I'm hyped for Megalovania's one and only appearance in DeltaRune to end up being in something like honksong, and for said appearance to specifically only include the first 4 notes
@@churro1201(spoiler light) homestuck is a webseries made by Andrew Hussie, which features 4 kids as they do such activities, as get stuck at home, get unstuck, and prepare to meet their makers. Homestuck is indirectly related to undertale/deltarune bc toby fox worked on some of the songs
im pretty sure we knew all the other letmotifs but I never noticed the undertale one that's some pretty good hearing, considering its only 1 second long
@@Double400 i've seen a tweet about that one. it was a specific part of that theme that sounds like the "the promise in our hearts/i'm with you in the dark" part of Don't Forget
Ok that snippet of the undertale transition in welcome to the city makes me think its gonna show itself more and more leading up to chapter 7 And asriel returns in a week...
I think “Digital Roots” has “Your Best Nightmare” in it. It’s kind of hidden as ambient noise in the track, but if you listen to that, and then play the start of “Your Best Nightmare,” they both have the same tune-
hi! great video, i just wanted to come here to mention one leitmotif you missed, in giga size the drum beat that kicks in at 0:15 has the same rhythm as ASGORE at 0:34 (the main melody at this part). It also appears in heartache, but i find the asgore one more clear. Giga size - th-cam.com/video/_bVl2e-Wxzg/w-d-xo.html ASGORE - th-cam.com/video/qrtt7mgwCTw/w-d-xo.html
Fun fact: that one interpolated part of "Undertale" in "WELCOME TO THE CITY" also appears in "74" by Itoki Hana, which Toby Fox composed and did guest vocals for, while the chorus of "74" is itself interpolated by the intro to "WELCOME TO THE CITY".
You forgot "Asgore/Heartache" in Giga Size and "Your Best Nightmare" in the Queen Castle basement ambience Edit: You also forgot "SAVE The World" motif in the "Begining", and obviously "Gasters theme" in "Another Him" Edit 2: My mistake, the video is Chapter 2 only, though its still worth mentioning
In the Queens basement if you listen closely you can hear Omega Flowey's theme but it's slowed down using a lower pitch instrument. Just thought it was interesting since this video is going over Undertale motifs in Deltarune
I am so hyped for the "Minor Leitmotifs" video. A Real Boy! will probably have a note saying that MM cried during it ;) 1:20 Ah so it was just the Latter 6 Notes. That explains it 1:38 This was the Snoresong of DR. Also played in it's second chapter. Hmmmmm.... 2:12 I couldn't hear dogsong sadge. Headcanon: The Man is the one playing this. Or the SOUL is hallucinating these themes inside the noise. 2:27 Well, yes, but this is specifically the grandpa[s/t]emi.ogg leitmotif. Was in the demo, y'know. inb4 I say the same for Pathetic House, even if it is Ghost Fight 3:27 I still didn't know it was there. I will need to look at sheet music 3:36 You missed Burn in Despair on Giga Size
Love how the Dummy! lietmotifs in Big Shot only emphasize how much Spamton is a literal puppet. Honksong's such a dumb song and yet it has so many motifs thrown into it just because. xD I love how even as a cop Napstablook's still making music. What a chill jailbreak alarm. For the Welcome to the City and Undertale one, I've made comparisons but I doubt that's an intentional reference.
This may be a stretch, But I'm 100% confident that it was intentional. You can hear a VERY tiny bit of CORE in BIG SHOT Listen carefully to the glockenspiel in the background of this part of CORE: th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxtW4NAMuYo5wtua4ZeFHtBFD-PKUeaTPU Now listen EXTREMELY carefully to the synth in this part of BIG SHOT that's playing the same melody. It's very very quiet but it's absolutely there. th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxy6w-vaimxvn3Su4aADxNnvl_81OIMwiX
the main melody is using The World Revolving leitmotif and the one behind it is Battle Against a True Hero/Power of NEO leitmotif, I don't hear anything that sounds like CORE
There's also burn in despair near the beginning of giga size though that's probably just myself By the way, could you consider doing an "all ch1 motifs in ch2" video?
