Drake vs. Kendrick: A Full Breakdown
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- A complete song-by-song analysis of the feud between Drake & Kendrick Lamar. Who won the beef?
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finally two white boys from the midwest are talking about this 😩🙏
This is what the culture was needing! 🙏😫
Gaming
“Midwest white boys is what the culture feelin’” - Kendrick Lamar
HELL NO
You know something isnt legit hip hop till that happens..
Can’t wait for my two favorite white boys to break this down
Jake paul and logan paul are a different channel
can’t wait for my two favorite white boys to break it down
@@xarildri1302can't wait for my two favorite white boys to break it up
my exact thought when i saw this lmao
They're WHITE?!
riley i like purple
Get over here. 🔙💥💥💥 Not gonna read your texts 😎
get it? cause red and blue make purple
“She like ‘Riley I like purple’,
So I blue Graydon out and I left him on Brad
Get it? Like Dignan?”
@@FELLABORIS+2
Lil Mabu is the real winner of this beef
🎶 _"BBL Diggy, BBL Diggaaay..."_ 🎶
Fax we want those drums😂
@@pemp9606preach🙏🏼🗣️🗣️
Imagine diggy grinding to that shit 😳
@@FELLABORISaccording to this graphic 95 percent of you aren’t picturing diggy edgemaxxing to this right now.
@@FELLABORIS leaving a like for that
Mabu got you wiped down, Tom MacDonald got you wiped down 🗣🗣
Mabu got you wiped down, Donald got you wiped down, Ronald got you wiped down
😂
"ISLAND BOYS GOT YOU WIPED DOWN" 👹
Seinfeld’s got you wiped down 🫵
Costanza’s got you wiped down 😤
LMFAO got you wiped down, lin-manuel got you wiped down
meet the zazumbas
LMAO
Nah it's a diss it would be the full Zazumba-Zaffodil
Wouldn't it be the Zaffodils?
@@blunderbass851 He wouldn't need to, Dignan Zazumba-Zaffodil has done enough by himself, he doesn't need to mention anyone else.
@@blunderbass851the Zaxumbazaffodil family dropped the "zaffodil", have you even watched their videos a hundred times over?
Mother I Sober is also in part about generational black trauma, so the fact that Drake didn’t understand the song really furthered Kendrick’s point that he’s just stealing from the culture
Drake did a LOT to illustrate Kendrick's point that he isn't of the culture. Tupac AI. Putting Tupac's ring in the video. Mocking Kendrick for rapping like he's trying to get the slaves freed when he's actually talking about very real modern black issues which is a big part of what audiences appreciate about him. Telling Kendrick he isn't gang affiliated (as if he would know) and listing off a bunch of rappers who "actually bang a set" like a weirdo. Telling his mom Rick Ross is being "racist". Having his white mom say "maybe you shouldn't say" and leaning haaaard into the n-word which he says more in that song than any other song of his. "Ok we get it. The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice. We know you like to put jin in your juice." Buying chains from hip hop figures and then displaying them like he snatched them. Dissing Pharrell in the first place, when he is one of the most universally loved people in hip hop and a total square. You don't beef with someone like Pharrell. You're just being a bully and the streets don't like bullies. Using his money to buy up hip hop memorabilia to take to Canada like a tourist (or colonizer). Smashing the GKMC van is even an example of him being out of touch with iconography that hip hop culture cares about. Flipping the Michael Jackson thing when the topic became about PDF files... Kendrick never used the MJ angle for that because Black folks (generally speaking) don't believe MJ did the things he was accused of. But Drake wouldn't know that, so... Thinking Kendrick's point is about him being biracial. And he goes on and on on and on and on....
@@erica_emblack people don’t believe the MJ accusations?
@joeljs9778 on average, nah. And if he did that was white Michael anyway. He a different person from young black Michael with the angel voice.
