Fun S2000 fact, it has a start button, not a start/stop button. To turn the car off you simply turn the key like a normal car. If you hit the button with the engine running you’ll hear the lovely grind of the starter motor bumping the spinning flywheel 😬. I miss my Suzuka 03 AP1, it was my only car and daily for about 5 years. Fun times.
It is impossible to not love an S2000. It had the highest brake horsepower per litre for NA production cars when it debuted, it's still pretty phenomenal now!
ive driven alot of sports cars. and as an s2000 owner, maybe it is bias, it is the most fun you can have on 4 wheels. the shifter is the best and the thrills one can have without breaking the law. Honda at its peak. I wish theyd make a newer one. the f20 f22 series engines were beast.
Don't think cars like this will ever come back. Emissions standards are too strict to allow for high-RPM N/A engines with good throttle response. I figured this out when I failed emissions by just removing the rev-hang from my old civic. It increases the NOx just enough to fail. That's why manuals with sharp throttle response are a thing of the past. Younger driving enthusiasts don't even know how good the manual sports cars were from the 90's and early 2000's... Razor sharp response and total driver-control. Newer cars are just "floor it and let the computers take care of everything."
My generation will be the last to fully enjoy the combustion engine. There are still great cars on the market that can be argued cross-generationally, but none of that will matter once hybrids and EV sedans and SUVs take over.
@@Grafyte Failed for NOx two emissions cycles in a row and passed after re-enabling rev-hang each time. A good cat can handle the extra hydrocarbons, but it apparently fails to pick up the NOx caused by the lean spikes that occur any time the RPM peaks and falls quickly without rev-hang. The "intention" of rev-hang is simply to reduce AFR spikes and their resultant emissions during aggressive throttle manipulations. It accomplishes this by essentially overriding/prohibiting those manipulations, thereby making the car have shitty throttle response. Its intolerable if you actually care about driving and know how a real sports car feels.
@@CasterTown I'm willing to accept that I'm wrong about rev-hang being the reason you failed emissions for NOx, but the only time it will make a difference in NOx will be at throttle tip-in. There are no lean spikes when the rpm peaks and drops quickly. Those are rich spikes. The lean spikes are when the throttle is closed then suddenly opens, which to be perfectly fair, does happen just as often as the peaks when driving manual.
The AP1 S2k was a long time dream car for me, ideally in this color combo, the blue on blue, or white on beige. I’d still love to own one if the opportunity ever presents itself.
AP1 S2000 owner here with 113k miles. New convertible top, new clutch, extended floor mats, fujitsobo exhaust and AP2 v1 wheels. The car looks and drives amazing! Best gear box in the business. Awesome all around.
Such straight roads out there...what a pity! S2K is all about the curves! Every time another one of these videos comes out the value of my S2000 goes up a bit... love it 😂
Great video! I love my AP1. Had it for over 18 years, got 260,000 miles, but it still lets you drive it like in this video. Just remember to check the oil if you drive it hard.
Just watched the co-ownership review a couple weeks ago! 🤣🤣 this is awesome! When I get a sports car it's between an s2000, Boxster S, c5/c6, and an MR2 Spyder.
I had an Ap2 trans in my 02 AP1 and it was perfection with an 8lb flywheel. Its still on my list to buy another S2000 and be an owner for the 3rd time again lol
Nice Rev matches on both up and down shifts, man. Many reviewers make the mistake of shifting up too fast from 1st to 2nd and then make the jump forward. Nice driving there.
I have an 8th gen si, I have always wanted to drive an s2000. Watching reviews and this video, can relate to a lot of this just that my revs are 8400, I am fwd, and I have intake, header, and exhaust. Personally, I love being able to rev my car out and rip on it without having to worry about reliability or getting a massive speeding ticket. One day I will drive an s2000.