The songs in Honksong.ogg are relevant to the situation, for Spear of Justice Undyne is there, Dogsong because the dog caused the accident and kinda Metal Crusher (cars are basically robots) the outlier is Your Best Friend. Any theorys what this could signify welcome!
It makes sense that Spamton's theme has a sample from Dummy... because on a certain level, he does turn out to be a puppet! I noticed that descending set of seven notes in Welcome to the City because when I listened to the track "Undertale," I would always wait for them to appear and sometimes sing them in places they didn't.
This video and the one for the first chapter were awesome! I really hope you do this for future chapters. If Tobey uses his theme in future chapters I’m gonna cry
Ahh still remember hearing your best friend in the honking I was with my cousin and thought I was just hearing things. Then let it loop and started hearing other stuff
THANK YOU for pointing out that UNDERTALE is im Welcome to the city! I've seen no one point it out yet noticed it when the first version was posted on twitter 2 years before chapter 2 came out. I also think that the start of welcome to the city (2:56 to 3:08 in the above vid) sounds very similar to the undertale title theme and i was convinced they shared a motif in that portion for a long while (but i think the notes are too different). one part that i think does match up with part of undertale/title theme is 3:04 to 3:05 (the three notes played fast)
Half of Me: oh come on there's got to be something he missed Other half of me: made a literal list of the leitmotifs and had no other undertale ones in there Another half of me: but wait what about powers combined that sounds like stronger monsters kinda I mean if you change it a bit Fourth half of me: why do I have four halves -_-
"Undertale" in "Welcome to the City" was the first thing I noticed on this track. I even wrote about this under the video about minor motifs in Undertle (in which you also missed the Hotel and Can You Really Call This A Hotel).
It still uses the notes in the same places as they were originally, having all seven placed at the last measure with the first eighth note missing It's different from saying that any four notes are Gaster's theme
@@spamtonneo4630 Why? Because it's just too annoying and adds nothing of value to the video. So please, with all due respect, go spam somewhere else, or even better, don't spam at all
interesting that beside from the joke songs and welcome to the city (which i thought was a bit of a stretch), the song that has undertale references in it also happens to be the one that plays when you fight a boss whose connections with strange entities are talked about often
Do we take Gaster's theme as an Undertale leitmotif? Because while it is notorious for being so simple you can hear it everywhere if you try, you won't convince me it's not in ANOTHER HIM, Darkness Falls and Flashback.
OMG I just discovered a leitmotif of the song "Don´t forget" in the song "Snowdin Town" (from undertale obviously), I don't know how to place it but in a part of the middle of the song when it ends you hear the rhythm of "don ´t forget, i´m with you in the dark ", I swear it is true (and I had discovered it when I was playing the pacifist route lmao).
I think you definitely missed this but there are 2+ others with undertale leitmotifs. Beginning, and Before the story, which both contain the "once upon a time" leitmotif.
I still feel like The Core is in someway a part of BIG SHOT. It's like it you used the same instrument for two different songs. It's a different tune, but the same feeling.
Question. Not super on-topic but this is the most recent Deltarune leitmotif video so figured I'd ask it here, and also mentioning it to you since you're good with this music stuff: Think there's any sort of hidden connection between Bluebird of Misfortune, and Flashback Excerpt from the Weird Route? Since it's called Flashback Excerpt, and in the game files Bluebird of Misfortune is called Berdly Flashback, I thought who knows, maybe they have a similar sound if you do some speed/tone messing with them, kinda like Undertale Main Theme and The Choice, though they aren't exactly the same, neither are Welcome to the City and Welcome to the City (Weird Route Version), so who knows.
gee i wonder if the person who uploaded this did the same for chapter 1 almost two years ago and included You Can Always Come Home there... a bit of digging wouldn't cause any trouble.
also dont forget the sound in BIG SHOT that sounds like someone saying "gay" thats actually the saound asrials sword makes during the bossfight at the end of the pacifist route
I'm hyped for Megalovania's one and only appearance in DeltaRune to end up being in something like honksong, and for said appearance to specifically only include the first 4 notes
@Snas the Skletno classic tony fawks
Toby would eiðer put meglovania as a þeme for a genocide boss ðat dies on ðe first turn. Or make it ðe real final genocide boss þeme.
