Because I know it will be asked about - The predatory blade is not included because it's bad as a thrall weapon due to they will mostly use the heavy attack which does little to no damage, to get the most out of this weapon you need to use light attacks and you just don't have that control on thralls. (Pred blade took over 5+ mins to kill either of my bosses and they mostly used heavy attacks)
oh wow...thanks...I've been making that mistake. Funny thing is, I usually upgraded the thralls weapon from the Star Metal Mace to the Predatory Blade or Blade of the Adventurer.
@@KiahOnFireOfficial I needed a "disposable hero" yesterday, so I just used a Cimmerian Fighter II. After all the chasing of theoretical perfection, I was surprised to see that, with the star metal mace, an undistinguished follower could hold his own quite well. It seems like whatever the maces lack in raw damage, they make up for in consistent, fast attacks.
Have you considered making an updated one of these videos for Siptah? Interested to see how well the new weapons like Annoying Shard hold up on a thrall.
So depending on what your goal is for your thrall. For jsut maintaining aggo and keeping the mob from hitting you I recommend a venom war axe. The aggro systems works off amount of hits, not damage inflicted. So when they use that there are 3 sources or damage tripling the "hits" - Glad festering axe was mentioned.
The one handed axes and maces seem to work well, with followers typically doing combos and not standing around very much. I like the Black Ice Broadsword a lot, and also tend to use the dragonbone weapons for thralls a fair bit. I have a relic hunter with Aja's Bane, and she tends to get work done in a hurry. Of all the hammers, I'd say that Bal-Teor's seems like the best one. Because it doesn't weigh anything, I usually carry one for contingencies. Spears, while they don't do the most damage or kill the fastest, seem to allow thralls to not take much damage, due to the stagger/knockback. The big hammers and axes are really variable. They can look really great sometimes, but other times go long periods without any effective attacks.
There's some really great weapons out there for sure, the usage has improved a lot too due to there bug fixes on the AI. I remember late last year struggling to get a thrall to use some of the weapons without them spacing out, but now it's not an issue. :)
@@KiahOnFireOfficial They're not immune with the new AI, though. I had one forget about how to use his weapon just yesterday. Had to park him, take away his 2-hander, and give him a 1-handed sword to get him back on track. The big things right now seem to be thralls getting hurt/lost/stuck.
Appreciate you doing the work to get all the information together for people! I will definitely be switching up some of my thralls weapons now. Any recommendations for Archer thralls? In terms of bows?
@@KiahOnFireOfficial then yep need to redo those too lol only recently been playing more Conan so learning more about it as I go along. Have archers on my wall for pvp and want to make sure they have the best I can give them at the moment.
What I dislike about most of these videos with the time to kill comparison….. is that the TH-camrs never kill more then one enemy to get a ttk time. Kill it like 3 or 5 times with each weapon, then get the average.
Aja's Bane has had the best results over the years, i would never equip a 2-handed weapon over it. +5 strength and the speed.. I heard that the Voidforge Mace gives the same bonus but does even more damage so that's something i'll have to check out since it has completely slipped through my radar somehow.
Im giving mine (just redownloaded for the 100th time) 1h axe/shield Pike And either gs or warhammer Each set in strategic layout. The thralls with shields and axes do so as to hold the enemy for archers Pike is just to cc that ass to death because nothing says fuck you like 5 pikes holding you in place and poking you to death Warhammers have hyperarmer and greatswords are self explanatory, have the thralls guarding tight spots and narrow environments to counter act the slow attack speed and you have dodge the multiple semis coming your way on a 1 lane road Also goes down to the geography of the location theyre defending My estate guards will use 2h, the front gate axe shield, 2nd is a combo with axe and pike. Inner security after the gate is 2h and 1h axe combo etc. I pair them as such for optimal effeciency and it always works beautifully even in pvp.
The better and longer combo on the maces have them win out almost every time. If croms sword didnt waste time on down swing with huge recovery or cancel half their combos halfway it would have supremely fast kill times. Two handed maces and axes also lose so much time to thralls using kicks which ...is complete garbage to be honest and should be removed from move pool
Thralls get stuck in a block animation until they get hit. Same reason why Katanas are trash with thalls in the mean time til they fix the charged type weapons
I disagree. Ive been using the nortis mace for the past 3 weeks and is smashes everything faster than the sword of crom even if it misses a couple swings
Thanks Kiah. I'll definitely save this video. Me and the boys are thinking of giving Conan another go. We usually last a week or two on a server 😅. But we never really invest time into fighter thralls so I'll give a go
Is it possible to force a reset on weapon mod? Like maybe use a timed consumable mod on it? I'm stuck with armor pen and should have went with the master fitting that gives both dmg and arpen lol
How about the flawless obsidian mace (43dmg35armorpen) vs star metal mace (46dmg22armorpen) basestats that is. Seems like the armor pen is a bit higher on the flawless. Im gonna try the maces anyways
I would have like to seen ajas bane vrs nortis. If you could test it and leave times in comments that would be awesome and will earn my subscribe smash.
