Something I always think about in regards to Finn's parents is that Minerva made Finn a hero, with her compassion and desire to help others whatever the cost, but Martin made Finn a survivor, someone who would always come out the other side regardless of the odds
Martin also gave Finn a way with words. I remember watching or reading something about how Finn has a silver tongue and can sometimes manipulate people. Like how he talked to Neptr after they found him while looking for robot parts to use against Flame Princess.
In short, despite being absent for most of the duration of his life, Finn is still blessed by his parents thru their genes. Great writing for a kids show! This why I love Adventure Time so much!
F for Fern, his story is so freaking depressing, imagine being trapped in an object every day by another version of yourself and getting used. then having a parasite make you a body and control you, seeing your other version of yourself be happy while you struggle to find an identity, fern is finn, they had the same journey, fought the same enemies till he got turned into a sword, suffering, alone, having no control of himself, with no one to talk to, no one to help, not knowing who he even is anymore.
Fern’s story is truly sad but it’s shown that when fern was inside of the Finn sword, before the demon came in, he was actually happy going on adventures with Finn. They were able to talk and understood each other.
@@Starlisc okay so marcy helped the last humans get off of OOO to an island for saftey . Marcy was unable to come with them due to fighting with the vampire king and had no way to contact the humans to see if they were okay or not I’m saying that when marcy first saw Finn the human she knew that they successfully made it to the island and are still thriving to that day. But probably didn’t know why finn was on OOO
Then why didn’t Marcy told Finn that there was more of his kind? PB didn’t know about Finn’s kind because she’s very bad at being smart and that’s a fact.
well, lets say someone forgets everything forever, they are no longer the same person. You could argue that the previous person died. Finns father lost himself, or died, saving Finn.
I honestly never even considered the fact that Shermy and Beth found a brand new Finn sword?!? Like, that means Finn's consciousness technically still exists 1000+ years later... 😱
And whats more shocking is that Finn might actually be alive inside the Finn sword,we only need Shermy to get inside it since hes a reincarnation of Finn
Smokes blunt. We spent a great portion of human history loving dogs and when all humanity was pushed to near extension.. a dog family adopts a human and shows love.
Someone also mentioned that the rainacorn dog war was because during WW3/ The mushroom war in Ooo, the Koreans had discovered a portal with rainacorns and utilized them as man-eating bioweapons in the war, and the dogs who have been loved by humanity decided to avenge them by waging war with the rainacorns.
As a child of adoption, I found it comforting to see that despite knowing the parents/life finn could have had, he treasured the one he obtained and I don’t think there was ever a moment where they made him feel like one could only have one set of parents.
I get that finns life could've been... okay. But clearly his father doesn't care for him too much eventually, although he obviously cares. He isn't the best person and I doubt he'd make the best person. As for his mom... well she's okay and might even have made finns dad a better person. But you can't really deny that finns situation was better than whatever would've happened on that island. Especially considering finn can't leave that island if finn never comes to the island with news that land is safe. Now here's my personal view on such matters read at your own discretion. I only say it so that you have a new view point to consider I was adopted and to be honest I never understood people who would cry if they found out they were adopted nor people who constantly wondered what life could've been like if that hadn't happened. Almost everyone who's adopted is adopted for a reason, usually because life would be better for them. So it isn't exactly logical to wonder about and hope for what could have been if that life would ultimately be worse. I was adopted as a baby because my mother was a single drug addicted... you know "pleasurer" my two older brothers because they were abused as babies, and my youngest one because he was too underdeveloped and premature and no one cared enough to put in the extra effort.
@@Vmml_Tbqfunyy back then he was actually dedicated to his family and was changing his life. The trauma after losing his son damaged his brain, turning him into the douchebag he is today
Something you forgot Remember the TreeTrunks ep with her exes and past life? There she had a pirate crew, who we see in a drawing/thumbnail that they saved Martens after the incident with Finn as a baby :D
Fun fact: The whole Green Knight story is a giant reference to the poem "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight." It was one of my favorite pieces to read in college When I was floored when they referenced it here.
Considering he saw Golb while he was leaving the world, it’s likely that after he comes out of the pillow fort, that’s the exact moment Golb destroyed pillow world and Finn just narrowly escaped it. This would imply that his entire family in pillow world and pillow world itself is gone
It’s not official but it’s 99% possible that one of Finn’s ancestors is one of the people on the boat sailing to new land that Marciline saves when she fights the vampire king. I think it’s the kid Marciline befriends because he wears a similar hat to Finn.
@@sillygoose42069 Yeah the scene where he appears looks like hes in his 30s,but then again we dont really know the exact year Obsidian took place,maybe 2 decades after the war
and Steven was 12-13 when shit happened but all that piled up when he turned 16- both had really messed up childhood but at least Finn had closure most of the time and had his mind straight even everything is messed up. Like.. knowing something is messed up and is messing you up then dealing with it really helps-
@@rencecs6720 like Jake said in one episode about something: When he died his essence will spread across the universe. He will be everywhere. Maybe what Jake said was true. Billy died and his essence spread across the universe making him aware of many things, including the whereabouts of Finns dad.
@@AlexMcGillvrey 1: Well, Maybe the Cosmic Crime Martin did was to try to stole the Enchiridium Gems like the Lich and Billy fighted him (Thats just a Theory) 2: she dont know shit about humans because she never meet them
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 But since PB is supposed to be highly smart, she should know at least some history about Finn's kind. Because that's what a real smart person would do.
