How it Works: Deep Inside a Cutaway Profitec Pro 700 Espresso Machine
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- See inside a Profitec Pro 700 espresso machine with cutaway components. It's an espresso geek's dream come true! Todd from WholeLatteLove.com takes you on a tour of the machine with all components cut open to reveal how they function internally. Watch as he traces the water flow through the machine from entry to exit including a cutaway E61 group. Special thanks to our friends at Profitec for providing the cutaway machine for this video.
Learn more about the Dual Boiler Profitec Pro 700 here:
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This is basically the best in-depth video that showcases the brilliant engineering and design by Profitec. All a salesman need to do is compare this to any other competing espresso machine with a cutaway to close the deal.
Hi Sebastian, Thanks for the comment. The Pro 700 is one well built machine!
I greatly appreciate the time you two took to demonstrate the workings and quality of the machine. Awesome video!! This greatly influences my buying decision and is a really stand up way to do business... Thanks Guys...!
Hi SuperDave, Thanks for your comment! We do our best to inform. You are welcome!
I was already 99% for the profitec pro 700, now i'm 100% after this video. Great great great!!
Hi Bruno, Thanks for your comment! The Pro 700 does not disappoint! Not to throw a wrinkle into your decision, but as mentioned elsewhere in the comments you owe to yourself to check out the ECM Synchronika as well. The internals are essentially identical to the Pro 700 but it comes with some added touches to the exterior, an included tamper and an innovative case design. See the review video here: th-cam.com/video/hunFv7E51L8/w-d-xo.html
What did you end up getting? and did you like it?
This is such an amazing video. What a beautiful machine. please do more of these videos 🌹🌷
Thank you! Will do!
Thanks, will do!
@@Wholelattelovepage appreciate it 🌷
Love Coffee, love engineering. Great video, much appreciated.
Hi Jake, You are welcome! Thanks for your comment a whole latte :)
Watching Todd demonstrate the build quality on the PROFITEC is the best sales pitch I've ever heard.
On first view I knew what machine I would purchase...A done deal. Just dragging my feet over the cost but continue to gather information.
Your videos have been outstanding!
I'm leaning towards the next model up. For 200 dollars extra, it's a nice upgrade.
Hi Rick, Thanks for the kind comments., Todd does know his espresso machines! He's likely been inside more machines than anyone in the US. Guessing you're considering the ECM Synchronika? It is a fine upgrade for another 200. The machines are essentially identical on the inside. The ECM is more refined in the exterior finish detail, has angled PF and includes a quality tamper. ECM also has a unique outer case which allows for quick/easy panel removal. One last difference are the steam and hot water valves. Both machines utilize low wear sprung valves with the ECM's operated with levers and the PP700 using knobs. Please let us know if you have any questions.
Whole Latte Love I do have a question on the 300 model. What's with the steam boiler pressure guage over showing brew pressure which I find more useful. The 300 is really all I need but lack of showing brew pressure makes it a no buy for me.
I'm down to drinking just amercanos with my second BDB which is on its last legs. Will eventually rebuild it as a project but I want a new machine now.
The fit & finish on the Synchronika is stunning!
If I had the money, I would buy two of them. One, to make coffee with, and the other to put on display as a nice work of art. These machines are nicely made.
Hi Blues, Profitec machines are well put together! If you like the Pro 700, be sure and check out the ECM Synchronika if you have not already. It's nearly identical to the Pro 700 internals and specs. For a couple hundred more $$ it adds another level of refinement. Things like: extra detail finishes on the E61that match with lever and PF handles, angled PFs, included bottomless PF, matching logo etched tamper, silvered PID display and a truly innovative case design.
See the review video here: th-cam.com/video/hunFv7E51L8/w-d-xo.html
More details here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ecm-synchronika-dual-boiler-espresso-machine
Excellent video. Thanks for making something so technical. It has convinced me to buy a Profitec as my upgrade machine.
Hi SDAG, Thanks a whole latte for the comment. We have a bunch of other videos on the Pro 700 like a complete internal tour: th-cam.com/video/iKRWh4ophGE/w-d-xo.html
How to Adjust Brew Pressure: th-cam.com/video/2ArWAtuUTOM/w-d-xo.html
How to remove and install the housing: th-cam.com/video/Hz56LQ11UbE/w-d-xo.html
How to adjust the brew switch for line pressure pre-infusion: th-cam.com/video/jfeBCfzhkaQ/w-d-xo.html
And there's a ton more!
Marc
Very useful video. I bought the ECM Synchronika and it's pretty much the same quality build. I love the DB system with PID. The pump works very smooth. I also love the fact that you can do almost everything yourself. Thks for showing us. Greets from Holland!
