team and you have a much higher chance of winning” league, I don’t love this.
Should've went after him before. He should help us. Don't sleep on Demar.
I like Derozan,he's a bucket.
Absolutely trade the farm let's go!!!!!!
Herro and one pick for demar and lavine
@@kevinmarrero5013please don't comment any further... That was embarrassingly absurd
I spoke on this via bleacher report an hour ago b4 it dropped as a rumor got shitted on & called desperate 😂😂😂 i got rounds to make
We'll be the slowest pace, midrange shooting team in the league but hey why not. Just get Herro off my roster
Get jimmy old ass off too
Fan are so lacking in knowledge...Everyone is always looking at what other do on the other side of the fence.How many times has miami been in the eastern conference finals in the last four...five years...how many times...in the finals in that same time frame...the only other team is boston...and being healthy...they finally won against a team that wasn't gonna beat them anyway....That being said...with all the trades of other teams...etc...who has done better in that regard...Just because you think that this stuff looks good...doesn't mean that it is...I'm with the godfather...because continuity...youth...and health...makes a difference for maintaining a lengthy run....A trade only guarantees that you have someone else.How did the dame thing work for Milwaukee 😅This is my opinion....my opinion. Period.
it would be a lot easier for them to commit to their younger guys if they were willing to trade butler but i wouldn’t mind going into win now mode
Trade butler for demar lavine and one first I’m okay with that
At this point, I'll take DeRozan mid range game any day. Heck, I'll even take the dude down the block at the park. Please do something, Pat Riley.
@@305Navi don't need another reluctant 3 pt shooter
Trade Herro PERIOD! He has NOT lived up to expectations & is a HUGE hinderance to our cap yr in & yr out!!!
Yea we need a edit tobin😅
No Tyler and Duncan they need to go
Tyler would have to either be part of the trade or come of the bench.
We are cooked Tobin. Pat and the front office is ass. For not making a move as always
Herro for DeRozan..... Thats tough.. I'm not high on Tyler but I would hope for a better return than that. Maybe if you add Vucevic somehow.
Hero to injury prone to get a bunch. Just take demar
@@ApolloSol nah Vucevic lacks defense. Demar is good, but still I'd rather get someone else that is young and explosive
I also have reservations about DeMar. I think it is time to give up the whale hunt and add depth. I would try Tyus Jones. He could be back up to Terry, provide 3pt shooting and make it easier for the big men to score. This would mean giving up Caleb and maybe a sign and trade
Tobin, trade Tyler & Duncan and get Demar. Pick up Buddy and run it with that team. Chicago, Brooklyn, and Utah and would want Tyler. Duncan also could go to a handful of teams. That could clean our books. Demar is 10 times better than Kyle. Jimmy and Demar could switch between 2-3
Hope we could get cam johnson from brooklyn
I knew it!! Definitely thought about this during demars post game interview in the play in
We aint getting Jack, we only get used by players as leverage to get a leg in their negotiation process with other teams. Our owner is a CHEAP SKATE. Only way he ends up in Miami is if he values winning over $$$$ and come on board at a 80% discount for a shot at winning the chip. I think this is too much to expect from a player.
😂 Tobin got the Itch bad today
Why do you still have Tyler in the starting lineup
Midrange Butler & DeMar is a sure bucket no matter what they say about three‘s
Yea I ain’t treading Terry. I’m trading Tyler for cap space, picks or a role player and then sign Demar.
How would Jimmy and DeRozan work 🤔 there game is similar more mid-range an attack in the paint
Every team in the NBA who is trying to win 🏆 has money 💰 except the Miami heat 😮😮 i really don't understand the shiiiiiiit
You're right you really don't. Hopefully something clicks eventually 😢
can we sign and trade caleb?
What about Durant or Fox instead? Just saying 🤷🏻♂️
I see every team driving off in the NBA to improve their team, and I feel like someone is sleeping at the wheel in Miami. Somebody needs to wake up Pat... moves need to be made b4 it's too late
If we can’t get an excellent high score letal from 3s to make the team better than can be on top 3 team on the East( what at this point it’s almost impossible)THEM if we can improve our Championship possibilities we have to keep what we have BUT sell Butter and get the most than we can for him and wait for next offseason and make the moved earlier before everyone for a Big Whale. Use kel’e Ware a lot this season too.
Derozan one of my favorites up there w pg and jimmy
I’ve been saying to get Derozan, knows bully ball, can get his own shot, in that same era of hard ball that Jimmy ,is in hungry for a chip, you can start him at the 2 and keep Jimmy at the three and bring Tyler off the bench
Sign him pat please
If Derozan would take the mid level that’s a huge win. It’s probably not going to happen and he’s most likely using the Heat as leverage like every other team.
Forget it Pat Riley and Mickie are the cheapest owners in yhe NBA the fact that the pelicans got Murray for cheap means the heat is not even trying to get a good player, si I don't blame Jimmy Butler for playing half ass.. show the heat we don't like it don't go to the games.. how come Boston can have multiple high paying players and we can't.. Heat owners are cheap!!!!!
Why would any all-star level player go to the lakers?? They have reddick as their head coach with 0️⃣ coaching experience, drafted a college player who averaged less than 5 ppg , and you have an aging all star who can no longer defend, so we can rule out LA. Trade herro (should have traded him 2 yrs ago) and bring in DeRozan. Simple!