I have both 8th gen si (fa5) and AP1 s2000, I feel like both are equal in terms of speed as I have both fbo tuned pretty evenly matched but if both are in stock form the s2000 pulls harder n wins top end, but in terms of nimbleness the s2000 is quicker for turns and such it just feels lighter on its feet if that makes sense.
it's kinda weird that we don't make cars like that anymore. I mean, the ND Miata is definitely pretty close, and in many ways it's better, but it's like we prefer building and buying boring cars when we used to build 9,000 rpm roadsters for the masses. I hope to see the day when every automatic is an EV, and only manual trans gas cars could be allowed to be manufactured.
WE didn't used to build 9000rpm roadsters for the masses, HONDA built a 9000rpm roadster for a somewhat affordable price (was still much more expensive than a NB or NC miata) and Honda lost money on each car they built. Building an S2000 is not feasible for any car company, Honda just wanted to do something special on their birthday. And there are some car companies that still build special cars like Toyota's GR Yaris, takes 10 times longer to build than a standard Yaris but still very affordable.
My father has an '02 with 20k on it. Same colors but with the factory black seats.. He keeps saying he is gonna sell it but I keep telling him to hold on to it.
Not a race car but definitely makes you feel like it’s capable I remember a friends friend I passed at a Rotary he was in a Mercedes S63 and then got caught at a traffic light they pulled up smiling.. By the time I crossed the intersection when the light turned green he was 15 car lengths ahead 😅
I will forever wish that they used hydraulic steering instead of electrically assisted. I feel like a higher up at Honda forced it in - if you read and watch the press documents from when it was release they love to talk about how efficient it was despite being a sports car, and using EPS was one of the ways they did it. I love my 2002 AP1, and I think it would be my perfect car if the steering felt like my 987 Boxster S
😢one of my dreams cars. i remember the day Honda launch it. but i didn't have a job and THE DEALER IN MY COUNTRY NEVER SOLD IT HERE..!! 😞.. i can't wait to buy one. as always Ted. you amazing. thank you for the video.
its a good car the sound is really better in real , i had this as my first car last 2009model everyone thinks its slow but its faster on straight line then like mitsubishi evo9 or subaru impreza back then , from 0-100 abit slow yeah
"Burns oil" add the bg complete engine resoration along with the bg 44k itll COMPLETELT clean the cylinders along with everything in the engine. Look it up, theres this camaro that didnt run and it was saved with this stuff
Unfortunately if the Honda roadster did come back, it would be in the form of a heavy EV or, at best, a hybrid still heavy with batteries. Even if it was ICE powered it would only rev to 6 or 6.5. These days are over and it sucks but it is what it is.
Love Tedward and Topher, but man I wished they had better roads nearby. Bunch of on ramps and 90 degree angle turns are no substitute for a good canyon road
Great video, I have a 2004 ap2 s2000 that I’m wanting to film POV videos for. I see you list all your equipment used, but do you potentially have a video where you go over setting it up and using it?
Fun car! I’m surprised nobody has mentioned what height you should be (or under) to comfortably fit into one of these. Not everyone will fit unless you want to be driving a stick shift with one knee against the door and the other against the middle console. Yet you will still gladly drive it each time! 😂
People often put K series in these cars simply because they're better engines. It was a BIG fail that Honda didn't make the s2000 the first K powered car. Instead of spending all the money to modify the F series, Accord engine, to make power. If they had put a K in it from the beginning, they would have sold as many as they could have built, because it would have low rpm torque too.
Never understood the citicism that comes from america towards the S2000. The AP1 has enough torque to follow traffic in a city and if you drive sporty on a mountain road or a track, the whole fun and challenge of the car is to keep the revs high. That ofc takes skills which have to be practised. The S2000 is perfect as it was first designed, the AP2 was never planned but existed only in the US because Americans cannot live without doing traffic light "pulls" xD. The biggest critisim i have towards the car are the factory seats, they are really trash and don't support you at all! So a bucket seat is a must. And they should have used a hydraulic steering rack, although it's not as bad as everyone says. And the brakes could have been a size bigger from factory, although those are really good brakes.