@@AlexMcGillvrey on the bmo distant lands episode when bmp crashes on ooo next to the treehouse you can see Finn and Jake and it looks like Finn is maybe 7 or 8 so that might be how long.
@@AlexMcGillvrey ya but the treehouse is close to the candy kingdom and Finn and jake were living in it at the time so theres a chance they couldve met.
The artwork for the episode, I think showed Martin being rescued by a bunch of sailors, he head was also bandaged up, so it’s implied that he incurred head trauma. Throughout the series, remnants of good guy Martin could be seen, but it was like seeing him through a warped funhouse mirror.
I do realize that both of Finn's parents, even if they aren't there for him Martin is reckless and always on the run. Finn gets his sense of adventure Minerva is kind and caring to the point of being a tad restricting. Finn gets her need to help and caringness
Not really. Her FAMILY tree would be short. If you mean her past lives, that would be something, but her family tree is just Mother Gum > Bubblegum/Neddy > Aunt Lolly/Gumbald/Chicle/The Candy Citizens
pretty sure he had just had a pillow dmt trip. you forget most of what happens when you trip and can live entire lifetimes in a different reality in the span of 15 minutes. adventure time is just a crazy show
@@lichguard jock strap are used in sports where a cup is needed to protect the gentitals and thongs are worn by woman. So either Derek is a muscular cross dresser, transvestite, or he has had companionship with females. Either way he seems like an interesting person.
This brought tears to my eyes. This just reminds me the love I have for Adventure Time and the stories that kept me smiling throughout my teens. I needed this
Yknow it’s kinda sad that no one will ever know the good thing that Martin did in attempting to sacrifice himself for his sons sake, and now his wife and son see him as a humongous jerk.
Lets say someone forgets everything forever, they are no longer the same person. You could argue that the previous person died. Finns father lost himself, or died, saving Finn.
@@S.S.1993 ? What? When? I have a bad memory... but even if that is the case, Finn's father lost his wife, son, and home, I wouldn't be surprised if he lost himself then too.
@@S.S.1993 Oh, ok thx. But also, even if he was saved from the dangers in the physical realm, he still may have lost himself to the dangers in the mental realm (as in he got traumatised from losing his wife, home, and child)
I like Uncivilized Eli's analysis on Martin's brain better, where he does remember the past and sees it as a huge mistake. I think it was the Story vs Reality video from The Visitor and The Islands miniseries.
Man I hope we see together again short and new girlfriend it is huntress wizard and some marrying her or having a child I believe child will name be fern to remember the counterpart itself
I also hope that special explains how did Billy knew Finn’s dad, the reason why PB unusually cares for Finn so much, and Goliad and Stormo getting out of their stupid “eternal” duel with Goliad being redeemed.
@@AlexMcGillvrey I think the reason why PB cares so much about Finn is that she cant replace him or make a brand new Finn,in the episode where they were stuck on a hole that had wierd mutated things PB knocked out Finn and made a deal with James,later on she explains why
Kind of messed up that Finn is the only one who doesnt end up with someone.....I mean, a lot of the early show was him crushing on different princesses.
I’m somewhat against the idea that Martin’s dickishness and lack of care for his son is a result of memory loss or brain damage. I think it’s much deeper to consider Martin’s behavior as a result of extreme guilt and regret. Causing him to repress the pain and memory of leaving Finn and Minerva. Going into this state of fear and wanting to run from the past would explain why he decided to go to space. And I have an idea for how that happened too. In the episode Ring of Fire, Tree Trunks recounts her adventurous life where we see her string of marriages and various careers. One of which was being a pirate captain of the ship “La Femme De La Mer” or “Woman of the Sea” in French. On her ship, she’s accompanied by her quartermaster named Mr. Faidutti. In the storyboard’s title card for the episode “Min and Marty” (not the actual title card used), there’s a depiction of Martin on board a large ship, bleeding from his head, with none other than Mr. Faidutti holding his fingers out to check for a concussion. Now bare with me here. We have to assume that Tree Trunks was captain of the ship at the time when Martin was rescued for what happens next to make sense. In the episode “High Strangeness”, it’s established that Tree Trunks has hybrid-alien children that come to visit her every few years. After Martin fought the Gaurdian, sustaining some kind of head injury, he was rescued by Tree Trunk’s pirate crew on board Le Femme De La Mer. Coincidentally, this was at the same time that her alien children came to visit her. Suffering deep pain and regret for abandoning Finn at sea, likely to die, and Minerva on the island without her child, Martin chose to run away from his past and get as far away from the islands as possible. That’s when he accompanied Tree Trunk’s alien children into space where he began his life as a cosmic criminal. After that it’s not clear what he did. Though we do know that a few years later, around the time Finn was five or so, Martin was in another solar system, (or even galaxy), onboard the galactic space colony, “The Drift”. This is where he took up the name “Mr. M” as established in the Distant Lands special “BMO”, and began his life as a space criminal by swindling the denizens of The Drift and scavenging it for parts alongside the former human Hugo. And you know the rest. Martin’s antics got out of hand and Billy, yes Billy, caught him and sent him to the Citadel. I’m hypothesizing this since Billy was the one who knew Martin was being kept in the Citadel, (despite it being in space somewhere) and told Finn after his death. I could go on and on about all the Martin appearances we see in Adventure Time and the deep psyche of this swindling con man, but it was never officially established how Martin got into space and I figured I’d share my two cents about it.
