What If Qui Gon Jinn Survived?

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  • Join us as we unravel what would happen if Qui Gon Jinn survived in The Phantom Menace. How would his presence shape the destiny of Anakin Skywalker? What impact would he have on the Jedi Order, the Clone Wars, and the rise of the Sith? Prepare to witness the ripple effects on key events and characters, including Obi-Wan Kenobi, Count Dooku, and more.
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ความคิดเห็น • 94

  • @megaman37456
    @megaman37456 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    One problem: If Qui-Gon lives, Dooku doesn't join the Sith. Qui-Gons death was the catalyst for that.

    • @vampricyoda
      @vampricyoda ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Not really. Palpatine already had his claws into him as seen in Tales of the Jedi. The deletion of Kamino all happened DURING Episode 1. Qui-Gon's survival means Dooku might have been easier to turn back to the light. But his fall started well before Qui-Gon's death/

    • @irruption4770
      @irruption4770 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@vampricyodatrue, however the final push was Qui-Gon’s death.

    • @jimmyboy131
      @jimmyboy131 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Qui-Gon's death was important to his turning against the Jedi but he was already on his way out the door, so to speak. If QG had lived he would have tried to bring him with him, though QG wouldn't have followed him into the Sith order.

    • @ChibaMitsurugi19792
      @ChibaMitsurugi19792 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jimmyboy131I agree. And maybe he could have prevented Dooku from leaving like when he stopped Dooku from that killing that chubba face senator Dagonet on whatever the planet was called. That was in the 3rd episode of Tales of the Jedi.

    • @WillyC300
      @WillyC300 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dooku was working with Sidious for quite some time before Qui Gons death, it definitely pushed him much deeper into the dark side though.

  • @benjaminobienu5297
    @benjaminobienu5297 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I got three words for this: What. A. Story. This is genuinely incredible, bro, a timeline of Qui-Gon living and becoming a father to Anakin never and Anakin being the Jedi he meant to be, and Obi-Wan being the brother Anakin needs and being the Jedi family what it meant to be. What I found this AU more enjoyable is having Maul redeemed. For there are youtube channels with Maul being brought to the light side, but they are not impactful on what you did with Maul for the journey, and his character arc made him grow as a better person. I would love to see a sequel to this where Maul becomes a grey force user, Anakin leads the Jedi away from politics, and Mother Talzin pulls a Reva move on Maul similar to what Reva tries to do with Vader from the Kenboi Series. Anyway, this is a great story, my friend; keep up the fantastic work, and may the force be with you!

    • @BanthaStew
      @BanthaStew  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks Benjamin, I really appreciate the kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed it so much. Honestly, with the response this video is getting, I might do a part two and if so, I like your idea a lot. May the force be with you too.

    • @TheKieran112233
      @TheKieran112233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BanthaStewplease do a part 2, I am hooked!

  • @astephens3600
    @astephens3600 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    My favorite things about Qui-Gon Jinn is that he understood the true meaning of attachments despite what the Jedi Code says and that he did not follow the ways of the Jedi Council but instead he followed the will of the force.

  • @andrewmah2962
    @andrewmah2962 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Obi-Wan - "Don't do anything rash!" *proceeds to jump out a window after the droid*

  • @jimmyboy131
    @jimmyboy131 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always wished Qui-Gon had survived. It was a bum deal from Lucas that he died, and I'm still convinced he should have defeated Maul.

  • @TheColombianSpartan
    @TheColombianSpartan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Max level Jedi rizz"
    lmao Anakin's got _nothing_ on Obi-wan's and Qui-gon's god-level jedi rizz

  • @itsalisworld5397
    @itsalisworld5397 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Idea: what if Anakin killed obi wan on mustafar. Love this fan fiction

    • @BanthaStew
      @BanthaStew  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you and cool idea

  • @uncardedreviews9721
    @uncardedreviews9721 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The biggest mistake the Jedi Order made was not making Mace Windu Anakin's mentor and trainer 😅

    • @krismikewill
      @krismikewill ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree.
      If he's "The Chosen One," why is a new knight training him?