Hi Peter, Thanks for the comment! The ECM is very similar to this machine internally. Big difference is a little more refinement of the external components. Greeting back from the US.
Wow thats a very detailed educational video!! Awesome stuff WLL!!
Hi Daniel, Thanks for your comment. We do our best to provide the most detailed information on espresso machines.
This is amazing! Can not wait to get one and mod it to change all that copper plumbing into stainless steel alternatives. Also anticipating if you could produce one model with all-stainless steel timeless version!
Hi JL, If you do the mod please send us photos/video! Next time I talk to Profitec I'll ask if an all stainless model is a possibility. I do wonder what that would do in regards to the thermal properties of the machine.
I really like the Pro 700 and if I were to get a dual boiler I will get the Pro 700. My only wish is they would relocate those pressure gauges on the top section.. This machine has plenty of room upstairs after seeing the interior of this machine, then and only then I will seriously purchase one. I must have watched this video a dozen times. I like Todd for being so humble and you as professional guide. Your videos set you guys way ahead of your competition, who is insulting and offensive to the viewers.
Hi Ricardo, Thanks for sharing your thoughts. If you must have the gauges up top take a look at the ECM Synchronika. It's essentially identical to the Pro 700 internally. While the Pro 700 has excellent quality finishing and details the Synchronika takes it a step further with a custom taper of the E61 group head, upgraded trim accents, angled portafilters, joystick valve operation and the gauges up top!
Marc
Fantastic, just great watching someone that really knows what they are talking about.
Hi Robert, Thank you for the comment!
Thanks for all the great videos. That's the reason why I choose the Pro 700. I'm confident to work on the machine myself (wich I do now).
Hi G G, You are welcome and thanks for your comment! Pro 700 is a fine machine - enjoy!
Marc
Best video yet, loved it, very informative! Think I may finally be ready to pull the trigger on one.
Hi Victor, Thanks for your comment! You will not be disappointed with the Pro 700. Let us know if you have any questions.
Very nice job boys! Still researching for a March purchase. This helps a lot.
Our pleasure! Thanks for your comment!
As always a great instructional and terrific video. Look forward to seeing the how to replace a solenoid valve part 30 on page 4 part section for the Profitec Pro 700 ( I think that is the number and page). Was hoping to find a video on replacing the solenoid valve on the Pro700.
Thanks WLL as always
The best!
thanks sir
Most welcome
Fantastic video guys. I learnt so much watching this.
Hi Mr. M, Awesome! Thanks for taking a moment to leave your comment - it's appreciated!
Marc
Great video and very informative.
Thanks for you great efforts ...
Hi Ahmad, You are welcome. Thanks for your comment!
Hi guys, Great videos, very informative. When will you be doing the complete rebuild for the Profitec 700 , can't wait.
Hi John, Thanks for the comment! A complete rebuild would be a really long video! We will be doing an E61 brew group rebuild video in the near future. In the meantime, here's a link to our Profitec Pro 700 Support Wiki. It has loads of embedded videos, troubleshooting info as well as manual and parts diagrams. Without question the most complete Pro 700 resource available: wiki.wholelattelove.com/Profitec_Pro_700
That was really cool to see, this is what convinced me to buy from you. I can really see your passion, knowledge, and relationship with the products in your videos. Can't wait to order my Pro 700 soon!
Hi Hailex, Thanks for the comment! We visited the Profitec/ECM production facility in Italy a couple of months ago. If you are interested in seeing the place where your future machine is built and hearing about the passion for innovation at Profitec/ECM here's some video from our visit: th-cam.com/video/K0RI5rdz4Ww/w-d-xo.html
Also, if you need any assistance/advice with your purchase we've got coffee pros you can talk to via phone, chat or email: www.wholelattelove.com/contact-us
Thanks for the video! It was very useful for me. I just subscribed to see all the videos ;)
Hi Jose, Thanks for subscribing - glad you found this video useful!
Loved this video!!! Need more! Love the 700!
Hi am, Thanks for the comment! I love the Pro 700! Search our channel for "700" and you'll see it gets a whole latte love appearing in more than 37 videos!
Marc
10/10 Great presentation
Hey Ionic, Thanks for the comment. If you liked this video you'll love this one which has cutaway models of four boiler types used in espresso machines: th-cam.com/video/OUywoRs4meY/w-d-xo.html
Marc
very professional thank you
Hi PM, You are welcome and thank you for taking the time to leave a comment!
Marc
You mentioned about a water conditioning system offered if this machine, or any other machine, is hooked to a waterline...not a reservoir. Please send me a link so I can think about this as an add-on. Thanks
Hi row, Here the link to the BWT Bestmax premium: www.wholelattelove.com/products/bwt-bestmax-premium-filter-package-w-besthead-flex
Marc
Good coffee machines are like guns: simple, reasonable, reliable and durable.
