What Has Stranger Things Become?
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Maybe give people more time to click away :|
I think you could enjoy the show more if you didn’t over analyze it
@@leesouder242 I disagree. People need to think and view things critically, as that's what makes people want to make good shows. Nobody wants to watch a show where it is predictable and poorly written or composed.
@Taylor J. Williams this was great
@@leesouder242 I think he doesn't actually look for meaning in the show at all. He just watches it and looks at it the way you proofread a narrative assignment you're going to hand in.
What has Stanger Things become?
Just Normal Things.
lmaooo
slightly oddish things
Riverdale Tingz
Just things.
Good one
Season 1: Demagorgon and Eleven
Season 2: Mind Flayer and Demadogs
Season 3: RuSSiAnS lMAo
Season 4 is the one with russians m8
Sooookaaa
"remember, no russian"
Season 3 felt like an actual fanfiction you'd see on wattpad, the story is just so absurd and has no correlation to anything else
@@polkanietzsche5016 did u watch S3? It was filled with russians
The "Scoops Ahoy" gang carried Season 3 completely. I barely remember anything else about it.
Dont forget about the USS Butterscotch. Without it Steve and Robin might not survive the Russian interrogation .
YES
What? They took up as much screen time as every other subplot. And I’m pretty sure it was completely forgotten for two of the eight episodes.
@@calvinjohnson6242 Same screentime, maybe, but a difference in the quality. Their scenes stick out to me because I liked them more.
percytheblueturtle I actually commented on the wrong comment. Funny that it fit. I was commenting on the comment about El and Mikes relationship taking up too much screen time.
I really wish the show would focus on the upside down a bit more again, it’s almost like it doesn’t exists anymore.
the entire 3rd season was about the russians opening a gate to the upside down...
lil toopy the entire third season was about stopping the Russians from opening the gate. So I would argue the third season focused on the gate and the fear of Russians gaining access to the upside down, not the upside down itself. The upside down is hardly mentioned, and the main villains, Billy and The Meatflayer, were already in the over world by the time the season started. Plus, the Hardly ever mention the upside down in the third season, the focus is more on the gate itself. So I personally feel like the upside down itself has been put on the back burner and has recently only been in the show to be a place for all of the monsters to come from, not necessarily the main problem, which I believe it should be. I personally would like to see a sort of investigation of the upside down, I am personally very curious of the up side down, but I’ll be satisfied if they visit it at least one more time.
Edit: fixed a typo
@@AthenaMinerva03 I agree with you, it should be the main focus, however im glad the 4th season is probably gonna focus on hopper escaping prison in Russia
lil toopy that is a plot line I’m looking forward too!
Yep.. And season four is all about saving hopper in russia. I think they're going to be focusing more on the upside down in season 5...
Three things I didn't like about Season 3:
1/ Almost no tension. I was never hyped for the upcoming episode. I didn't feel anything was at stake.
2/ I wasn't buying the Russian base under Hawkins, so clean and well lighted.
3/ They turned Sheriff Hopper into a bumbling daddy making stupid faces and saying stupid things.
How tf did you not feel tension?
Secret Russian bases are supposed to be dirty and have bad lightning?
They probably have babushkas keeping the place tidy and berating officers for leaving shoe prints everywhere.
@@anwa3237 Is there ever good lightning?
Hopper looked like Homer Simpson
Fight me
An Wa not what he meant, it was just very out of nowhere
It only took 3 seasons and they're already Simpson-fied. They're not characters anymore; they're just caricatures.
They got Ned Flanders-ized.
The Unknown Doctor she plays the role of typical lesbian that Netflix adds to all their shows
Being a lesbian is just one of her character traits though. It's not like she's defined by it
@@mekki8998 yes and we know she is lesbian only since the middle of the last episode
@@squidward9747 lesbian character, even if she's not defined by her sexuality and isn't a part of who she is = bad
S3 just seems like the show became too self-aware because of it's huge popularity...almost a parody of itself.
Yes
TETCOM haha just finished Ozarks. Glad both shows exist 🙂
Season 1: sweet innocent kids and *fake dead bodies*
Season 2: more love and *possession*
Season 3: *wHaT iS wROnG wiTh mY mAGneTs* , puberty, and hopper being an asshole
Ye .... Hopper went crazy
and joyce being cheezy af in s3
My favorite character was Hopper until the third season, wish that didn't happened, also he became an action hero for some reason at parts
Hopper was very funny in this season
@@drbuni at least he’s gonna get a mega redemption ark in season 4
Season one: who's will
Season two: we saw a little bit of will
Season three: didn't see enough of will
Season four: um he literally had four lines
Season five: one scene that's it
This hurts...I'm very fond of Will Byers' character and they really had to make him look like a a fool in Season 3! Give Noah Schnapp something good to act, please! He's a great actor!
😂
Season six: they forgot to include will
@@Messerchmitt11B The Stranger Things Version Of We Forget About Dre
Ahaha I love when the character I can deeply relate to is completely forgotten by the writers
Season 1 feels like taking place in real-world with its sense of mystery and horror. Seasons 2 and 3 feel like watching video game where characters have to fight off multiple spawning enemies until they beat the level
The inclusion of the mayor was so bizarre to me. Where was he with the whole Hawkins lab debacle?
One more 80s throwback (princess bride)
@@berryseinfeld6772 pretty pointless tho
Season 1 will always be the best. I loved the eerie horror vibe to it. The humor was on point and NOT OVERDONE, the writing was fantastic, and the dark gritty visuals really drew me in. All that was lost in the later seasons. Season 1 honestly felt like something out of A24, everything after that felt like a fan fiction
Eh, Series 1 was awesome, but I think I prefer s2 and 3.
The main thing that bugs me about season 3 was how gratuitious El's leg wound was. Like it makes you physically uncomfortable watching them "operate" on her. I get that's entirely intentional, but given Stranger Things has generally been realistic with how it treats its characters as fragile human beings, the fact El could SURVIVE such a horrific "operation" on her leg and NOT bleed out felt unrealistic. She even rips the piece of the Mind Flayer out of her leg which should have realistically killed her from blood loss and trauma.
That and in the next scene she's standing and walking unaided...Until the Billy chase scene happens. THEN suddenly she's unable to walk unaided. That and her powers disappearing wasn't explained.
Maybe her powers were all subconsciously directed towards healing her leg/preventing blood loss? Either they're still working on something to do with her leg (fighting off some sort of toxin from the Mind Flayer?), or they're simply suppressed by her emotions? Either way, I agree that it is unrealistic.
it will be explained in season 4, much like the resolution of all the plots we were presented in s3
El should have died from blood loss anyway due to how heavily everybody relies on her to get things done. The other characters may do most of the investigating, but the investigation generally leads to some point where the solution is "have El do x", or they get in a situation where they need El to deus ex the fuck of them out of the monster's grasp. I think after some point, she uses her powers every single episode at least once.
Everyone was a superhuman this season. The fight at the hospital should have killed Jonathan or make him a paraplegic for the rest of his life.
Same for Steve. He got beat up for hours until unconsciousness, no way he would've been able to drive a couple of hours later.
@@FKA91 Lmao yeah, I watched this season with my friends, and we kept screaming about how Jonathan should've been paralysed after the hospital. Dude got a chair smashed on him multiple times but still walked around just fine.
As a Russian I really had a lot of fun listening to the Russian language in the series without the dubbing!
