Tesla Uber Driver Week 2: Making Cash (Or Crying?) | Uber Driver Lyft Driver
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- Tesla Uber Driver Week 2: Making Cash (Or Crying?) | Uber Driver Lyft Driver
Tesla Uber Driver Week 2: Income breakdown, charging challenges, passenger reactions, and tips for electric rideshare. I'm sharing my 2nd week in the Tesla model Y, explaining what I'm experiencing coming out of an gas powered SUV. Hope this helps if you are trying to decide if it's worth it or not to go EV
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Thanks for letting us learn from your experiment. 🙇🏽♂️
No no no LOL, you guys have been teaching me!!! I have all my mentors from the chat and discord brotha!!!
Great video Vinny! Love your content.
I appreciate that! Thank you!
I like the longer format. Especially since it's not monotonous. You changed it up a few times, so that helps. Thanks for the info Vinny.
Thx, sometimes I'm not sure how they will be viewed but this video had alot of info I wanted to get out there. Appreciate ya hanging in there!!!
Watching you at first I was thinking that you going to prease Uber and Lyft but watching to the end, anyway good video and you honest on good work you know the shity work so keep doing what you doing
Great video! And it IS important to see seasoned driver experiences & comments. Thank you
Thank you, I appreciate it! I'm doing my best here haha even if some don't agree with m choices but that's how we learn!
I'm happy for you Vinny! I love @HappyVinny
Happy Vinny??? Who is THAT HAHAHAHA!!
Long format looks great!
Bro, WHERE YA BEEN???? NO LOVE ANYMORE?? We need ya in the Garage o get back over here damn it!!!
You nailed it !!!!!
We try LOL!!!
Interestingly enough, Vinny, while I was down there in the Toyota Corolla rental, I saw a lot of test, le model, wise wrapped in the Freebee company logo. And I was only up and down Islamorada and KeyLargo. So, THEY have some secret charging spot, for sure. Probably not available to us.
Hmmm, I have been seeing those Freebee cars up here also plus Sunrise has a business/entertainment service also, 6 Model X's wrapped in Sunrise adverts. Its almost like they want o put us out of business LOL.
I’m glad is working out for you
That's because I have you guys/gals with me, showing me how it's done!!! Teamwork!!
I agree vinny, in my personal experience, I didn’t like tesla suspension compared to my caddy. It’s stiff. Tesla suspension reminded me of my old prius and corolla suspension
Yeah, coming out of the Caddy I can def feel the road more but its not terrible unless you're on one of those roads HAHAHA.
South Florida has crazy high kw rates. Its scattered all over the place. Aventura mall has $0.15kw after midnight. Just slow. 72kw max. Just keep it in mind
Same thing in Plantation after 12am, $.14 but at that slow 57kW when its supposed to be 150kW LOL. Time is money!!
Hi Vinny. I'm in the Vegas market with my Model Y exactly like yours. I try to charge at the cheapest rate as possible. Thankfully we have some chargers even at peak times with reasonable pricing.
I find it that if you're paying 30+ cents a KWH it doesn't make sense.
When I started in May, we were able to charge at 11 cents. Today I had to charge at 24 cents which isn't too bad. I do miss the below 20 cents times. They change and raise/lower pricing every few weeks. It's crazy.
Also, you'll get questioned to death about the charging etc.
Its slow in Vegas. I try doing comfort and up but have to suck it up and do it with X.
Agreed, that seems to be the #1 question as everyone wants to know about charging. I'm finding that even with a peak charge, I'm still coming out better than if I were filling with fuel. My biggest test is timing the charging so I'm not losing out during peak driving times. Also, comfort has become my bread and butter down here for now. Amazing how different markets can be so hang in there!!
@VinnyKuzz We don't get many comfort rides unless you're at the strip (and premier is slow). If premier is good I stick to that with comfort electric.
Since I got really cheap charging (20-80% for $5-$6) now I'm paying around $10-$13 per charge which is still pretty good. Just letting you know if I had to pay $20, is doable but it starts to hurt, especially on long rides (25-32 miles) you can easily eat 10-15% charge.. So it doesn't make too much sense.