@@alexjewett7455 still it's up to the creators of the show to decide whether or not it was all in Finn's head or it did happened and Finn pretends that it didn't.
took me to make a horrible decision in my own life that affected every one of my relatives in an irreversible way to relate to Martin. I've pushed everyone away just the same because I feel like the further away i stay, the less of a chance I have to harm anyone I love. Moreover, In contrast to myself, Martin has Obviously stepped on more toes since the old lady and her tiger since he was in cosmic jail. this leads me to believe that Martin was very likely to be on the run yet again and doing his best to not involve Finn in order to keep him safe which would 100% makes sense that he chose to go with the comet. Martin is a good person who is human and prone to mistakes and forced to live a life in many gray areas. He is the prime example for alcoholics and addicts who genuinely believe they dont deserve better.
Hey #NerdWire, I've other interesting ideas for an Craig of the Creek video, a video talking/explaining about all the know locations at The Creek we've seen so far.
I stopped watching adventure time around when the first few seasons were out cause I unfortunately grew up, but man I missed so much. I had no idea the story expanded WAY far out and I’m considering revisiting the series 👌🏻
I just realized it, but Martin went nuts even without being cursed by the Ice King's Crown. It makes you wonder if Simon would've been able to keep it together even if the crown left him with his sanity for the next thousand years.
You know, the one thing I don't like about adventure time is how finn never knew his father isn't a bad guy... OK, *wasn't* a bad guy His story was legit about the raft and tiger
I surprised finn never continued his bloodline like you would think a great warrior/adventure would want to continue his bloodline or take a apprentice on atleast.
Not going to lie the founder's island or more specifically Minerva (Finn's mum) always tears me up Not sure how you properly spell his mum's name but I think that's how it is
It's weird thinking about what Finn would be like during the timeline of Adventure Time if he actually stayed on founder's island instead of getting lost in the forest in Ooo.
I wish I can see Finn the Human again. Make sure Martin and Minerva reunite again. Then we would see Finn and his family together again. I want to see more Finn and Jake. Make it after the Gum War and show us more of what has Finn and Jake and the others have been doing after the Gum War. Have the humans from the islands mini series interacting with people of Ooo like the Candy people.
I’ve always liked the fact that Finn always saw Joshua and Margret as his real parents, the ones who actually raised him. Their relationship makes me so happy
1. It’d be a HUGE coincidence but maybe his dog parents just happened to give him the same name as his human parents. According to that one Hunson Abadeer book, that’s what happened 2. iirc the teddy bear that was on the raft w/ Baby Finn had a tag w/ his name on it. idk how it would’ve happened but maybe his first hat was made from that bear and Joshua and Margaret saw the tag. Again, not 100% sure on this
I just feel extremely sad that Minerva never knew the true reason why martin left the island. It makes me want to imagine an iteration where they were never separated in the first place or they found out the true reason after the show. :'(
My head cannons for Martin's change: He became such a drastic man because he couldn't remember what he forgot. Similar to answering a math quiz and not knowing what you don't know kind of frustration but more, since it involves his life. To not remember his son, his wife or the life he led before. Maybe he remembered his con ways because of the familiarity and embraced it, fully. I think internally he has an idea of doing something drastic to save his son, but i guess that changed to doing something drastic to save *himself*. I guess he also thought of finn as himself, like part of himself for his thought process to go in that direction What breaks my heart the most is a man turning to good just to return to bad but much much worse when he did something praiseworthy. Maybe it's the potential he had but my heart really breaks from it. Martin is a heartbreaking character for his past but just the biggest asshole in AT, he's not even morally gray lmao
That’s what I think I think for most of his life if martians parents were like him being con artist he just felt it was natural as he did it for so long and met his wife and son for a year he probably just remember what he used to do and do that and when he sees this he tries to remember but can’t fully but feels happiness from and just goes along with it but it hurts him Because his mind reminds him they are ones who got him like this and just leaves so that he doesn’t do something he is gonna regret but wants finn to join him so they both can start a new path where they don’t have to be on earth
Me in 2011-2012: oh cool! A show about a human boy and a talking magical dog that goes on whacky adventures! Me, nearly a decade later: why am I crying?
I think that Martin in the BMO special is the reason why he was in The Crystal Citadel,Because he tried to destroy a whole planet and the BMO special is what happened in the past before BMO met Finn and Jake
I like to think that Martin didn't lose his memories, rather he was so guilt driven and distraught over losing his son, his wife, and his home that he decided he would rather burn every bridge and lose his past than confront it. I think the whole idea that it was amnesia or brain damage really cheapens the character of Martin.
I love how videos Id be interested in end up coming out when I just get back into the topic of said video. Long story short I’ve just begun rewatching the series of adventure time!
I never saw Grass Finn as evil, just a combination of misguided and bad luck. Heck even the grass demon is a creature in a bind. It's the spirit of a weapon made by a jerk that, up until it was fused with the fin sword, had been a loyal if clingy weapon to Finn.
Something I always think about in regards to Finn's parents is that Minerva made Finn a hero, with her compassion and desire to help others whatever the cost, but Martin made Finn a survivor, someone who would always come out the other side regardless of the odds
Martin also gave Finn a way with words. I remember watching or reading something about how Finn has a silver tongue and can sometimes manipulate people. Like how he talked to Neptr after they found him while looking for robot parts to use against Flame Princess.
In short, despite being absent for most of the duration of his life, Finn is still blessed by his parents thru their genes. Great writing for a kids show! This why I love Adventure Time so much!
the series stated finn was a hero already in his first life that came as a blue reincarnation of the catalyst comet
I think that martin and Minerva share many of these traits. Finn's more chaotic or dysfunctional moments I think were his dad showing thru tho
Jake and Jake's parents Joshua and Margaret did that, not Finn's parents.