    • @indream-
      @indream- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mace, Yoda, Plo Kun... Any of the old masters. Or better, let one old master formally be in charge. Butin reality all council members help with training when needed.

  • @Demonoicgamer666
    @Demonoicgamer666 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Anakin trained by qui gon would probably sense palpatine was a sith, in fact palpatine and plague’s feared qui gon training Anakin.

  • @benjaminparker671
    @benjaminparker671 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    SW Idea: What If Maul was a Jedi

  • @chasetauscher9544
    @chasetauscher9544 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    What if Mother Talzin was Sidious’s apprentice.

    • @BanthaStew
      @BanthaStew  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That would be cool

    • @ericfrontczak8016
      @ericfrontczak8016 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She's weak

    • @beentheredonethat5908
      @beentheredonethat5908 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@ericfrontczak8016What lmfao? Palpatine wanted her as his apprentice. With a mix of dark sister magic, her dark side connections, she woukd have been a powerful apprentice. He didn't pick her because she was so powerful and he didn't understand her magic , which was an issue for him, he feared it. He choose her child because of her ability, ive never heard such a ridiculous claim!

  • @ciceroblackthorne3607
    @ciceroblackthorne3607 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if Lord Kazeem joined Darth Bane?

  • @brothers_of_nod
    @brothers_of_nod ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting way to leave this off, with the witches still alive and able to plot out revenge.

  • @BanthaStew
    @BanthaStew  ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @Nicodapro
    @Nicodapro ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video bantha!

    • @BanthaStew
      @BanthaStew  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!

    • @Geeksavant80x
      @Geeksavant80x 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@BanthaStew like a bantha

  • @ShawnMichaels232
    @ShawnMichaels232 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is honestly really good. And that’s not me looking at it through the lens of “man, I wish”, but I find that it flows well and is really intricately thought out. You rewrote the events of the Star Wars universe, and left very few loopholes (if any). Great work, man.

    • @BanthaStew
      @BanthaStew  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Cody, I’m glad you enjoyed it.

  • @CPUReddragon24
    @CPUReddragon24 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if anakin was declined training by the Jedi order and following that obi wan left the order and took anakin to train him on mandalore

  • @jessm5752
    @jessm5752 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love this, an AU where Qui lives long enough to die of old age . I adore Qui gon and his boys and even like maul in this.

    • @BanthaStew
      @BanthaStew  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed

  • @samdustinchris
    @samdustinchris ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What if Yoda was a Hot Dog instead of a gremlin?

  • @danielharman572
    @danielharman572 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A cool story and very enjoyable. The changes I'd like is to see are anakin and padme getting together around 5 years after palpatine's death. Thus luke and leia skywalker are born. What the jedi Council do about it is anyone's guess. I'd like to see a period of deep reflection and contemplation on attachment amongst other things. Also going deeper into the jedi archives than is usual for standard operating procedure. Kind regards from Daniel Harman.

  • @edsova5089
    @edsova5089 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What if the jedi never discover Anakin due to never having their hyperdrive malfunction over Tattoine?

  • @eidoneverchoosen1171
    @eidoneverchoosen1171 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This feels like their be a part 2

    • @BanthaStew
      @BanthaStew  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🤷‍♂️ maybe, we’ll see

  • @Fenris77
    @Fenris77 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Liam Neeson and the fact that no one really gave a shite about "Trainspotting" over there. Qui Gon jinn when he was cut down by Maul everyone was like "NOOOOOOOOO!" "Sob sob"...

  • @harmannbhasin9170
    @harmannbhasin9170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great story! But if i'm poking holes, why did Qui-Gon not see Dooku one last time. Could he not try to redeem his master?

  • @eldronjaedike9374
    @eldronjaedike9374 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You mean, what if he were stabbed by a light saber, under Disney? He'd have shrugged it off - obviously. I'm reminded of General Woundwart from Watership Down - "Light saber's aren't dangerous!"

  • @shaneduquette6104
    @shaneduquette6104 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if the Jedi actually realize that the genetic model for the Republic Clone Army was standing with the Separatist movement on Geonosis...