@@churro1201 what is that. is that a homestuck quirk
@@wolf0s617 It is called ð and þ. ð is used in """the th sounds""" and þ is used in """thought th sounds."""
What is a Homestuck?
@@churro1201(spoiler light) homestuck is a webseries made by Andrew Hussie, which features 4 kids as they do such activities, as get stuck at home, get unstuck, and prepare to meet their makers. Homestuck is indirectly related to undertale/deltarune bc toby fox worked on some of the songs
Giga Size also incorporates elements from Asgore’s theme which itself includes the Heartache leitmotif.
Now that I think about it I guess it does. Not the melody but the rhythm. Same with Burn In Despair from Undertale.
Your pfp looks like Rohan kishibe's hair
Double motif!
0:06
Oh, how sweet, letters that stay bright, when everything fades to dark spell out Christmas
Wha?
@@samuelwhitmill161 kind of late but pay attention to the letters that dont fade
The fact that Dummy of all things is used in reference to Spamton is insane. Literally making me shake and cry.
"Chill Jailbreak Alarm" would be more closely compared to "Pathetic House", since it's just a club remix of that tune.
I think they're generally in order of OST appearance
It sounds similar to Spider Dance too.
@@Cruxin if that was the case battle against a true hero would be listed instead of power of NEO
its just kind of a weird thing
@@PipesTheVlob in that case the instruments are closer i guess? but yeah i cant imagine them caring about consistency that much i guess
It sounds like, exactly like spider dance near the end
im pretty sure we knew all the other letmotifs but I never noticed the undertale one
that's some pretty good hearing, considering its only 1 second long
Did you notice Burn in Despair on Higa Size?
Welcome to the City sounds a lot like Snowdin Town sometimes, pretty sure it's just a coincidence
And Snowdin town kind of sounds like Don't Forget
@@Double400 i've seen a tweet about that one. it was a specific part of that theme that sounds like the "the promise in our hearts/i'm with you in the dark" part of Don't Forget
I don't know, I always feel loke some parts take a lot from snowdin's theme. And wasn't it there where the weird route with Noelle starts?
Ah yes, *snow* din
When does it sound like Snowdin
"Digital Roots" has the "You Idiot" leitmotif and "Powers Combined" has "Stronger Monsters"
Someone else noticed it!
Was coming here to say this, I realized the “you idiot” leitmotif but not the two others.
Finally someone know abt stronger monsters leitmotif
I never noticed that hopes and dreams in welcome to the city, nice detail! Cool video as always.
Its... Undertale... Not hopes and dreams... Why does everyone think every motif in hopes and dreams originate every motif before it
@@leedlelel2373 the video literally says Undertale / Hopes and Dreams is the motif for Welcome to the City :/
@@some1games the video only says undertale...
@@leedlelel2373 oh sorry, not the video itself. check the video chapters. in the description, it says hopes and dreams alongside undertale :)
@@some1games oh
Oh well :p
Ok that snippet of the undertale transition in welcome to the city makes me think its gonna show itself more and more leading up to chapter 7
And asriel returns in a week...
honestly undertale and Welcome sound really cool besides each other
They'd sound even better in the same key
Media tried, but they're not
@@PajamaCat4 I really hope someone does a mashup of both two songs put in the same key. They compliment each other really well
Props to the guy that randomly honked the start of metal crusher
I've been curious about this for a while. Thanks :)
I think “Digital Roots” has “Your Best Nightmare” in it. It’s kind of hidden as ambient noise in the track, but if you listen to that, and then play the start of “Your Best Nightmare,” they both have the same tune-
hi! great video, i just wanted to come here to mention one leitmotif you missed, in giga size the drum beat that kicks in at 0:15 has the same rhythm as ASGORE at 0:34 (the main melody at this part). It also appears in heartache, but i find the asgore one more clear.
Giga size - th-cam.com/video/_bVl2e-Wxzg/w-d-xo.html
ASGORE - th-cam.com/video/qrtt7mgwCTw/w-d-xo.html
Shouldn’t count that one if we’ve spent 6 years not counting “Burn In Despair!” for having the same drum beat as that part of ASGORE
and no one ever talks about how they missed a dummy letimotif
cool "christmas" easter egg at the beginning
Fun fact: that one interpolated part of "Undertale" in "WELCOME TO THE CITY" also appears in "74" by Itoki Hana, which Toby Fox composed and did guest vocals for, while the chorus of "74" is itself interpolated by the intro to "WELCOME TO THE CITY".