I'm actually sad that finn never got to witness how his father loved, protected and actually tried to change for good to raise his son
fuck why did you have to say this
Too bad you can only remember memories after 2 and up
@@regularhooman1568 i don’t think Id wanna remember being born
Or an over controlling mother
maybe finn will come across an old baby remembrance thing in a dungeon that’ll show that he was a good father
F for Fern, his story is so freaking depressing, imagine being trapped in an object every day by another version of yourself and getting used. then having a parasite make you a body and control you, seeing your other version of yourself be happy while you struggle to find an identity, fern is finn, they had the same journey, fought the same enemies till he got turned into a sword, suffering, alone, having no control of himself, with no one to talk to, no one to help, not knowing who he even is anymore.
she only has the mother gum and neddy (and gumbald checklay and her aunt [cant remember her name]
I’m sure this version hated Prismo too.
Dude thank you fern still fucks with my head
Or even F the sword
Fern’s story is truly sad but it’s shown that when fern was inside of the Finn sword, before the demon came in, he was actually happy going on adventures with Finn. They were able to talk and understood each other.
When Marcy first met Finn and realized he was human she must have been like “oh nice they made it”
awe, I never thought about that, but yeah! That's kinda cute ngl
Aweee, yeah! Explains how they're friends lol
Im confused
@@Starlisc okay so marcy helped the last humans get off of OOO to an island for saftey . Marcy was unable to come with them due to fighting with the vampire king and had no way to contact the humans to see if they were okay or not
I’m saying that when marcy first saw Finn the human she knew that they successfully made it to the island and are still thriving to that day. But probably didn’t know why finn was on OOO
Then why didn’t Marcy told Finn that there was more of his kind? PB didn’t know about Finn’s kind because she’s very bad at being smart and that’s a fact.
I kinda hate how Martin went from being a badass and cool dad to one of the worst dads in adventure time,hes by far more worse than Marcelines dad
well, lets say someone forgets everything forever, they are no longer the same person. You could argue that the previous person died. Finns father lost himself, or died, saving Finn.
But marceline dad ate her Fries
Kirby Fazendo Um Moonwalk he ate some 2 dollar cold fries, that’s not as bad as tearing youre sons arm off
@@DAME993 You're right. It's worse
@@DAME993 no eating her fries are worse
I honestly never even considered the fact that Shermy and Beth found a brand new Finn sword?!? Like, that means Finn's consciousness technically still exists 1000+ years later... 😱
WOAH
Woah!!!!
I actually haven't thinked like that!!
I kinda forgot about the finn sword
And whats more shocking is that Finn might actually be alive inside the Finn sword,we only need Shermy to get inside it since hes a reincarnation of Finn
does this mean he can never be reincarnated???
Smokes blunt.
We spent a great portion of human history loving dogs and when all humanity was pushed to near extension.. a dog family adopts a human and shows love.
That shows that humanity and dogs were always meant to be friends and family.
Someone also mentioned that the rainacorn dog war was because during WW3/ The mushroom war in Ooo, the Koreans had discovered a portal with rainacorns and utilized them as man-eating bioweapons in the war, and the dogs who have been loved by humanity decided to avenge them by waging war with the rainacorns.
Lol exactly 😂
I always was bummed out Finn actually had great parents who he never met
(I know I know technically he did but you know what I mean)
As a child of adoption, I found it comforting to see that despite knowing the parents/life finn could have had, he treasured the one he obtained and I don’t think there was ever a moment where they made him feel like one could only have one set of parents.
I get that finns life could've been... okay. But clearly his father doesn't care for him too much eventually, although he obviously cares. He isn't the best person and I doubt he'd make the best person. As for his mom... well she's okay and might even have made finns dad a better person. But you can't really deny that finns situation was better than whatever would've happened on that island. Especially considering finn can't leave that island if finn never comes to the island with news that land is safe.
Now here's my personal view on such matters read at your own discretion. I only say it so that you have a new view point to consider
I was adopted and to be honest I never understood people who would cry if they found out they were adopted nor people who constantly wondered what life could've been like if that hadn't happened. Almost everyone who's adopted is adopted for a reason, usually because life would be better for them. So it isn't exactly logical to wonder about and hope for what could have been if that life would ultimately be worse. I was adopted as a baby because my mother was a single drug addicted... you know "pleasurer" my two older brothers because they were abused as babies, and my youngest one because he was too underdeveloped and premature and no one cared enough to put in the extra effort.
@@Vmml_Tbqfunyy back then he was actually dedicated to his family and was changing his life. The trauma after losing his son damaged his brain, turning him into the douchebag he is today
@@azsazazsa he was however he still wasn't the greatest guy. Nowhere near as much as joshua and margaret
@@Vmml_Tbqfunyy He was actually a good dad and tried to keep Finn safe, when he got knocked out he got brain damage and turned into a wad.
Something you forgot
Remember the TreeTrunks ep with her exes and past life? There she had a pirate crew, who we see in a drawing/thumbnail that they saved Martens after the incident with Finn as a baby :D
everything is somehow connected lol
Fun fact: The whole Green Knight story is a giant reference to the poem "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight." It was one of my favorite pieces to read in college When I was floored when they referenced it here.
Funnily enough I just watched OSP's video on King Arthur and his knights and it makes so much sense
Thank you! I need to read this now!