  • @AspieOfTheWest
    @AspieOfTheWest 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yellow lightsaber blade is the colour of the Jedi Sentinel. Qui-Gon is a Jedi Consular and you don't change your Jedi class once it's established. His blade would stay green.

  • @zackfolkestad8746
    @zackfolkestad8746 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s great, but I would like Luke and Leia to have been born. Luke is stronger than Anakin. No if ands, or but’s. What if Qui-Gon taught Luke?

  • @sonderstudios6675
    @sonderstudios6675 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This starts off wrong immediately. It's because of the dark side the maul is able to keep fighting, knowingly slowing qui-gon down at the same time luring him into a small space where his form of lightsaber stance limits his attacks.
    Palpatine wouldn't be afraid of maul ratting because he never told maul anything.

  • @gregoryjohnson7144
    @gregoryjohnson7144 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a Great Video ❤❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰🥰👌👌👌👌🤯🤯🤯🤯👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏 Can't wait for Full Video 2nd Part.

  • @treblazer
    @treblazer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So disappointed in Maul for betraying Asajj and Savage

  • @lucasdunfee3431
    @lucasdunfee3431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kenobi would not need tries he helped destroy a Sith.

  • @lordofpain3476
    @lordofpain3476 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if Qui-Gon was the Jedi Grand Master ?

  • @Osama_2shiesty
    @Osama_2shiesty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If he survived sidous would obviously like something else up to have him killed cause Qui gon was a big threat to his Grand plan as well as Obi wan, he didn’t see Obi wan as much of a threat but if you think abt it he killed Maul, killed grievous, Crippled Anakin

  • @eidoneverchoosen1171
    @eidoneverchoosen1171 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love this alternative idea.

    • @BanthaStew
      @BanthaStew  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you, it was fun to make

  • @lordofpain3476
    @lordofpain3476 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh come on !!!!
    Obi-Wan was a total dog , he absolutely would have tried with a little hottie like Padme .
    There is no way that he wouldn't want to play " hide the gundark " with her .

  • @adamyusuf1805
    @adamyusuf1805 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This deserves so many more views how does it only have 300 what

    • @BanthaStew
      @BanthaStew  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just came out today 🤷‍♂️ we’ll see how it does throughout the week. Glad you enjoyed it

    • @krismikewill
      @krismikewill ปีที่แล้ว +2

      16k as of 23 July 2023.

  • @enoch927able
    @enoch927able ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This would have been a great movie if Lucas never introduced Luke and Lia

  • @Caleb17-ym6pq
    @Caleb17-ym6pq 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What if Cal Kestis was trained by Qui Gon Jinn?

  • @Xx_meamer_xX
    @Xx_meamer_xX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the thing is by the time the 5s stroy happens not only did he already take out his inhibotor chip but the night sister were also whiped out

  • @BlackEyeGames
    @BlackEyeGames ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if the droid army dint attack and start the war?

  • @BernieTheDevastator
    @BernieTheDevastator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a what if vid talking about if anakin lead the siege of mandalore like mail wanted and he got to talk to him

  • @MatthewJamesKalasky
    @MatthewJamesKalasky ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course being played by Liam Neason helps.

  • @foxyfoxy2034
    @foxyfoxy2034 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The youngling saver 9000 lol

  • @LearnwithMahmoud
    @LearnwithMahmoud 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What if anakin killed suidion in attack of the clone

  • @choaan1246
    @choaan1246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im starting to think this man is not real, his humor is too dad jokey 🤔

  • @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
    @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your writings are fire keep going man much respect 🔥

  • @LCTesla
    @LCTesla ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Obi-wan was a better teacher. Qui-gon did not have time for two. It would have been a darker timeline in which Qui-gon had more trouble constraining Anakin than Obi-wan. He was an old man at the point where Anakin turned passably adult.

