Qui-Gon wasn’t on the Council, but he was a Jedi Master. Yoda addresses him as Master Qui-Gon rather than just Qui-Gon or Jinn. It was also said by Obi-wan that his defiance of the Council was the only thing keeping him from being a member of it.
On a somewhat related note, the younglings addressed Anakin as "Master Skywalker". Probably in respect though as he was their superior but thought I'd mention that.
@@alduintheanti-dragonborntrue but I don’t think every Jedi on the Council is a Master well they are but you can still be a Jedi Master and not be on the Council otherwise wouldn’t Dooku be a Jedi knight as well? and the same for other Jedi Masters?
I think Jin would have been the perfect Jedi to do this and be like Legends and old republic Jedi. It would have been so great. Would love a light saber..... thanks for the tale
I don't know if Disney changed something in the history of Qui-Gon Jinn, but as far as I remember, he was a jedi master, and was actually offered a place in jedi council by Yoda himself, but rejected that offer (its pitured in one of comic books: Age of Republic - Qui-Gon Jinn, which is as far as I know a part of new canon). Also, he was 60 years old in TFM, but maybe that was changed recently. Hic character is very underrated tbh, and deserves more time on screen.
I’m not sure if Disney changed it or not, I said what it is I found, because I honestly thought he was a master. And yeah 60 sounds a lot more appropriate because he looked 60 rather than 48! But yes super super underrated Jedi!
@@PentePatrolStarWars Oh, i wouldn't agree that he looked like 60 years old guy. Age of 48 suits him better in that matter, but they explained that he looked rather young (as for 60 years old dude of course, I mean, compare him to 50-60 years old Obi-Wan on Tatooine) since he focused his research on living force. When he was younger he was also one of the best duelist in the order (as befits a padawan of Count Dooku) but the older and wiser he got, the more he focused on the force. In legends he was able to put up a good fight against the likes of Mace Windu in sparring sessions and end it with a draw, and even if that was before Windu's prime, that's still quite an accomplishment. It's even explained that Qui-Gon lost to Maul, because Maul was much younger, since he and Qui-Gon were on pair with duelling skills at the time. Maul described his duel on Naboo as the greatest challenge he faced since he fought his own master, Darth Sidious (In Darth Plagueis novel if i remember correctly). So, Qui-Gon wasn't someone to be messed with in addition to his wisdom, intelligence and knowledge about the force.
He was 60? I heard he was 48 which I think makes more sense he looks to be that age and Liam Nesson would have also been 48 when The Phantom Menace came out
Jin was offered a seat on the council at one point but refused it as it didnt align with what he thought a jedi should be and what he wanted to do at the time.
I believe that Qui Gon Jinn would be the perfect Jedi grandmaster. His knowledge of the force was greater than that of master Yoda in so many ways. I love your what is videos, and I find them very intriguing. Also, I hope I’m one of the people that gets a Lightsaber from you. If so, then I would like Kyle Katarn’s lightsaber from Jedi outcast. Saber forge has it
This is entertaining and well-written. In your account, Maul is no problem for "Grand Master" Qui Gon. Why in this timeline versus the regular? A title does not imbue skill. What did he do between 35 BBY and the regular timeline in 32 BBY? Was he saber training 8 hours each day with Dooku, Plo Koon, and Mace Windu? I may have missed this detail (I was listening as I took a bath) and am curious. You're right to note that Dooku has no reason to leave the Jedi Order. I also like how you remove the Jedi from political action under Qui Gon (I agree that he'd have championed that). The last is an important detail that helps your story march forward well. Freeing Shmi, setting her up, and nourishing their relationship would certainly ease Anakin's mind and keep him from venturing away from the Jedi. I think it would, in a sense, guarantee Anakin's loyalty. Thanks for your time.
loved this!! this would be so cool if they could have made this happen in the movies lol I think he would have been awesome as a master, and i think that the whole bringing the jeti back to what they were sopost to do idea was just Jenious
Man it is so good to see you are growing fast! Your 100% my favorite fan fiction story teller on TH-cam! I can’t say enough how nice it is to get complete videos! When most do half stories and then says they will do part 2 if the fans like it enough??? Well what if there isn’t enough 👍🏻 to finish? Well then we wasted 20 minutes of our lives listening to a story we will never find out the end! Thank you so much for not doing that and writing full stories! Your the true form fiction Master!
