Mercedes Camshaft position sensor p0016, p0017
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In this video I talk about the camshaft position sensor code on Mercedes e350, a common problem on this motors, please watch the whole video so you dont throw money away in this long, painful process, I am also going to have video 2 that will help understand how to do the job. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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David, Thank you so very much for taking your time and answering all my questions. You are one of a kind and I'm grateful for your guidance. You answered all my questions and guided me on the right path. Please create an account so that we can financially support your channel and the time you spend making these great videos. Again, Thank you.
The problem it's NOT the oil pump or cheap oil, it's the quality of the metal (to soft) they used make the balance shaft, well documented everywhere. Great video, tks.
You are absolutely right, the video was done before Mercedes assumed liability
MBT OF ATLANTA Mercedes Master Techs unfortunately they never did the official recall 🤯
great video David ... you are communicating at the perfect level on technical issues and I enjoy your blunt opinion to what is/was the cause of the problem. I am doing the check this weekend and hope for the best. Thank you
Very helpful, very informative video.
I could feel how disappointed you were when you didn't get it at 305, that its taking too long. But dont you worry man it still was a great vid. Thank you very much for your effort!
Wow! I can’t believe how helpful all your merc videos ! Your freakin awesome! I’m a professional mechanic and the time you put into your video are unbelievable! I’ve learned invaluable information that keeps me passionate about mercedes and the engineering that’s is involved in these vehicles,,,,,, I can watch your videos over n over n over Your the best at whut you do!
Stephen Denney thanks for watching my videos, people like you encourage me to continue doing my videos. Thanks.
I wish someone would be "freaking awsome" showing me how to replace the CRANKSHAFT position sensor on a 2005 C230 Kompressor. Everything I seen so far is useless. The sensor is down below the left rear corner of the cylinder head, but how the devil do I get in there?
DIYer great vid
I was getting code p0015 and p0019 on my s550. My mechanic replaced all four crank shaft actuator sensors. Now, I’m getting three new codes, p00016, 18, and 19. Car drives fine and all. Please, help.
Your video helped me big time on my 2008 R350 , Camshaft Adjuster Magnets were bad. Replaced them and no more issues.
Did you have starting problems
This is one of the best videos in Tube, very informative, straight to the point, no other BS like some other jackasses “hey guys look how cute my dog is or how cool my stupid music is.... blah blah blah”
Thank you for your great videos David, I learned a lot from your videos and both my E Classes (2001 and 2011) runs like a clock. You are 1700 miles away from me but if I lived in GA, you’d get my business any day.
Just picked up One of these at an auction today. thank you for your help!
Great vid with important info. You did an excellent job explaining.
Very informative video. Thanks for taking the time to do it. I'm a professional mechanic and have a hard time getting good information. You saved me a lot of time!
glad I could help
This man is a very good teacher.
David, aka Crankshaft God, I loved your video.. I have yet to see a better vid than what you made. Thank you!!!!!
Very grateful for the informative video. Allowed me to rule out the infamous camshaft sprocket balancer issue. Wasn't certain if my ML350 was one of the ones affected, but after oil change with no evidence of metal shavings or pieces and then successfully performing the alignment procedure you provided, I was able to get my issue resolved by just replacing the 2 - bank 1 sensors. P0016 & P0017 codes have gone away and now I can get it smogged. Thank you!
Can you tell which one exactly sensor A and which one B? I mean if we looking on two of them staying with open hood?
@@captain.america yah you can tell in the video he has the code with bank A sensor 1 which then he shows us physically in the motor and the passenger bank is bank 1 and the left sensor is sensor A. I don’t know the orientation of the driver side bank however
Do you know what it means if you did find a small amount of very fine metal shavings In the oil? I changed my oil as soon as I got the code and it said bank 1 sensor A and I performed the test with crank at 305 and both cams were aligned for bank 1 so I just replaced the sensor but now I’m scared to drive it
@@elianangelmoreno Which one is sensor B? If you stand and face the front of the engine is sensor B on the right side, the one that is vertical?
@@nttam1920if your sitting in your car faceing the road the a bank is the left side of the engine the B bank is the right side now if you’re looking at your engine faceing the car then the left side is B bank and right side is A bank
The "recommended oil" that manufacturers put on those stickers is only the highest bidder at the time it was produced. It doesn't mean it is the best oil for the car. It's all marketing. Mobil 1, Titan, Liqui Moly, Castrol, etc are all the same.
the devil is in the details... in case of oil it is in "additives package" mix and viscosity grade.