@joeljs9778 personally, I'm skeptical however if he is he's with his Maker and vengeance will be His. Posthumously, I'll just enjoy the 🎶
@@joeljs9778no we dont
"Always rapping like you tryna get the slaves freed" is when Drake lost. Absolutely out of touch with the roots of the genre, proves that Drake is not hiphop
Right? Calling people slaves, but not only that, actin like trying to free slaves is somehow a bad thing 😂
Also proves he learned nothing from the criticism he received for his "American slaves" line in "Slime You Out"
of course Drake's "D" line is next to his line about kids. Can't keep that thing away from minors even in his music.
It's crazy cause he literally gets called out in MTG for leaking it himself for pushing his agenda further of allegedly luring women, but then in FMP6 he boasts about it. Like, that was clearly not the flex he thought it was lol
@@Pyxyty Yeah, dude is weird. People keep giving him a pass, too. Just like Kanye. I don't care how 'good' of an artist someone is(I'm not a fan of Drake or Kanye) if they're creeping on underage girls, or being antisemitic and all the other shit kanye says, like, nah, they're done. Stop giving them support.
He's always trying to strike a chord, and it was A Minor
@@STARPHASE I've been consistently hating on Drake (more than people are right now) for years and have only had people agree with me since it's been subconsciously deemed societally acceptable. Ugh
@@PyxytyFMP6?
dignan i like purple
Get over here
Diggy is gonna blow your back out and leave you on Red
you know what he has to do now
@@raisinsmakemeuncomfortable6893 i get it, cus blue and red make purple
Then diggy blew on the fire and ate the red meat
Graydon: Makes a ridiculous statement
Riley: “yeah, maybe, i don’t think that’s true though”
Graydon: “Yeah me neither”
cant believe kendrick revealed that riley is drakes 3rd child and he adopted dignan when he came back from the war
you been putting in pain on the youtube streets since like 2017, major respect 🫡
can't be, riley is like 30 years older than drake and dignan is 92
@@movinsloppyfr I’ve seen Dat in everyone’s comments since forever. My goat
It’s insane that Kendrick recorded 10 diss tracks at once and updated them depending on how Drake came back at him
I like to imagine it was all just one incredibly long song that he cut up into various tracks
kendrick on that choose your own adventure shit
@@gracejordan110 I saw an interview where someone close to Kdot said euphoria was originally 19 minutes long, and I for one would LOVE to listen to it.
nvm drake's family, meet the grahams was so tough it ruined my relationship with my own parents
I'm pretty sure it ruined my relationship with my future kids
I can't even speak to my Uncle Dennis anymore 😭
@@exzyyd392yeah, I wanted to have kids but now I’m gonna have safe sex for the rest of my life. Gonna do what Dennis Graham should have done
@@fangal12 Shame on you Dennis
spill the tea
personally my favorite part of this beef was when j cole was transphobic to kendrick, who is not trans
cringe transphobic apologizer (lame trans fella bar) VS based confident trans ally (creator of auntie diaries)
was actually so disappointed by j cole doing that, was so unneeded
Kendrick: "Yo, J. You don't want this smoke, bow out."
J. Cole: "You know what, fair enough. My bad."
What did he say?
Cole is only relevant if RDC drops a skit or if he makes another stunt every few years (trying to interview Lil Pump)
imagine the video is literally just Riley and Graydon breakdancing.