Bruh, can't believe they didn't show the sans. leitmotif in sans. smh
You forgot "Asgore/Heartache" in Giga Size and "Your Best Nightmare" in the Queen Castle basement ambience
Edit: You also forgot "SAVE The World" motif in the "Begining", and obviously "Gasters theme" in "Another Him"
Edit 2: My mistake, the video is Chapter 2 only, though its still worth mentioning
They did not forget Your Best Nightmare. It's addressed in the description.
Can't believe I never noticed the "Undertale" leitmotif in "Welcome to the City"
In the Queens basement if you listen closely you can hear Omega Flowey's theme but it's slowed down using a lower pitch instrument. Just thought it was interesting since this video is going over Undertale motifs in Deltarune
*_I never noticed the Undertale motif in the City's theme!!! That was eye-opening._*
I hadn't even caught that one riff from Track 71 in Welcome to the City but now I can't unhear it
There is also Home in You Can Always Come Home, and the jingle in Undertale/Welcome To The City also appears in Hopes And Dreams
Fun fact: in the disclaimer of the video, some letters glow up before they fade, and they spell "Christmas".
I am so hyped for the "Minor Leitmotifs" video. A Real Boy! will probably have a note saying that MM cried during it ;)
1:20 Ah so it was just the Latter 6 Notes. That explains it
1:38 This was the Snoresong of DR. Also played in it's second chapter. Hmmmmm....
2:12 I couldn't hear dogsong sadge. Headcanon: The Man is the one playing this. Or the SOUL is hallucinating these themes inside the noise.
2:27 Well, yes, but this is specifically the grandpa[s/t]emi.ogg leitmotif. Was in the demo, y'know. inb4 I say the same for Pathetic House, even if it is Ghost Fight
3:27 I still didn't know it was there. I will need to look at sheet music
3:36 You missed Burn in Despair on Giga Size
Knock You Down !! also uses Enemy Approaching's motif I believe.
Big shot has like
- World Revolving
- Power of Neo
- Dummy
- some Napstablook theme
Love how the Dummy! lietmotifs in Big Shot only emphasize how much Spamton is a literal puppet.
Honksong's such a dumb song and yet it has so many motifs thrown into it just because. xD
I love how even as a cop Napstablook's still making music. What a chill jailbreak alarm.
For the Welcome to the City and Undertale one, I've made comparisons but I doubt that's an intentional reference.
This may be a stretch, But I'm 100% confident that it was intentional.
You can hear a VERY tiny bit of CORE in BIG SHOT
Listen carefully to the glockenspiel in the background of this part of CORE:
th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxtW4NAMuYo5wtua4ZeFHtBFD-PKUeaTPU
Now listen EXTREMELY carefully to the synth in this part of BIG SHOT that's playing the same melody. It's very very quiet but it's absolutely there.
th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxy6w-vaimxvn3Su4aADxNnvl_81OIMwiX
ur definitely reaching
the main melody is using The World Revolving leitmotif and the one behind it is Battle Against a True Hero/Power of NEO leitmotif, I don't hear anything that sounds like CORE
@@NoriakiCuckyoin It's EXTREMELY quiet. Try listening again VERY closely behind The World Revolving and Power Of NEO.
@@NoriakiCuckyoin Compare them again th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxlZ2HMDvEGMhzLHwVO-Fj0Blsr3w6bdsX
There's also burn in despair near the beginning of giga size
though that's probably just myself
By the way, could you consider doing an "all ch1 motifs in ch2" video?
welcome to the city and undertale(song) actually go really good together
The songs in Honksong.ogg are relevant to the situation, for Spear of Justice Undyne is there, Dogsong because the dog caused the accident and kinda Metal Crusher (cars are basically robots) the outlier is Your Best Friend. Any theorys what this could signify welcome!
My theory: your best friend is there because funny
@@nuepisode4781 maybe because Kris is on their way to meet with their friends
No one is gonna talk about 3:07 sounds like the unholy drop in the beginning of "Hopes and Dreams"?