And also Alexei is too pure for this world wth
He's gone on to a better place, full of Woody Woodpecker reruns and cherry slurpees
How was the speech/accent with the American speaking Russian?
JJ Oliver Bad, but I think it’s supposed to be
Was Brett Gelman's accent good? I was starting to wonder if he just knows Russian, took a bunch of classes, or only rehearsed the lines he was supposed to say.
Why Bother Yeah, that's who we are talking about, as I said his accent was bad, but it was supposed to be bad I think, because his character is just a paranoid guy who learned Russian because he thought there were Russian spies. I think he just rehearsed the lines.
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ItsNoahScott i was waiting for this comment lol
Dingus
Strange, I disagree with popular opinion on this one.
Stranger Things 1 was a 9/10 for me. It was the mystery, the drama, the characters, the horror.
Stranger Things 2 was a 8/10. The Mind Flayer gave me goosebumps with him possessing Will, the drawings, the mystery of the tunnels. Every episode felt like there were more pieces added to the puzzle. I loved it.
Stranger Things 3 was a 4/10. I felt no suspense trough the whole thing. Yes it was bonkers and really funny, had great moments, great new character developement and cinematography. But the whole plot makes no sense. Its illogical. The mystical aspects are gone. The horror. The investigation. Now its not normal believable humans going against unbelievably horrifying monsters anymore. Suddenly its fucking superheroes who know they are superheroes and act like fucking morons 99% of the time.
They infiltrate some dangerous places for no reason at all, risking their lives, and somehow manage to conveniently stumble into the right situations to lazily keep the plot moving.
Well, I didnt enjoy it too much, still had a fine time watching it, and now Im just hoping they will go back to things I liked from Seasons 1 and 2 for the upcoming Seasons.
I agree
Same
What ? Season 2 more like a 7
Season 3 was a let down yes. Also it's starting to stretch credulity that this is the third big incident now in the town yet still nobody outside the core cast sees anything or shows any interest in the events. A hospital is trashed in season 3 and many people inside murdered and yet it's never brought up again. Even among the main cast, surely every single parent would be getting their kids out of that town!
I feel completely the same! Good to see someone feel the same
S1: Wheres will?!
S2: Whats wrong will?!
S3:
*MAGNEETS*
Decayedgamer72 stolen
@@hiimmatthew277 k
ive seen that joke way too many times its so overused
@@HPsawus k, your name describes the joke well.
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instead of developing will as a character and exploring his trauma (like they introduce in the first few episodes) they used him as a plot device to tell us when the moster was about to arrive. It felt like really lazy writing, specially because will, along with eleven, is the most interesting and complex character the show has
Moreover, he was really annoying at least for me. We are supposed to like and pity him for "losing" his friends when they have gf-s, but after that scene where Mike says "Did you really think we'll be playing games for the whole life?" and Will answers "yeah, I thought exactly that" I nearly started to hate him. Like cmon, I know he had trauma and is still child, but not even child would say such retarded thing
@Laura Bamond maybe. It Just sounded too selfish and not friendly, which didn't help to develop love for Will
@@bioswat96 I get what your saying but wouldnt you feel that way too if you had friends you spent your whole life with ignore you will was ignorged the whole season 3 all he said was the mind flayer is coming I feel like he should have gotten more attention.
@@bioswat96 I think Will knew his mom was planning on moving and he will have to say goodbye to his friends and therefore wanted to play at least one last session with them and stay together (especially after all he's gone through). Mike spends more time with El (keeping her all to himself) and doesn't spend time with the rest of the guys and Will has to go along with the two dudes talking about girlfriends and feels ignored. In the end, it isn't Mike or Will's fault that the group is separating. They are all part of the group, they are all "selfish" in their own way, and its the job of everyone to maintain the group together. Sadly the season doesn't develop this part of the group well.
@@bioswat96 he's a kid. It's exactly the kind of dumb shit a kid would say, real life doesn't follow logic so it's a very realistic depiction.
season one was so good even the coloring was perfect. kinda greyish but i hope that season four has that same feel
The DOP said that in season 1 there wasn't a lot of colour because it wasn't the most optimistic tone that season. In Season 2 they held onto that look but colours got a bit more saturated. In Season 3 because of the Mall and Swimming pool as the main locations + the fact it was supposed to take place in the summer of 1985 meant he wanted a lot more colour, especially neons and bright primaries.
Lee W yh and i don’t think s4 will be all the optimistic due to the fact they’re all separated and dealing with the loss of their loved ones so maybe they will go back to the grayish tone in s1
“What Has Stranger Things Become?” I don’t know, but I’ve seen stranger things.
Sparky Mckay wow aren’t you just super fuckin funny
haha
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I love how season 1 was basically 3 different movies happening. A kids adventure movie like stand by me, a suspense about government conspiracies with Hopper, and a teen horror with the high schoolers. It’s not like that anymore
Season 3 was like 2 movies happening.
You could say this series went from an 80s horror fantasy with well rounded characters and uniqe dialogue to F U C K I N G B O N K E R S
lol so what your saying is s3 sucked
@@strangeorthings3526 no
@@LPTV84 so what are you saying ?
It became a parody of itself unfortunately
My thought exactly. I couldn't watch it beyond episode 2.
Season 3 was ok. I didnt like the little girl that was part of steves group and the "Terminator" was straight up bad imo.
YOU DIDNT LIKE ERICA 😡😡😡😡
Haley Avveduto nah she was annoying as fuckkk
@@haley-hd4tn IM LOUD. AND IM BLACK. ISNT THAT FUNNY?
You can't spell America without Erica.
Erica’s actor is fine but they just gave her a bad character
7:42 I believe that is the best way you could possibly describe season 3.
It's..........fiction
Samael Malkira I know. But, compared to other seasons, it was F * C K I N G B O N K E R S
fucking bonkers is a great thing
S1: 9/10 loved it, it was something new
S2: 8.5/10 my personal favourite season, hated the sister episode but I loved Noah’s acting
S3: 3/10 such a let down, not rewatch able, way too cartoonish and unrealistic, no real stakes
I hope season 4 can redeem this show, it used to be my favourite show but I’m not too sure now
I thought I was the only one that found season 3 unwatchable atleast for the plot
I'm only halfway through the video but had to jump down here to say the "cartoonish" thing is absolute spot-on! I got halfway through the Scoops Troop Russian-infiltration episode before turning to my husband and commenting that it felt like a Scooby Doo episode. This is absolutely spot on.
I still enjoyed s3, but man it does not compare to s1 and 2. It's falling into fanservice hard.
Just to add to your comment: The actors of the Scoop Troop had referred to some of the scenes as the "Scooby Doo scenes" on a recent video here on TH-cam.
@randomfan276 I agree with the fan service thing so much!!! I think what made the first two seasons (especially season 1) so entertaining was that it was a new show acting on existing concepts. It worked because they tackled the high school drama and monster aspect in a very unique way, quite different from what we see in regular tv shows. Season 3 just felt like they had watered down the darkness of the show to make it more memeable(I guess). I really hope they come back to the level of season 1 in the next one/two seasons.
yu said it. "it's falling into fanservice."
@Ocean Blue No. Fanservice is deliberate 'fan-pleasing' moments added to the show in the hopes of becoming talking points or memes, even though they're gratuitous, add nothing to the storyline, or don't make sense with the characters.