Everybody swear by xyz oil brand like a religious belief... to each his own.
🙂
MB actually recommends using 0w40 for the M273&272 motors. High mileage versions might benefit from the jump to 5 from 0 weight but only if they eat oil, otherwise stick with the 0w. That's what I've been using on my 135k miles M273 for the past 4 years and it's perfect.
Very detailed explaining the process of checking and problems of a bad balancer.
I have my P0016/P0017 m272 engine swaped, which costs me $3K. Lucky that the problem showed up at 180K mi or 15 years later after i bought the car. I used engineer oil additive to prolong the wear and tear, which seems to work for me. After some premature wear and tear, the Bank #1 CAM timing is advanced and resulted in running hotter. Now everything is back to normal.
What did u swap the 272 with and what it cost u? I have to do it also.
I've got the the death codes p0016 and p0017 together... I'm going to do this test tomorrow but I don't consider myself to be so lucky... LOL I want this guy to do my job! Anyways, keep up the good work and keep the videos coming! This is very helpful!
Kevin Park dude i just bought a 2007 e350 for $1500 the car is mint condition but unfortunately the check engine is on with those two same codes, so my question did you ended up fixing it? and if you did how much did you ended up paying
Sam Otab did u end up fixing it I got the same codes on my 2007 e350 lol
Thank you for the informative video. Looking forward to the next one,
Excellent video, very well explained and camera work, Thank you very much
Your so right bout us always looking the cheap way out that's why our cars is all jacked up🤣🤣 lesson learn thank you much I'll be reaching out to this company I see your located in GA yessssss💯🥰
Thank you so much for sharing this video, very well explained and simple. I am going to test mine tomorrow as I have random missfires on cyl 1 2 3 and P0017 code. I am hoping this is not my case but I have a feeling that this is going to be my problem.
What was your problem
It jumped a few teeth, I did the test and the right circle aligns perfect but the left one doesnt. At least I know now that it needs a new timing kit. Your video was very helpful to diagnose. Thank you.
as always excellent video with precise details. thanks
Thank you for your video. But I was wondering if these have been a common code reading's for the 2008 E350 Mercedes?
I did this test and got lucky, mine lined up perfectly! Thanks for the video.
Did you get fault codes? Replaced the sensors?
Did you replace the sensor and did the code go away
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I see... Thank you for getting back. I live in California. Can I plug in a code reader to perhaps trace issue?
I watched your video on the p0016 and p0017 codes. The stamps on the camshafts were both in the center. Mine is pulling up just the p0016 code. Which sensor would that be on the right side. The one closer to the fender or the one closer to the center of the engine.
I have a 2011 C300, the engine and location of the camshaft sensor seem to be the same. do I need to replace both? or are there 4? I did see a video where they replaced the sensor, and the problem was fixed. Do you have to turn the crankshaft when doing the replacement?
Hi. My check engine light is on in my 2010 Mercedes GLK 350 4MATIC. I ran the test codes and comes back P0017. The car drives fine, other than little rough idle on a colder day. Not super rough. I erased the codes, had the oil changed and still comes back on after a few miles. Do you think I should replace the sensor or first do this test? I just need it to pass emissions here in ATL.
Thanks
I had codes on my m272 engine that indicated that I had a balance shaft issue like he is describing. I pulled the cam sensors and checked to see the small circle stamps through the hole and noticed on bank 2 my cam adjuster was clicking and spitting oil from the front and on bank 1 exhaust camshast timing mark was way off. I changed both the exhaust camshaft actuators and the timing marks came spot on and ran perfect! Things aren't always what they seem.
Yup, I have the GL450 and thats what people are saying it is the cam adjusters NOT the balancer. Well, I'm off to start this job and I hope mine is the same problem you had.
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If you get into changing the cam adjuster do all of them. Mine has 2 intake and 2 exhaust. More importantly make sure all timing marks like up perfectly and rotate the engine a few times and recheck timing marks befor starting it.
Hello, my 2007 c230, 2.5 v6. Is lined up at 305 degrees with the circles in the center but I still have the codes. Should I replace the sensors?
Excellent video, very well explained, it helped me a lot. Thank you very much
69vochito thank you very much for watching. People like you keep me motivated to do more videos.
Hey I was driving on a highway when my car stopped running and wouldnt turn on, it turns over but does not start. I have a 2007 E350, I checked my engine # and its above the “infected” engines by a lot. I did not check the holes yet but do you think it might be something else?