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Ya know the Jedi back then all really should've been following Qui-Gon's example just following the will of the force and not letting themselves get caught up in the corrupt politics of the republic. He was also the only one capable of training of Anakin.
R2-D2 would belong to the grand master in this instance because technically was claimed by Qui gon in the first Star Wars and would have remained his if he hadn’t died
What if Darth Plagueis survived to go on to achieve immortality and to have plans that can take centuries or millennia to play out, to try to fulfil the Sith grand plan
I double and triple checked, Qui Gon had master rank and was offered a seat on the council, he refused so this is more what if he DIDNT refuse his seat and became grandmaster. Also Maul likely could still pull himself out of the trash and form the shadow collective, it just would have taken longer.
What if Qui Gon Jinn was saved from darth maul by Ezra Bridger from within the world between worlds by way of a subtle force distraction. What do you think that the changes to the timeline would be.
The Jedi would continue in power and Sidious instead of being the one Sith to take power, would be just another one in the Bane lineage that would continue as Maul would likely survive despite being defeated and would be the Sith Master with his brother Savage Oppress as the apprentice
What if Qui Gon shifted his lightsaber form from Ataru to Soresu and incorporated techniques from Makashi, Djem So/Shien, and Niman? How would this change the events in Naboo during his duel with Maul?
What if master yaddel was given force visions of the conception and birth of the chosen one on tattooine. So she requested to be assigned to tattooine as a jedi watchman so that she could find the chosen one's mother before his birth meaning anakin skywalker is trained by master yaddel for the first nine years of his life then master Qui-gon Jinn, obi-wan kanobi, jar jar binks, the Queen of naboo and her followers find yaddel, anakin and his mother. What happens next you tell us. We await your genius what if ideas for your one of the best star wars what if writers out there. Kind regards from Daniel Harman.
This is a what if that would actually be feasible. It would make sense for the Jedi to disassociate from politics and not focus on mercy missions and peacekeeping in ways not associated with war. Only one mistake you made. In practically every place I’ve looked, it states that Qui-Gon is a Jedi Master. It even states that in Episode I. If you’re near 50 snd are still a Jedi (as a human that is) you shouldn’t really be even considered for appointment to the council.
@@PentePatrolStarWarsno worries. This what if is one of my all time favorites because of the high possibility of it actually happening if he was grandmaster.
I think under these circumstances, once Palpatine learned they were trying to separate themselves from government, he would try to push the world governments to turn on the Jedi since the people wouldn't. After all, in the past they agreed to work with the Republic. He would claim they are abandoning their duties. He would hope this would either convince the Republic to turn against the Jedi, or convince the Jedi to come back and serve them. That's my thought, anyway.
Ummmm . Actually , Qui-Gon WAS a Master Jedi . And on a Few occasions turned Down appointment TO the Council , over the Ideological Differences you discussed in this Video ; Disagreed vehemently with the Jedi Order being an Agency of the Republic , instead of Following the Will of the Force .
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Yeah, instead of order 66....Palpatine would eventually turn the Republic into the Empire, and then probably try to turn his forces to oulaw and take out the Jedi. And that when problems would come in, because the people saw them as those that just help others. That would create a rebellion quite quickly and the Jedi would probably all join because they're being hunted. So, suddenly the rebellion has thousands of Jedi on their side....that's an issue. Good what if.