I love character stuff. No issues with that.
Fanservice is not inherently bad. Endgame had tonnes of fanservice (eg that moment with Captain America in the final fight), but these moments were generally spaced out, not too drawn out and felt natural as part of the movie. They made sense with the characters and were consistent with previous MCU movies.
The problem with ST is that there are so many moments in S3 that are clearly written directly in response to the internet's reaction in S2. Since the show has never really done that before they stick out like a sore thumb and completely took me out of the moment.
Jusr look at the popular memes after S2:
- Mum!Steve -- not mentioned at all in S2, suddenly front-and-centre and directly called out by Robin in S3.
- Matchmaker!Murray - he set up Jonathan and Nancy and in S2 and it was funny. So now we're doing the exact same thing again but with Jopper...which is great and all, but they're two mature adults with a long history and no previous communication difficulty. It's a conpletely different situation to two awkward teenagers, and the whole scene felt farcical.
- Erica. People liked her in S2 so she's back for more screen time and even sassier in S3. Even though she added absolutely nothing to the plot. If the vent was big enough to fit Dustin, nothing would change.
-"Steve needs to win a fight!". And he does, which would be fine if it weren't for Dustin's extensive commentary basically quoting the.most common internet comments on this after S2.
Etc etc. There's too much.
@Ocean Blue As I said, fanservice itself isn't bad. It just felt really forced and overdone to me this season. You're welcome to have a different opinion - clearly you're not alone in loving a lot of this stuff. It just didn't work for me.
I just feel this series isn't focused on character based storytelling, but rather event-based storytelling.
Justin S Y E S !!! this is what I’ve been trying to put into words! I have invested so much time into stranger things because I adore the progression of friendships and character development and I got absolutely nothing bar the scoops troops on occasion in season 3. devastating honestly.
The upside down is legitimately terrifying and we barely talk about it. Meanwhile, we've had two seasons about Russians
OP: “I wasn’t even alive in the 80’s so...”
Me: OMG I’m old. Season 3 takes place in 1985, when I was 14/15 lol. On the clothes, they are close to what we wore. At this time we were getting into loud patterns & color and close to the neon times lol. I personally am loving the series’ nostalgia and cheesy-ness of the kids, it’s a fun flashback. I love that the kids are smart but very naive, because we were. We knew what our parents & teachers told us and what we could manually research so we really had no idea how the world really worked. I think the show portrays that mindset pretty well ❤️
@@Nauurrrrr stop commenting and hating on all people who've lived through the 80s and enjoy the references and nostalgia, I personally like reading how it gives people memories of when they were younger. Ironically, no one cares if you don't care about them you little agitated shithead, once (well.. if) you grow up you'll understand how thinking about your past feels great to recall.
@@Nauurrrrr She wasn't born in the 80's (and obviously isn't bragging). Why doesn't it surprise me that you can't math.
@@Nauurrrrr Learn to read. If she was born in the 80's she wouldn't be 14/15. Derrrhhhrrr.
Me too. Was 15 in 1985 when this season takes place. I loved this season (probably more than last), I still think the first season is the best, but Season 3 had aspects that were pretty great.
i think S3 contrasted the transition from the 'normal' or neutral 80s (more rooted in the 70s) to the spritzy/movie 80s pretty well. cos i was 16 that year and i definitely had opinions about it.
You do have to admit that, that final battle with the fireworks was absoultely amazing though
MikePlusGaming I called them using fireworks a while ago
Eh.
There was hardly any explanation as to what happened to the remains, let alone how closing the gate killed it
@@jixaw9383 closing the gate doesn't kill it, it just stops the mind flayer from controlling or interacting with anything on our world. They severe the brain from the body. And the government would have destroyed it or atleast stored it at their own facilities inorder to cover it up.
MikePlusGaming It was beautiful in all fairness. Same with the entire season tbh, the colours were just amazing. Show has lost its magic though
Billy's purpose is basically to be the Steve from season 1 and the evil guy in season 3
Billy was nothing like steve in season 1, steve had good intentions and was likeable in season 1 but billy was just an asshole to be an asshole.
man idk i thought billy was super interesting. like the dynamic with his dad and max. he's totally an asshole but he's also a victim (like most real life bullies). i just wish we had gotten to see his character develop more
"combines reddit, tumblr and instagram"
I just threw up in my mouth.
Is your surname, by any chance, 'Kira'?
@@draingaming4518 how's your quiet life?
@@georgerobinson4654 well it was going good until i fused with that josefumi guy
I think my biggest problem with the show and most forms of fiction in general is the fact that the stakes keep rising and the odds get worse and worse. In season 1 I appreciated the fact that it felt like if they could team up they could be successful, but ever since then the stakes keep rising and it becomes harder to feel like it is grounded. I think my favorite form of fiction the A Song of Ice and Fire books in part because the stakes are decreasing as time goes on.
It's a bad CW-level teen soap opera at this point. Pass on future seasons
watched season 1 episode 1-3... big meh in general
The characters becoming these cartoonish stereotypes of themselves seems kind of natural though. They all have been through a lot of trauma whether it is everyday human problems or fighting off monsters. The characters are trying to become more normal and they really start to ease up on the over the top behaviors when they start fighting monsters. I think the best way to end Stranger Things is if in season 4, they somehow blend the cartoonish people they've become into more realistic versions of themselves.
Where were Nancy and Jonathan this entire season tbh I forgot they were even in this show
It's like the show started as a horror/drama that was heavy and mysterious and became a fan service comedy drama dump. As a fan of horror I adored the first season and watched the whole thing in one day. As soon as the second came out I watched it nearly as fast, but then seeing what the third looked like, and knowing of what had happened in the second season that was sorta dumb I realized it's a completely different show. I didn't watch it, so what I based my opinions of was the aesthetic and feel of the show from what I've seen, but after hearing you sum it up a bit, I can confirm my suspicions were correct.
Unpopular opinion: Season 2 is the best season
Unfortunately, season 3 is my least favorite season. I did love the humor of it and the colorization but I had many issues and questions after watching it a couple times. First of all, how did the Russians find a “new” gate in Hawkins if it was sealed up at Hawkins lab after El closed it...? And in season 3, how are all these people (the flayed) going missing but no one talks about it? This is what I did like about the season: Murray’s character, Steve and Dustin’s growing relationship, El starting to normalize to teen culture, El and Max’s friendship, Alexei, the summer of ‘85 vibes, and a few more things. But honestly, I did not like this Russian plot at all. And I also did not like how glazed off Will’s character was. I understand that seasons 1&2 focused a lot on will but will went through SO MUCH trauma, it would’ve been refreshing and interesting to see how he deals with it because I’m damn sure that poor kid has got to have some sort of ptsd or fragile mindset. Same with Eleven. Even Nancy who lost barb and saw the horrors of the upside down. The actual realistic issues were not touched on which would’ve gave more depth and dimension to the characters. They touched a little bit on it with Joyce thinking back to bob and a little bit on will when he destroyed castle Byers (a very powerful scene btw). But idk. Everything felt too fast paced and sticky sweet if that makes sense. The mind flayer was too much for me I guess and I wish it still had that mysterious-no-one-knows-what-this-is kinda vibe. I do miss the conspiracy vibes and mysterious atmosphere of seasons 1&2 but I know if they continued that, if would’ve gotten old. The Russian plot is spicy and new I guess but maybe just the execution was poor. If they wanted to include Russians, maybe they could’ve introduced a Russian girl or boy who has powers and somehow ends up in Hawkins. Similar to an eleven situation except the Russians would have a reason to infiltrate Hawkins. I don’t know. Just a thought. SPOILER: hoppers death was really sad and the writers did a grey job on that and capturing that emotion but I just miss the realism of the show and how it felt “familiar but scary” as Murray says. Nothing was just realistic. Like the kids never being home or around their parents? Dustin, Steve, and robin cracking some weird Russian code? The mind flayer’s presence running through Hawkins without ANYONE noticing? Idk. I also would have liked to see Billy’s character developed more and hopefully Max’s trauma, as well as everyone else’s, will be touched up on. I don’t know. It definitely wasn’t my favorite season but it could be worse. I think the writers showcased Nancy’s position at the Hawkins post well, with her being a woman in the workplace in all. It brought a great deal of attention to that kind of atmosphere for working women back in those days. But also, Nancy and Jonathan low key annoyed me this season lol. Like Nancy from season one is my favorite. I just feel like she was flat this season because all she was doing was running a rampage about diseased rats and being so focused on trying to find out the next big thing. Idk probably just me. But it isn’t the worst season. I did enjoy it and I have watched it multiple times and I will watch it again. Hopefully season four though will tie this season together and make it seem great and less confusing and more clever. We’ll see though...