Ajas was best in slot when she made this video. And she didn't even have the master fittings so even better still lmao. Now Sword of Crom is leaps better compared to everything
The reason that the star metal mace even did better than the sword of crom is bc Lian normally use’s mace’s and thralls r better with the weapon types they started with
I'm curious about this: Does "Brittle Bastard" have some hidden bonus? Why would it be used over, say, the "Quake" mace which has better numbers on the item card? I've even seen it place higher than identical stat maces on some peoples' list - even when the others have actual "bonus X" listings.
Maces generally because there is less waiting time, and the attacks are fast meaning they can get more damage in than any other weapon type. However sunder type weapons are great too especially when it comes to undead types
on the latest server ive been playing on i got aja's from the first legendary chest i opened. made up for dying and having to grab my thrall from base to kill the thing. lol
Ajas ‘s bane mace is one of the best weapons for thralls it calls arena champion in 31 second using Dalnisa snow hunter But scyle of thag is so bad on human the arena champion could kill her while she had scyle of thag Thanks for the video its so helpful
Sword of Crom only does 91 damage, actually. I assume you put on an Advanced Weapon Damage Kit? Edit: I just noticed you listed weapons that already have that particular modification, as opposed to say a Master weapon fitting that would grant a +5 damage and +12% penetration?
didn't include hammers due to them kicking too much. Me; still using hammers on thalls specifically Diana the huntress. is it just me or dose she never kick when she uses a hammer. That or my RNG with that thrall is good enough where she never kicks in my sights. Personally one of my fav AI's that i might be lucking out on. Sadly that archer doesn't seem to go past 5,000 life when maxed but close enough.
Does anyone know where she gets that blue torch on her toolbar? I've seen Firespark with one of those but I haven't been able to find it on the conan exiles wiki for some reason or youtube which is weird. Is it a legendary or a mod?
ALWAYS use 2h swords on thralls rest is simply bullshit...Also forget about any thralls but the T4 from the volcano, relic hunter (spear guys) and cimmerian berserker, those have a 3.9 dmg modifier
@@cedricwilson1593 Some bosses can almost insta gib your Thralls (Arena Champion) and giving them two handed weapons can damn them to be stunlocked and killed pretty easy. It's not as clear cut. Against players also it doesn't work, but in PVP your thralls need bows...and nothing else (or used to)
@@TheBayzent thats why you tank bosses yourself using shieldblock and quick hits with the predatory blade, thralls are not meant to tank their damn job is dealing dmg
Because I know it will be asked about -
The predatory blade is not included because it's bad as a thrall weapon due to they will mostly use the heavy attack which does little to no damage, to get the most out of this weapon you need to use light attacks and you just don't have that control on thralls. (Pred blade took over 5+ mins to kill either of my bosses and they mostly used heavy attacks)
oh wow...thanks...I've been making that mistake. Funny thing is, I usually upgraded the thralls weapon from the Star Metal Mace to the Predatory Blade or Blade of the Adventurer.
Now you can set the thrall to melee only and they won’t use the dash attack anymore.
@@TALON-7 Star mace rocks now :D !
@@KiahOnFireOfficial I needed a "disposable hero" yesterday, so I just used a Cimmerian Fighter II. After all the chasing of theoretical perfection, I was surprised to see that, with the star metal mace, an undistinguished follower could hold his own quite well. It seems like whatever the maces lack in raw damage, they make up for in consistent, fast attacks.
Gonna change the hammer on my brutesince its not fast ill probably use a two handed steel long sword atm. Ty
Have you considered making an updated one of these videos for Siptah? Interested to see how well the new weapons like Annoying Shard hold up on a thrall.
U should use master weapon fitting over damage it brings up both pen and damage
So depending on what your goal is for your thrall. For jsut maintaining aggo and keeping the mob from hitting you I recommend a venom war axe. The aggro systems works off amount of hits, not damage inflicted. So when they use that there are 3 sources or damage tripling the "hits" - Glad festering axe was mentioned.
The one handed axes and maces seem to work well, with followers typically doing combos and not standing around very much. I like the Black Ice Broadsword a lot, and also tend to use the dragonbone weapons for thralls a fair bit. I have a relic hunter with Aja's Bane, and she tends to get work done in a hurry. Of all the hammers, I'd say that Bal-Teor's seems like the best one. Because it doesn't weigh anything, I usually carry one for contingencies. Spears, while they don't do the most damage or kill the fastest, seem to allow thralls to not take much damage, due to the stagger/knockback. The big hammers and axes are really variable. They can look really great sometimes, but other times go long periods without any effective attacks.