Fun fact - the gauge cluster is a copy and homage to Ayrton Sennas McLaren mp4/4 F1 race car.
wow that intro. i know yall are friends but its always so funny to see all 3 of you in the same video
funny to see tedward so close to my home also
It’s like the Spider-Man scene
Fun S2000 fact, it has a start button, not a start/stop button. To turn the car off you simply turn the key like a normal car. If you hit the button with the engine running you’ll hear the lovely grind of the starter motor bumping the spinning flywheel 😬. I miss my Suzuka 03 AP1, it was my only car and daily for about 5 years. Fun times.
Was going to say the same. Kinda scary if you’re not thinking
Same as a Civic 8th gen spaceship EU version :)
It is impossible to not love an S2000. It had the highest brake horsepower per litre for NA production cars when it debuted, it's still pretty phenomenal now!
That VTEC sounds incredible. would take this over any of those expensive super cars.
Man even though I am not a honda fan this this is awsome either way
TOPHER IN THE FLESHHHHH
Red seats🤤
That Audi sounds amazing!! I miss my 2002 S2000. It was a fun car to drive.
ive driven alot of sports cars. and as an s2000 owner, maybe it is bias, it is the most fun you can have on 4 wheels. the shifter is the best and the thrills one can have without breaking the law. Honda at its peak. I wish theyd make a newer one. the f20 f22 series engines were beast.
honda s2000 is a legend!
AP1 especially
I just got to check out an S2000 in person yesterday for the first time! I love them. I can totally see why they hold their value so well.
Watching Tedward become a true Honda enjoyer over time has been so much fun.
Wobbly shift knob. Reminds of my S2000. Replace the engine and trans mounts and it'll be solid again.
It's a bit older, so they should do a lot, but the magic is just ripping it for what it is!!!
that is not normal for an S2000, probably the transmission and or engine mounts need to be replaced. Maybe one coil or spark plug is not just right.
7:49 wild how fast that rs7 gets out of the way
that thing is a BEAST
Tedward video on Topher's streets? Sometimes I forget those two live in the same dimension
I hope they collaborate more in the future!
Don't think cars like this will ever come back. Emissions standards are too strict to allow for high-RPM N/A engines with good throttle response. I figured this out when I failed emissions by just removing the rev-hang from my old civic. It increases the NOx just enough to fail. That's why manuals with sharp throttle response are a thing of the past. Younger driving enthusiasts don't even know how good the manual sports cars were from the 90's and early 2000's... Razor sharp response and total driver-control. Newer cars are just "floor it and let the computers take care of everything."
My generation will be the last to fully enjoy the combustion engine. There are still great cars on the market that can be argued cross-generationally, but none of that will matter once hybrids and EV sedans and SUVs take over.
Eliminating rev hang causes hydrocarbon emissions to go up ... rev hang does not and was never intended to impact NOx
@@Grafyte Failed for NOx two emissions cycles in a row and passed after re-enabling rev-hang each time. A good cat can handle the extra hydrocarbons, but it apparently fails to pick up the NOx caused by the lean spikes that occur any time the RPM peaks and falls quickly without rev-hang. The "intention" of rev-hang is simply to reduce AFR spikes and their resultant emissions during aggressive throttle manipulations. It accomplishes this by essentially overriding/prohibiting those manipulations, thereby making the car have shitty throttle response. Its intolerable if you actually care about driving and know how a real sports car feels.
@@CasterTown I'm willing to accept that I'm wrong about rev-hang being the reason you failed emissions for NOx, but the only time it will make a difference in NOx will be at throttle tip-in. There are no lean spikes when the rpm peaks and drops quickly. Those are rich spikes. The lean spikes are when the throttle is closed then suddenly opens, which to be perfectly fair, does happen just as often as the peaks when driving manual.