u never know, el might be half russian or something.
Anthony I mean some people must’ve read it because someone responded and it has some like lmao. Idk why ya’ll in the Internet always gotta be commenting negative things like just keep it to ya damn self🥱🥱🥱
Why is Steve always getting beat up?
All are same. It starts with all characters are at one place then they split up after that find some unusual alien thing and in the last episode all comes together and defeat the alien thing.
Ranking the 3 different plots
Scoops Ahoy
Alexei
Eleven max and the boys
The worst plot by far is - Jonathan and Nancy
That's around where I'd put it as well.
Not BY FAR... cause you're forgetting the "Dustin does/doesn't have a girlfriend" plot. Even if you enjoyed the Neverending Story part, it was still pretty stupid.
I'm also confused how he spent 3 weeks at summer camp but was back before July 4th? What month did school get out in the 80s?
@@Mastaace I viewed that as a running gag, not a storyline. The Neverending Story bit was a bit awkward, though.
Why Bother They we’re probably let out of school in May
For me the only problems with S3 is that they did Will/Noah really dirty and that Mike and Eleven’s whole relationship was a cliche mess.
edit: i left this comment 3 years ago. i still stand by the things i said for the most part, but i think that it's important to note that mike's parents show little to no affection for one another over the course of the entire series. this obviously has its impact on his relationship with el. ofc, this isn't an excuse but it's an explanation. mixed with el's general emotional immaturity (which makes sense given what she's been through), their relationship spells DISASTER. if they were an irl couple id genuinely suggest that they take a good, long break and grow separately. i'd personally prefer for el to remain single, but that's probably just me.
edit 2: i left this comment 4 years ago and uhh fuck netflix free palestine :))
Relationships are a cliche mess
I was so full of their relationship like NOBODY CARES ABOUT YALL KISSING JUST LETS KILL THE FUCKING MONSTER
Teens are a cliche mess and relationships are a cliche mess wtf did you expect
slv Teen relationships being messy doesn't change the fact that it was badly written.
yeah honestly i couldnt care less about mike and el's relationship
I really liked season 3 but it was mostly beacuse of Steve.
Feel ya 😂 the only reason I watched it
Alexei was mine, but Steve was amazing too
and dustin
Season 2 Steve was way better than season 3 Steve in my opinion
I liked the aesthetic i mean come on it looked AMAZING
It became less of a mystery/horror and became more of a slice of life / teen comedy
It's like the writers from Riverdale took over or something.
Oh god I hope it doesn’t become like Riverdale
So sad :( I mean seriously, what happened? why'd they have to do tHAT 😔 I really loved the first season and the second season was really enjoyable too but the third one, justttttt noo
More of a mediocre slice of life / teen comedy
@@Rivenlore99 oh no don't compare stranger things to riverdale, at least stranger things has a good plot and a message
Will either:
1. Announces the monster “is here”
2. Wants to play some D&D
Adventure you’re point is?
And then GIVES IT UP as if to say, "This is for children and I'm no longer a child". Which is kinda' a crappy message to give. Especially considering the adults who continue to play it and still have a fulfilling adulthood.
@@Fortecloud Basically the Bran of Stranger Things
Forte cloud when you try to sound smart but misspell a word
@@BurningFreesias that was the mindset of mike and lucas, not will. will didn't want to give up D&D, but he felt like his friends just didn't care any more and got upset.
None of the characters in season 3 took their situations seriously, so neither did I.
Perfectly said.
The Four Horsemen what do u mean caricatures of themselves
@@serenitybeats1677 Look up Flanderization
@@serenitybeats1677 "Flanderization is the act of taking a single (often minor) action or trait of a character within a work and exaggerating it more and more over time until it completely consumes the character. Most always, the trait/action becomes completely outlandish and it becomes their defining characteristic."
cow moo thank u love
Season 1: *WILL* , where are you??
Season 2: *WILL* , what's wrong?!?
Season 3: PRODUCT PLACEMENT
Horst von Hinten yeah because it’s and 80s mall
Are Eggos not a product? What about Coke? Tampax? Three Musketeers?
@@metalmayhem3622 Lots of products are found throughout...
@@metalmayhem3622 Yeah, but previous seasons handled product placement with more grace than this season. 11 denting the coke can in season 1 focused on her character and the powers on display. The story still continued, and the presence of the coke can was to ground you in the 80s setting. This season pauses EVERYTHING to highlight a product. It felt sickening after a while. That scene where Lucas just talks about new coke was just... cringe.
Season 3: *mAgNeTs*
This show deserves no mercy after what they did to one of the most interesting characters. Will was awfully underused, which even worse considering the actor is one of the best in the show!
Noah Schnapps acting is amazing in Season 2. I was so disappointed with what little they gave his character to do in Season 3. I hope that changes next Season, and the writers stop being so concerned with adding new characters every time.
You could have taken Lucas out of Season 3 completely and it wouldn't have made a single difference to the story. His little sister gets more dialogue this season. Also how can he just be gone for days and his family apparently don't notice or care?
@@leew1598 exactly, which was pretty shitty because i love Lucas. Definitely would have preferred him with Steve, Robin and Dustin instead of Erica
@@twbtsfan557 diversity. The group needed a black girl.
@@yurichtube1162 Lucas is black?
In a nutshell: it’s become more about fan service
Yessss. And it did so successfully
But the fun and horror is gone now
Sadly
Theres a general rule of thumb, the more popular something gets generally the worse it becomes. Theres always exceptions (breaking bad and such) but theyre rare.
I'm what you would call a fan and I've been less pleased with season 3 compared to the first 2 seasons.
My main concern was the lack mystery and dullness the show had to offer in Season 1. In the first episode we see Russians trying to open up a portal to the Upside Down and Billy getting possessed. We spend the entire rest of the season watching characters try to solve mysteries that we already know while trying to resolve seemingly harmless conflict. Plus, I loved the realistic and late autumn vibe the first season had to offer. It really blended well with the mystery horror it had. Plus, the color palette used in this season was way to vibrant and cartoony like you said
In the first season, we learn things only when the characters do. Instead of waiting for the characters to get on the phone tree.