You said Sidious took a new apprentice after Maul! What happened to him? You never said the Jedi caught him so the Sith still exist! Also, did Maul really die or did he survive like in canon? Was Maul found by Savage who trained Savage to be a Sith? Did Sidious's apprentice take one of his own and later hunt down Maul and Savage together and fight to see who was the strongest as the Rule of Two state they should? Or would Sidious's successor and apprentice let Maul and Savage be the face of the Sith whilst they, the true Sith, remain in the shadows and continue the Rule of Two?
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Qui-Gon wasn’t on the Council, but he was a Jedi Master. Yoda addresses him as Master Qui-Gon rather than just Qui-Gon or Jinn. It was also said by Obi-wan that his defiance of the Council was the only thing keeping him from being a member of it.
On a somewhat related note, the younglings addressed Anakin as "Master Skywalker". Probably in respect though as he was their superior but thought I'd mention that.
@@alduintheanti-dragonborntrue but I don’t think every Jedi on the Council is a Master well they are but you can still be a Jedi Master and not be on the Council otherwise wouldn’t Dooku be a Jedi knight as well? and the same for other Jedi Masters?
I think Jin would have been the perfect Jedi to do this and be like Legends and old republic Jedi. It would have been so great. Would love a light saber..... thanks for the tale
That’s what made this one so much fun to write! And I would love to give some away!
He wouldn't have gotten involved in the clone wars and would have found out who Sidious was quicker
I don't know if Disney changed something in the history of Qui-Gon Jinn, but as far as I remember, he was a jedi master, and was actually offered a place in jedi council by Yoda himself, but rejected that offer (its pitured in one of comic books: Age of Republic - Qui-Gon Jinn, which is as far as I know a part of new canon). Also, he was 60 years old in TFM, but maybe that was changed recently. Hic character is very underrated tbh, and deserves more time on screen.
I’m not sure if Disney changed it or not, I said what it is I found, because I honestly thought he was a master. And yeah 60 sounds a lot more appropriate because he looked 60 rather than 48! But yes super super underrated Jedi!
@@PentePatrolStarWars Oh, i wouldn't agree that he looked like 60 years old guy. Age of 48 suits him better in that matter, but they explained that he looked rather young (as for 60 years old dude of course, I mean, compare him to 50-60 years old Obi-Wan on Tatooine) since he focused his research on living force. When he was younger he was also one of the best duelist in the order (as befits a padawan of Count Dooku) but the older and wiser he got, the more he focused on the force. In legends he was able to put up a good fight against the likes of Mace Windu in sparring sessions and end it with a draw, and even if that was before Windu's prime, that's still quite an accomplishment. It's even explained that Qui-Gon lost to Maul, because Maul was much younger, since he and Qui-Gon were on pair with duelling skills at the time. Maul described his duel on Naboo as the greatest challenge he faced since he fought his own master, Darth Sidious (In Darth Plagueis novel if i remember correctly). So, Qui-Gon wasn't someone to be messed with in addition to his wisdom, intelligence and knowledge about the force.
Yeah but those Twin Suns got Kenobi lmao but i love the fact that Qui-Gon is that powerful. I really think he’s underrated
He was 60? I heard he was 48 which I think makes more sense he looks to be that age and Liam Nesson would have also been 48 when The Phantom Menace came out
Jin was offered a seat on the council at one point but refused it as it didnt align with what he thought a jedi should be and what he wanted to do at the time.
I believe that Qui Gon Jinn would be the perfect Jedi grandmaster. His knowledge of the force was greater than that of master Yoda in so many ways. I love your what is videos, and I find them very intriguing.
Also, I hope I’m one of the people that gets a Lightsaber from you. If so, then I would like Kyle Katarn’s lightsaber from Jedi outcast. Saber forge has it
Exactly! Thank you so much! I hope you win too!
Bro.. this is absolutely the most beautiful fan fiction that I’ve ever seen. Keep up the fantastic work!!
Thank you so much! Will Do!