    • @Matt-yg8ub
      @Matt-yg8ub 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Obi Wan was already grown…..nothing remained but to take the trials. A six month overlap would not have been difficult for Qui to juggle. Qui Gon was very much a better choice to train Anakin. His mannerisms and experience made him far more of a father figure and less of a cocky big-brother and that’s precisely what Anakin needed….someone to confide his struggled to rather than a brother to complete against.
      If Anakin had confided to Qui-gon that the force was giving him visions of his mother dying ……he would have packed up and flown to Tatooine that afternoon….not told him that dreams pass in time. If Anakin told Qui-gon he was afraid to loose someone…..he would have asked him who and why……not pulled a little green goblin version of Elsa and told him to “let it go”.
      Anakin’s young adult angst was never dealt with because every time he tried to seek help…the stodgy bastards brushed him off with empty platitudes and Jedi wisdom instead of acting like friends and helping him.

  • @solas444
    @solas444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if Qui Gon trained Luke

  • @jonwalker8945
    @jonwalker8945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question to anybody out there…
    Why didn’t Luke’s NJO ever use Myrkyr as a sort of “dark-Jedi prison?”
    Vornskers hunt Jedi, the ysalimiri disrupt the force…seems like the perfect prison planet for “dark-siders”
    Edit: sorry, just getting back into legends, only ever read Thrawn tridge and NJO so far

  • @archiekirby2723
    @archiekirby2723 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if obi died instead of qui gon

  • @animecrypt4737
    @animecrypt4737 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    bro your intros are great, not to mention your editing in general, for a relatively new channel its nice to see, great story keep up the great work

    • @BanthaStew
      @BanthaStew  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate that, thanks!

  • @dull-life2675
    @dull-life2675 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro this is genuinely a great story I would rather have this as a movie or tub series then anything Disney has made

    • @BanthaStew
      @BanthaStew  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it

  • @dannyrooker7012
    @dannyrooker7012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video man

  • @StarFactor7777
    @StarFactor7777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved this video, folks! Well done. I think that it might be your best one yet!

  • @coltonsmith4886
    @coltonsmith4886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if revan trained anakin like if revan was frozen in time and woke around phantom menace

  • @nickcastrellon909
    @nickcastrellon909 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We all know that the Saga films revolve around the Skywalkers, but TPM is Qui-Gon's film, in my opinion. He only appeared in 1 film and the story had to revolve around how he was responsible for the beginning of fulfilling the prophecy. If Qui-Gon had survived I feel that Anakin would have fulfilled the prophecy WITHOUT turning to the dark side. As far as "balance" in the Force goes, with Qui-Gon's guidance and emphasis on following the Living Force, he and Anakin could have reformed the Jedi Order to be more like the Imperial Knights of the Legacy era.

  • @indream-
    @indream- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ehm, go to save Shmi. Couple years later Padme attacked... Did I miss something from the movies? Because torturing for 2+ years is too much even for tuskans.

  • @edsova5089
    @edsova5089 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What if Grievous escaped Utapau for Mustafar and then Anakin tried to kill Grievous and the other separatists and then Grievous and Obi-wan team up to fight Anakin on Mustafar?

  • @Jhonatan-r2z
    @Jhonatan-r2z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nooo wonder youre canadian
    Accoridng George lucas it was vapad that helped beat sidious
    And sidious wasnt holding back
    Yeah you did well up until there. But then again youre canadian so i should have expected that disappointment

  • @cecilarthurton3795
    @cecilarthurton3795 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what if ankin was born female

    • @PugnaciousProductions
      @PugnaciousProductions ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Luke and Leia wouldn't be born, but really nothing.

    • @cecilarthurton3795
      @cecilarthurton3795 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PugnaciousProductions if anikin was female Luke and Lisa will still be born when Anika gets pregnant by the force

  • @grandmasterbob1040
    @grandmasterbob1040 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video

  • @alexthedemon2203
    @alexthedemon2203 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish Ahsoka had been included

  • @jacob4evr_
    @jacob4evr_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oooo what if qui gon survived should be goooood *maul kills ventress* ehh this is crap 😂

  • @CT9905.
    @CT9905. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He didn’t Survive, Darth Maul took care of That!!!