I mean thats the mid 80s aesthetic
Karen Page I think you mean Season 3?
Karen Page yeah there was way to much waiting for the characters to catch up in season three
It might not make as much sense but I LOVED the season three aesthetic
Season 1 was more suspenseful, grounded, and mysterious. A mechanic is secretly spying on your house? A kid's body was faked? That stuff was actually really intriguing and I couldn't stop watching.
But season 3 is almost comical, the characters basically only have one trait that they express throughout the whole season. It was fun, but still, it's a complete downgrade. At least it wasn't game of thrones.
Quinten McLaughlin i love season 3 it was the best thing ever
Yea, all the characters were blatantly overexaggerated and it felt like there were no real consequences or actual mystery
i thought S3 was the best so far, at the very least the most enjoyable..
S1 was awesome and new, S2 didnt have the same impact as season 1 and had some pacing issue's (the infamous ep7)
S3 after a 2 year wait was really great and made me laugh out loud and cry (hoppers letter at the end) and unlike GOT, the year wait was satisfyng to watch :-) :-)
Season 3 was basically about making the females look good while making the guys look bad.
At least it didn't became Game of Thrones.
Season 1 was horror with a little comedy, season 2 and 3 is comedy with a little horror
Season 2 Is a mix but season three is a comedy
ts nebula correct
@@robespierre2837 Season 2 is not scary at all, not even disturbing in the way even Season 3 sometimes could (I'm talking primarily the scenes with Billy, particularly the one with him and Heather axing off her parents, the only one in the entire season that actually felt like Season 1 in its eeriness-also, Heather's actress was hot af and that's always a plus). I mean, it tried like fuck but it _never_ once succeeded, at least not for me. I could literally hear the Duffers practically begging me on their knees to as much as flinch during the Aliens-ripping off lab shootout but I never did. Stranger Things has some of the worst jumpscares I've ever seen in film, you can see them from a mile away. I mean, was anyone even a tiny bit surprised when Bob was offed the moment _everything_ made it look like he would make out okay? Although credit where credit is due, this is the only love triangle in S2 out of three (!) they actually cheaped their way out of by murdering one of the guys involved.
@@yarpen26 what I said in my comment was that season 2 wasn't as scary as 1,but with the demodogs and mainly the mind flayer,and with will it was certainly scarier then season 3,which was like an episode of friends
Stranger Things isn't/shouldn't be scary. That's what Gaten, who plays Dustin in the show, said. It's really more interesting, and I think the directors are trying to live up to that.
Just notice the formula from Season 1-3. Basically...
1-2 Episodes: Villain intro and separate into various groups
3-4 Episodes: Have each mystery presents itself to indivual groups
5-6 Episodes: Unknowingly connect all evidence from said mystery like puzzle pieces
7-8 Episodes: Ele goes berserk against the main baddy
That's litteraly the plot of every episode WTF?
I know right? Especially when they split up without even CONTACTING the others about anything each time!
It's like y'all should've learned since season 1, that when stranger things happen, YOU ALERT ONE ANOTHER!
Instead they pretend like the rest don't exist and go on their own little adventures until the finale where everyone acts so freaking surprised when the hero comes back at the last second to rescue them before they all die.
@@lepotato135 agreed
Pretty much explains why I’m always most invested Episodes 3-6. I like ST as a mystery thriller.
El didn’t go berserk and was saved by billy and Joyce in the end of season 3 though
The issue is that they gloss over Will so much.
Poundchan you want him to be possessed again? Give the sweet boy the rest he needs
Ya all he did was say Can we play D&D now and touch the back of his neck.
@@DjVader112 lmao i agree no more monsters for my poor boy, HOWEVER,,,, i👏🏻 Need👏🏻 the👏🏻 will👏🏻 coming👏🏻 out👏🏻 storyline👏🏻
Will got sidelined so hard, I almost expected him to start saying She's muh queen and I dun wunt it.
Omara Oliver "no chance?" - how? Because it's HIGHLY IMPLIED from the very first episode that he is gay. Read the Montauk Bible, read the snowball scene script and then re watch the show. He's not Bi, he's not Ace/Aro and he's definitely not straight.
I hate that everything was about mike and el’s relationship.
Hana sm i feel like they sacrificed all the other incredible sub-plots that were possible just so they could give mileven fan accounts editing material
it literally wasn't
It wasn't.. you're just being picky at this point
Tina Love just my opinion, maybe i am being picky and ignorant.
Hana sm you’re not
Almost everyone:
Season 1: What the hell is going on?!!?
Season 2: Its not new.
Season 3: Nothing is strange anymore.
That or it's genius commentary on 80's sequels:
Season 1 / Film 1: The phenomenon
Season 2 / Film 2: Lackluster Rehash
Season 3 / Film 3: New direction, focus on dumb action, comedy
Season 4 / Film 4: The cash grab
Season 5 / Film 5: The D-list sequel with none of the original cast
BlazingOwnager
I thought the second movie was generally a better version of the first
BlazingOwnager empire strakes back
Facts
BlazingOwnager
I’m betting the Duffer brothers will listen to the feedback and edit the script.
It's a parody of itself now. That's really the biggest thing to say.
Exactly
yes, this was absolutely the most disappointing aspect of season 3.
This comment...
Is hillarious for some reason
The true horror is how they made Steve wear that outfit throughout the entire season.
I wish they went back to the mysterious horror feel they had in season one. I'm also sick of any stupid ass teen romance garbage.
Season 2 had that same tone.
Yes bro like everybody dont gotta be in a relationship shit is so forced especially wit Lucas and Max they JUST met and already a couple? Come on bro i cud maybe understand El and Mike she was like Anne Franking in his house so they formed a bond but all these new niggas dont even really have that chemistry like Dustin goes to science camp and gets a girlfriend how that sound. Poor Will has to break thru two dimensions out of the upside down and into the 4th wall just to tell the audience this shit is fucked up lhh.
@@seandafny Season 3 is like months after Season 2.
Season 1 and 2 we're amazing
And well you know about Season 3
TheKro16 ugh tell me about it
In a nutshell: Don't sacrifice character for the plot.
Yeah Hopper did nothing to deserve this
Literally every problem I have with this season in one sentance. This comment is underrated
What ? Hold that thought
But also actually have a plot
Bruce J well he is alive so...
Best thing about this season? Alexei.
😭
🍒🥤
I love Alexei, but Robin was the best thing about the season
I was genuinely sad when the Terminator knockoff shot him, I almost cried lol
Smirnoff?
Steve, Dustin and Robin singlehandedly carried season 3.
Also was I the only one who thought that they were building towards some kind of tragic massacre at the 4th of July faire and was then slightly disappointed that it didn't happen?
A Skeleton Dustin and Steve were okay to me - Idk why but I don’t normally like the weird, funny characters mostly because I’m not a big fan of comedy. I like characters more whose personalities are mainly serious or smart, etc. but still has some funny lines and dynamics here and there to make the show a bit relatable rather than just characters who are always comedic even in the middle of serious life and death situations.
“Steve, Dustin and Robin”
*Erica says hello*
@Karleigh Bennett I thought the mall thing was a cover up for the flayed?
bruh, and Billy. it was stupid to introduce his character and kill him the very next season but the actor did one hell of a job.