Okay I did
how did you predict thatttt
...to BBL Drizzy
Riley dressed as Drake and Graydon as Kendrick doing a breakdance battle is a must now
you’re never gonna believe this
"yo third shit was massive" i love coles music but that line kills me everytime
Cole undefeated when it comes to poop lines
@@Danny-nw5kcCounterpoint:
Ice cream (Ice cream), scooping (Baow)
Shittin' (Shittin'), poopin'
Huh, shittin', huh, poopin' (Look, ayy)
@@Danny-nw5kc THINK THEY THE SHIT THEY AINT EVEN FARTED YET 🗣
i feel like the goat @@exzyyd392
@@Danny-nw5kci let you feel like you the shit but boy you can’t outfart me 🗣️
the tupac interview was previously unreleased and when it was shown to kendrick he got tupac's mother's blessing to use it on tpab
where did u see this? genuine question i want to read about it/watch it
Any use of someone's voice without their express permission is gravedigging. Family permission is better than no permission but at its core its the same thing. "Don't dig up the dead" should be the standard, not digging them up *respectfully*. Tupac serves an important role in the message of tpab so for the sake of art, gravedigging was what Kendrick decided was needed. Simple as that. No need to try to make it seem like a selfless act or anything. If someone finds it weird then its fine for them to feel that way.
none of these diss tracks hold a candle to dignan's alphabetical XXL freestyle (where he went from "a" all the way to "z")
never forget xylophone
everything flows perfectly in his stream of consciousness freestyle raps
But nobody's talking about dignan's freestyle here but you, sooo...
did Drake listen to Duckworth though? cause Top DIDNT rob Kendrick's dad lol
I was just thinking about that, the whole point of the song is that he DIDN'T rob him, like that's the most important piece of the song lmaooooooo
it does say that he had robbed the place before though
@@kadenpj but never his dad
he clearly also didn't understand Mother I sober. he just isn't great at understanding songs
@@kadenpj "He stuck up the place before back in 84" right? they weren't in LA yet, they were in Chicago if I remember correctly. They moved to Compton when kendrick was born, 1987.
I love that Drake said he would never look at a teenager like that when he's also got an old lyric that goes "high school pic you was even bad then"... Like, the dude is so into teenagers he found a way to sexualize an adult woman as a teenager. I believe what Kendrick says about Drake because I also believe what Drake has said about Drake, and it sounds to me like they are saying the same thing: Drake is attracted to minors.
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Drake did not learn last time he mentioned wives, it never goes over well for him
My favorite part was the long black screen at 1:07:30
Yeah what was that about lol
thank god yall saw it too i thought i was having a stroke
me 3
me 4
me 5
Drake quite literally admits multiple times throughout the beef that Kendrick is a better rapper than him.
Which I would say is objectively true
Hes a better writer and yeah ofc drizzy would admit that doesnt mean drizzy is a bad writer plus he wipes kdot by numbers
@@Camothor10 "Not Like Us" has broken the alltime record for biggest single day streams for a solo hiphop song in Spotify history though
@@deceiver444 one song
@@Camothor10 it just shows that if Kdot was into making club like songs he can get the numbers but he been more known for his lyrics and deeper message. Kendrick can play on drakes field of music but Drake can’t play on Kendrick’s
this beef was almost as good as the dolly parton-bruce springsteen beef of 2006, it simply lacked the violence and incarcerations.
wtf happened will Dolly Parton and Bruce Springstin
@@LiamKaplan-xe2ju you’re too young to know
Dolly’s track “Born to Run to ya Mama” Ethered that Fake Gangsta
@@lox7923born to run>
you're not wrong
Dignan got a weird case, why is he around?
CERTIFIED LOVER BOY, CERTIFIED PDF FILE
This beef reminds me of that time Graydon had beef with OJ Simpson on April 10th. Safe to say THAT didn't end well!
Graydon is innocent the glove didn’t fit
let's hope kendrick doesn't do the same stuff as oj simpson too
holy fuck its mewze
@widget6011 Not on his hands, true. But we all know how it really happened, so…
Not Like Us literally played at my high school's Prom like 4 days ago and everybody went goose mode
Not Like Us was checkmate tbh
What’s goose mode
Oh I really wish it existed when I was in highschool I hope y'all had a blast with that
drake is my name, rapping is my game
diss me diss me now you gotta kiss me
Kendrick Lamar? More like Kendrick Lame-ar
I see Paris I see France I see Kendricks underpants
K-Dot! More like K-Not!