The crankshaft pulley uses a 27mm socket.... he should've mentioned that in the video.
Other than that, great video!!
Kamyar Movaffagh I’ll buy me a 27mm socket now. Thanks for the input.
If you dont have a 27mm socket. Dont even try to work on a mercedes
I have a 2006 C230 with these codes. CEL has been on for a while with no negative effects. Recently, however, it started misfiring in cylinder 3 and 5, which was noticeable. I am going to replace coils, plugs and wires first to solve the misfire issue, but do you have any other thoughts? How necessary is the repair if the circles do not line up as you have shown in the video? Thank you!
Thanks for the video, learned a lot. Btw do you know what size the crankshaft bolt is?
Hi sir, I have a 06 CLK350 with 118k miles and I'm getting P0016/17 as well as p0021 codes. I also had misfire codes on the entire passenger side bank however the car had no misfires. I went ahead and replaced the spark plugs all around regardless and I'm still getting the misfire codes even though the car has little to no vibration and feels factory new. I don't think it is the timing shaft or Ballance shaft and I've just had the intake manifold replaced 8k miles ago and I've done everything I can to try and figure out my problem. I've disconnected the battery to reset the codes but they all still popped up when I reconnected it. The car is not sluggish or shaky at all and is still very peppy and I'm only getting a solid Check engine light. Do you have any recommendations as to what I should do? I'm truly stumped. Any response would be greatly appreciated.
David gr8 video. I have a 2010 E350 and having engine start problems occasionally. The battery and alternator have been checked as good.My engine has failed to start on several occasions after the car has been driven or on the first start of the day. I am baffled by this,do you have any suggestions? Thank you
I have a 2006 E350 with 153,000 miles. An original balancing shaft would not last 150,000 miles correct? Car drives and idles great. Do you believe the camshaft adjuster magnets could be the issue? I want to try the Titan oil because after I did an oil change one time the light went away (battery was not disconnected at all but the codes came back.) Besides the balancing shaft what else could be the issue?
Awesome and helpful video by an awesome mechanic,thanks so much
Hello David, I have a 2006 Mercedes ML350, I did all the checking you have mentioned and I have the two round marks you have mentioned, I seen one circle but did not see the other one, my questioned is can you tell me all the parts and gasket I would need to replace the balancer, I have a mechanic said he would do it, I just need the part list and gasket list. I already have the oil and filter, anti freeze, power steering fluid, I know those are the basic stuff. I just need to know so I can order the original parts for the job. By the way, your doing a good job, thank you for the tutorials.
The cause is a gear on the balance shaft inside the motor made of inferior material that wears down after a short amount of time and causes the camshaft to lose it's alignment. Oil grade is for lubrication of the metal parts inside of the engine and slight cooling, only! But the video is correct to a certain degree.
First of all thank alot from you informative videos , i also have these code P0016 and P0017 and my vehicle is w204 2012 so mechanic's told me to change the camshafts adjuster both intake and exhaust now I'm confused what should i do.
Please reply, thanks
Is it should adjust the timing chain but how the camshaft position may runaway ? Great video. Thanks
My friend what happens if they do a line then I have to replace the sensor?
dis way = clockwise, counter clockwise = dat way
onlytoloveyou1 The guy knows his Mercedes engines though.
Hello can you do this job for mines please let me know I can have my Mercedes towed to your shop....
I like his knowledge no matter how his accent is. Great job sir on your videos.
Lefty loosey righty tighty
Thanks for the information! really helped.
Will this procedure also work to diagnose a P0025 (factory code 0064) continuous cam adjustment left bank, incorrect position of exhaust cam? Or is there a similar procedure for the left bank?
So, if the circles are centered, does that mean it is still in time?
Is it true if the car is low on oil, with that give you a code p0016?
Hi , what is the noise when we start the can ? As the timing chain ? But shorter sound ?
Thanks for sharing ! I have a 2007 c230 2.5l and this car had a service due to a camshaft gear defective , the dealer covered almost close to the total repair a few years ago After about 4,000 miles I have a code Po012 and PO0015 bank 1. I thought it could be the magnets or sensors. Do you know a way to test them , before replacing all? thank you again !
Thanks for this I have a 07 e350 is this code the same as camshaft out of permissible limit?
On the 2013 gl450 the cam sensors are on the top of the valve cover for bank one. I’m getting only one code p0016. Does this mean I can do the same test on my motor or will it be different?
Mine has the same code ! Does this work for the left side also ??