What if Dooku was the grandmaster with Yoda stepping down and giving Dooku the responsibility to rule the order in his way?
That'd be cool!
This is entertaining and well-written.
In your account, Maul is no problem for "Grand Master" Qui Gon. Why in this timeline versus the regular? A title does not imbue skill. What did he do between 35 BBY and the regular timeline in 32 BBY? Was he saber training 8 hours each day with Dooku, Plo Koon, and Mace Windu? I may have missed this detail (I was listening as I took a bath) and am curious.
You're right to note that Dooku has no reason to leave the Jedi Order. I also like how you remove the Jedi from political action under Qui Gon (I agree that he'd have championed that). The last is an important detail that helps your story march forward well.
Freeing Shmi, setting her up, and nourishing their relationship would certainly ease Anakin's mind and keep him from venturing away from the Jedi. I think it would, in a sense, guarantee Anakin's loyalty.
Thanks for your time.
loved this!! this would be so cool if they could have made this happen in the movies lol I think he would have been awesome as a master, and i think that the whole bringing the jeti back to what they were sopost to do idea was just Jenious
Man it is so good to see you are growing fast! Your 100% my favorite fan fiction story teller on TH-cam! I can’t say enough how nice it is to get complete videos! When most do half stories and then says they will do part 2 if the fans like it enough??? Well what if there isn’t enough 👍🏻 to finish? Well then we wasted 20 minutes of our lives listening to a story we will never find out the end! Thank you so much for not doing that and writing full stories! Your the true form fiction Master!
Wow, this channel has grown enormously in a short time.
Oh My goodness this is such a good idea
Funny, you are the only channel that I hit the bell for…lol I have left msgs before saying this so you know I’m not just blowing smoke! But your absolute my favorite fan fictions writer! By far! You complete stories, they are well written! Well executed ! And very good! Truly the best! So glade I have got to see a big jump in your subs! They are well deserved! Keep up the great work and you will be one of the biggest channels for fan fics! I guarantee you will succeed! Cream always rises! Ty my friend for another great story.
Thank you so much!!
This is pretty amazing. I am amazed to know that you know a lot about Star Wars. You need to be applauded for what you did.
Should read the master and apprentice book, qui gon was offered a seat on the council roughly 10 years before phantom menace
Casually glazing over the fact that Anakin just kills Palpatine. 😂
What if the Jedi council changed the Jedi code to allow Anakin to join the Jedi and allow attachments for all Jedi?
Another great video. I haven’t heard a spin to the story like this, very well done!!
Jin was offered a place on the council and turned it down just as Dooku did
thanks for the video earned my sub!
Thank you so much!
@@PentePatrolStarWars also a good what if might be what if savage oppress helped the jedi instead of continuing to find his brother maul.
Ya know the Jedi back then all really should've been following Qui-Gon's example just following the will of the force and not letting themselves get caught up in the corrupt politics of the republic. He was also the only one capable of training of Anakin.
R2-D2 would belong to the grand master in this instance because technically was claimed by Qui gon in the first Star Wars and would have remained his if he hadn’t died
My man Qui-Gong getting some *respect!*
nice scenario i like it very much
another great video :D
Thank you so much!
Correction he was a Jedi master and he was in his sixties when he died
Quigon was a master.
what if qui gon jin was a sith lord but played the jedi
I love your stories, keep up the good work
Nice using patrik pietschmann's piano coner of the force theme. I love that song.
Great ear! He's such a brilliant pianist and it adds a unique dimension to the music in these videos!
@@PentePatrolStarWars He adds so much to his covers and its always amazing.
@@garrendannish9722 Lol I know I have like half of his covers downloaded, they're absolutely remarkable!
You deserve so many more subscribers
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!
AWESOME!
I believe Qui Gon Jinn was probably the best choice for The Jedi Grand Master, he would have seen through all the bullshit and straightened things up.
Oh yeah most definitely
Good job bro!!!
Thank you so much!