The super high revs has me thinking the engine note is a combo of motor bike and F1 car. I like it!
The AP1 S2k was a long time dream car for me, ideally in this color combo, the blue on blue, or white on beige. I’d still love to own one if the opportunity ever presents itself.
This car aged so good. Timeless design.
AP1 S2000 owner here with 113k miles. New convertible top, new clutch, extended floor mats, fujitsobo exhaust and AP2 v1 wheels. The car looks and drives amazing! Best gear box in the business. Awesome all around.
Such straight roads out there...what a pity! S2K is all about the curves! Every time another one of these videos comes out the value of my S2000 goes up a bit... love it 😂
I really enjoy this pov drive oh 9000 RPM 🎉
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i cannot explain how much i LOVE your povs :)!
Thank you!
You must have a lot of fun working . Living the dream 💪🏼
This is probably THE perfect sports car
Missing 2 cylinders and a bit of displacement - Imagine, if it had a 3.0L I6, revving to 9000 rpm too, it would've been perfect.
@@nvl2691too much weight
@@TT92348 especially if part of it is now hanging over the front axle
@@nvl2691 E46 m3 would be your closest bet, though id say thats a completely different car
@@maxypoo4652a 146k mile e46 m3 that you can still drive hard feels like something that rarely exists.
Great video! I love my AP1. Had it for over 18 years, got 260,000 miles, but it still lets you drive it like in this video. Just remember to check the oil if you drive it hard.
High rpms sounding amazing 👌
Such a legendary car.
Best year, best color combo, best S2K.
I just bought my first Honda almost a month ago and I love it. 2011 Accord with the K24Z3
My grandmother's friend had a 2006 Honda S2000. It was fun to ride in.
The AP1 Honda S2000 ROCKS
very fun cars to drive. I own a AP1 year 2000. 41,000 miles, renovated at LHT Performance. Primo little car
Just watched the co-ownership review a couple weeks ago! 🤣🤣 this is awesome! When I get a sports car it's between an s2000, Boxster S, c5/c6, and an MR2 Spyder.
I would add the Lotus Elise to that list
@@FB-ng4pp I would but I'm 6'1 and 6'3 with shoes on 😅 may need a frame extension like shaq to fit in one haha
That linear power and mechanical rasp reminds me a bit of my E85 M Roadster.
A face to the voice of Topher
Love the the car, the episode, and the friendship between awesome creators ❤
I had an Ap2 trans in my 02 AP1 and it was perfection with an 8lb flywheel. Its still on my list to buy another S2000 and be an owner for the 3rd time again lol
Nice Rev matches on both up and down shifts, man. Many reviewers make the mistake of shifting up too fast from 1st to 2nd and then make the jump forward. Nice driving there.
I hate the idea of polygamy BUT the way you guys do it makes it look awesome 👍👍👍
Man I’ve always wanted one of these but the prices are just such a bummer..
They don’t make them like this anymore.
Yeah i am settling toward an ND3 since it is similar to an s2k
@@Sayu2x I drive an ND2 and I’d highly recommend it. More daily friendly than an S2K and way more modern and reliable.
@@evanb09 RIP steering feel
@@yungrichnbroke5199 i drove an nd2 back to back with my e36 m3 and didn't think the steering feel was far off at all
i love my s2000 so much i can’t even put in words. i will never ever sell it. no car can replace the experience of driving an s2000
stop making my dream cars go up in value
A light RWD NA sports car with a little bit of performance is all you need if you're into driving.
OMG THE SOUND! 😩😩
13:45 google street view car
Found them maps.app.goo.gl/eqD7UHoSEJPvQfVN6
the crossover we needed
Love VTEC... in any of Honda's cars...and I've owned a bunch. Great video.
These cars are so underrated these days. These cars were amazing and have aged so well
If only these didnt cost exorbitant amounts. At least this car warrants the high prices, such a great piece of machinery.
love the new logo design too !