I remember reading that in middle school! 👍
Is it Filipino cause I see Gawain which is do here in the philliphines
@@Mr_Zamn its an old medieval poem about a knight of King Arthur. Written in the late 14th century.
So Finn has no bloodline legacy in oo, but he theoretically has one in a pillowverse that may or may not exist.
That's actually kinda sad. He should get a lady to fall in love again.
Considering he saw Golb while he was leaving the world, it’s likely that after he comes out of the pillow fort, that’s the exact moment Golb destroyed pillow world and Finn just narrowly escaped it. This would imply that his entire family in pillow world and pillow world itself is gone
Its Ooo
Technically he reincarnate everytime he dies so his line will continue for sure
@@ItsLynch1 how does that work? The episode appeared once and was never mentioned again
It’s not official but it’s 99% possible that one of Finn’s ancestors is one of the people on the boat sailing to new land that Marciline saves when she fights the vampire king. I think it’s the kid Marciline befriends because he wears a similar hat to Finn.
What episode is that?
@@MrMis1osm S7E7: Everything Stays
@@latentspace thanks
Yeah you can connect it when marceline helped then to a later episode of Susan's past where they tell their history and ended up going to an island.
@@owlicous5535 well they do sound high pitched but child pitched so its hard to tell
It's sad that Finn never truly knew what his dad sacrificed for him
That is a lot of children for a 17 year old
He was 18 in the last season
@@Rhino-Prime nah he was 17
@@sillygoose42069 Yeah the scene where he appears looks like hes in his 30s,but then again we dont really know the exact year Obsidian took place,maybe 2 decades after the war
@@dusktomidnight7207 Wasnt there an episode on his 18th birthday??? the one where fern sneaks in the gumball family using a horse?
and Steven was 12-13 when shit happened but all that piled up when he turned 16- both had really messed up childhood but at least Finn had closure most of the time and had his mind straight even everything is messed up. Like.. knowing something is messed up and is messing you up then dealing with it really helps-
Despite being a 12-17 year old, Finn is actually super mature being able to face his childhood trauma and absent parents quite well.
Pretty sure Martin ended up in the citadel because he got blamed for killing everyone on the rift
I should’ve known that guy in the suit was Martin.
Or maybe Princess Bubblegum had something to do with it. And the more important question is, how did Billy knew Finn’s dad?
Yeah, surprised that wasn't mentioned
@@AlexMcGillvrey Oh wow,thats actually something I would like to know aswell. like they did not give any backstory of billy meeting Finn's dad at all
@@rencecs6720 like Jake said in one episode about something: When he died his essence will spread across the universe. He will be everywhere. Maybe what Jake said was true. Billy died and his essence spread across the universe making him aware of many things, including the whereabouts of Finns dad.
Soo, no one is gonna mention how Finn reproduced with a pillow?
He pulled a Jay from big mouth
How about thinking about more important questions like how did Billy knew Finn’s dad and why Princess Bubblegum doesn’t know shit about humans.
He banged a pillow
@@AlexMcGillvrey 1: Well, Maybe the Cosmic Crime Martin did was to try to stole the Enchiridium Gems like the Lich and Billy fighted him (Thats just a Theory)
2: she dont know shit about humans because she never meet them
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 But since PB is supposed to be highly smart, she should know at least some history about Finn's kind. Because that's what a real smart person would do.
*When I saw that flashback where an orphaned and crying Finn gets adopted by Jake's parents that was so heartwarming I almost cry at this (;__;)*
Has PB ever met Finn as a baby? We don’t even know how long Princess Bubblegum has known Finn and unusually cares about him so much.
@@AlexMcGillvrey on the bmo distant lands episode when bmp crashes on ooo next to the treehouse you can see Finn and Jake and it looks like Finn is maybe 7 or 8 so that might be how long.
@@iforgotoputausername But was PB in that episode? No she was not.
@@AlexMcGillvrey ya but the treehouse is close to the candy kingdom and Finn and jake were living in it at the time so theres a chance they couldve met.
The artwork for the episode, I think showed Martin being rescued by a bunch of sailors, he head was also bandaged up, so it’s implied that he incurred head trauma.
Throughout the series, remnants of good guy Martin could be seen, but it was like seeing him through a warped funhouse mirror.
I do realize that both of Finn's parents, even if they aren't there for him
Martin is reckless and always on the run. Finn gets his sense of adventure
Minerva is kind and caring to the point of being a tad restricting. Finn gets her need to help and caringness
What do you think would happen if his pillow kids/grandkids somehow came over to his world
Insanity, is what. Just trying to piece together the time differential is.... Muddy, in my opinion.
Flame Princess would probably burn them and questions Finn
it would be cool to see finn's kids go to ooO
@@estebangutierrez160 they're not dating anymore
pillow world was most likely destroyed by golb
I cried when adventure time ended. And I was like HOLY SHIT. When they made distant lands
Then cry again?
Yeah and they ended in 4 episodes
Why did they even end it lol
Do Princess Bubblegum's Family Tree, that'd a good one to do and she probably have the most mess up of the bunch.
Not really. Her FAMILY tree would be short. If you mean her past lives, that would be something, but her family tree is just
Mother Gum > Bubblegum/Neddy > Aunt Lolly/Gumbald/Chicle/The Candy Citizens
Especially for someone who sucks at being smart, rules as a Princess instead as a queen, and is kind in a creepy pedo-like way.
@Ethan Kellerman oh I forgot about goliad. I’m not sure about stormo since he was made with finn’s dna though.
