Flatbed securing a 42K Steel Coil

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  • @johnmichael8133
    @johnmichael8133 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good job Dale, that dude is not going anywhere! maverick is processing my application !

  • @PhoenixCustomsWoodworking
    @PhoenixCustomsWoodworking 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    shotgun coils are so much easier and safer in my opinion. i wouldve used 2 sets of x chains, 2 horseshoe chains, 1 trip chain, then 3 or 4 straps over the top. yes it's a bit more work, but i don't mess around with coils. i usually secure them for 100%of the weight. but to each their own, every driver does it different.
    i will take the bungee idea from your video and use it. I've always struggled with my edge protection faking off

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I recently started using my ratchet binders with this and I have figured out a way to avoid using bungees. It seems to save me some times and helps me set up the chains nicely.

    • @TheRoadhammer379
      @TheRoadhammer379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shotgun is very hard on the trailer as the weight is inside the trailer mainbeams. But most of the time, it's customers preference. I always try to load suicide but it's my trailer, and I tet to not beat it up.

    • @HansraRulez
      @HansraRulez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought it is rule that you have to secure a load minimum of 100% of the weight.

  • @shoey64
    @shoey64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job Dale. This is the first time I ever saw u drive your truck. I often Wondered if someone else drove your truck. Keep it up.

  • @awillis222
    @awillis222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I see one major problem with your securement. By regs, when you placed 2 separate chains thru the same stake pocket, the inspectors will count that as 1 point of contact. Multiple chains can not use the same attachment point, and be counted as separate securement devices. So basically, an inspector will count all four chains/binder devices as 2, and will only credit the WLL for devices. If that is 5/16” chain, used as an indirect tie down, you’ll only get credit for 10,800# of WLL. The blocking chain gets you another 5,400#, and another 10,800# for the straps. Granted, you only have to cover 1/2 of the gross weight of the load, or 21,290#, it’s always good to have your total WLL to the gross weight of a coil. The way you attached the chains, by regs, you lost 10,800# of WLL.

    • @therookie5263
      @therookie5263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly….

    • @josereyes9726
      @josereyes9726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When u hook up to only one side if staje pocket u onky get 1/2 WLL on that pocket...stake pockets rated about 5500# two seoarate welds...so if u hook up to one side u only get 1/2...the less wLL device is what they go for as WLL securement

    • @awillis222
      @awillis222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josereyes9726 that would be a “direct tie down”, where one anchor point is on the trailer, and the other is on the load (like tying down a bobcat, loader, or lift). What he’s demonstrating is an “indirect tie down”, meaning both ends of the securement device is attached to the trailer. Now, you’re correct that the stake pockets are only rated for 5400 pounds, as are most of the deck mounted chain connectors. But, the round pieces, or spools, between the stake pockets are fully welded, and have a higher WLL. From a securement standpoint, you should never use the stake pockets, or the run rail itself, as an anchor point. While it’s not technically against the regulations, that rail is meant to protect the straps and chains from being damaged. Straps should never, I REPEAT NEVER, be used outside the rub rail, unless the width of the load forces them to the outside.

    • @zelenizub2036
      @zelenizub2036 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      chain should never go through stake pocket, chain eats those like cheese.

    • @jamesbrackett575
      @jamesbrackett575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don’t go thru pockets

  • @tegracer91
    @tegracer91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice technic. Thanks for the tutorial

  • @g41thomas
    @g41thomas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NO amount of money in the world can justify the amount of work you doing as a TRUCK DRIVER.
    where is the fucking DOT to see how tired and exhausted the truck driver can get doing this sort of the thing on top of the hundreds of miles driving daily.
    good job and god bless you and I hope they really pay you for all that work.

  • @bjbeardse
    @bjbeardse 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Other than the strap hooking, this is a great method! WRAP THAT HOOK!

  • @faromarzgulom9155
    @faromarzgulom9155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you ❤

  • @stevenherrera1679
    @stevenherrera1679 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the one I really wanted to see very interesting great video thanks Dale......Really can not make a mistake with that huge heavy coil.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your welcome and you're right.

    • @stevenherrera1679
      @stevenherrera1679 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dale Clay Roger that. Hope your able to get home this weekend......since this was last weekend you were headed home.....Great job Sir....

    • @stevenherrera1679
      @stevenherrera1679 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Dale Clay Hey your over 4,000 Subscribers Congrats..... I been watchen you since day one if a long time flat bedder would see you securen your load I am sure they would think you have been at this longer than you have also your back up skills are very good you have come a long ways in a short time and your work ethic is top notch congrats Dale.......