I have an 8th gen si, I have always wanted to drive an s2000. Watching reviews and this video, can relate to a lot of this just that my revs are 8400, I am fwd, and I have intake, header, and exhaust. Personally, I love being able to rev my car out and rip on it without having to worry about reliability or getting a massive speeding ticket. One day I will drive an s2000.
U got that MDP peddle brace?
I have both 8th gen si (fa5) and AP1 s2000, I feel like both are equal in terms of speed as I have both fbo tuned pretty evenly matched but if both are in stock form the s2000 pulls harder n wins top end, but in terms of nimbleness the s2000 is quicker for turns and such it just feels lighter on its feet if that makes sense.
9:55 an absolute dream
Music to my ears
I literally was like "It would be cool if Topher and Tedward did a video together" and then I clicked on this video lol
These are my favourite 4 cylinder engine ever.
it's kinda weird that we don't make cars like that anymore. I mean, the ND Miata is definitely pretty close, and in many ways it's better, but it's like we prefer building and buying boring cars when we used to build 9,000 rpm roadsters for the masses.
I hope to see the day when every automatic is an EV, and only manual trans gas cars could be allowed to be manufactured.
WE didn't used to build 9000rpm roadsters for the masses, HONDA built a 9000rpm roadster for a somewhat affordable price (was still much more expensive than a NB or NC miata) and Honda lost money on each car they built. Building an S2000 is not feasible for any car company, Honda just wanted to do something special on their birthday. And there are some car companies that still build special cars like Toyota's GR Yaris, takes 10 times longer to build than a standard Yaris but still very affordable.
@@binskee677 we = humanity, not you and I
also, if all engines were 9,000 rpm-capable, they'd all sell.
yes i'm kidding, but also half serious.
@@ThePilotGear what i meant is that cars like the S2000 were not common back then as well, it was always the exception.
@@binskee677 I know, but we need more 'exceptions'.
@@ThePilotGear agree!! 🤝
hi ted! nice s2k
Man how good that RS7 handles!
I've owned two AP1s... one of the best sports cars ever made.
My father has an '02 with 20k on it. Same colors but with the factory black seats.. He keeps saying he is gonna sell it but I keep telling him to hold on to it.
It's crazy how similar the interior is to my 00 insight.
Fun fact the second car I drove after I got my learners permit was a s2000 still an experience I’m chasing they’re amazing cars
I'd pay to have this car completely restored and keep it while it appreciates in value
Best car I’ve ever owned…and stupidly let go of years ago. Add forced induction and it’s arguably the perfect sports car even more.
Not a race car but definitely makes you feel like it’s capable I remember a friends friend I passed at a Rotary he was in a Mercedes S63 and then got caught at a traffic light they pulled up smiling.. By the time I crossed the intersection when the light turned green he was 15 car lengths ahead 😅
I will forever wish that they used hydraulic steering instead of electrically assisted. I feel like a higher up at Honda forced it in - if you read and watch the press documents from when it was release they love to talk about how efficient it was despite being a sports car, and using EPS was one of the ways they did it.
I love my 2002 AP1, and I think it would be my perfect car if the steering felt like my 987 Boxster S
Topher channeling some serious Altima energy in that RS7 😂😂😂
It’s always funny to see the faces behind the voices. None of you look like what I thought you’d look like.
I love the S2000 but that RS7 was distracting me the whole time 😂. (In a good way)
Don't keep the tip down all the time. It will set, wrinkle and that will pull the fabric and could rip while putting it up especially if cold.
😢one of my dreams cars. i remember the day Honda launch it. but i didn't have a job and THE DEALER IN MY COUNTRY NEVER SOLD IT HERE..!! 😞..
i can't wait to buy one.
as always Ted. you amazing. thank you for the video.
Thank you for watching!