@@azsazazsa finn's hair and sugar. Where do you think the sugar comes from?
If they cannot do that. Why not all of finn's love interests
Golb probabably ate(destroyed) the pillow dimension. That's why Finn can't remember that life.
pretty sure he had just had a pillow dmt trip. you forget most of what happens when you trip and can live entire lifetimes in a different reality in the span of 15 minutes. adventure time is just a crazy show
Never thought of that but that makes a lot of since and it honestly extremely dark but it’s not like it’s something adventure never played with before
Just saying a jockstrap doesn’t go in the crack, that’s what a thong is
You sound like you have experience with both🤔
@@lichguard yeah and?
@@lichguard That just means he has experience with sports and women lol.
@@lichguard jock strap are used in sports where a cup is needed to protect the gentitals and thongs are worn by woman. So either Derek is a muscular cross dresser, transvestite, or he has had companionship with females. Either way he seems like an interesting person.
@@williambigbills-9665 transvestite isn’t the word i think you’re looking for because you just repeated yourself
I had been waiting for this
Babybabyvaby
um ok
I just thought this in my head as I found the video. Then it becomes the first comment I see.. That's wild
@@acetrainertaphat2297 i
Too think that BMO meets Finn’s dad like right before he meets Finn, small universe
Finn's mom is like mr house in fallout new vegas and the island is like the new vegas strip
YES
Aww that's cute, the jockstrap is actually the least up the butt kind of underwear. It really says his dad is bottom! A galactic bottom!
This brought tears to my eyes. This just reminds me the love I have for Adventure Time and the stories that kept me smiling throughout my teens. I needed this
Martin is a severely underrated character.
I love your profile pic
finn's parents' relationship is so beautifully tragic :(
Yknow it’s kinda sad that no one will ever know the good thing that Martin did in attempting to sacrifice himself for his sons sake, and now his wife and son see him as a humongous jerk.
Fin never tells his mom that Martin is still alive.
Lets say someone forgets everything forever, they are no longer the same person. You could argue that the previous person died. Finns father lost himself, or died, saving Finn.
he was rescued by tree trunks crew after she left
@@S.S.1993 ? What? When? I have a bad memory... but even if that is the case, Finn's father lost his wife, son, and home, I wouldn't be surprised if he lost himself then too.
@@happy_amoeba i think it was a thumbnail for an episode
@@S.S.1993 Oh, ok thx. But also, even if he was saved from the dangers in the physical realm, he still may have lost himself to the dangers in the mental realm (as in he got traumatised from losing his wife, home, and child)
I like Uncivilized Eli's analysis on Martin's brain better, where he does remember the past and sees it as a huge mistake. I think it was the Story vs Reality video from The Visitor and The Islands miniseries.
I would say he is mentally blocking it. He slightly remembers but the more he does the more he regrets
I miss Adventure Time
I don’t, that show tries way too hard to be unique.
Me too
@@AlexMcGillvrey then why are you even here
@@AlexMcGillvrey a shame then. I do. I'm rewatching the old eps right now.
@@domeen0gt895 Because I wanted to love this show, but it’s just too weird for me.
Damn I litterally crying how minerva feels
9:21 ahhh the feels
I still can't get over how tragic it is that the Campbell-Mertens family will never fully know what happened.
Based on some official art it’s theorized that fin’s dad had suffered from brain damage at some point, and this is why he’s so different.
So in the end no one knew how much love and care Martin had for his wife and his son
Finn's family tree is certainly interesting!
Because he banged a pillow
@@estebangutierrez160 when there's a will there's a way
@@dmolegend1699 once you go human you never go back, am I right Lads or am I right Lads?
@@estebangutierrez160 Limpy pillow puffer or Rock hard human nut ejector, its your pick
@@estebangutierrez160 You are right lad!
I find it to be one of the weirdest things that some people ship Fin and Fern.
Do not underestimate a fans mind
Fandoms have some crazy ships. I've seen worse
@@ManiacalBlueberry ikr...have you seen gravity falls? They ship brother and sister...
You can even see ships of mom and son
People are so screwed up
@@laurenbi i have also seen fanart with finn and his dad...."together"
7:46 Martin didn’t trap BMO that was just a coincidence, and they aren’t on a planet they’re on a big space ship thing that has pods.
Man I hope we see together again short and new girlfriend it is huntress wizard and some marrying her or having a child I believe child will name be fern to remember the counterpart itself
I also hope that special explains how did Billy knew Finn’s dad, the reason why PB unusually cares for Finn so much, and Goliad and Stormo getting out of their stupid “eternal” duel with Goliad being redeemed.
What
@@AlexMcGillvrey I think the reason why PB cares so much about Finn is that she cant replace him or make a brand new Finn,in the episode where they were stuck on a hole that had wierd mutated things PB knocked out Finn and made a deal with James,later on she explains why
@@rencecs6720 She she does have sick feelings towards him.
Haven’t watched the video yet but my man Stormo better be on here
Edit: eyyyyyyyyy I’m glad y’all didn’t forget our bros sacrifice
As a guy who wears jockstraps I can confirm that it doesn't actually touch the crack
Thongs on the other hand toycj JUST the crack
Old Finn in the pillow world was the same as old Finn in the real world but with a metal arm, but it's the same form of arm, I think that was cool
I loved the pillow episode but him forgetting it was sad :(
This man needs a character analysis
He's been through so much
Also he needs therapy
But this is kinda close
Kind of messed up that Finn is the only one who doesnt end up with someone.....I mean, a lot of the early show was him crushing on different princesses.