Typo. You added an extra P.
Finally! I can have an opinion on the Drake and Kendrick beef! Thanks Dignan!
The Fantano Theorem
Its so weird how Drake acts like he ran up on Pharrell and snatched his chain when he bought it at an auction. Drake, you BOUGHT them, you dont get to act like you are hard because you bought some jewelry at an auction. Another fun fact about Air Drake, he doenst even own it, it s still owned and operated by CargoJet, he just entered a partnership deal with them for him to customize it and use it as a private jet for promotion. i also, mostly agree with you that the people saying "drake told on himself" are unfair. BUT the "Im too fanous to not get cuaght" shit is probably THE DUMBEST thing ive heard someone say ever.
yeah, that line is right up there with "You would be a worthy competitor if I was really a predator"
he also doesnt seem to see the awful optics of him hoarding these hiphop memorabilia and taking them out the US. some real colonizer ish right there
Kdot got the Pulitzer prize for music and now he's gone for the Pulitzer for journalism
My interpretation of the "bring back puff" line has always been that Drake brought back Kendrick's biggest idol, Tupac, and Kendrick should bring back Puff Daddy (The Diddler) because drake does the same things that Diddy was exposed for and thus Puff is an inspiration to Drake. Idek thats just me
Doesn't that line have to do with Diddy allegedly slapping Drake in the face in 2014 and Chubbs not doing shit about it?
@@DynastyLuminous46 probly that too. He rlly had a quintuple entendre on that shit fr
i think it also means "do you want me to bring back the violence of puff's heyday" because diddy was deeply involved back when people were actually getting shot on the regular over rap beef.
There's also the rumors that Puff was behind 2pac's death. If Drake is gonna imitate Pac, someone might decide he should commit to the character a bit more. He also says something similar on Not Like Us.
@@VicDealio I think it might be out of character for Kendrick to explicitly link Pac's death to Drake's symbolic one, but he could still allude to just Diddy's violent role in the Pac and BIG beef
i just love the image of a non hivemind fan watching this going “lol how’d you not know who daft punk is”
me watching this fr
please where did this bit start?? 😭
I will never forget the infamous RAP beef between Dignan and Anthony Fantano’s roommate Cal Cuchesta.
Although Diggy’s diss track won the Grammy for best Hate Speech it was all settled once Cal pantsed Dignan during his acceptance speech exposing that he was wearing PB & J undies. Everyone pointed and laughed.
Truly one for the ages
It's worth noting that the Tupac family estate gave Kendrick permission to do the interview bit, and they filed a cease and desist with Drake. It's clear that one of them was more permissible than the other.
Kendrick even asked Tupac's mom if it was okay.
sorry but its infuriating this is missed with rhe comparisons to taylor made and the interview kendrick did on tpab, is that kendrick asked and got permission from tupac's estate and family to do it while drake did it entirely distastefully without any consent or asking
Right
they also didn’t talk about The Riddler aka “EbonyPrince2k24” who has shown multiple pieces of evidence that they are in possession of everything from the meet the grahams cover art, and who’s very existence made drake and dj akademiks retract their statement claiming that the items were stolen out of a suitcase
@@SaltSpirits yea.. but ebonyprince2k24 dropped the ball by making too many weird posts.
obviously he has some evidence, he showed some. but his yapping made people turn off lol
I think the point is moreso about kendricks vanity and presumptuousness. even though it's a great aspect of the album it definitely does seem a bit self-absorbed to make something like that when you look at it from a distance. idk that drake is tapped in enough to really make that argument coherently though.
Regardless of if you get consent from the family, you can't get consent from the man himself. So to make him say stuff that he might not agree with after he's dead is weird regardless. Both are weird for that imo
It's weird hearing Graydon say he's sick to his stomach LMAO. I really expected him to say that he wanted like a terrorist attack to come out of this.