You forgot that the Deltarune song “sans.” features the Undertale leitmotif “sans.”
It makes sense that Spamton's theme has a sample from Dummy... because on a certain level, he does turn out to be a puppet!
I noticed that descending set of seven notes in Welcome to the City because when I listened to the track "Undertale," I would always wait for them to appear and sometimes sing them in places they didn't.
I’m not sure if anyone noticed but if you pause at 0:06, you can see some letters illuminate for an extra second, they spell out “Christmas!”
I love the editing with the deltarune UI
This video and the one for the first chapter were awesome! I really hope you do this for future chapters. If Tobey uses his theme in future chapters I’m gonna cry
Ahh still remember hearing your best friend in the honking I was with my cousin and thought I was just hearing things. Then let it loop and started hearing other stuff
Deltarunes main leitmotif is part of undertales "you can always come home" song
Burn In Despair also seems to appear in the song that plays when everyone joins the Thrash Machine before the Giga fight.
Fun fact. In the song sans. you can hear sans's leitmotif
Christmas! At the beggining, the the letters that stand out more while the others are facing spell this.
Queens basement theme has your best nightmare
Giga sized is riffing off burn in despair
I thought of doing this vid back in the days, cool that someone did it !
Edit : btw where’s the part 1 ? for DR chap 1
@@spamtonneo4630 ok
Me too
@@notkyoze and there’s the legs leitmotif in checker dance
Great video can't wait for the next.
in the last one, you can VERY clearly hear gaster. Crazy
THANK YOU for pointing out that UNDERTALE is im Welcome to the city! I've seen no one point it out yet noticed it when the first version was posted on twitter 2 years before chapter 2 came out.
I also think that the start of welcome to the city (2:56 to 3:08 in the above vid) sounds very similar to the undertale title theme and i was convinced they shared a motif in that portion for a long while (but i think the notes are too different). one part that i think does match up with part of undertale/title theme is 3:04 to 3:05 (the three notes played fast)
I think theres THE WORLD REVOLVING Leitmotif in Big shot too
2:01 when the Dogsong motif started playing my dogs started to make noises lol
I love the way virtually each song is connected to each other
Also has The World Revolving playing throughout too
In Flashback (Snowgrave) the melody for gaster's theme can kinda be heard in the background.
Half of Me: oh come on there's got to be something he missed
Other half of me: made a literal list of the leitmotifs and had no other undertale ones in there
Another half of me: but wait what about powers combined that sounds like stronger monsters kinda I mean if you change it a bit
Fourth half of me: why do I have four halves -_-
big shot started playing and i forgot this was a letimotifs video and started vibing lol
"Undertale" in "Welcome to the City" was the first thing I noticed on this track. I even wrote about this under the video about minor motifs in Undertle (in which you also missed the Hotel and Can You Really Call This A Hotel).
you forgot about sans. from Deltarune Chapter 2 having the motif of sans. from Undertale, apart from that Great video!!
I'm not sure that counts as a leitmotif, I feel like it's more that they both use descending scales?
Which one
@@powerofthec5908 The last one, with the reference to the song Undertale. It's the same notes, but could just be a neat coincidence
It still uses the notes in the same places as they were originally, having all seven placed at the last measure with the first eighth note missing
It's different from saying that any four notes are Gaster's theme
There was Once Upon A Time (or Hopes And Dreams) motif in Before The Story as well
Am I the only one that hears a small sound sample from ''April 2012'' in Big Shot at 00:51?
A Cyber's World also has bits of Megalovania sprinkled about.
Dude, Your Best Nightmare IS intentional in The Dark Truth and Digital Roots
What about in Imminent Death/Vs. Susie?
Also toriels home theme and "you can always come back home" i think thats what its called
i could've swore snowgrave welcome to the city had some part of snowdin..
i think Big shot also have “battle against a true hero” leitmotif
Power of Neo and Battle Against a True Hero have the same main melody, but I just put Power of Neo as that's clearly what it's referencing.
Battle Against A True Hero and Power of NEO are the same leitmotif. They just use different instruments.
@@spamtonneo4630 Dude please just stop.
@@spamtonneo4630 Why? Because it's just too annoying and adds nothing of value to the video.