There's some really great weapons out there for sure, the usage has improved a lot too due to there bug fixes on the AI. I remember late last year struggling to get a thrall to use some of the weapons without them spacing out, but now it's not an issue. :)
@@KiahOnFireOfficial They're not immune with the new AI, though. I had one forget about how to use his weapon just yesterday. Had to park him, take away his 2-hander, and give him a 1-handed sword to get him back on track. The big things right now seem to be thralls getting hurt/lost/stuck.
How many times did you hear Lian shout “Steel and sparks” whilst recording this video?
many many many times..
Appreciate you doing the work to get all the information together for people! I will definitely be switching up some of my thralls weapons now. Any recommendations for Archer thralls? In terms of bows?
No worries! In terms of bows hmm, high pen, high dmg is always nice, star metal bows are nice, dragonbone also.
@@KiahOnFireOfficial then yep need to redo those too lol only recently been playing more Conan so learning more about it as I go along. Have archers on my wall for pvp and want to make sure they have the best I can give them at the moment.
What I dislike about most of these videos with the time to kill comparison….. is that the TH-camrs never kill more then one enemy to get a ttk time. Kill it like 3 or 5 times with each weapon, then get the average.
I really needed this video!! great job 👍❤️ kinda knew Aja's bane was the best tho
It's amaceing ;D
This was a big help, thank you!
Glad it helped!
This video was very helpful thank u
Aja's Bane has had the best results over the years, i would never equip a 2-handed weapon over it. +5 strength and the speed.. I heard that the Voidforge Mace gives the same bonus but does even more damage so that's something i'll have to check out since it has completely slipped through my radar somehow.
Got any updates top 10s after all the nerfs and item removeals? :)
Cant wait to play this again cant wait for new map
what new map
@@JuliusDeBerryJr new map should come out in 2020 or 2021 i believe
Im giving mine (just redownloaded for the 100th time)
1h axe/shield
Pike
And either gs or warhammer
Each set in strategic layout. The thralls with shields and axes do so as to hold the enemy for archers
Pike is just to cc that ass to death because nothing says fuck you like 5 pikes holding you in place and poking you to death
Warhammers have hyperarmer and greatswords are self explanatory, have the thralls guarding tight spots and narrow environments to counter act the slow attack speed and you have dodge the multiple semis coming your way on a 1 lane road
Also goes down to the geography of the location theyre defending
My estate guards will use 2h, the front gate axe shield, 2nd is a combo with axe and pike. Inner security after the gate is 2h and 1h axe combo etc.
I pair them as such for optimal effeciency and it always works beautifully even in pvp.
That was super helpful thank you.
The better and longer combo on the maces have them win out almost every time. If croms sword didnt waste time on down swing with huge recovery or cancel half their combos halfway it would have supremely fast kill times.
Two handed maces and axes also lose so much time to thralls using kicks which ...is complete garbage to be honest and should be removed from move pool
Does giving your thrall a shield make it a better pair with the 1handed weapon? Or no?
Thralls get stuck in a block animation until they get hit. Same reason why Katanas are trash with thalls in the mean time til they fix the charged type weapons
@@bronysaiyan5236 yeah but I tried a katana with my thrall and it does really good damage actually in pve.
@@palinopsis yeah ik they do but the have a habit of being sttuck in the R2 stance and not attack til they get hit lol
@@bronysaiyan5236 yeah it sucks to be stuck but has really good damage
Very cool CE content... Thank You!
Are most of these videos still valid for 2021??
Some of the shorter ranged weapons become realy bad when you're fighting a bigger creature (dragon, ogre, mammoth) they will miss a lot.
I disagree. Ive been using the nortis mace for the past 3 weeks and is smashes everything faster than the sword of crom even if it misses a couple swings
I am not sure if you already released the 3.0 list 🧐
More of these plz!
Lol built my base in the same spot !, knew I picked a good spot
Is a great place to be!
Thanks Kiah. I'll definitely save this video. Me and the boys are thinking of giving Conan another go. We usually last a week or two on a server 😅. But we never really invest time into fighter thralls so I'll give a go
Have fun!
What platform you on?
2 years later how accurate this still is? :)
still relevant
Is it possible to force a reset on weapon mod? Like maybe use a timed consumable mod on it? I'm stuck with armor pen and should have went with the master fitting that gives both dmg and arpen lol
You have to get that weapon again then xD
How about the flawless obsidian mace (43dmg35armorpen) vs star metal mace (46dmg22armorpen) basestats that is. Seems like the armor pen is a bit higher on the flawless. Im gonna try the maces anyways
Do you put shield with handed weapons
Is the sword of from still viable after the new update? I’m in console!
Any specific reason why you don't use redeemed legion chestplate and godbreaker grips?