Wow almost like you don't know these people in real life! I did NOT commit arson in New Mexico the night Pac died
that's why they had Graydon on, not Dignan. Dignan would have said something like that
@@jurgnobs1308graydons from the bottom really like that
“You cheesin fam” is the sole highlight.
Saying "they're probably gonna call me a pedophile" is such a self diss. You're called a pedophile so often that you just know it's gonna keep happening? Maybe reflect and realize why you are called that so often lol
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kendrick deadass had me staying up till 4 am for a week straight
Go outside
@@RealBrizz u want me to go outside at 4 am? i think you mean go to bed and i was trying but the anticipation of kendrick dropping another diss/drakes response kept me up
“Kendrick has disliked this guy for a long time, and when he realised there was a greater purpose to it, he did it.” - that’s it 🔥
Drake was lucky that Kendrick dropped Euphoria and Riley didn’t have to step in
E-40 and his cousin B-Legit were in a rap group called The Click which makes that bar even crazier.
I was surprised they didn’t know that
“Best work is a light pack” Daylyte allegedly wrote “God Plans” for Drake.
And Back To Back
i love how whenever graydon makes a point riley just stares at him like he's just waiting for his turn to speak so he can demolish everything graydon said
When y’all realize what kdot did with that “Joe-Hale Osteen” bar you will crap your britches. There is a reason he pronounced the word “HALE” in the middle of Joel Osteens name. He’s combining two names for a bar that has several different meanings. Listen to the pronunciation, hear the explanations, then come back to us. Y’all are doing yourself a disservice by just writing that line off as a mistake. Kdot makes plenty of mistakes, he’s human. That bar wasn’t one of them.
was just about to come and say this lmao
@@cgant-pe3yl my man!
1:07:30 Hivemind black screen checkpoint, make sure to hydrate
J. Cole somewhere in Spain sippin on some juice and watching the sunset rn
somewhere a hivemind viewer in Philly is rolling their eyes at the 1 gorillianth peaceful J Cole joke they've read today
@@kamphychair i hope so
@@j4yexe it's me
@@kamphychair gorillianth
@@kamphychairnow kith
I think a lot of people have overlooked how serious Kendrick took 6:16 in that first verse. He talked about how he believed he was going into a war that he needed God's support for. I truly think he knows something and this was him trying to expose it to the masses, and I think drake knows if Kendrick knows more then he will definitely reveal it
am i crazy? Kendrick clearly says "Hale". You can call it awkward or forced, but it's obviously a deliberate choice to mix the names.
Especially considering the line comes immediately after talking about "not knowing what God's considering" which could easily be about that AI sermon preach. Absolutely
I Really doubt that with all the sixth sense references between Euphoria and Not Like Us, Kendrick wouldn't know the name of the main actor. Definitely intentional
i agree, intentional but kind of a flop line
Riley interpreted both sides really well and I appreciate that.
its crazy how they said at least he got duckworth right when he actually got that one wrong too
My favorite self-snitching line of the whole beef is Drake saying the beef was good exercise, "good to get the pen working." 😆😆😆
The way I phrased it was "Meet the Grahams felt like it was steeped in 1800's gothic writing mixed with psychological horror from modern times". It was malicious, made to dig deep, like cutting someone with a rusty bread knife. Genuinely felt cold in my soul
i think this beef taught us a very valuable lesson, you can pick your friends, you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friends noses 🤣 !!
J cole type bar 🔥🔥
riley is unfortunately wrong about not like us not having longevity i see that being the song of the summer
I was looking for this comment, they dont understand the chokehold that certified loverboy/ a minor bar has on everyone even now at least in my circles
You guys should try guessing the rapper from the weird lyric but its just dignans felony list.
Why aren’t you picturing diggy grinding 🤔
The Hell's Angels fought a biker war with the Bandidos in Canada that caused the death of 160 people. It's called the Quebec Biker War and is a tad more significant than anything with Mick Jagger lol.