Its fun figuring all of this out lol.
Keep making these vids. I learn a lot
Those longer rides really do eat up the battery, Im learning that as well! I'm normally on comfort, comfort elec and premier and Lyft Blk. @@k3iler05
Pull up, fill up, pull out!
Thats what she said HAHAHAHA
Great Video…….. 🎥
Thx SBR!! We are trying!!!
Good video 👍
Appreciate ya!!! We are trying here to be as honest as possible.
The keys are risky in the Tesla. You got a supercharger in Florida city, and then nothing else until marathon.
We were looking doing some research a few months ago about going down and saw not many chargers available from Tesla and then some were out of order so THAT AINT GOOD LOL. I want to do a rally down there but no one will be able to get back to the mainland, we will all be stranded !!!
My favorite day to Uber would be Sunday I got up early Sunday morning and by 2:00 3:00 could make like $250 bucks I did a lot of airport rides and buy my airport we got tons of superchargers
Yup. Finding the cheap charging times is crucial. Now, sometimes, it doesn’t make sense. I’m not gonna drive far away to save 10 cents a kilowatt. And sometimes, you’re low, and you gotta charge at the nearest station, no matter what price. But, I can tell you this, since the charger by my house in South Miami went down to 16 cents a kilowatt after 12am, I’ve been saving $20-$30 on my weekly rental costs with hertz. It adds up!
I agree! I'm also looking at other third party chargers as well to see which is best. Saving money is the way LOL. ROI is everything.
Approximately $1750 for me this past week. Vinnie you should be using your cadallac until the end of april
I will send a private dm to ya but I have my reasons for doing this at this time LOL.
Not sure how far you are from plantation charger, but after 12 AM up to 4 AM it’s at $.14. Take 40 minutes to an hour at the end of your shift. Vinny and drive home at 100%. You’ll thank me in the morning.
I have done that few times, Its just me trying to time up how I'm working my shifts. Charging is the number 1 concern so switching the schedule up plus still making my money is the trick!!
I have a Model Y and a Lincoln Navigator. I think the Model Y ride is very smooth...not as plush as the Lincoln (of course) but very nice.
Put it in "chill" mode for steering and acceleration and get accustomed to 1-pedal driving so that you're not "herky-jerky" and people will drop the "it's a stiff ride" complaint. I've given 1,000+ rides in my Model Y and nobody has ever said anything about ride comfort.
Always in chill mode HAHA, not on the race track. Our big SUV's def ride better.
I took one trip from doral to fort Myers. 2.15 hrs. 88$ no tips... Never more.
It's crazy what they offer and then we have to drive back empty SMH.
So I’m right here in Jacksonville Florida the way that you do things I really appreciate it so do you think that it would be best that I go ahead and try to test loud and see how things work I do have a question when it shows that the weekly pay is 330 something dollars do you have to include the 200 deposit which equals up to 500 on the day of pick up
Thx, I appreciate the support!!
My rental/lease is $499/week, my first week was a total of $699 w/deposit. Its expensive for sure BUT it gives me the most options for driving with ALL the platforms. The Uber rental only allows you to drive for Uber, which forces you into a box.
I've been saying for months that the pivot is down from the upper platforms because they are reducing payouts for us and even though its reduced down in the middle tiers, we can still make money IF we work smarter.
@@VinnyKuzz so you think it’s best for me to run it through the platform that you’re talking about instead of Uber
The rentals only have the base model you wouldn't believe the acceleration of a dual motor at 450 horsepower in 0 to 60 and 3.7 dual motor long range I can pretty much drive all day on one charge can I charge at home I wouldn't even have one unless I can do that
Hey, I'm picking up my car tomorrow! You may want to check to see what's their referral policy, I did put your TH-cam name down
I haven't heard back about anything regarding referrals BUT I'M glad you are getting your car! Its nice not having to worry about anything other than driving, the focus on making the money! LFG!!!