I would have like to seen ajas bane vrs nortis. If you could test it and leave times in comments that would be awesome and will earn my subscribe smash.
Ajas was best in slot when she made this video. And she didn't even have the master fittings so even better still lmao. Now Sword of Crom is leaps better compared to everything
I know I'm late, but whats the full outfit on Lian?
The Scythe of Thag is a very overlooked weapon but I fear that they'll nerf it if too many people know about it and start using it.
The reason that the star metal mace even did better than the sword of crom is bc Lian normally use’s mace’s and thralls r better with the weapon types they started with
Lian starts with a axe not a mace
@FumB It’s actually a hammer but it counts as a mace
Kinda late again lol but where did you get this information from?
False.
I'm curious about this: Does "Brittle Bastard" have some hidden bonus? Why would it be used over, say, the "Quake" mace which has better numbers on the item card? I've even seen it place higher than identical stat maces on some peoples' list - even when the others have actual "bonus X" listings.
Brittle bastard does extra damage to player armors and shields so you can break people's gear
Disregarding legendaries, what weapon type is best for followers? I'm thinking sunder 2 handed sword. But I really don't know this stuff.
Maces generally because there is less waiting time, and the attacks are fast meaning they can get more damage in than any other weapon type.
However sunder type weapons are great too especially when it comes to undead types
on the latest server ive been playing on i got aja's from the first legendary chest i opened. made up for dying and having to grab my thrall from base to kill the thing. lol
lucky! :)
U should have used master weapon fittings
Ajas ‘s bane mace is one of the best weapons for thralls it calls arena champion in 31 second using Dalnisa snow hunter
But scyle of thag is so bad on human the arena champion could kill her while she had scyle of thag
Thanks for the video its so helpful
Sword of Crom only does 91 damage, actually. I assume you put on an Advanced Weapon Damage Kit?
Edit: I just noticed you listed weapons that already have that particular modification, as opposed to say a Master weapon fitting that would grant a +5 damage and +12% penetration?
They all had the adv dmg kit yea, Master would be better indeed however the list would still remain roughly at the same rates just quicker :)
didn't include hammers due to them kicking too much.
Me; still using hammers on thalls specifically Diana the huntress. is it just me or dose she never kick when she uses a hammer.
That or my RNG with that thrall is good enough where she never kicks in my sights. Personally one of my fav AI's that i might be lucking out on.
Sadly that archer doesn't seem to go past 5,000 life when maxed but close enough.
what about aja bane its a legendary 1h mace with plus 5 strength
what addonis that with a floating text?
Does anyone know where she gets that blue torch on her toolbar? I've seen Firespark with one of those but I haven't been able to find it on the conan exiles wiki for some reason or youtube which is weird. Is it a legendary or a mod?
red mother - it's a fairly rare drop though
@@TFox-di1nd Oooh thanks!
eh ajas bane was the second of 3 legendaries i found. guess i got the lucky draw with that one.
How does the Flawless Star Metal Mace compare?
Just under ajas, still smashing though
Are you playing on a console? Your HUD looks different.
PC
armor penetration is a big deal and should have it on all weapons
God breaker gloves +3 str
Executioner hood +3str
Champion chest/redeem silent chest +3str
Any +5 str weapon
I use for leveling thralls lol
Sounds like a good idea to me haha
ALWAYS use 2h swords on thralls rest is simply bullshit...Also forget about any thralls but the T4 from the volcano, relic hunter (spear guys) and cimmerian berserker, those have a 3.9 dmg modifier
@@cedricwilson1593 Some bosses can almost insta gib your Thralls (Arena Champion) and giving them two handed weapons can damn them to be stunlocked and killed pretty easy. It's not as clear cut.
Against players also it doesn't work, but in PVP your thralls need bows...and nothing else (or used to)
@@TheBayzent thats why you tank bosses yourself using shieldblock and quick hits with the predatory blade, thralls are not meant to tank their damn job is dealing dmg
@@cedricwilson1593 onehanded maces are the overall better option if you compare them to swords.
2h poison sword is the best in kill speed with master fitting vs the champion 1:30. with a godrolled spinas :)
Where can we get the aj bane?
Random find in boss chests.
Yeah I dont know a mace took my thrall 1:15 minutes to kill a regular tiger and with the flawless star metal great axe it only took him 11 seconds..m
I give all mine 2h great axes thay just spam spin to win heavy attacks and melt everything.
Spin 2 Win
Aja's bane on 10? While it got the best dps!
It wasn't tiered worst to best dw :) random assorted top 10
*Kidnaps Kiah* @KiahOnFire
Would u ever do a face reveal? =))))
I have :) already - check out the latest subnautica videos haha
So if Aja's is the best, why is it number 10?
It's not worst to best orientated
TH-cam put a 3 min add with no skip on your video. Unfortunately I won't watch it.