Maybe the real beef was the drakes we kendricked along the way
I do think Kendrick’s line in Not Like Us about Atlanta is even more damning when you realize he just did it to 4batz, co-signing him & taking his style. Then signing to OVO for one album deal that released the friday Kendrick dropped. Even 4batz posted something along the lines of “i just dropped, i can’t even get 24 hours @KendrickLamar” which he deleted, probably from an OVO exec.
some of us really are refining uranium in puerto rico and no one nose
1:20:14 NOOOO YOU GUYS DRAKE DID NOT GET DUCKWORTH!!!
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Drake says Dot's dad got robbed by Top but the end of Ducky is where Kendrick describes how Top chose not to rob the store and kill Kendrick's dad because of him being a nice guy. It's another instance where one of Drake's ghostwriters that listened to Kendrick before they started writing for Drake thinks they kinda remember what that was about but Drizzy's got a no Kendrick policy on the aux or sum in there
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Very interesting that Drignance has yet to respond to Drake's claims. Such drama! Such thespionage! Oh dearie!
Oh me oh my
i think the “friendly fade” line is a preface to “what is it the braids” as a fade can kinda be worn by any race but braids are specifically part of black culture
I like this theory!
Another thing I haven't seen anyone mention about the beef is that Kendrick dropped Euphoria on a Tuesday and Drake was on the song Tuesday by ILOVEMAKONNEN, who signed to OVO, and then practically disappeared because of mismanagement.
Side note, I feel bad for Ko, because after Tuesday, the only other song he was on that got big was Lil Peep's I've Been Waiting, featuring Ko and Fall Out Boy, and that collaboration only even happened because Peep blew up in popularity after he died, and Peep and Ko were really close. Falling Down, the Lil Peep ft XXXTentacion song that got super popular was originally a duet between Peep and Ko about their relationship, called Sunlight On Your Skin. The chorus literally even has Peep address Ko by name (Ko, let's watch the rain as it's falling down), and yet, the version that got popular was the double-posthumous bullshit the label put out with X to capitalize on their deaths.
Sorry to ramble, I just wish things could've gone better for Ko, and for Peep. RIP Gus
when do they kiss can anyone send a timetamp
I understand the TPAB Tupac stuff & Drake AI stuff comparison (even tho I think computer generating vs scrapbooking is already enough to differentiate them largely, artistically) I think the main difference - and what Kendricks whole point through all his songs are - he is a part of that culture. he was born in it, raised in it, and respected in it. even if it was not that great of an album, people in his community would have been fine w it, bc the culture respects Kendrick for what he represents. Kendrick's whole point, is that Drake represents the antithesis of hip-hop and the culture behind it.
if you turn to page 616 in Stephen King’s Pet Sematary what do you see… DIGNAN’S PICTURE #nostoneunturned #drakenan
I know it's a meme that Kendrick is writing quadruple entendres, but some of the bars legitimately are that deep.
6 :16 in LA starts with "Off-white Sunseeker at the marina."
1. It's a kind of yacht.
2. Drake is a deadbeat dad (son seeker).
3. It's a reference to the story of Icarus.
4. It's a possible allusion to Lil Yachty and Daylyt, two of Drake's ghostwriters.
Meanwhile Drake is spitting "You're short, lol"
Also:
Drake is biracial but isn't a part of Black culture (he's off-white)
Drake is a sunseeker because he's trying to co-opt Black culture, aka trying to appear Blacker whether that be appearance wise or mannerisms
idk i might be reaching but it does work
6:16 is my favorite track from the beef because every line in that 1st verse is packed with meaning - love the Raphael bar as well. I also love how whenever he mentions God, the synths come in. Elevates the track so much and shows how much thought goes into his songwriting.