I believe we should all tell our truth and this. I believe is the truth because if I had excel for lift or Uber on my platform. I can guarantee you. It would send those rides to me and i'm not about to do that either
$.44 per kwh? That’s insane man. Was that peak time? That costs almost as much as your caddy per mile
Yeah, I got lazy the night before haha so I paid the cost on that one. I'm finding the cheaper ones as I go, you know how it is. I will get better with it as I go!
You know me Vinny? I drive a suburban. I'm not about to put myself down on a comfort ride. And while I can tell you. Is this comfort ride wasn't available to that customer? When he had ordered it to go to Tampa. He would have selected premiere and you would have drove him in your cadillac and made more
Im sure thats what happens IF the area they are in is remote or no one is close. I was the second car they got because the first guy told them he didnt have enough charge to do the drive. Funny thing was the ride was offered to 2 different EV drivers instead of a gas car and the pick up was in downtown Ft Lauderdale. Thats a whole other video I'm working on LOL.
Since upfront pricing, shorter rides pay more than (older) time and distance pay while longer rides pay less.
For Miami market;
$40 an hour is unrealistic for comfort driver.
Say you get constant rides, back to back at average of 35 mph you may get low $30 per hour but unlikely.
Same goes for Premier and XL drivers. Over $40 per hour (online hours) is highly unlikely.
Been there, did that for a month with Tesla rental.
Btw, Comfort only pay pennies more than X. May as well do X and Premier rides with your rental.
Actually, comfort rides haven't been that bad and around the $30 to $40 range but remember we are talking "active" hour time not necessarily actual online time, Same for Premier/Blk with an average of $45 to $60. When you did the rental, it was many months ago plus you were learning for the rest of us. We will see how it plays out as its only been 2 weeks, the real test will come down the road.
@@VinnyKuzzthanks for the info. I'm in Fort Lauderdale area and what's the best way to get on Zello and Discord?
L0ve it great video 🎉❤
Doing my best here, it can be a tough crowd so thx for watching!!
My boy rented the Tesla and then a gas car. He said he got way more rides and people were actually talking to him since he had the Tesla. The gas car on the other hand people barely talked and he got rides but not as many as the electric
The Tesla is a talking point on its' own, most people have never been in one so its a crazy experience to them. Now add in the self driving hype, no real dash cluster and the big screen so riders think it Disneyland HAHA.
Low cost charging is the key to unlocking the full benefits of driving an EV. Good hunting my brother!
Commuter!!!! I agree with that also and I'm working on it. We have a $.14 per kW charger down here but its pretty full during those times and always seems to have 1 or 2 units out smh.
My hertz doesn’t offer the model y only model 3 smh
Yeah, Hertz is the Uber only option which makes no sense.
Good video. Rental vs own make the different driving rideshare.I make good money while rent to drive because I would drive to ground long trips plus tips was better than fare. Now I use my own only do XL no money 😢. I am going back w2 . Uber/lyft not worth our time
💯💯💯!!! I agree, it's tough out there to keep good drivers are leaving the apps and going back to where they can make money! Appreciate the comments!!!
Forgive me if im wrong but isnt buying a tesla like half the price of renting one if not less than half? I mean the cars have no maintenance needs besides tires and the motors are rated for 1 million miles?
Yes, they are but at this time interest rates are still too high and I want to be sure it's a vehicle I want to keep regardless of the rideshare apps. Too many time, people will buy a car or truck for Uber and wind up in a bad situation if things don't work out on the apps so we have to be sure. This will be a 3 month experiment and allow the market to come down a bit before I buy.
Are you running the Tesla on Uber and Lyft? Or is it just a Uber car only
Im running Uber and Lyft, mainly Uber comfort, Premier and Lyft Black but depending on surge/bonus or incentives, I might drop down.
So if you somehow make $40/active hour with the rental. You cut that in half after paying for the rental. Then you’re left with 15/20 an hour after paying for insurance and rental and supercharging. NO DEAL!