I did everything you said in this video. The two circles align , I changed oil and replaced sensors and solenoids however the p0016 p0017 still come up . What else could it be?
Hey is this the same process for 2010 cls550???
Awesome video. I know you probably get a lot of questions regarding this video and know you are probably a busy guy. I thought I would at least try and ask you what you might think about my situation. I think I may have a similar issue on my 2008 C300 but the error codes I am getting are p0060 and p0064 my check engine light is no off and the car runs just fine. I took the car to my local shop and they told me that they saw that a camshaft sensors was leaking oil. They then told me that the standard practice for this issue is to replace all 4. My question would be is this acceptable? should I just clean the sensor off, should I just replace the sensor that was leaking oil or should I replace all 4? Thank you
Thank you sir, good job and details.
I use Amsoil 5W-40 Full European synthetic since new and my 1999 ML320 just hit 359,000 miles !
So can you please tell me, that you said on the video if its little bit ,in that case its fine it's ok. I have been check both side of the engine, right side both was in the middle exaxly. Left side was one of it exactly on the middle the one on the left hole was lets say 2mm on the side but not really much. I got today engine light on. Deleted it after drive stop and start again it came back. I changed the cam sensors from left to the right. Right now did not show up the engine light. What i supposed to do? I just bought it today. You think it would be probably the cam sensors?engine runs perfect no shaking no power lose, very smooth. What should I do?
Codes was same p0017 and p0016
how about the 2002 1.8l c230 komppresor cps and magnet ?
Hello Mercedes Benz Techs, I have this problem 2 times. While driving, the check engine light comes up. I made a test with computer and the error was p0016 . I delete the error, and after 2 months it comes again, " check engine", this time i didn't made the test computer, after 1 miles, the "check engine light" was removed . But when i made the computer test , it was memorized the same error. What will be your opinion? do i have problem with the Cam shaft position?
i have Mercedes ML 350, Year 2006, 58.000 Miles.
I will preciate your opinion. thanks
Great video! Learned a lot!!!
Great video!
I am a former MB Tech and I have never done this job. I have a Master MB tech friend that does them and he gets $3,800 to do this job. The dealers here charge significantly more. Nothing a novice should attempt.
Hi from dubai. Can you suggest which mercedes engine n gear box are reliable for long run
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Is there a difference between this code and P0015?
Very good video david god bless you
Hi David, I have the same problem on my 2006 r350, (same codes) could you please give me a ball park figure of the cost for you guys to fix it, the car is running fine now but I just want to know to schedule the fixing.
Hi David, what if i only have p0017 bank 1 B, could it be bad sensor? Thanks
Hii, I got check engine light and in OBD scan it says @the posotion of the intake camshaft deviates from the specified value in direction retarded during cold start'' is it camshaft position sensor or other issues pls reply
Bonjour
Do you think that without the converter the automatic BV and the flywheel we can have enough
place for dismounting the plate of the cranshaft and the balance shaft and install the back part of
the balance shaft and then avoid keeping out the engine ???
second why it's necessary to change the back of the balance shaft if you change the distribution
chain and some other parts in the front of the engine.
For me it's clear the new back part is the same like the old.
Last question the sprocket lose its teeth , why it 's so important if you can adjust the timing chain
for the right bank and the left bank ( admission camshaft and exhaust camshaft ) correctly.
It seems to me that it's not so important that the sprocket have teeth or no because of the tensionner.
I think the problem come from the tensionner. The origin adjustement is too strong so the sprocket become
tired and used little by little.
I hope i don't take too much of your time with my questions.
best regards Pierre
I need a video on a clk 350 2006 harmonic balancer removal
Thank you so much was very helpful to explain to the customer
scene one cam is on time and one cam is not on time would that not be that the cam advance is stuck on one cam. if the cam on the left of the engine was off on both then the balance shaft teeth are gone because the chain would have more slack? the teeth where not hardened properly during manufacturing on the balance shaft. thanks for the video like it a lot.
Good video and highly helpful!!
Do you think it's impossible to change the back counter weight when you keep out the BV and the flywheel
If it' s possible many people who have the problem of the balance shaft will win a lot of money by following
a precise tutoriel of how doing that job.
Moreover i am thinking how can the sprocket be used like that ??? what is the root cause if you have any idea with explanations !!!
I think of the tensioner ???
best regards
Thanks for the video! Great information. Can you tell me how I check to see if the sencor is bad? Or do I simply see if the circles alien? If thye do the sencor is BAD??? How do I knonw its not the magnet? Also if one side is bad do I have to chane both on the one side or all four?? Any help you can provide would be greatly appriciated. Thanks
Irish770 irish770 is your Problem being Solve the issue
Would it be the same for bank 2?