So please, with all due respect, go spam somewhere else, or even better, don't spam at all
@@spamtonneo4630 spamton fanboys/girls are worse than 2015-17 sans fanboys/girls holy shit. stop talking please.
Wow I never heard the undertale song in welcome to the city before this
I think that jevils theme is playing in big shot when power of neo is also playing...
Chill Jailbreak Alarm sounds more like Spider Dance to me
Napstablook's gotten good at those remixes!
The high pitched tone at the beginning of BIG SHOT is a You Idiot leitmotif
interesting that beside from the joke songs and welcome to the city (which i thought was a bit of a stretch), the song that has undertale references in it also happens to be the one that plays when you fight a boss whose connections with strange entities are talked about often
now we just need chapter 1 motifs in chapter 2.
you missed once upon a time motifs in one of the menu themes and also motifs at the end of the song "beginning"
And of course all of the "Your Best Nightmare" leitmotifs such as the bass at the very beginning of Big Shot.
Honk Song sounds like my neighborhood singing a Deltarune Song (Context I live one of the busiest road in my city)
0:27 this sounds more like Battle Against A True Hero with the Power Of Neo sample.
Power of neo... is just battle against a true hero with a different instrument?
I KNEW I regonice big shot from somewhere! I knew it from day!
also, before the story has a very direct leitmotif to asriels theme
Do we take Gaster's theme as an Undertale leitmotif? Because while it is notorious for being so simple you can hear it everywhere if you try, you won't convince me it's not in ANOTHER HIM, Darkness Falls and Flashback.
Wow you forgot Ghouliday and Holiday studio
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
OMG I just discovered a leitmotif of the song "Don´t forget" in the song "Snowdin Town" (from undertale obviously), I don't know how to place it but in a part of the middle of the song when it ends you hear the rhythm of "don ´t forget, i´m with you in the dark ", I swear it is true (and I had discovered it when I was playing the pacifist route lmao).
I think you definitely missed this but there are 2+ others with undertale leitmotifs. Beginning, and Before the story, which both contain the "once upon a time" leitmotif.
i feel like the city/undertale one might not be intentional - it's just a scale going down to the next bit of the song
Imagine if he put the entirety of sans in here since its in both soundtracks lol
I still feel like The Core is in someway a part of BIG SHOT. It's like it you used the same instrument for two different songs. It's a different tune, but the same feeling.
"Until Next Time" appears to use "Small Shock" as a leitmotif.
Question. Not super on-topic but this is the most recent Deltarune leitmotif video so figured I'd ask it here, and also mentioning it to you since you're good with this music stuff: Think there's any sort of hidden connection between Bluebird of Misfortune, and Flashback Excerpt from the Weird Route? Since it's called Flashback Excerpt, and in the game files Bluebird of Misfortune is called Berdly Flashback, I thought who knows, maybe they have a similar sound if you do some speed/tone messing with them, kinda like Undertale Main Theme and The Choice, though they aren't exactly the same, neither are Welcome to the City and Welcome to the City (Weird Route Version), so who knows.
In Big Shot Jevils theme is also present
i’m actually surprised i never got the welcome to the city one, i absolutely love motifs, especially the ones in undertale and deltarune.
Powers Combined is very clearly Stronger Monsters
You forgot about You Can Always Come Home, it has the home motif and the Once Upon A Time motif at the end of the song
gee i wonder if the person who uploaded this did the same for chapter 1 almost two years ago and included You Can Always Come Home there... a bit of digging wouldn't cause any trouble.
Someone needs to make a mix of undertale and welcome to the city omg lol
Ooooh yeeeees!
Pretty sure chill jailbreak alarm is using pathetic house and not ghost fight
In Honksong, the thing right before Metal Crusher sounds a damn lot like a speech byte.
also dont forget the sound in BIG SHOT that sounds like someone saying "gay" thats actually the saound asrials sword makes during the bossfight at the end of the pacifist route
Oi, time stamp?
@@nuepisode4781 1:00 in it actually almost sounds like its saying "now its gay"
Not UT related but I just noticed that there's one part in BIG SHOT that sounds like A CYBER'S WORLD?/ WELCOME TO THE CITY
Yes
2:32 actually that's a reference to pathetic house.