Hi e, Thanks for comment. Yes K.I.S.S. design!
Marc
Excellent video, very interesting .
Hi N, Thanks for taking a moment to leave a comment!
Marc
Great Video. I understand the group head should be re-built every 12 months. Are the seals inside available for purchase? You mentioned you were going to make a video specifically on the re-build. Has that been done yet?
Hi Chris, Thanks for your comment! The E61 rebuild video is coming and we're in the process of putting together a rebuild kit. Stay tuned!
@@Wholelattelovepage Has the E61 rebuild video been done? If so can you provide a link? Thank you!
Hi guys,
A great video, as always. Could you do a similar video with the Alex Izzo Duetto 3? Or maybe one of your informative reviews or a comparison with this particular machine and other dual boilers? :) Thanks.
Hi Philip, Thanks for your comment and video request! We'd love to do a video like that on the Duetto 3. Was very nice of our friends at Profitec to send us the cutaway machine for this video! Will see what we can do.
Great and informative video! Have you done, or would you consider doing the same thing on an Expobar?
Thanks for your comment! We do not have a cutaway Expobar machine, but we have done a number of videos with detailed internal views/explanations of components. Here's one: th-cam.com/video/VoMPuYFMt7s/w-d-xo.html
Like with the vibration pumps on the Gaggia and Silvia, does the rotaion pump have a 50/50 ish duty cycle aswell? Or can you run it for longer?
Thank you so much for filming this video it is very helpful.Please can you clarify what is the white small vertical cylinder hidden between the rotatory pump and the back of front panel?
other thing is my machine make metallic shaky sound after the rototary pump finish filling the steam boiler with water(only with steam boiler water filling and excatly when the rotatory pump stop after finishing the filling process of steam boiler) ,any idea.Thank you again.
Hi Omar, Great Question! The white cylinder is a capacitor. It temporarily stores electrical energy. The capacitor in US model Pro 700s is larger and in a different location than EU machine shown in this video.
On the sound... would have to hear it but could just be the pump winding down or perhaps a solenoid closing.
Thank you for reply.
How come the brew boiler don't have a fill probe sensor?
Thanks for the video btw.
No need for a fill probe in the brew boiler of a dual boiler machine. In normal operation the boiler is always completely filled. Steam boiler needs a fill probe so it only fills partially leaving head room for steam.
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Whole Latte Love!
Hey guys, this is the best video about espresso machine ever. Do you have about Profitec pro 800 lever?
Hi ii, Thganks for the comment and request. I have some video of the Pro 800 in operation but don't think there's much on the internals. Check the product page here which will include any relevant videos: www.wholelattelove.com/products/profitec-pro-800-lever-group-espresso-machine
And, you can find a parts diagram located in our suppport wiki for the Pro 800 here: wiki.wholelattelove.com/Profitec_Pro_800/diagrams_and_manuals
Marc
Hi, is very instructive this operation video, but do you have any video how to make a descaling?
Or maybe show us why we need to do this maintenance operation correctly and make the coffee machine work perfectly.
I have been following your posts for a long time and they are very instructive.
I am waiting for an answer to this post. Thank you!
Hi na, You are welcome and thanks for watching and your kind comments! I do have a video on how to descale espresso machines with heat-exchange boilers: th-cam.com/video/yEGfyJkWSqU/w-d-xo.html The Profitec Pro 700 shown in this video is a dual boiler espresso machine. Most manufacturers recommend dual boiler machines be descaled by a professional machine technician. Those with proper skills can descale a dual boiler machine. It's more difficult and risky as dislodging scale in a neglected dual boiler machine during descaling may cause obstructions in other parts of the machine. It's also difficult to thoroughly rinse dual boilers after descaling. Best practice for dual boiler machines is to use water that does not cause scale in the first place. Here's a video featuring filtering products that maintain the mineral level needed for good espresso extractions but will not cause scale in a machine when used as directed: th-cam.com/video/1v9WSIXtpos/w-d-xo.html
Hope that helps!
Marc
Great video guys, I wonder if there are machines that are 100% stainless steel? I see come copper in this profitec, little unsure how it is to descale in long term
Hi JJ, Thanks for the comment. Copper pipe is used in most every prosumer level machine. Never seen a machine piped with stainless.
Marc
Could you include a little more information on the drain tray? What size hose (inner diameter) is needed to attach and any recommendations on type? I know it’s just a drain so a basic plastic or PVC should be fine. Thank you!
Good Evening. the cables you made for the solenoid valve for the test you do with the screwdriver can be explained to me. have you made the ground, the current and the third cable what are they? thank you very much
Amazing video keep going 🌹👍🏻
Hi hs, We will keep going! We have more than 1,300 coffee/espresso video on our channel. Thank you for the comment!