Qui-Gon was a master before he died, he just wasn’t on the council. Great video though
Absolutely loved this theory man! Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
What if Darth Plagueis survived to go on to achieve immortality and to have plans that can take centuries or millennia to play out, to try to fulfil the Sith grand plan
Yes the jedi from old republic are back better then ever 👍
Love the content man
Thank you!
How about if Count Dooku became Grand Master upon Yoda's death first, and Qui-Gon Jinn then becomes Grand Master?
That'd be fun!
Great tjeroy Great story
Can you do what if yaddle trained anakin
You got it!
I double and triple checked, Qui Gon had master rank and was offered a seat on the council, he refused so this is more what if he DIDNT refuse his seat and became grandmaster.
Also Maul likely could still pull himself out of the trash and form the shadow collective, it just would have taken longer.
Yeah I got that part wrong lol
What if Qui Gon Jinn was saved from darth maul by Ezra Bridger from within the world between worlds by way of a subtle force distraction. What do you think that the changes to the timeline would be.
Qui gon jinn is my favorite Jedi
Make what if Jango Fett never died and for some reason went to Mandalore with his son too defeat vissla take the darksaber and Rule Mandalore
That would be a lot of fun!
Mace windu's lightsaber, I will have !!!!
I would like to have Qui Gon's saber he was my favorite
:)
The Jedi would continue in power and Sidious instead of being the one Sith to take power, would be just another one in the Bane lineage that would continue as Maul would likely survive despite being defeated and would be the Sith Master with his brother Savage Oppress as the apprentice
These have been great. What about a Dark Jar Jar story?
Thank you so much… and yes I shall recite the deep lore…
Grand Master Qui-Gon it sounds nice
He was just seen as a rebel
Bro can you do a what if involving darth jar jar But make it as serious as possible? I think that would be pretty cool
Oh man, that would be so epic 😂👌
Darth Jar Jar is the real deal! Let’s do it!!
The deep lore!!
What if Qui Gon shifted his lightsaber form from Ataru to Soresu and incorporated techniques from Makashi, Djem So/Shien, and Niman? How would this change the events in Naboo during his duel with Maul?
The Jedi wouldn’t have been so ignorant to sith return under jinn kenobi and a badass good anakin
Yes exactly! Lol
Dooku was the best Form II duelist, and equal to second best with Mace, but Yoda was the undisputed best duelist of all Jedi.
actually, he was a master and was invited to the council,
Nice video
Thank you!
What if all members of Domino Squad survived the Rishi moon outpost attack?
Yes! That’d be pretty cool!
what if General rahm kota and his milita was at the trade federations invasion of nabbo to defend the world
That would be so dope!
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Hey dude, amazing vedio, BTW if I win I'd like a Luke lightsaber.
Thank you so much, if you win I’ll put a call into Tosche Station for some power converters too 👀
@@PentePatrolStarWars Cheers my dude!
But at this point mace windu was still the grandmaster and haven't pass it down to Yoda
What if master yaddel was given force visions of the conception and birth of the chosen one on tattooine. So she requested to be assigned to tattooine as a jedi watchman so that she could find the chosen one's mother before his birth meaning anakin skywalker is trained by master yaddel for the first nine years of his life then master Qui-gon Jinn, obi-wan kanobi, jar jar binks, the Queen of naboo and her followers find yaddel, anakin and his mother. What happens next you tell us. We await your genius what if ideas for your one of the best star wars what if writers out there. Kind regards from Daniel Harman.
What if the Jedi council told the senate that Dooku created the clones?
That would be interesting!
@@PentePatrolStarWars can u plz do a vid on this? Was waiting for a while 4 someone to do it.