I’m somewhat against the idea that Martin’s dickishness and lack of care for his son is a result of memory loss or brain damage. I think it’s much deeper to consider Martin’s behavior as a result of extreme guilt and regret. Causing him to repress the pain and memory of leaving Finn and Minerva. Going into this state of fear and wanting to run from the past would explain why he decided to go to space. And I have an idea for how that happened too.
In the episode Ring of Fire, Tree Trunks recounts her adventurous life where we see her string of marriages and various careers. One of which was being a pirate captain of the ship “La Femme De La Mer” or “Woman of the Sea” in French. On her ship, she’s accompanied by her quartermaster named Mr. Faidutti.
In the storyboard’s title card for the episode “Min and Marty” (not the actual title card used), there’s a depiction of Martin on board a large ship, bleeding from his head, with none other than Mr. Faidutti holding his fingers out to check for a concussion. Now bare with me here.
We have to assume that Tree Trunks was captain of the ship at the time when Martin was rescued for what happens next to make sense.
In the episode “High Strangeness”, it’s established that Tree Trunks has hybrid-alien children that come to visit her every few years.
After Martin fought the Gaurdian, sustaining some kind of head injury, he was rescued by Tree Trunk’s pirate crew on board Le Femme De La Mer. Coincidentally, this was at the same time that her alien children came to visit her. Suffering deep pain and regret for abandoning Finn at sea, likely to die, and Minerva on the island without her child, Martin chose to run away from his past and get as far away from the islands as possible. That’s when he accompanied Tree Trunk’s alien children into space where he began his life as a cosmic criminal.
After that it’s not clear what he did. Though we do know that a few years later, around the time Finn was five or so, Martin was in another solar system, (or even galaxy), onboard the galactic space colony, “The Drift”. This is where he took up the name “Mr. M” as established in the Distant Lands special “BMO”, and began his life as a space criminal by swindling the denizens of The Drift and scavenging it for parts alongside the former human Hugo.
And you know the rest. Martin’s antics got out of hand and Billy, yes Billy, caught him and sent him to the Citadel. I’m hypothesizing this since Billy was the one who knew Martin was being kept in the Citadel, (despite it being in space somewhere) and told Finn after his death. I could go on and on about all the Martin appearances we see in Adventure Time and the deep psyche of this swindling con man, but it was never officially established how Martin got into space and I figured I’d share my two cents about it.
I'm like 90% sure the pillow world thing never actually happened.
Of course it never happened, if was all in Finn's head.
@@estebangutierrez160 I know, but she's acting like it actually happened.
@@alexjewett7455 still it's up to the creators of the show to decide whether or not it was all in Finn's head or it did happened and Finn pretends that it didn't.
One theory is that it’s an alternate dimension and that golb destroyed it and wiped out Finns memory of it
I love how Finn just casually bounces off of Golb's tongue.
took me to make a horrible decision in my own life that affected every one of my relatives in an irreversible way to relate to Martin. I've pushed everyone away just the same because I feel like the further away i stay, the less of a chance I have to harm anyone I love. Moreover, In contrast to myself, Martin has Obviously stepped on more toes since the old lady and her tiger since he was in cosmic jail. this leads me to believe that Martin was very likely to be on the run yet again and doing his best to not involve Finn in order to keep him safe which would 100% makes sense that he chose to go with the comet. Martin is a good person who is human and prone to mistakes and forced to live a life in many gray areas. He is the prime example for alcoholics and addicts who genuinely believe they dont deserve better.
Hey #NerdWire, I've other interesting ideas for an Craig of the Creek video, a video talking/explaining about all the know locations at The Creek we've seen so far.
I still can't get over Martin jumping through a window with a newborn, damn.
Oh man this series is one of the most well thought out cartoon ever
I stopped watching adventure time around when the first few seasons were out cause I unfortunately grew up, but man I missed so much. I had no idea the story expanded WAY far out and I’m considering revisiting the series 👌🏻
Do it.
I love how they added Fern too, wholesome
What time is it?
Feels Time!! 😭😭😭
I just realized it, but Martin went nuts even without being cursed by the Ice King's Crown. It makes you wonder if Simon would've been able to keep it together even if the crown left him with his sanity for the next thousand years.
You know, the one thing I don't like about adventure time is how finn never knew his father isn't a bad guy...
OK, *wasn't* a bad guy
His story was legit about the raft and tiger
I surprised finn never continued his bloodline like you would think a great warrior/adventure would want to continue his bloodline or take a apprentice on atleast.
Not going to lie the founder's island or more specifically Minerva (Finn's mum) always tears me up
Not sure how you properly spell his mum's name but I think that's how it is
Is it weird that almost half of this vid was about Fin’s human father?
Man, I wish Finn hooked up with HW like how Bonnie and Marcy did.
HW? Who is that?
@@MrBjornibjorn Huntress wizard probably
Im early to a good youtube video for once in my 23 years of living.
Ok this video made me very sad
Yeah since it's been awhile I forgot how Adventure time can hit the emotions.
I lived only 14 years and byfar this is the best video
NerdWire bringing us the content we need. 🤘🏻🔥
It's weird thinking about what Finn would be like during the timeline of Adventure Time if he actually stayed on founder's island instead of getting lost in the forest in Ooo.
I love how Finn got his kindness and caring nature from his mom and his survivability and grit from his dad
I wish I can see Finn the Human again. Make sure Martin and Minerva reunite again. Then we would see Finn and his family together again.