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, every day I gain a little more experience.

  • @whatheworld
    @whatheworld 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quiet mill !!... nice clip Dale !!

  • @paulwicklund1052
    @paulwicklund1052 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet the people that wrap those coils are great at wrapping Christmas presents. LOL.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @25mfd
      @25mfd 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Paul Wicklund But how many Christmas gifts weigh 42k...LOL...

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      25mfd My kids presents. I wrap boulders in the yard and say....Merry Christmas. Save tons of money every year that way.

    • @25mfd
      @25mfd 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dale Clay lol...Yeah I know right...lol

  • @zaratustra4218
    @zaratustra4218 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, hard work, man. Congratulations from Brazil.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Zara Tustra Thank you,

  • @richardmiseljr2413
    @richardmiseljr2413 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to haul 45K to 54K coils of the dock in Cleveland Ohio couple times a week.

  • @dieseltrainfreek
    @dieseltrainfreek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We in Europe :) recomend the cradle hight to be aprox 1/3 of the coil radius and angle to be around 37deg. Any way nice job :) be safe .

  • @jessicanoory2856
    @jessicanoory2856 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job overseucring that steel. Most people don't bother to play it safe like you do.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Jessica Noory Some say I didn't secure it enough.

  • @israelgarcia2870
    @israelgarcia2870 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Excellent work my friend but I'm tired from just watching you!!! lol Be safe out there!!!

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol

    • @daniellarson9303
      @daniellarson9303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you think that was alot of work you're lazy

  • @michaelbruce6190
    @michaelbruce6190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Securing these coils on a flatbed is so friggen dangerous! They should just lay them flat on a pallet with the coil on top of a coil pad, that way they are much easier to strap down and they are much much more secure for transport as compared to being upright...42,000 pounds is gonna let go if a binder or a chain fails or if the driver isn't experienced.

  • @robertallred2368
    @robertallred2368 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job.

  • @phillipstahl3957
    @phillipstahl3957 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I watched the whole dang video. All 24 minutes of one coil getting secured by one guy, and I enjoyed every second of it. Great video!

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Phillip Stahl Thanks

    • @carolinarider5237
      @carolinarider5237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah me too. Even I'm watching 4 years in the future. Iv been looking for a video like this to watch to where someone does it from start to finish. 👍

    • @therookie5263
      @therookie5263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaleLClay those chains…were they 5/16” they looked like they were….how many chains did you actually end up using? Putting 2 chains through one pocket? Cuts the WLL of the pocket in half

  • @matthewglovier6900
    @matthewglovier6900 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very informative. Wish you would have shown the tarp job as well, but all in all a great video. 2 thumbs up to all your videos and the job that you do editing them.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will try to include the start to finish process on the rest of my videos

  • @paul-andreguenette6310
    @paul-andreguenette6310 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job clay,you work very well and it is the way to do it, good video and good week end .

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have a great weekend as well Paul-Andre.

  • @RelaxingHomestead
    @RelaxingHomestead 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Again your videos are great. Being your flatbed and all your loads seem to requrie some type of securing. Maybe consider creating a playlist of all the various securing types. First it would give people a knowledge base to reference when they go to Maverick to train. Plus you could add an icard to your video each time you make a video that might automatically get more videos if they want to see anything about flatbed. Being flatbed seems to pay a bit better than dry van. Hope you made it homoe safe to your family over the weekend.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      All great ideas. Be safe out there.

  • @terrysennhenn896
    @terrysennhenn896 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dam that was interesting, thanks.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome

  • @ianwaits7779
    @ianwaits7779 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a former Maverick driver(2010-2015) I would highly recommend driving for them. They will teach you the right way to secure a load.

  • @julz4u2
    @julz4u2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can tell that you are used to working by yourself...been there!

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Superior Signs 👍

  • @hoopty1106
    @hoopty1106 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    everything looked good except hooking the pocket like that,

    • @OffroadCpl
      @OffroadCpl 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you look closely his stake pockets are welded inside which i thought as well . but its ok if welded on inside

    • @CAoffRoading
      @CAoffRoading 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      mays9185 not gonna lie. it is still a bad idea. I messed up the stake pocket that was welded inside and out. I felt really dumb for the fact but grateful I do consistently check my load. fixed my securement and carried on having learned from a thankfully painless rookie mistake.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats how Maverick prefers it. One of three ways anyway.