@@b.h.thebadass8107 Bob and barb got killed in their first season, they show just hates b named people
You: alexei is a bit cartoonish...
Me: >:O
You: but i enjoyed him
Me: :)
^^ why is this me
Same
Worse character
@Alieninspace - yes
@@LyExe-cc2bm W-What??? Are you sure we're talking bout' the same guy? Alexei? The worst character? WhAt tHe fUcK
all the characters in s3 feel like they're exemplifying just one of their traits they had before and blowing that trait up
ELECTRIFIED
So happy to see how many people agree with this exact sentence.
EXACTLY. IT'S LIKE THEY'RE SOME TEENAGE FANFIC DOUJIN DOWNGRADE OF THEMSELVES
Flanderization (a term i just learned)
You're describing flanderization. And yeah, I can totally see that.
I WAS alive in the ‘80s, and as the years progressed, the outfits got louder and crazier. The mid to late ‘80s really did look like this.
Where did you live?
80s were the best, besides all the stabbings
i wish i was alive in that time period
@@hotbeans3141 I know this a late reply lol, but I don’t think the 80s were that *amazing* we hear all these awesome things about the 80s, but I feel like it depends on your experience some people’s worst years were in the 80s idk that’s just my opinion.
@@Fantastic_Stranger yeah don't worry i appreciate the response
The whole Russian thing was so Cliche and Ridiculous. Kids are able to intercept and decipher Russian codes but NOT the CIA,NSA,FBI,US Army,or even Local Police?
So much for Homeland Security....SMH
Also the guard let through Murray even though he talked Russian with a strong american English accent.
I suppose one could argue that there were sleeper agents posted in the states before hand who might have picked up the accent? ^^'
Matt Dorton Probably because the signals came from Hawkins??? And the people wouldn’t find that a big deal at all? “Oh nooo Russian speaking Russian send the troops”
Nah it made sense in context
As a person whose main language is russian (no, I'm not *from* Russia) and is aware of stereotypes in American and Russian cultures, I was quite annoyed by yet another "red-commie-big bad-bastards" storyline, especially in a show like Stranger Things! It is so overdone.
Abother issue I have with Season 3 is that we almost *never* left the mall. Yeah, we saw a hospital, an office building, a 4th of July festival, a...farm-like thing where the flayed were hiding, but they were quite brief
"I still think season 1 is a near perfect season of television" 10000% one of the greatest seasons in all of television period
Got totally robbed of an Emmy.
I thought the ending was meh honestly. The season overall was great though.
Niall Reid I agree, but I kind of like that. The season wasn't about the ending, it was about the buildup, and you almost never see that
Yes season 1 is the best
Season 3 is just a bad fanfiction and no one can convince me otherwise.
@@ethanjobson3879 , it totally did, and if the show continues the way it does, and wins down the line, it's only because the Emmy people are making up for the fact that they didn't give it the award the first time around.
I feel like Season 3 was a distorted reflection of what the writers thought people liked about the show. They amped up the 80s-ness, doubled down on the shipping aspect, included large amounts of gooey gross out imagery... and played the "russians bad" trope so straight the Washington Monument is trembling in sheer terror. And the fact that Season 4 will probably delve even further into this gets a beleaguered sigh from me. The political subtext worked best when it *was* subtext.
did you like season 4?
@@Gavimaster It was easily the worst
Season1: wHeRe Is My SoN
Season 2: WhAT IS wrOng wIth My SON
Season 3:WHY aRe My MagNeTs NOt StICkiNg to The FrIiDGe
Katie bitch xo Xo Oh god I lov e memes!
Season 4: The ultimate plot: WhY iS mY sOn NoT sTiCkInG tO mY fRiDgE
@@ap0llogetic427 LMAOOOOOO
Katie bitch xo Xo tru
Lol
They ruined hopper they made him an asshole.
Also do you remember when Nancy got stuck in the upside down? Why did basically everyone forget about that?
And hopper might have jumped into the upside down.
And Alexi might have survived just pretended to be dead so he was safe and they were
it pissed me off how hopper was being so mean to mike. like, eleven would be dead if it wasn't for mike
Anna Adams and he kept them away from each other for 353 days
@@annaadams9706 nah the relationship Mike had with Eleven was unhealthy. Even Mike admits it. Plus Mike was being a little shit and showed no respect to Hopper when he tried to calmly talk to them. Hopper handeled it in his own way.
Also why would Eleven be dead without Mike? I don't remember him saving her life. The government was only trying to capture her, not kill her. And Mike never saved her from the monsters of season 1 or 2, she saved him multiple times though. So what do you mean?
@@darencolby1916 Hopper wasnt being shitty to mike because he understood how trauma bonding worked and that that was the basis of their relationship, he was shitty to mike because a.he was jealous and b.felt he owned eleven. Eleven was also being hunted by the demogorgons like everyone else, and honestly I'm not convinced Brenner would've allowed another experiment to escape just because she's expensive and useful. A decade long effort wasted? Sure. But at least there wouldn't be another special big brain angry child running around bending spoons and shit on her own free will, or potentially being taken by The Russians and being used against them. Mike found her and housed her, Mike was her second contact with another human being unrelated to the experiments (RIP Benny). Mike was more or less Eleven's will, Eleven's conscience, Eleven's reason to act, and her dictionary until she was able to at least somewhat develop her own. Eleven would've gone back with Brenner, thinking that the world was cruel and he was the only source of kindness she'd ever have, had she not met and been helped by Mike, Dustin, and Lucas. She was afraid but had no reason to try to fix anything without them.
Daren Colby unhealthy?? They were kids, maybe they had conflicts that kids have but it wasn’t unhealthy... and threatening and lying to a couple of kids is NOT handeling it “his own way”. His character arc from the previous season where he learned the importance of communicating was completely tossed and he became an asshole again for no reason.
Probably right about max but Billie was added to replace Steve as being an antagonist character... Steve was just too likeable.
. . .
Even when he was an asshole I never hated Steve
@@jegvids101 Probably because while the way Steve handled the situations in S1 were unjustifiable, his motivations were relatable. Jonathan took photos of Nancy in her bedroom without permission, so yeah, Steve's antagonism is understandable. And likewise, Jonathan and Nancy suddenly spending late nights together without explaining it to him would cause jealousy, even if Steve handled it the wrong way. And even his actions were egged on by a bad company he hanged around.
Compared to Billie, who never had much reason for being a jackass in situations other than "my childhood".
The thing is Steve had motivations for being an antagonist because most of his actions were justifiable, but billie is just thrown into the mix without any explanation, he’s just an asshole because the story requires him to be an asshole, I definitely feel like his character in season 2 was underwritten and that he could’ve been more layered personality wise
i love Billy too though. he was one of my favorites
I feel like season 3 had too many stories happening at the same time, I honestly forgot about most of them
I’m glad you touched on how there doesn’t feel like much iconic imagery anymore? I was talking with some friends about this and I just feel the atmosphere of season 1 is unparalleled. I’ll never forget the look of the Byers house being strung up with Christmas lights and the alphabet on the wall, the look of the upside down and the portal leading to it, etc.
agreed ... other than the same characters solving the same problem they have already solved... the season felt separate from the others for sure.
So true.