My engine runs good and no Leaks but I do have an engine light on ..cam shaft cranking correlation sensor A&B are indicating note I have no leaks and th engine starts smooth do I have an expensive repair or just a minor thing
Hello David
Your video help me so much and saved me a lot of time.
I have 2006 R350
I had 2 trouble codes p0016 and p0017
I removed the cane sensors and I put it in 305 degree and looked to see if the small circles aligned either the camshaft sensor wholes.
It was perfectly aligned . It was right in the middle.
I switched the camshaft sensors from the drives side to the passenger side. But I’m still getting the same trouble codes.
Is it possible that the magnet sensors is the problem??
george Tushman what year is your car
Where do I find the degree of where to set the crankshaft For example you have 305
thanks for this i did what you did and the numbers align perfect appreceite it
Very informative. Thanks
I have exactly the same problem with my Mercedes e350 2006 my mechanic replaced the sensor but it did not fix the problem where is your shop?
Just a quick question, what ratchet attachment and size would I need to rotate the crankshaft to 305 degrees on a 2006 Mercedes C230 (M272)?
27 mm
Hi there I have changed the balancer shafts i found the teeth worn out but the code still on p0017 P0016. How 🤔 ❓️ to do .should I change the vvt cam
Great video I have cls550 code poo16, poo17, and p2610 do you think it will be the same issue as you showing here?
All Tsab it can be only timing chain
I am getting this code and have done what you did. The circles are aligned in my car. What is the problem?? Is it the sensors misreading????
Is there a way to contact u I have a r350 with this issue but it's making a whining sound
I have a 2007 r350 and getting both codes P0016 and P0017 and people are telling me to replace the ism
Thank you for the help,put 4 magnets and 4 new sensors and the check engine light came back on rite away,I'll do the test but would it help to put the titan oil in now before test or is it too late?
I did the same thing to my Customer's car and it didn't fix the problem.
excelent video ........... excelent info...........thanks
Where is the location of Bank 1 Sensor B in my ML350 2011? I have the P0017 code. Apparently the above sensor is not working. The circles are perfectly aligned with the holes at 305 in my ML350.
Thank you for the Video.
Hi David. Great Video. I have a 2006 ML350 V6 with 55,000 Miles, P0016 & P0017 diagnostic codes. Wondering where you are based and how much do you charge to fix this if the balancer needs replacement. Thanks.
Please I need to see timing March ml 4matic 350
Hi, thank you for your videos. I can't imagine that i bought a 2006MB e350 wagon with errors codes p0016, p0017, p2004 and p0019. Only after watching your videos that i realized that i made a big mistake. I also already spent a lot of money on the car fixing and replacing parts. How can you help fixing the errors codes?
Thanks you in advance,
what if the circles ling up as they should?
hello thanks for the vid, i have a 06 e550 amg sportpack, i have the same check engine coming up , but it makes no differance to how the car runs it still drives perfact never missed a beat i can drive 4 hours non stop and never have a problem with the car still showing check engine would you think it could still be the balancer ? or maybe a sensor ? im looking for some help im hoping you could advise me what you think i would really appreciate your reply kindest regards.
Same problem i have no clue
I have a 2006 c230 & have just gotten these 2 codes (P0016 & P0017). We just changed the oil with the Mobil 1 synthetic oil & the codes still appear after being cleared as you mentioned they may. Previously, I received 2 codes (P1200 & P1208) which appear to be very similar codes. Can you recommend if I should get this work done or just invest in another car? Or, do you have any other suggestions that I'm not considering? My car seems to be running very "rough" & I don't want to get stuck in LAX traffic. Thank you very much!
I can't make financial decisions for you but I can tell you that a repair can cost around $4,000 and if done right you should have a good running car for long time.
Hello Mercedes Benz Techs. Wonderfull video, thanks for it. I have a C280 Avantgarde Sport 2006, and have the same vibration problem. The car runs OK but when in neutral vibration is there. They scanned it and said was a missfire. Could missalignment be the problem? Do I always have to check for 305 degrees alignmen? Thans
Iván Medina you need to check what causing the misfire first.. bad coil? Bad spark plug? Or out of timing? You need a professional diagnosis first
I'm getting these codes and also it always says that my oil is low...but my oil is new and topped off...however, the car runs great and is getting 28mpg