    • @CAoffRoading
      @CAoffRoading 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dale Clay oh yeah for sure, if that is how your company prefers you to do things definitely follow those policy. Gotta cover your own butt. It is their trailers so they are free to decide how those property is treated. Sorry was only speaking to my own experience not to say that you are wrong.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Richard Adrian No problem, just clarifying. I know sometimes things can be misunderstood so I wanted to make sure I clarified. Be safe out there.

  • @AndysmGray
    @AndysmGray 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one Dale. Not long subscribed and enjoying the channel. I know it's not always possible, but these kind of load securement videos are really interesting to watch.
    Stay safe,
    Andy.....................Scotland.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude....SCOTLAND!!! I really need to visit your country.

    • @AndysmGray
      @AndysmGray 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dale Clay Oh I'm sure you'd love our hills and glens, but not in that truck of yours....lol

  • @matthewkrad8221
    @matthewkrad8221 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will definitely refer you thank you Dale

  • @douglasjamiemueller3311
    @douglasjamiemueller3311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have to say job well done !!!! But it’s funny I see guys trying to say u don’t have enough sercurment but I see more that enough . If each chain is rated at 5400lbs x4 chains that’s 21600 lbs of securing now also 2 straps at 5400 lbs so that is 10800 lbs so add that all up that gives u 32400 lbs of tie down. When per dot regulations you are only required to secure for 1/2 of the weight you are hauling at wich he would only need 21000 lbs of tie down

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You, unlike many "Super Truckers" that don't understand the rules, have clarified this so easily that minds will explode.

  • @DaveHarris75
    @DaveHarris75 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For me, the 20+ minutes I spent watching this educational video was worth every second! Thanks for taking the time to record and share your work, Dale. Stay Safe and I hope you have a great weekend!

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, it should be good I think.

  • @MrCountrycuz
    @MrCountrycuz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would be interested in Maverick but they said my criteria of felony was not hireable. Oh well
    I have a flat bed company I can work for is I choose to do so and your videos are very helpful in my final decision making.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Josef Venport Good luck.

  • @MrCountrycuz
    @MrCountrycuz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Morning Dale
    My flatbed friend made the mistake of loading 7 coils eye to the sky and the others were to the side. This took him 6 and half hours to strap and tarp. He is 68 years old and it wore him slap out.

  • @ricky6258
    @ricky6258 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m surprised there’s not a line of trucks honking at you to hurry up get out the way

  • @hypocriticalnihilist645
    @hypocriticalnihilist645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So sick of seeing people tie off to the rub rail.

  • @kyleshouse2945
    @kyleshouse2945 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    have you ever thought about doing a video on how you eat on the road

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +kyle shouse Honestly no I haven't.

  • @krispykr33m2
    @krispykr33m2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow that brought back some memories :) the biggest coil I had to secure was 48,000 lbs I had everything on my truck holding that bad boy down and it was suicide

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +krispykr33m2 I don't like suicide.

    • @zelenizub2036
      @zelenizub2036 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Big coils i prefer suicide, sliced coils shotgun. But if they go 65k to 72k than shotgun, since they so long.

  • @fish4fun354
    @fish4fun354 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When ever these coils go into my work their always turned 90 degrees from how you have yours....

  • @burlcarey
    @burlcarey 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes sir Mr.Dale,I always called them Homicide Loads,cause if it were to come off it would be to either side of the trailer,thus having a good chance at killing somebody. So, yes sir it's always a good idea to do 100% securement per weight verses securement attached to it. chains as well as straps and pulled from each side equally. 8 chains total 2crossed,&4 in a horse or (C) being both closest to the coil alternating those binders attached. Good and wrapped around access of chains and bungeed fastened taught. Kinda being scared noticing your trailer flex and twist like a rubber band when you see it in your mirrors of those heavier ones as you go around corners of a tight right turn.
    Keep up the being safe and keep up your channel,your doing good and I appreciate seeing more of you doing this. If your needing any help with anything call me...Am available 24/7 as its just what I do. Take care & be safe conscious an C-ya on the next one ;) .

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maverick requires we secure for 100% of the weight and length 100% of the time.

    • @burlcarey
      @burlcarey 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      That 100%of securement verses weight of the load or is it 51%,being that of a 100% securing it at that...since gravity being weight on the trailer @49% total weight of the load loaded accounts for d.o.t. requirements of its own weight is a somewhat a securing it's own self to the platform? I promise you I do over securement being 100% per weight carried in total being secured to the deck per securement whether it's chains or straps or any combination of those two being that of it certainly will stay fixed even if it's suspended upside down or layed on its own side...hopefully Good Lord will prevent that from ever happening ever once not needed at all. Lol. Just asking which does it that you do?