Just watch the first season then. Create something yourself if they aren't entertaining you instead of crying
sandos91 “Crying?” I was just agreeing with him lmao. I still enjoyed the other seasons and I quite like the show I was just saying that the first season captured something special that hasn’t quite been captured again
Funny enough I am creating my own thing so :/ you tried
I really thought they were going to delve more into the deal with the Upside Down and the Mind Flayer this season. That's the one thing I've wanted to know more about since 1. 2 felt like a step in the right direction but 3 felt like a step back. No UD and it broke already established rules about it.
I found the hardest
thing the accept in this season was the underground Russian base. It was over the top
Along with a Mall that was never talked about yet it put places out of business quick like.
unless i just missed an entire episode, in the end you see the US cavalry coming thru but you don't see any of the soviets being taken away or at all. Is as if they just vanished after the portal was closed
I agree. Also, season three tried a little too hard to make the show a bit more of a comedy than it had been in seasons one and two, and those efforts mostly fell flat, IMO. Most of it's attempts at being funny just wound up being very corny and eye roll worthy.
They did such a great job making everything seem right for the time period and then made a Star Trek laser
No way! It's a total 80s reference. Ever see Spies Like Us?
the whole thing with the “new coke” went a little too long
It was funny, they could've had a better execution though, it felt like a straight up ad. They could've been more subtle about it. Coca Cola could have literally copied and pasted that scene into an advertisement and it would do just fine.
was clearly a self aware allegory to the series.
Berry Seinfeld yeah okay
Bruh Bruh yeah ok
Season 1 : The 80's
Season 3 : How we remember the 80's
Nah, I think the whole show is just how we remember the 80's, season three is just even MORE on the nose about it.
I agree. btw, i loved s3.
season one wasn't in the 80s lol
Marie Molina yes it was lol
Marie Molina what!? Lmao it definitely is
Season 1 was an homage to the 80s.
Season 3 was a parody of the 80s
Sad but true. I´ve million issues with season 3, but the one that makes me upset the most is the fact that everything was a joke this season, which doesn´t match the essence of season 1 and 2 at all. Who said that was the right approach? Netflix messed it up again.
@@mateoairaudo5535 its still way better than season 2
@@nerevarchthn6860 Respect your opinion
And that’s why Season 3 was entertaining.
It reminds me of the Rocky franchise...
Rocky 1 felt like an honest, grounded story taking place in the real world.
Rocky 4 is a wacky, over the top battle between two invincible supermen and also there's a talking robot.
The thing that made season one so powerful was how real it felt. It took the threat of a monster coming from another dimension seriously and gave us a grounded world for that threat to interact with.
Season 3 is just a collection of clichés and tropes from 80s movies. The immersiveness of the universe is gone. It may still be good, but it's no longer special.
My biggest problem with this season was how Mike’s character and his relationship with El was handled. I just..he feels like a complete jerk now. I get it, he’s traumatized, but so are the rest of the kids. I was so excited for some heartfelt moments between the two after everything that happened in one and two but all we got was…teen drama? Also the way he treated Dustin and especially Will felt so off to me. I liked the rest of it tho!
God you're behind.
I mean, if they give him a good arc in season 5 and address his mistakes then it’ll all be fine , in fact I think it’ll really help the show. Because kids make mistakes, and as long as they learn from them and fix them, that’s okay. If they don’t address it(tho I doubt they won’t ) then it’s wrong. Really really wrong.
I actually thought their behaviour and the teen drama was a pretty good representation of young teens growing up and having feelings for the first time, not knowing how to handle them, getting blind-sighted by their own infatuation, forgetting about their friends, growing out of favourite childhood games, friends getting jealous of new girlfriends/boyfriends, screwing up relationships, etc etc I like that despite all the serious dark stuff going on in their world, they're still realistically portrayed as kids entering puberty and the way those hormones mess with your head when that happens.
@@KarrieDreammind5 that's fair, I liked that part, it was very realistically portrayed. But the horror aspect of the season just wasn't there, I'm sorry I know a lot of people like this physical form of the mind flayer but I really didn't like it. Honestly I really liked the idea of the mind flayer being the puppet master, using others to do its bidding, it added a lot more impact to the horror aspect rather than just obnoxious horror. And to be frank, the exploding residue of the rats/ people just looked like bland chilli. Totally LOVED the friendship dynamics tho they NAILED that.
@@toogayforyourdrama4606 I don't know, everyone's dishing season 3 because it wasn't horrory enough. Maybe because I'm not really a horror fan but I rather enjoyed the fact that they were telling a story of a group of normal friends, trying to live a normal life for a change. I personally felt the horror aspect was still present enough (even though I agree the exploding insides looked like pasta sauce 😂).
Season 1: Most Iconic
Season 2: Strong character development.
Season 3: Most fun.
yea same
Yea I loved how they played with the characters this season
Honestly, I wouldn't even call season 3 fun. It was just cliche and... Empty for me.
@@DLxxx why tho
@@DLxxx S3 was also frustrating to watch due to how far it drops from where S1 stands. It's pathetic.
Billy had so much potential. His story was wasted.
I hadn't actually considered that, but that could have been brilliant.
They could even keep the Max and El scenes if they were reworked.
I wouldn't say wasted but his back stories should've been more fleshed out and changed him as a character.
Ikr. There wasnt even any pay off from his situation with his dad it led nowhere
He just wanted his mommy. People are only ever evil because their dads call them pussies.
he was literally racist lmfao what the fuck
Will got Jon Snow'd this season, reduced to repeating a few lines and being a glorified extra
Let's play d&d muh queen
Sandor Clegane 😂😂😂
My least favorite character
There are so many characters now, it probably gets difficult to the writers to find something relevant for everyone to say in every scene.
@@sandorclegane3658Everyone else: uh dun wunt it
I guess after the first season they realized that their top fanbase are teens, so they writed the next 2 seasons accordingly.
That’s quite insulting to teenagers. We’re not stupid
@@mayowajoshua9806 Yes you are, you will realise when you are older, you will look back and think "damn i was so stupid when i was 15" it happens to everyone, and we all think we know better while we are kids/teens
Renzo Montes at least I know the past tense of write
@@renzogm6858 Doesn't matter if they're stupid, it's dumber that they decided to write down the show just because it appeals to teens
@@renzogm6858 dude, I'm 15. Even I look back at 2 months ago, and I'm like, "holy shit I was such an idiot" That's literally how fast character growth is happening for me.
Season 1: ET
Season 2: The Exorcist
Season 3: Night of the Living Dead
Season 4: The Party is stuck in a Hotel During the Winter with Demogorgons
So, essentially The Shining?
@@mc1382 Noo. An *homage* to the shinning.
I'd say season 1 was more like Poltergeist
Stranger Things: Home Alone
Season 1 was et plus jaws
I'm surprised that no one talks about how Dustin literally killed the Russian doctor guy.
bobthepsychopotato04 wait seriously? when? i don’t remember
@@nat-gn3cq with the taser stick
bobthepsychopotato04 oooohhh yeah. yeah i guess that is pretty weird
It’s a taser he didn’t kill him
@@julienforletta7896 I'm pretty sure there was a visible black burn mark on the doctor's chest
The first season was magical. Probably one of the best stories in the history of television.
And that's the problem: when you start with quasi-perfection, everything is going downhill afterwards.
Stranger Things is now almost entirely surfing on the strength of its wonderful characters... the third season in particular has a plot that is absurd beyond belief.