I haven't worked all the numbers yet, I want to get 3 or 4 weeks in to do the simple math so don't be too harsh yet LOL. With that said, what do most people take home after expenses from their w-2 or other businesses (not counting taxes of course). If I can put $21 or $22 in my pocket AFTER expenses then I can work with that I think but we all have different types of bills/money needs. We will see! Thanks for the comment!!
Someone told me the model 3 is not a luxury car she order premier she couldnt belive when i arrive in the tesla.
Some people have that perception but they have to understand that IF Uber didn't make the 3 a premier vehicle then many of the drivers that rented them, wouldn't have. Drivers need as many options as possible. The 3 is def a Premier vehicle just based on the tech alone.
@@VinnyKuzz yes I agree it's a bloody 40k plus vehicle I was shocked. But vinny what's going on brother I'm here in fort lauderdale and I'm not even getting Uberx 😭😂
Man $500 for rental is wild
It seems that way but in the bigger picture, it's not so bad. My next video will explain it more.
Are you doing X rides with the Tesla?
No, not at this time. I have been getting enough comfort plus the upper platforms to keep me from hitting the X button so far BUT i'm sure at some point it will happen
I always charge at night and it serve me the whole day , i charge for like 15-22/c
Thats the goal!!! Im learning HAHA!
It's crazy how many people don't even know how to get inside of a Tesla or even get out when I rented one it was 500 plus charging and it was usually about 700 owning one is much better I paid 600 a month Plus Insurance 250 the one thing with renting one you can't use the autopilot it's disabled and when I use that people are pretty impressed especially with the new updates and stuff like that the car can literally take you right to your door and also with a rental that doesn't have Auto Park all they have is Comfort in Greensboro but when I go to Raleigh and Charlotte they got comfort Comfort Electric in Uber green which can be probably any kind of any kind of electric vehicle
I get plenty of ooohs and awwws in my 2014 Hyundai accent. I paid $2,700 cash for it. I’m not joking.
I live and drive Uber in Naples feel free to ask anything
The couple of times i've been over there, this was the only time i had requests LOL. Both comfort, same riders haha. They paid decent also, 10 minute rides, about 6 miles for $11 each trip.
Wish they had these Model Y’s and 3’s in San Diego……. Tell them to open up shop down here. Lol
Dom, I'm sure they are watching!!!!
I have model 3 in San Diego. I rent it from Uber Hertz by the airport. San Diego no longer offers premier.
Vinnys right. Time is money. Im down to $10 for 20 min.
No one ever sees it as it is that time is our biggest commodity!!
Bro I drive a Toyota Avalon Hybrid XLE Platinum 38 mpg floats like a butterfly and is quiet AF! I drive A LOT of TESLA owners on my private side. They all ask me on the first ride what kind of car is this? I say! It is a Lexus es 300h with a Toyota emblem on the hood with a bigger trunk then the Lexus. Then I ask I bet this rides better than your Tesla in the garage? and they all say yes and continue to compliment me on my ride! lol
HAHAHA this is the way!! We all have our thing and that's awesome the way you described your whip LOLOLOLOL. Keep it going, make that money!
And oh by the way I do stop after I drop
Hell yeah HAHA
The thing also I think why passengers cancel their Premier when they get a M3 is because the drivers that do rent them don’t have a sense in keeping the car clean and tidy. I’ve picked up one passenger and said that the M3s he’d get in are dirty, and the driver doesn’t speak English too. They know Uber rents them out, and you know how the majority of renters treat their rental, without a care. There was one time I pulled up to a M3 renter while charging, and it reeked of marijuana.
The 3 and the Y are very similar in experience with the Y of course with a little more room. But more often than not the Y is OWNED by the driver and therefore has a pride in ownership. And I’m sure these passengers know that. Every time a Premier passenger gets in my M3, it’s the cleanest and nicest they ever been in they say. As you said, the ooos and ahhs are always there.
Im getting ready to do a video on exactly that, you are spot on!!! It happened to me when I took an Uber and the M3 rental was not presentable. Drivers can be their own worst enemy by not keeping the car clean, regardless of whether its a rental or not.
Don't know bout yall but I've been doing a lot of crying this last month... this uber shyt is suckin ballz!