  • @EAA95
    @EAA95 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    [1:08 am] watches man secure load for 24min. (yes, I watched the whole thing lol)

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +EAA95 That takes courage

  • @therookie5263
    @therookie5263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never use the same pocket or spacer for multiple load securement devices….that is a major no no

  • @justinliner4614
    @justinliner4614 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you only pick up from mills, Or processors too?
    Be cool if you delivered to Chattanooga,

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +justin liner sometimes processors

  • @stevenikitas8170
    @stevenikitas8170 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to state unequivocally, from someone who has never hauled a coil of anything, that this operation would be vastly safer if the coil were laid flat, with the eye facing up.

  • @davidarias343
    @davidarias343 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks fir sharing

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +david arias No problem

  • @notyou4402
    @notyou4402 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hope your company dont watch this video you would be fired.... people do not take notes from this guy... not enoh securement iproper securement improper rigging hookng etc ass well. this guy gonna get someone killed and i dont thin maveric teaches this way to secure coils

  • @bigal9052
    @bigal9052 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any good DOT Cop would be able to shut him down .If you don't know how to load coils don't make a video and put on youtube others may think you know and do same

  • @kenho3jok3r
    @kenho3jok3r 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good job borther thats alot of securing to do xD

  • @seancahalinchristianbrothe1400
    @seancahalinchristianbrothe1400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would only suggest a couple of things.
    One is to never hook the the end hook of a chain to a stake pocket always hook the chain to itself. It's more secure and damages the trailer less.
    Never hook a strap end to the dot rub rail. DOT can sight you for this always run the strap hooks under the trailer deck to a saddle but never hook a strap to the rub rail. I may be wrong on this and you may be OK with running the strap inside the rail and hooking the inside. I used to run western elite trailers that had strap saddles.
    You can runt the chain, set the binder and wrap the chain tail around the binder and then run a bungee around the whole thing saves time and also secures the binder better.
    I have never ran Coils but I have used allot of chains for securment and that coil definitely looks secure and ain't going nowhere except to your delivery point. Good job and thanks for the video.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are Maverick procedures, They develope them in compliance with DoT requirements (at the time of filming). Next thing.... I no longer Drive for Maverick or any other company. Good luck in your ventures.

  • @daniellarson9303
    @daniellarson9303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In NY you have to double the weight of the object with the amount of chains you use. 20k object, use 40k of chain

    • @matthewt76
      @matthewt76 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel Larson pretty sure DOT rules are secure to half the load so 40 thousand pd coil has to be secured to 20 thousand pounds not the other way around

    • @rontrull9308
      @rontrull9308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In NY if you're a resident you have to have an endorsement to haul coils in the state... It's still only half the weight of the load to be secured down so 50K needs 25K to be legal.

  • @ricos2027
    @ricos2027 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you figure out were to put the coil? so as to not be overweight.....how many coils can you haul?

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ro Sa load from the center out. Up to 50k.

  • @ME-kr7sm
    @ME-kr7sm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful securement Mr Clay other than the short strapping, DoT doesn't like seeing that. Your chaining is Bar None-Subbed!

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even though I fold the straps, I passed through both holes the required amount.

  • @tacomaken15
    @tacomaken15 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only wasted movements I seen from Mr proficiency was you made a wasted trip back for your bungee cords initially. I would have given you a A+ but you only get a A. Hey Jenny, tell the securment teachers there at school you may have found a new teacher. So so glad I don't have to do this any longer..lol

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol and thanks

    • @paulaustin9714
      @paulaustin9714 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only flatbed work I did was with pods . That was fun. Three straps per pod . Easy work great pay .

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice

  • @akabigo135
    @akabigo135 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Head mounted Go Pro! Great!

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, I finally put a mount on my hard hat.

  • @richardhutto8636
    @richardhutto8636 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dale
    I spoke with John in recruiting. if i decided to go with Maverick I will definitely give him your name.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I appreciate that. Good luck on your decision.

  • @sgtrock2821
    @sgtrock2821 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Driving a volkswagon for peanuts. Maverick is shysters.

  • @erikcaldwell2913
    @erikcaldwell2913 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi, how long are you out, and how do you deal with being away from home for so long. Do you adjust after a while or does it bother you ever time you leave out?

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Erik Caldwell I am out for 5 days and home for the weekend. You get used to it after a long while.