Marc
Great video! I'm curious about the brew boiler. It looks like it had a water level sensing probe much like the steam boiler. How are the water reaching the input to the water siphoning system to the brew group? That input was at the very top of the brew boiler while I think the water sensing probe was at least a couple of cm below the top of the boiler?
I am no expert but from what i understand the brew boiler is always full of water so it can build pressure with the pump. The steam does not require the pump to build pressure, just heat so it needs a head room to build the steam.
its a great machine other than the motor being under the boilers. that wasnt well thought out
Hi Sky, Thanks for the comment. Never had an issue with moisture on motor.
The Pro 700 is a great machine but another major determining factor in deciding on a machine is parts availability. In New Zealand there is only one supplier and he refuses to sell parts to individuals -also Profitec do not allow international shipping of there products effectively tying up supply check availability before you buy otherwise you may be screwed...
Hey Nick, Thanks for the comment on the Pro 700 - it is a great machine. Sorry parts are an issue in NZ - that's strange! Not the case for our customers in US and Canada.
Marc
Do I this correctly? the frame is not stainless???
That is correct
can you do a break down of the heating unit components?
Hi William, Here's a link to parts diagram including heating components: wiki.wholelattelove.com/images/6/6f/PRO_700_Parts_Diagram.pdf
Great video, can you do a video on what kind of water to put into an espresso machine?
Hi Andrey, We've done a few videos on source water for brewing espresso. I'll link to some info below. One might logically assume the purest water possible like distilled or RO treated would be best. Turns out that's not the case. You want some mineral content in the water (but not too much) otherwise taste tends to be very flat. I like to think of it like salt on food. A little helps bring out flavor and too much is unhealthy. For espresso machines high mineral levels cause scale to build up. For Prosumer level machines like the Profitec Pro 700 in this video which are plumbed in we recommend a high quality external in-line water filter like this one: www.wholelattelove.com/products/bwt-bestmax-premium-filter-package
The Bestmax premium filter is a multi-stage filter so removes particulate matter and chlorine. Its unique feature is removal of scale causing minerals which are then replaced with magnesium. Magnesium maintains flavor but does not cause scaling.
Specialty Coffee Association brew water standards: www.scaa.org/?page=resources&d=water-standards
Video: Should I Brew with Ultra-pure Water: th-cam.com/video/QceGglAWwcY/w-d-xo.html
Video: BWT Bestmax Filter Review: th-cam.com/video/yYilGVC-LaI/w-d-xo.html
hey guys i have the pro 500 with the 4 hole tip, is there a 2 hole tip from any other machine that will fit this??
Hi Mark. Is there a way you do the same video for the pro 600? Really appreciate it. Thank you
Hi DC, Thanks for the suggestion. Will see what I can do when things get back to normal.
Marc
It's profitec the same company as ECM?
How does it know when to fill the brew boiler?
Hi n, Thanks for the question. On initial startup the brew boiler fills. When making an espresso the pump pushes water into the brew boiler and from there out to the group. This way the brew boiler is always full of water.
Marc
A question about the stainless steel braided hose - what is the lining material on the inside? Is it rubber?
Braided stainless hose typically uses a PVC inner core. Not aware of any using rubber.
Thanks for the clarification! Was curious as I had no idea what it is.
Sir can you help me with the boiler information
I am finding small boiler for my college project
Hi TS, What kind of info do you need?
Won't the water from the brew boiler get colder as the pump creates pressure by pumping in cold water from the mains. I ask because the Izzo Alex Duetto IV has the water from the pump going through the steam boiler so when it hits the brew boiler there temp difference is lower than the direct method.
It looks like the in and out are both in the top of the boiler in close proximity. I would be disappointed to see a temp drop while brewing as I am buying this machine to get stable brew temp and not have to flush so much...
Hi Esben, When you brew a shot the refill water will cool the boiler momentarily. But it recovers very quickly. Remember you are only using about 2oz/60ml of water. The boiler and other components have a large thermal mass which helps to heat that water and stabilize temperature. And, with PID control the heating coils within the boiler activate in short burst to quickly get back to set temperature. So long as the machine is fully warmed up the boiler will be back to PID set temp before you can grind, tamp and load for the next shot. As you mention, there are machines which use a heat-exchanger in the steam boiler to pre-heat fill water for the brew boiler. Another machine like that is the Expobar Brewtus. This works well but you do run the risk of overheating the brew boiler if doing many shots back to back. It's easier, faster and more accurate to heat a brew boiler with PID and arrive at preset temperature than it is to cool it down if it's overheated.
plss send me one nice machine for my home it is very nice machine
Sure Kirstijan, Checks in the mail right?