Totally agree. Season 1 of ST was magically FLAWLESS. Season 2, though not on the same level, was quite good as well. Season 3 was an absolute DISGRACE. Nothing about it felt right. Yes, some people were at awe cause of its visuals, yet in regards to plot, character development, emotional weight, and plausibility, this season was extremely poor. Still, many will continue to watch this show, and ignore a tv masterpiece like Better Call Saul.
exactly, i watched season 1 just because of how suspenseful and mysterious it was AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHERE WILL IS, in season 2, there were at least some suspenseful and creepy moments. But in season 3, they lost the main point of the story, *The Friendship* Mike and Lucas treated Dustin and Will like shits, none of the characters had the main focus, they just showed and told us EVERYTHING without letting us figure it out WHYY!! the only moments I liked was the scoops troops funny moments, all of them coming together in the mall and joining the dots and the emotionally intense scene. They ruined Mike's character as a friend and presented Max as she doesn't care about anyone.
@@rupantihoque1059 yeah, Season 3 was truly horrible and really damaged the series as a hole
In all fairness, season 1 wasn't that unusual or anything. It was very very average.
I went expecting something very good, after hearing such great reviews about this show, but was highly disappointed.
You know what is an actually great sci fi show? Dark.
@summerisgone Wasn't there a goddamn cliffhanger in the end of season 1?
As someone with sisters (much, much older sisters) who were the age of the Stranger Things cast in those same years... the outfits are 100% accurate. I have pictures of pure 1980s fashion cringe in the form of their preteen and teen years. The only thing was Max and Eleven were more boyish than girls--even Tomboy--generally dressed. They usually would do that dorky ass side-pony tail for their hair, too.
Haha, yes, the side pony tail. Some other girls' fashion trends of the time that I remember: knotted friendship bracelets, beaded safety pins attached to one's shoe laces, 2 pairs of slouchy contrasting-color socks, one on top of the other arranged on the ankle so both colors could be seen equally... Jean mini skirts, acid or stonewash jeans with tapered-in ankles, rolled to make them tight at the bottom, exposing the lower ankle (with slouched socks), hugely oversized t-shirt, sweat shirt, or sweater, over a mini skirt, bike shorts, or stirrup pants.
well I was there at the time and to me the clothing in the show is way too over-the-top. The 80s really was the time were clothes were the least showy. it was basically people with jeans and t-shirts
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 yea its like if a show from 2049 was set in 2019 and all the characters were wearing billie-eilish-esque ridiculously oversized streetwear
LOL
And the narrator admits that we wasn't there so he's can't judge so why is he judging?
They went full Netflix.
NEVER GO FULL NETFLIX, MAN!
NEVER DO IT
GAME OVER MAN
First they Netflixed Black Mirror now they Netflixed their own Netflix show 😭
And now they'll wait until peak hype for season 4, then cancel it.
Season 1: Will‘s getting kidnapped.
Season 2: Will‘s getting possessed.
Season 3: Will‘s getting ignored.
Season 4: ...?
Season 4: Will's getting [Non Existance]
LMFAO! GOOD ONE.
Will is getting his groove back
@@fellowhuman8682 The Wise's New Groove
I feel like y'all are missing the point he was supposed to be ignored since it was how he felt
One of the other problems with this season is the fact that the upside down is only included in like 2 scenes
And the characters aren't physically there. It's more like mentally.
Billy's fate was sort of written in stone...his name begins with B.
Barb, then Bob, then Billy. It couldn't be anyone else.
Stranger Bhings
Yep. I predicted it right after Bob's death.
Bim Bopper
Plus Benny and Brenner.
And Benny
Eventually we will find out that all these seasons are D&D campaigns. It’s all make believe - a never ending story.
Duuuuuuuuuuuude that kinda makes sense like it's one bad roll from the bad end
That's lazy writing. It's the same concept of Rick being in a coma in The Walking Dead.
They’ve never left Mike’s basement.
A never ending ssttooooorrrrryyyy
I- you- I uh- *inhales* wow
Season 3 was good but I really miss the mystery/horror element that was front and center for the first two seasons. Really hope it comes back.
S3 was so silly and over the top at times that it felt like a completely different universe. I don't know if they can go back without it feeling jarring.
@@Nathan-tz5fr What's so silly about it?
No it wasn’t good at all
@@leeisloveleeislife5074 the entire plot really the whole thing with the Russians was over the top and made no sense and went from a horror/mystery/drama story to a teen romantic comedy
@@chrismarple There were plenty of dramatic moments in the last episodes and more than enough horror in the whole season. Teen romantic comedy was like only in the first few episodes.
Season one: No Will in the group
Season two: No El in the group
Season three: No Dustin in the group
Why can't they just all stick together and play d&d???
I guess cuz of girls and mind flayers
I guess the Scoop Troop is now a part of The Neverending Story.
I mean..have you ever really tried to have a long campaign?! There's almost always someone missing.
That’s gonna be the last episode.
Its cause Lucas is black
Best Performances each season.
Season 1: Eleven
Season 2: Will
Season 3: Billy
Best Performances each season.
Season 1: Hopper
Season 2: Hopper
Season 3: Hopper... :(
Hopper was acting his heart out in season 3, too bad he had to act in a way that was inconsistent with his earlier seasons
@@JW-di5eb Such a shame. Hopper has always been my favourite character in the adult group, but the writers just made him become a parody of himself. So frustrating.
@@mateoairaudo5535 Hopper, Mike and Nancy had this frustrating annoying look the whole season, dont know if it was the writing or the actors.
@@mateoairaudo5535 yeah I couldn't really take Hopper seriously this season. The writers have kinda made him into a joke.
I still love the show a huge amount, but I really could feel there was something different about it once I got into season 3. The thing that I noticed the most is that I was almost starting to dislike Eleven at parts, because of how much the show overused her. Thought to myself “None of the other characters seem capable or important now. What’s the point of them when Eleven can just do everything?” It annoyed me how every other characters seemed weak unless she was there, but that’s just my opinion.
Yeah and she always cry and break down most of the scene. Which was sooooo unecessary and annoying
Yep so true!
In Season 2, I'm pretty sure Billy's purpose was to challenge Steve's popularity and to serve as his foil. Both have roots as douchey jocks, but one was slowly moving beyond that characterization, while the other was doubling down on it. You could argue the effectiveness of this, but I'm pretty sure that's what the writers were going for and it mostly worked for me.
Agreed, but they abandoned that for unnecessary fuckery.
That's what I thought as well, although they confused me a bit with their half assed attempt at fleshing his character out and humanizing him, for no reason. If he was simply a foil, they shouldn't have made the attempt to make the audience empathize with him through illustrating his past as an abused child merely lashing out. He was also far too cruel. Sociopathic even. That's not a "mean character who deep down is actually just dealing with childhood trauma" kind of character behavior. He was handled very poorly in season two, in my opinion.
@@Cristov123 yeah they really needed to humanize him a bit more like the other commenters said, or at least delve into his trauma a little more indepth, really show why he's so fucked up, cause his dad is really a huge HUGE piece of shit. Ah well.
@WinnieTheGrizzly Good way to put it, Steve the cartoony HS "Bad" guy. The one who gets pie in the face while the Nerds laugh, or the guy who pulls up the bucket at the well and goes "ANDY...YOU GOONIE!" Billy a more realistic description on douchebaggery...
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