    • @erikcaldwell2913
      @erikcaldwell2913 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dale Clay
      I bet it would take a while to get used to, but at least your home for the weekend. Ive been thinking about getting into it but just unsure about the change of lifestyle. thanks for replying back

  • @Pretzel114
    @Pretzel114 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello sir, nice video, very detailed. I use to haul crushed cars and covered wagons and I always was using the lever binders. Just wanted to let you know I think you did a good job. Not that I am anyone LOL!! just a driver like yourself. Safe travels.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +NICK-O Thanks, I appreciate that.

  • @mustafamusse648
    @mustafamusse648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are professional dude I salute you

  • @davidmarkersnr.1888
    @davidmarkersnr.1888 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dale, that was great, and safe, but a word from an old pro on the other side of the Atlantic. I used to load coils and lots of other stuff back in the 60s and I just had 2 chains and stretchers on a cradle. Never lost one, I suppose you have to go with the modern regs though. One other thing, over here we called them stretchers, binders and sylvesters, amongst other things depending where you came from in the country. Good to see that things don't change in principle though.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Marker Snr. Thanks.

    • @BC4150
      @BC4150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what the hell is a sylvesrer?

    • @davidmarkersnr.1888
      @davidmarkersnr.1888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BC4150 A sylvester is an over centre tightener for chains. Often used with a length of scaffold tube for extra leverage it makes the chain bar tight and nothing gets away from it if done properly. As I said above, even in a small country like Britain there are many regional variations, in additon to the ones I mentioned above I have just remembered another - dwangs. Whatever you call them though you'd better remember to make sure you can complete the tightening. If you can't and relax carelessly, you might have to kiss goodbye to your face, and a fair chunk of brain matter too. But if you get to that stage, you don't really need a brain anymore. ;-)

    • @BC4150
      @BC4150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidmarkersnr.1888 Interesting, hey thanks for reply. I've done flatbed here in Canada a number of years ago so of course i had one but never heard them called anything but a tightner. One thing i still possess is a nice bar that curves toward the end and narrows as to fit into the hole of the strap tightener, i wonder what that is called out your way (or even here). Thanks again and hope you've got over the queen's death

  • @timothycaplinger9794
    @timothycaplinger9794 ปีที่แล้ว

    When loading steel coils on an aluminum trailer, always chain off two spools in the side rail and always have a bump stop choke on the front of the coil.
    If you want a lesson I’d be happy to come show ya, the life I save could be your own.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  ปีที่แล้ว

      Feel free to make a how to video. I know many would benefit from your wisdom. I know longer work from this company, but if you want to drive on over to my place and show me with your truck, coil, and equipment...... that would be great. As seen from the beginning of the video showing the coil tarped, several things were not covered in this video you may have missed. Just me making content for those that followed me on the road at the time.

  • @tp_venangocounty1401
    @tp_venangocounty1401 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fuck them snap binders ratchet binders are alot safer

  • @Elidoransgar
    @Elidoransgar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You start out playing Euro Truck II, and you really like it. After a while, you start getting interested in all the technical details of trucks and trucking. You start hanging out on trucking forums, reading and learning. And then, some night after a couple of years of Euro Truck & American Truck, you find yourself coming home from the office and watching a 24-minute video showing how to secure a steel coil to a flatbed. And at no point during this video do you ever get bored. In fact, you find yourself asking questions, like: "What was he doing there with the bungee and then that strap of cloth? What are those wood slats that he assembled into a cross?"
    And then you thank your lucky stars that you're too old to take up trucking, because damn, that's a lot of work. But the challenge of it really fascinates me at times.
    Also: what the hell are those coils? Why do they weigh so much? If each of them is 42K, what is that, 30 million pounds of steel in that warehouse? Crazy. I can't imagine how thick that foundation must be.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very well put, my compliments Sir

    • @eddiecongdon8017
      @eddiecongdon8017 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not all trucking is securing loads. Get a tanker job all you do is set a hose and open valves. Or freight drop and hook trailers if you don't want the responsibility

  • @stanfinney1550
    @stanfinney1550 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The more I watch your videos the more I learn. I'm ready for orientation.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can probably go solo tomorrow ;)

  • @TruckDriverLifestyle
    @TruckDriverLifestyle 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope that you stopped using stake pockets.

  • @redsix49
    @redsix49 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was proud to be a steel hauler with Steel and Pipe .... How many of you have trained drivers with no sense... ??That amazed me how dumb some people were. I always thought hauling steel was a privilege and was a blast. I loved doing what others in my field could not do. Coils and cold roll... hold on to your ass .... Gr8 video... Loved hauling American Steel Lead Sleds are for idiots...! Can't wait to talk on my old Northstar 3000... Kc to NYC ...or Homestead, Fla. Dam it was a fun journey

  • @carlosaguirre1313
    @carlosaguirre1313 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dale
    Excellent Job
    Drive safely , good delivery trip
    Carlos Aguirre
    Quito Ecuador
    South America
    20 June 2020
    20:00 hours

  • @TaylorHaubrich
    @TaylorHaubrich ปีที่แล้ว

    How do we find the working load limits on the aluminum rub rails and stake pockets?