I want to see more Finn and Jake. Make it after the Gum War and show us more of what has Finn and Jake and the others have been doing after the Gum War. Have the humans from the islands mini series interacting with people of Ooo like the Candy people.
What an informative video. I like it.
14:33 WAIT I DIDN'T KNOW WE SAW THAT BIG BOI WAY BACK TO THIS EPISODE, I THOUGHT HE DIDN'T EXIST YET FROM A MAKING OF THE SHOW PERSPECTIVE
For the longest time Finn thought he was the final human. I wonder how long it took him to accept that fact
I wanna see Finn as a young adult and the adventures that come along with it, instead of making an off series 😢
I’ve always liked the fact that Finn always saw Joshua and Margret as his real parents, the ones who actually raised him. Their relationship makes me so happy
You know since it's a finn sword they find in the future it could be interesting if finn was still in the sword, could be like a guide to shermy
It could be the fern sword.
Did the comet ask the moth if it wants a new existence too? Cuz the comet just plucked the moth out of existence without reason
Wait wait wait... How did finn know his name, how did Jake's parents know his name??????? How did anyone know his name????????
1. It’d be a HUGE coincidence but maybe his dog parents just happened to give him the same name as his human parents. According to that one Hunson Abadeer book, that’s what happened
2. iirc the teddy bear that was on the raft w/ Baby Finn had a tag w/ his name on it. idk how it would’ve happened but maybe his first hat was made from that bear and Joshua and Margaret saw the tag.
Again, not 100% sure on this
I mean somehow his polar bear stuff toy was cut and turn to a hat for him so someone must have taken care of him
Swell video as always my pal😊🥰👍💯💕💞💖
Finn and Jake holding hands was so sweet
I just feel extremely sad that Minerva never knew the true reason why martin left the island. It makes me want to imagine an iteration where they were never separated in the first place or they found out the true reason after the show. :'(
My head cannons for Martin's change:
He became such a drastic man because he couldn't remember what he forgot. Similar to answering a math quiz and not knowing what you don't know kind of frustration but more, since it involves his life. To not remember his son, his wife or the life he led before. Maybe he remembered his con ways because of the familiarity and embraced it, fully.
I think internally he has an idea of doing something drastic to save his son, but i guess that changed to doing something drastic to save *himself*. I guess he also thought of finn as himself, like part of himself for his thought process to go in that direction
What breaks my heart the most is a man turning to good just to return to bad but much much worse when he did something praiseworthy. Maybe it's the potential he had but my heart really breaks from it. Martin is a heartbreaking character for his past but just the biggest asshole in AT, he's not even morally gray lmao
That’s what I think
I think for most of his life if martians parents were like him being con artist he just felt it was natural as he did it for so long and met his wife and son for a year he probably just remember what he used to do and do that and when he sees this he tries to remember but can’t fully but feels happiness from and just goes along with it but it hurts him Because his mind reminds him they are ones who got him like this and just leaves so that he doesn’t do something he is gonna regret but wants finn to join him so they both can start a new path where they don’t have to be on earth
Even though he doesn’t remember his pillow family I think pillow world remembers the human who visited
Distant Lands: Together Again SPOILERS:
Y’all gotta add my boy Tiffany to the list, he’s Finn and Jake’s adopted brother (in death) now.
Me in 2011-2012: oh cool! A show about a human boy and a talking magical dog that goes on whacky adventures!
Me, nearly a decade later: why am I crying?
I think that Martin in the BMO special is the reason why he was in The Crystal Citadel,Because he tried to destroy a whole planet and the BMO special is what happened in the past before BMO met Finn and Jake
Thanks for telling me something new
Here’s a new sub for you.
I like to think that Martin didn't lose his memories, rather he was so guilt driven and distraught over losing his son, his wife, and his home that he decided he would rather burn every bridge and lose his past than confront it. I think the whole idea that it was amnesia or brain damage really cheapens the character of Martin.
WHAT TIME IS IT!
*fist bump who ever tells me what time it is*
(Me hoping someone will comment and answer it)
ADVENTURE TIME
@@mythical_phoenix *fist bump*
Thank you
@@ghaneshpersaud6148 -fists bump back- your welcome
It’s time for you to shut up! Futurama reference.
@@mythical_phoenix Time to explain how Billy knew Finn’s dad and not Princess Bubblegum.
I'm surprised that many people didn't comment about finn's pillow son and daughter are married
What could they comment? That they were or something in the variaty of " I can't think of it"
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the reason he forgot the pillow world is because if u recall golb i belive golb ate them all and due to this they were totally eraised
I love how videos Id be interested in end up coming out when I just get back into the topic of said video. Long story short I’ve just begun rewatching the series of adventure time!
What's the name of the song that plays in the logo screen at 0:29? I've been trying to find it, but I can't remember the name.
I don’t really consider Fern an offspring, it’s him, but if we have to consider him a family member he’s more like a twin brother.
I guess you could say that Fern is a literal family tree
LOL
The Pillow episode still has me heartbroken even after all these years :(
At 0:13 you can see the imagined future finn with a mechanical arm. Hinting to finn losing his arm in the later seasons.
How did you miss the whole episode of fin and martin on ooo with the little snowman looking dudes
I never saw Grass Finn as evil, just a combination of misguided and bad luck. Heck even the grass demon is a creature in a bind. It's the spirit of a weapon made by a jerk that, up until it was fused with the fin sword, had been a loyal if clingy weapon to Finn.
I forgot this video was coming...