@@TedwardDrives You are very welcome 😊. by the way. if you can travel oversea to drive cars. let me know. i wish a wonderful day my friend.
Come by our shop and drive one of our AMW HEMI, Hellcat, Demon or Demon 170 Jeep Wrangler/Gladiators next time you're in Michigan!
There is more storage @ 3:42 . When you open that glove box there’s another hidden button at the top.
OMG Amazing cute little sports car :3 ❤️
Love from Brisbane, Queensland 🇦🇺 ❤️
So there's two Tom's and two Topher's? The Tedwardverse lore is expanding! 😂
Very nice car!
its a good car the sound is really better in real , i had this as my first car last 2009model everyone thinks its slow but its faster on straight line then like mitsubishi evo9 or subaru impreza back then , from 0-100 abit slow yeah
just when i was debating buying one of these
I have yet to experience a convertible car this will be it for sure
These are hard to find these days. You're better off getting a Miata
@@porfiriato84 not for me there’s a dealership by my house that has about 20 in stock
"Burns oil" add the bg complete engine resoration along with the bg 44k itll COMPLETELT clean the cylinders along with everything in the engine. Look it up, theres this camaro that didnt run and it was saved with this stuff
Beautiful and very fun car to drive ❤👍🏻
Just got my AP1 out of storage. Man is it just the bee’s knees.
12 grand is insane bro I’ve been looking for one for so long and the best price I got was 15
AP1 Baby!!!
Looking at the prices and its wild to me that an '05 S2000 and Viper have a sizable price range overlap. But it also makes perfect sense. 😅
Bolt ons and a tune should wake her up. That induction noise should not be sacrificed for loud turbo noises.
Come drive my S2000 CR!
my dream car
Unfortunately if the Honda roadster did come back, it would be in the form of a heavy EV or, at best, a hybrid still heavy with batteries. Even if it was ICE powered it would only rev to 6 or 6.5. These days are over and it sucks but it is what it is.
After that electric urban assault platform this is a real refresher. I hope you actually drove this after on your timeline lol
Haha yes I drove this after
Now we have Tedward Tophering on video, does that mean Topher is taking a trip East to Tedward? Tohpedward is youtube Turducken.
The only 4 cylinder that sounds good.
Love Tedward and Topher, but man I wished they had better roads nearby. Bunch of on ramps and 90 degree angle turns are no substitute for a good canyon road
Michigan is not known for its mountains :p
I love the steering.. almost dies cornering that little curve lmao
Oversteer isn’t almost dying 😂
Great video, I have a 2004 ap2 s2000 that I’m wanting to film POV videos for. I see you list all your equipment used, but do you potentially have a video where you go over setting it up and using it?
Fun car! I’m surprised nobody has mentioned what height you should be (or under) to comfortably fit into one of these. Not everyone will fit unless you want to be driving a stick shift with one knee against the door and the other against the middle console. Yet you will still gladly drive it each time! 😂
Probably 6 feet and up are gonna get uncomfortable with knees
ND miata best daily / fun sports car for the money by far.
People often put K series in these cars simply because they're better engines. It was a BIG fail that Honda didn't make the s2000 the first K powered car. Instead of spending all the money to modify the F series, Accord engine, to make power.
If they had put a K in it from the beginning, they would have sold as many as they could have built, because it would have low rpm torque too.
Never understood the citicism that comes from america towards the S2000. The AP1 has enough torque to follow traffic in a city and if you drive sporty on a mountain road or a track, the whole fun and challenge of the car is to keep the revs high. That ofc takes skills which have to be practised. The S2000 is perfect as it was first designed, the AP2 was never planned but existed only in the US because Americans cannot live without doing traffic light "pulls" xD. The biggest critisim i have towards the car are the factory seats, they are really trash and don't support you at all! So a bucket seat is a must. And they should have used a hydraulic steering rack, although it's not as bad as everyone says. And the brakes could have been a size bigger from factory, although those are really good brakes.