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      good question. I receieved mine from my company, who purchased the trailers. I would guess there would be data burried online somewhere, perhaps trailer manufacture web sites.

  • @corvairkid17
    @corvairkid17 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the aftermath of one of those coils jumping the median on I-70 as a kid. There were probably 50 cars and 10 semis involved. There were cars burnt and piled up for half a mile. Worst accident I have ever seen.
    Not sure if the coil *caused* the accident, but a coil jumped the median. There were about 5 flipped tractors, so it was hard to guess what started it all.
    But either way, a fucking steel coil jumped the median in heavy traffic 😨

  • @sirdirtydog705
    @sirdirtydog705 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, a chain is capably/rated at securing/holding a certain amount/weight?

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Sir Dirtydog Yes

  • @canadiansteelhauler9597
    @canadiansteelhauler9597 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only problem I have with your securing methods is dropping down the centre of the pocket and going around a post. The pocket is designed to have it wrapped around the outside. That little peice of aluminum doesn't have any sort of weight rating unless it's combined with the other side. So my suggestion is if you are going to use a pocket go around the outside of it. You can also take your chain and drop it down one side of the pocket, underneath the other and hook it on the other side. A pocket and a post both have the same work load limit. Also to the gentleman that commented on hooking your chains to the rub rail. That is the biggest mistake. Most rub rails don't have a work load limit and I don't know about you but if you have any part of a load securement device on the outside of the "rub" rail your asking for trouble. If you were to get side swiped by another truck or a car or heaven forbid you were to rub up against something that device will break.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Canadian Steelhauler All the secuments I use are taught to us by the company. That's why I use them. They also say not to secure to the rub rail as you mentioned. Or to the outside of it.

  • @MichaelSmith-qw3is
    @MichaelSmith-qw3is 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flat bed driver secures its own load????

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Michael Smith You want to trust your loads to someone else?

  • @shawnjarman9860
    @shawnjarman9860 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    there are two things I didn’t care for on your securement, 1st the amount of times you walked around the trailer, unless you did that out of exercise, you could cut that down a bit, and 2nd, the hooks on you straps should be hooked to the top of rub rails, if they break the hook can fall and hit a another vehicle, just my opinion

  • @TheRoadhammer379
    @TheRoadhammer379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dale, how do handle being treated like a child that needs constant supervision as opposed to be treated like a grown man? Maverick is a nanny company, hear you guys were getting driver facing cameras, your speed is governed, you're tracked like a felon...terrible work conditions in my opinion. Wonder what constitutes "good" pay over there? I have talked to a few maverick guys while loading and they think $900 checks are good pay.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To me it's all a matter of opinion. Your opinion sounds a little triggered. I felt completely independent, only talked to my dispatcher, maybe once a week. No cameras facing me. I thought my 1200 average paychecks were exactly average. But this was a few years ago when I drove for them. (notice past tense there). Some would think I could/would talk all kinds of smack about them now, but they are just like any other organization I have worked for (plus/minuses), including the U.S. Air Force for 21 years. Now that's an organization that treats you like a kid.

  • @houstonbowers2803
    @houstonbowers2803 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the chain around the front? Just curious. Never hauled coils shotgun before. Only suicide

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trip chain, there to resist forward movement.