I am a vintage clothing nerd so I have some information on the Tommy Hilfiger is a racist rumor. It stems from an alleged interview and email chain between Tommy Hilfiger and Oprah Winfrey in 1999. The rumor goes that Tommy claimed his clothes were for the white upperclass, and if he knew black people would wear them, he wouldn’t have made the clothes so nice. The thing is, this has never been verified. In fact, Oprah said she hadn’t even met or spoken to Tommy Hilfiger at that time. In 2007, Tommy did make an appearance on Oprah’s show where they discussed the rumors. It was explained that no one has been able to figure out where these rumors came from.
In my opinion, the reason Tommy took a big hit in the 2000s was over branding, over saturation, and poor quality control. It just became uncool to have a giant Hilfiger flag on your jacket because that logo was everywhere. By 2014, vintage streetwear made a huge comeback and Tommy was able to cash in once more by rereleasing every slightly cool Tommy piece from the 80s and 90s. This ruined the appeal of the brand once more with an abundance of the same over branded product. Now no one really wants Tommy gear. Not the new stuff or the old stuff.
Dear Hank, I’m sorry that man is your father
Well I thought this was a new viewer friendly video and then there was the Pulitzer Prize for Fucking.
Damn that Ak line is crazy, especially now that he has been sued for defamation and sexual assault.
Wow I hadn’t heard anything about this until this comment, thank you
Only difference between Drake’s AI and Kendrick’s 2 Pac interview is Kendrick got permission from Tupacs estate
I think Drake referencing “Mother I Sober” was his attempt at going as dark as Kendrick did on Meet the Grahams and just not having the awareness (or ability) of why it worked so well when Kendrick did it
58:15 He’s referencing the Taylor Made Freestyle:
You better have a motherfuckin' quintuple entendre on that shit
Some shit I don’t even understand, like
That shit better be crazy, we waitin' on you
Kendrick cleverly mixes up the two names on purpose so that when listening on a surface level, this line doesn’t make sense (because Haley Joel Osment and Joel Osteen are obviously two different people). In other words, this line is “Some shit I don’t even understand”, as requested by Drake.
However, when the line is broken down, we can find at least 5 different interpretations for what Kendrick is saying (a.k.a, a quintuple entendre):
1. Kendrick not knowing if he’s battling Drake’s alleged ghostwriters or and A.I. generated song.
2. A reference to Christian pastor Joel Osteen with a play on the Christian Holy Ghost, and how he has famously been impersonated by AI
3. A reference to the two Haley Joel Osment movies, A.I. and The Sixth Sense, where the antagonists are literally A.I. and ghost
4. Deliberate confusion of the two names, which plays on the idea that Kendrick doesn’t know who he is battling.
5. A direct response to the last bar in Drake’s “Taylor Made Freestyle”, in which Drake request a quintuple entendre along with a line that he wouldn’t even understand
i think he just messed up
@@joepbijlholt3315ong they be reaching on insane levels damn 😭
If this is true, then this is proof on why rappers should NOT be too technical (Looking at you Eminem). People are gonna be confused, and think the bar is trash because of the level of thinking you have to do to understand it. There's a limit to how clever a bar can be, while also trying to make it sound good.
I love Kendrick to death and still no one can convince me he didn't just mess up here
This feels like when your buddy has been sick and didn't come to school for a week, then he wants to talk about the big fight that happened but the middle school news cycle has already moved on
1:20:50 but he didnt even do that. duckworth is about how ducky (kendrick's dad) gave extra chicken and treated ant (top dawg) nice, thus AVOIDING getting robbed. its just like his slip up in referencing mother i sober. somehow he got the exact opposite of what happened lol
The people getting duckworth wrong while also calling it one of his best songs are making me question how much people actually care about the music
it's my favorite thing ever how there are like 5 lines worth discussing from each song of drake's and like every single line from kenny's lmfao. the difference in skill is insane to me.