Tobin - stop bro for your own mental health. This team isn’t doing anything.
So this is what we're doing now guys.. Tobin, this is starting to remind me of an episode of "who would you rather, DeRosen or.."
Tyler has to go!
I’m sorry I fail to see how Tyler is more reliable than Terry when Tyler has spent half of his NBA career injured.
yall keep bring up terry trade herro its that simple.
dg or young seem like obvious choices dg just because he would be a lot cheaper but young is that guy
NGL i like Derozan and Jimmy on a prove it year together.
What do mean trade Terry instead of Tyler??? Tyler is a 2 guard Terry would be a way better fit with Derozen.,. Trade Tyler in a heartbeat to get Derozen
Dump Herro and get DeRosen, and resign Highsmith.
You can't have both
@@Wilcoranking If Riley had his shit together,he could make it happen.
Mickey needs to sell the team!
So selling the team will change salary cap rules? Fascinating 😮
@Wilcoranking no it'll change being loyal to average ungrateful players! Since his cruise line business took a hit from covid , I can tell he wants to make money not win a chip
Derozan is definitely going to the best suitor . Miami doesn’t want to pay any taxes
Sorry to let you down broski but every player in the league not on the current roster has mutual interest, however it means nothing.
If we can get Demar without giving up much I'm all for it
That’s not it Tobin
Please dont trade any of our young core for a retirement home Derozan so he can sign and trade
This is crazy . Why are they not going for trae this is absolutely embarrassing.
Another boring summer
Sink our teeth deep into this signing demar can run our second unit or start … my God Is this a good move 2:37 and he can kinda almost put up those numbers and do what donavan does
I’d take demar gives someone for Jimmy to rest in playoffs and in 4th quarters they can both play
Get Spo the talent, 24ppg and one of the best clutch players in the league.
I don’t know 🤷♂️ what the Heat are doing. This is ridiculous every team has significant improved but the Heat. I’ll take dude that plays ball next to my house, anyone at this point.
We’re fucked it isn’t anybody in the free agency that moves the needle
DeMar is good if he could come off the bench. Either way Tyler or Rozier need to go because the team can’t defend with them both on the floor
Absolutely
I think it would be Herro
Imagine every game Jimmy’s out you still got DeMar…yes yes and yes
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lol it’s funny how he’s making derozan sound ok
He would make this team way better herro needs to get traded
Yesssss he still can play today's game
We so desperate smh we not winning no title this season just cut it out wasting time and money 😅
The only way this would be an “acceptable” move is if we move Tyler or Terry to another team with cap space for a pick.
And then sign and trade the other one we keep for Derozan.
I still don’t like it, he does not fit our team.
The irony is Tyler would be needed to make this lineup work.
Why doesn't he fit the team? Cause he doesn't shoot threes? He's 42 % from the corner. PJ Tucker and Jake Crowder were efficient shooter here. Y'all are dumb. This is an all NBA talented and a nuke on offense at times. This is exactly what the heat need. Spo will make it work, he made it work with Wade and LeBron who couldn't hit water if it was wet.
I don’t want derozan either I hope he goes to the lakers or another team but not the heat
Rather trade Tyler and keep Terry
see yall at the 8seed losing the first game of the play in …
You need to go to a 12 Step Program Tobin
Pass
Let Jimmy play that Point Forward role, Put Demar at the 3 with Duncan at the 2, Niko at the 4, and Bam at the 5
I hope he signs for the 5.2. That's what best for heat. And then you can still have everyone, and could trade for Trae young or a collen sexton. That would be dope. And push us for a strong championship. If we can trade Terry Rosier, Duncan and a 1st or 2. For trey or go cheaper and trade rosier and a pick or 2 for collen sexton. This would be dope. Ill be very happy if demar comes in for the 5.2 million.
It's not happening we have the cheapest fucking owner on the whole nba!!!!!! I keep telling y'all micky needs to sell the team at this point it's not so much on Pat the owners not trying to pay up
Man I wish they’d just got all in and trade Jimmy and herro for Devin booker that’s who I want
Everyone not the 8 seed are paying serious money. Us.... not so much 🙄
ATTENTION HEAT FANS and HEAT CRITICS,
if yall don't know how the salary cap works,
Please do your research about it, before yall complain about the TEAM,
More BS talk, but at least this is somewhat realistic.
Demar will contribute much more in regular season, making his value greater than the other big name/face 2a.
Moves nothing. DeRozan is a b tech Butler. Good d and poor 3 point shooter. If you were trading butler for parts he would be a good stop gap but that's it😢
Demar DeRozen is a good defender.. 😮.. Are you high? 😳 🙄 😱.. Must be since the end of the season
@Wilcoranking who you ranking him with Herro? Upgrade
Jimmy Butler for Kawhi
I trade herro to the pistons for Ivey and a first. Then sign D-Ro for 18-20 on a one year.
You'd do it, the Pistons won't
Money wise, going to LA would make better since.
For lebron big mouth az no
Poor Tobin , poor Tua turnover , lmao
I feel like he's going to LA
For what play on lebron's back az,no
He fits in with da heat
Every year the Heat have no money
2 good mid range guys interesting
demar is reliable and can score..
If we are being real tyler herro was a better 6 man when he came of the bench he was better as a starter he’s was ok but was better coming off the bench
If not DeRozan, could we afford Russell Westbrook? Please do something Pat Riley! Please
lol