    • @hrevyaga82
      @hrevyaga82 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The chain across the front is kind of a [+]new requirement under new rules which is hard to put into practice without a coil caddy, pallet or cradle. Any item not ___[1]{against a bulkhead must have a secure way of "not allowing forward movement"} There is no bulk head or method that is going satisfy Gforce rule
      without going into extremes. ____read under CARGO SECUREMENT "_Performance Criteria_"
      1. 0.8 g deceleration in the forward direction;
      2. 0.5 g acceleration in the rearward direction; and
      3. 0.5 g acceleration in a lateral direction.
      How well must the securement system work? (Section 1.3)
      .80 % OF 42,000 = 33.600 lbs
      .50 g f acceleration is I/2 of weight in weight lbs
      [+]If you want to know or learn about the new rules which where implemented on September 27, 2002, Motor carriers operating in interstate commerce had to comply with the new requirements beginning January 1, 2004
      When I stopped driving in 2013 I would still hear the debates from many about the strap or chain having to be inside the rub-rails and the chain being wrapped around the whole pocket are they still being debated today?
      Proper Use of Tie-downs :
      The new regulations of 2002-04 require each tiedown to be attached and secured in a manner that prevents it from becoming loose, unfastening, opening or releasing while the vehicle is in transit. All tiedowns and other components of a cargo securement system used to secure loads on a trailer equipped with rub rails must be located inboard of the rub rails whenever practicable. Also, edge protection must be used whenever a tie-down would be subject to abrasion or cutting at the point where it touches an article of cargo. The edge protection must resist abrasion, cutting and crushing.
      www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/cargo-securement/cargo-securement-rules
      Cargo Placement and Restraint
      Articles of cargo that are likely to roll must be restrained by chocks, wedges, a cradle or other equivalent means to prevent rolling.
      www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/cargo-securement/drivers-handbook-cargo-securement-chapter-1-fundamentals-cargo *}-1.0 to 1.3 includes 2.3-{
      www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/cargo-securement/drivers-handbook-cargo-securement-chapter-5-metal-coils
      CONUNDRUM co·nun·drum
      / kəˈnəndrəm
      JUST BEFORE SEC 1.3
      ""Note: There can be some movement if it doesn't reduce the effectiveness of the securement system.""
      *[1]Note: If a tie-down is used around the front of the cradle, it does not count towards the aggregate WLL for tie-downs through the eye of the coil.
      Unfortunately some companies have the policy you can only haul them that way.
      Some may give you a choice but the driver ultimately pays for any tie down loading violations.
      The laws of physics aren't going to be in your favor if breaks loose. The industry should demand a better way which already exists for some in-house and company drivers.
      cradle for carrying coils www.gobizkorea.com/user/goods/frontGoodsDetail.do?goods_no=GS20180317144383
      th-cam.com/video/Y631E4xCA5I/w-d-xo.html
      Believe or not it is a lot easier to carry large boulders weighting 15k to 20k lbs which I have done. They don't have all the rules as steel and are just as dangerous.
      In Georgia in the 90's I loaded two large rocks total gross of truck was 77,500 Lbs but one of the rear tandems on trailer was off about 1,000 lbs they offered me to manually move one of the rocks, I opted to get a $22.00 ticket instead and hauled my happy ♫♪♪ back to NC instead, no one else bothered me on the way on I-85.
      Have seen these used in the USA by very few companies, it's time to come out of the stone age into the 21st century
      www.indiamart.com/proddetail/steel-coil-pallet-14062783230.html

  • @timothycaplinger9794
    @timothycaplinger9794 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your lumber is to small also

  • @apocyldoomer
    @apocyldoomer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I once had a Huge shipment of a coil cable for Amtrak, loaded unto a pup trailer, no chains or anything, just wood, I should have refused the load, but like a wuss, I did not, took the bridge that did not peak as much as the other bridge, delivered W/O a problem, scared to death the short run, never again will i do that!

  • @zelenizub2036
    @zelenizub2036 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The way he uses side rail it's suicide, those rails are not for chains. Especially not those squere pockets, chains will eat those like chese.

  • @shawnjarman2022
    @shawnjarman2022 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry. It you ether are new to flat bedding? Or haven't figured out how to manage your time

  • @benjaminnoordam7707
    @benjaminnoordam7707 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would recommend that you put the binders on the rear of the coil. I understand a 42k coil won't fall over but it's a good habit to practice for when you do skinny coils that could

  • @TheAbbacakes
    @TheAbbacakes 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video. interesting to see the process. thanks.

  • @ronplucksstrings7112
    @ronplucksstrings7112 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dale; Do they teach load securing in trucker training, and is that something they test you for when going for your license?...I sure hope so, because this is serious business, and I'd hate to see it be done wrong or shoddily, and the possible consequences...!
    OK on the Shotgun loading (vs suicide...now I know the diff from your other vid!)...redundant chains with edge-protectors securing side to side and fore and aft...and straps to keep load from shifting just for yucks (just kidding...probably required!)...I like it...and would feel pretty OK about driving along side of that...I sincerely hope every driver is as careful and thorough as you!
    Question: Does every single coil I see in that plant get moved individually by truck? (wow...that would seem like a pretty inefficient way...if many of them are going to the same place, auto plants for instance, I would think moving them many at a time by railroad would be more effective...not that I'm looking to put you out of business...I'm sure there would be plenty of individual coils to move places to keep you hopping...) Thanks again for a fascinating look into your world... Safe Travels and Cheers!