They have been making it tough out there for sure! Hang in there until something better comes along!
@@VinnyKuzz thanks 🙏
it aint getting better. they hired too many drivers and everyone and thier mama is doing this.
@user-sp2yu9zt6h I don't buy that excuse... put, simply, they're ripping us off!
Do you have a contact over there I have been approved and can’t get in touch with anyone
Everything is by email and text message so make sure you check your spam folders. Also, it take a minute for them to process everything but once they say they are ready, be prepared to act as they move quick then HAHA. Congrats too!!!!
They only have Model 3
I had to wait for the Y for a few weeks, they only have so many of them. I don't know the right answer here or your situation but you will get premier from Uber with the 3.
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So insurance is included right?
yes
@@VinnyKuzz another question can you drive the vehicle for personal use when your not doing rideshare some say yes some saying no?
@jayartis1589 yes, it's a lease agreement. You have to verify you are under the gig space but no minimum ride requirement. I use the car for work and personal driving.
Thank you cause one of their customer service reps told me no but the website is saying yes. Thank you so much for being informative I’ll be getting my vehicle friday
@jayartis1589 Good stuff!!!
From looking at your chart looks like you're not working too many hours Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday maybe I'm wrong look man if you don't put in the hours you are not going to make any money I'm just saying I know because I've done this for a long time I could see the bar graph that you have not worked too many hours but you know that's what you got to do that's what you got
I've been at this part time for a long time myself, I have a schedule I normally work when I'm driving my Caddy. Adjustments will be made for the tesla and the lower platforms. Tier one and tier 2 platforms require more "time" on the road but we will see. Thx for the comment!
WHAT IS THE DEDUCTIBLE OR WRITE OFF ON A UBER RENTAL THROUGH HERTZ FOR TAX SEASON , THE WHOLE RENTAL LIKE IF I PAID $450 DOLLARS AT WEEK INCLUDING INSURANCE ON UBER HERTZ $1800 A MONTH, THATS INCOME THAT IS SHOWING IN YOUR 1099 , BUT YOUR GIVING BACK THAT MONEY TO HERTZ FOR RENTAL IN A YEAR IS $18,900 IS THAT A WRITE OFF, THANKS IN ADVANCE, YOUR COMMENTS IF YOU GUYS KNOW THE ANSWER, BECAUSE I RENTED ONE TESLA FOR 3 MONTHS LAST YEAR 🤔🤔🤔
You don’t get the standard milage deduction of 65 cents because it’s not your car, major drawback of renting. I think you’d be able to write off the money you spend on charging/car washes though? Not sure
The entire rental is the write off as long as its for business ( not financial advice ) Also, your car washes etc can be counted because its a rental. Make sure you check with a tax consultant!!!
@@VinnyKuzz thanks 👍
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I never do events like football games I'll tell you why because you're going to sit in traffic for a whole hour or more for one stupid Fair it's not worth it
100% agree, I call them collection areas because many drivers are all siting there waiting for that unicorn ride while everyone else is trying to get out of there.
Would you by a Teala
Thats the plan don the road when interest rates come back down.
Look people are paying next to nothing for a ride the model 3 is a nice car if they don't like it they can walk hell with them I was thinking of renting a model 3 but that $400 a week I don't like to hear that too much because that's coming out of your pay look you're going to have a stiff ride that battery is very heavy that's one reason to write is probably stiff there's not much you can do about that what kind of range are you getting on a full charge 250 miles be safe out there have a good day my friend
I dunno about you guys. But the lack of noise from an engine makes me feel uncomfortable with passengers. You can hear your stomach grumble or their stomach grumble. I always blast my air so I have even more sound to kill any awkward silent times. I usually have good convo but sometimes they are silent. Being in a Tesla would be super weird for me personally.
I thought it would be weird too when i first got the car but turns out it was all just in my head. I can actually enjoy the music better with a quieter cabin.