yall know how i know FOR A FACT that that drake wrote "the heart 6"? cuz it ASS
This would have been the perfect opportunity to have TMG on the show and have Noel give his rundown. Idk what cody would do tho lol, probably just sit in the back like a lil puppy dog
Obsessed with graydon saying “albethem” instead of “albeit” as if it changes depending on plurality
this is DIGNAN. do not misname my king
Didn't expect you two to condemn Drake and Kendrick and side with Yuno Miles! I did not commit manslaughter against 3 pregnant women in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1999. Banger video as always.
bbl diggy
Would have loved to hear more about the extracurriculars in this beef like other rappers diss tracks and the shooting outside of Drake's mansion! Really good takes all around, Riley really did paint a tapestry of words in my brain that awoke the revolutionary sleeper agent within. Thanks.
YUNO MILES GOT YOU WIPED DOWN
Why do Riley’s hands look like that I’m so scared
Scooby Doo villain aah hands
Murderin’ hands
theyre just hands how are they supposed to look? weirdo
How much Benadryl did u take
Meet The Grahams is a play on Meet The Browns, a TV show produced for and by (FUBU) black people.
Me personally I think Yuno miles won this beef easily he broke them down syllable by syllable what a legend
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1:07:27 WHAT WAS THAT i know there’s lore-building going on but that one made me really reflect on myself
I know this might be a stretch but I haven't stopped thinking about it since someone pointed it out. A show came out in 2004 called Rocket Power and they often use the word shoobie to reference tourists who visit their city in Ocean Shores, California. This city is actually a real place on the west coast of Cali. In the first episode, the characters refer to the new white kid who moves there as a shoobie. So if this is what Kendrick was also referring to in Euphoria, he's basically calling Drake a tourist who doesn't belong.
Not a stretch at all… go back and listen to King’s Dead (Kendrick, Future, and Jay Rock)
Funny how you guys are now acting like you weren’t in Drake’s experience shower. 🤔
it was awesome
He meant to say what he said about Joel Olsteen.. HE SAID “JOHALE” Olsteen.. meaning who is it Joel Olsteen OR Joel Hale Osmand that he was rapping against! NO MISTAKES FROM KENDRICK😜
Sad you guys didn’t do an in-depth analysis of BBL Drizzy
so glad you guys did this video! euphoria randomly popped into my youtube recommendations and the way I looped it like I've never looped a song before. I'd never properly checked out Kendrick but I'm obsessed with that man's voice rn. Drake makes some radio bops that I've heard before obviously but I haven't been interested enough to check out his disses/retorts.
euphoria and Not Like Us are going to be songs I listen to a lot, but listening to meet the grahams feels like I'm helping power up a curse for Drake's bloodline or smth though 😂
so appreciate the deep dive you both did and the context added. love the hivemind channel ❤
I don't think there's anything wrong with the ending of TPAB. If anything it shows how the voices of important people can be used in art respectfully vs in a shallow and low-effort way (Taylor Made Freestyle). Plus, I'm pretty sure Kendrick didn't make Tupac say anything he didn't say in real life to the public. I guess as an artist if you want to decide if your inclusion of other artists that have passed would have been approved of by the individual; is your work in line with their values? Is it conceptually stimulating? Does it sound good? Things Mortal Man is, and Taylor Made Freestyle is not (to me, at least). I do understand the value of that track for Drake in provoking Kendrick, though. I just think Drake was mistaken thinking he could go bar for bar with an angered Kendrick Lamar.
Plus he got permission from Tupac's mother, which is not equal to getting it from Tupac of course, but it's the next best thing. Drake clearly didn't do that.
I think Kendrick heard family matters before he released euphoria. so many lines in this song are telling warning drake that if he releases he will end him.I think 6:16 in LA is confirmation of it. When he says he might do a show a day, it sounds like he will drop a song each day. When he says bring back puff, i think he is referring to the rumor that Puffy had tupac killed.
Bro in the white cap is diabolically funny rotfl
English is not my first language and I don't know nothing about rap music. I didn't understand shit (great video I whatched it from start to finish)