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ronplucksstrings many places we know do not have railroad access. All items that don't have railroad access are moved by truck cuz that that's the only way to get the product there. Some trailers do more move more than one coil at a time because it can handle the weight based on its design. But that is not the typical trailer is they are very expensive. Most of these coils weigh close to 50,000 lb so legally can only remove one of the time. Otherwise you would need permits to cost extra money for the transportation cost there's a lot of different parameters to take into consideration when these companies decide to move their products

  • @HansraRulez
    @HansraRulez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a question? You said coil is 45K lbs, then 4 chains (approx 5K lbs each) and 2 straps (approx 5k lbs each), total capacity of all these are around 30K lbs. OR i missed something?

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take weight, divide by 8k equals number of securements. Based on 2016 requirements, don't know if that has changed. I stopped driving years ago.

  • @blessedexpress4476
    @blessedexpress4476 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to the saying "eye to the side"???

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I try to remember to say both for the learned and unlearned folks out there.

  • @docstruthers
    @docstruthers 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm 90 sure I'm gonna go flatbed when I sign with a mega carrier. Swift, prime, etc. Not sure yet. What was your biggest challenge with flatbed? What about everyone reading this that does flatbed?

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I considered tarping lumber loads my biggest challenge. The tarps are heavy and the height can be difficult to lift at times

    • @matthewt76
      @matthewt76 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you want to haul steel and want to like the job find a company that uses covered wagons or conastogas screw that tarping garbage hats off to those who tarp but there is a better way out there

  • @waynepatterson5526
    @waynepatterson5526 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks dale I am a maverick I get onboard when I'm done with school and I did put you as a reference hope to meet you one day maverick brother

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Wayne Patterson Thank you sir, I appreciate that

  • @carlosdailey75
    @carlosdailey75 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Video Dale!

  • @charlesdyer2376
    @charlesdyer2376 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    That will wear yer ass out quick time.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometime when the heat is high it sure does.

  • @indy1698
    @indy1698 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Efficient. I'm thinking this isn't his first day. Lol

  • @1985-o7g
    @1985-o7g 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    all the loads u will do everything?

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The shipper loads it, then yes, i do everything else

  • @doubleoseven7827
    @doubleoseven7827 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm going to sleep.... zzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zz

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I fell asleep reading thizzzzzzz......zzzzzz

  • @checkfoldcallraise
    @checkfoldcallraise 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to train with a company like this that actually takes the time to properly secure loads. I work for a local, pay-by-load company. The training I received will secure loads just fine but in a very rushed manner. Very minimum on the securement to just get it there quick. Also, your trailer is awesome and not all bent up. Our trailers have smashed-in rails, cracked welds and holes in the decks. Very difficult to even fit a binder hook through the beat up rails. Thanks for sharing the shotgun method. I only know to load suicide style. Drive safe.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome, be safe out there.

  • @gladiator5281
    @gladiator5281 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    securing the flatbed load is a work of Art and you are an Artist sir!

  • @_rafaelitoooo
    @_rafaelitoooo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!

  • @RobertHughes-j5m
    @RobertHughes-j5m ปีที่แล้ว

    wrong

  • @jasondodrill1037
    @jasondodrill1037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your doing it wrong lmao

  • @maxpuppy96
    @maxpuppy96 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video on how to secure a shotgun coil, include the tarping mine was always bad, so I went to using coil bags LOL!!!

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mark Nairn Thanks. Lol

  • @bookerz100
    @bookerz100 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only thing I might suggest. Is to hook the chains to the rub rail and hook the bungees up like you do to maintain the tension while your are still up on the deck. That would save a climb down, a climb up and a trip around the trailer. It would save a small amount of time and slightly safer because you are reducing the number of times you have to get up on the deck

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always improving, thanks for the suggestions.

  • @philsnaith6646
    @philsnaith6646 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi Dale,, another great update, hope that your home withy your family this weekend,, have a great peaceful weekend,

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not this weekend, unfortunately with me have a late start (Wednesday) I am out for the weekend.

  • @Theyrun
    @Theyrun 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    When loading that much weight in one coil do you center that off the kingpin? so to say is the center of the trailer the best place for that much weight?

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Theyrun Yes in my opinion.

  • @gateway8833
    @gateway8833 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will never bitch about lumber again!

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Abby Babby lol

  • @jbh6343
    @jbh6343 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The people critiquing your load securement always come off as intelligent and polite. 🙄 Love the videos, keep up the good work.

    • @DaleLClay
      @DaleLClay  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Josh Hanna lol