😂.... Bro turn on the music... if anything it makes for a pleasant atmosphere people can jam out with you or play DJ and ask them what they want to listen to if they don't want to talk
LOLOLOLOL I like he silence most times when no one is in the car but I hear ya HAHAHA! It is weird at first but now I can hear the motor wind up when moving so there is that LOL.
the market in SF Bay Area has been flooded with Tesla's after uber's $3000 off a Tesla y. They are lyft black as well. Your market will be flooded soon after more and more ytubers do vids like this.
That could be the case but these tesla' are still pretty expensive plus interest rates. With that said, California has the additional tax incentives that Florida does not plus Uber/Lyft are under that mandate to get so many miles from EV's on their books.
As for my video's and market, people are going to do what's best for them as I am here. I only offer my experience so others can make smart decisions for themselves. The content would be here either way, if not me then countless others. Appreciate the comment!!
It should be a requirement for anyone driving an EV to take at few math courses so you all at least know what all those numbers mean.
$0.4+ per kWhr. Woopie de doo! You're not using gas! Yeah but what does it mean, really. How much is all that comfort costing you, as opposed to the offset of renting a Prius. Yes, I know, Teslas are prettier. But if you're pulling all those hours ride sharing, I'm assuming money is very important, right?
Math is truth, numbers don't lie. With that said, the Prius ONLY gets tier 1 rides where as the Tesla Y is giving me Tier 1 plus comfort and Premier, Lyft Blk rides. That's a big difference in earnings potential vs a Prius. As far as kW hour vs gas, so far my fuel cost is down over 50% vs earnings so the numbers work (as of now).
@@VinnyKuzz Thanks so much for the info. You're the only EV ride share driver I've chat with that makes sense. I have a 2017 Model S I'm about to put to work as a side gig just to cover the payment and insurance so I'm going through your channel for any info I can use.
Thanks again.
@migmigjohnson9351 Hope we can help kuzz it's tough out here sometimes LOL. We got this boss!
You just said without tips you'd not even crack $175 being out for 7 to 8 hrs yet you're discussing targeting $40 -$60 an hour. Dude you're making $21 an hour.
I just typed out a response and my internet went out LOL so lets try this again.
There is a big difference between online hours vs active hours, this is always the big debate. Online is where we would like to be at 'x' amount but the reality is we only make money with AIS (ass in seats). My online avg in the low $22ish range but i haven't done the math on the active time yet, I want to get a third week in. Tips are huge for drivers, we know this but we also know that most drivers don't gross 1k/week in any other job. Its tough but we have to be honest about it. Thx for the comment, appreciate it!
Rented Tesla *** should have put it in the title bud 😏
I couldn't fit my daddy in there either but ya know LOLOLOLOLOLOL
AHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHA
@@VinnyKuzz
you’re working to drive in a fancy car wasting over $500 a week you could put in your pocket go buy a $10,000 car pay cash for it be done with it make the money it’s all about making money not taking good money and throwing it away on a rental car doesn’t make any sense to me I do hundreds of rides and make $17 an average ride and making well over $1500 a week before tips doing XL in a little small market called Biloxi Mississippi. We were also getting a dollar a mile minimum and also a Dollar a minute I do eight appointments today. Opportunities scheduled rides in some cases but to teach someone to go out and then $500 a week to make $1000. I would probably reevaluate that I’m just saying I’m your loose cannon remember have a good one man dancing in a while. This is Mr. hundred percent.
I have my reasons for doing this experiment with the lease at the moment (full write off) so while I know what your saying here, there are reasons. Good to know you still remember us little guys down here LOL
@@VinnyKuzz just busting your balls but I wouldn’t tell any broke people to do anything like that. Never try to take money that can be used to pay your bills and get you out of debt to get you right in debt because anybody leasing you anything is taking advantage of you that’s why they call it a lease you’re going to be the person with the least money but it’s all good.
Time is money and Money is Time and to much crying on TH-cam
Don't forget, Money never sleeps!!
@@VinnyKuzz 💯💯💯
I swear its the same movie every january. January sucks balls. Balls. It kind of get better in february but than from march to the first two weeks of may its peak earnings. Than the summer slow down happens than september comes and we are busy again and than the same thing happens all over again...
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