@@lukeskillings6484 Yeah definitely.. I write down all the suggestions I get.. I want to do bring everyone's thoughts on Star Wars to life :)
This is a what if that would actually be feasible. It would make sense for the Jedi to disassociate from politics and not focus on mercy missions and peacekeeping in ways not associated with war. Only one mistake you made. In practically every place I’ve looked, it states that Qui-Gon is a Jedi Master. It even states that in Episode I. If you’re near 50 snd are still a Jedi (as a human that is) you shouldn’t really be even considered for appointment to the council.
Yeah I definitely got that part wrong lol
@@PentePatrolStarWarsno worries. This what if is one of my all time favorites because of the high possibility of it actually happening if he was grandmaster.
I think under these circumstances, once Palpatine learned they were trying to separate themselves from government, he would try to push the world governments to turn on the Jedi since the people wouldn't. After all, in the past they agreed to work with the Republic. He would claim they are abandoning their duties. He would hope this would either convince the Republic to turn against the Jedi, or convince the Jedi to come back and serve them. That's my thought, anyway.
Ummmm . Actually , Qui-Gon WAS a Master Jedi .
And on a Few occasions turned Down appointment TO the Council , over the Ideological Differences you discussed in this Video ;
Disagreed vehemently with the Jedi Order being an Agency of the Republic , instead of Following the Will of the Force .
Yeah I got that wrong from the information was using!
Wow! What a give away! You impress me more and more! I’m so glad that I found you early! It has been a true pleasure to see you get what you deserve! And that is notification of the great stories you give us! Man I would love to win the giveaway! I could never afford making my own saber like that! Yes there are sabers I love that exist already but to make something that is truly my own ! WOW what an opportunity! I have never wanted to win something this much…lol but even if I don’t win you are still my absolute favorite fan fictions writer! And I don’t even listen to others anymore because I know your going to give me a complete story, a thoughtful story, and realistic story! BRAVO! Once again my friend! I love Qui Gon! I’ve been subscribed to you for a little while now so I hope I’m still eligible to win🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🤞🤞🤞
What if pong Krell never turn to the dark side what if the son kill the father instead of the daughter
Woahhh okay Yes and Yes
I doubt he would still go to Naboo. Additionally, he was well respected among his peers as a powerful and noble Jedi
I still want to see if Aayla Secura trained Anakin
What if Yoda was the Chosen one
Yessssssss
What if the Jedi followed NOT the Jedi Code
Bur instead the GREY JEDI CODE?
I would like to have Qui-Gon Jen lightsaber Anakin skywalkers Mace windu's lightsaber
Yeah, instead of order 66....Palpatine would eventually turn the Republic into the Empire, and then probably try to turn his forces to oulaw and take out the Jedi. And that when problems would come in, because the people saw them as those that just help others. That would create a rebellion quite quickly and the Jedi would probably all join because they're being hunted. So, suddenly the rebellion has thousands of Jedi on their side....that's an issue. Good what if.
i wonder what would happen if anakin ever became grandmaster
Hmm that's a cool idea!
i just love star wars so it will be awesome to see what path would be amazing
@@skullst0rm Most definitely!
Qui Gon was actually was born earlier, he was 60
Yeah I got that one wrong!
@@PentePatrolStarWars it is alright
Thank you for your information Master Plo
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Said it before.......What if Lando was trained as a Jedi?
Well he was a Master Jedi. As much as I love Yoda he shouldn't have been Grand Master. This would have been better.
I completely agree!
I like the story
Thank you!
You said Sidious took a new apprentice after Maul! What happened to him? You never said the Jedi caught him so the Sith still exist!
Also, did Maul really die or did he survive like in canon?
Was Maul found by Savage who trained Savage to be a Sith? Did Sidious's apprentice take one of his own and later hunt down Maul and Savage together and fight to see who was the strongest as the Rule of Two state they should? Or would Sidious's successor and apprentice let Maul and Savage be the face of the Sith whilst they, the true Sith, remain in the shadows and continue the Rule of Two?
What if Qui Gon Jin was the grand wizard?
You shall not pass
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Sooooo your saying what if the jedi order was not a shish hole
Pretty much lol
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