Sidenote on "Super Heihachi": His Wind God stance 2 (hidden electric) in this mode will break through armor and parries, same applies to Thunder God stance 1.
@@maninblack3410 mainman already addressed it in a previous video, he is a boomer, chat doesn't seem to recall him every time so... Pls take your pills more regularly Andrian 🙏
not a heihachi main but, i think his stances and move set look cool asf in tekken 8. overall, i love watching/fighting heihachi cause he’s overall dope asl
0:40 As someone who's been trying to learn Heihachi in older Tekkens (DR in particular), if I played T8, I'd be really exorcised at what they've done to Heihachi, especially making him so much worse at poking. I get that they want Reina to be the 'small Tekken' Mishima in T8, but, contrary to popular belief, she really doesn't play that much like old-fashioned Heihachi. For one thing, she has all sorts of evasive shenanigans, which Heihachi has never had, but the biggest difference is that, while old-school Heihachi had great pokes, he wasn't strictly dependent on 'small Tekken' in the way that Reina is, as he also boasted an array of safe, abuseable, normal- and counter-hit-launching mids. Reina, by contrast, doesn't really have any abuseable launchers apart from EWGF, and is much more of a death-by-a-thousand-cuts character. I, on the other hand, prefer to have access to a combination of both 'small' and 'big' Tekken, rather than being limited to either. That isn't to say that I want a character who excels at everything, to the point of having no discernible weaknesses - I'm okay with Heihachi having, as he's always had, suspect lows, for example - but I don't like having to choose between pokes and launchers.
I like to mix hellsweep with wavedash cancel FCDF4, because the cancel animation kinda looks like a delayed hellsweep if done quickly, so you can expect them to crouch guard thinking you will do a HS, but then you can surprise them with a WS3,1+2 or basically any mid you want.
Important note, as a -14 punish you get b3,3 into the same oki as guilotine smash and raijin 3. Some -15 moves push back slightly too far for the df3 punish so you have to b3,3 if you can't electric. Also if your oponent gets up wrong it will do more damage then the df3 punish anyways.
Super comprehensive guide! A few things to note is that Hei also has a Reina-like auto parry in Fujin stance during heat and d1,2 is a pretty good poke that goes into Raijin stance. It’s a high coverage oki option and I use it a lot against Xiao yus and Zafinas in their evasive stances.
My go to noob killer at red ranks rn, especially in heat is wind kamae stance to the throw which automatically puts me in raijin stanxe and do another throw in raijin stance. The amount of rounds i stolen with that is crazy 😂😂
One thing I like doing as a new comer to Tekken trying to learn a new character and build good habits with a new character is learn just a basic combo, using just that and movement to see how high I can climb. Doing this with Drag rn, almost at Garyu
F3 can give you +10 to +11 frames into a guaranteed 1,1,2 or 1,2,2(Dmg is scaled down tho) into a stance mixup if you want, you have to play with it a little in practice mode, for example if an EWGF is blocked, you can do a micro hold forward 3 and it should give you +10 or +11 if they step to either side. It's also should work after a blocked WS4.
"While what the rest of Tekken cast does can be labeled as fighting, what Heihachi does can more appropriately be called annihilation" TheMainManSWE 2013
The guide was excellent really in depth and broken down well, only two things missed which is great considering there’s so much to go through. Heihachi in heat has the option to press D3,2 for big dmg (also hits grounded) Also D1,2 press forward goes into his rajin stance for mixup. I learnt a lot from this guide, love the character and that he’s still execution heavy and even his VA has done a really good job in keeping this character badass nice one
so that b,2 into chrome dome setup is glorious, and it took me a second but I realized while messing with it - you can just ff2 or ff3 (ff2 is more lenient) full launch instead of f4 > wind 2 good bit more damage/carry for the same frame trap
I took a huge risk at buying Heihachi because I never would have thought in a million years that I would gain the execution needed for a Mishima. Surprise, surprise. He's my main now at Raijin.
@themythbigpumagang You're probably right about this. I can't see myself being able to play Mishimas in Tekken 7 and before. I'm usually more against dumbing down characters as I do enjoy watching pros play like crazy but T8 Heihachi is one of the few exceptions I'll accept.
11:30 Main man ehat controller are you using for this wavedash? That looks like a mixbox or hitbox that dash is looking so smooth this isn’t stick right?
I never understood clearly his weakness of almost no tracking until i fought an aggresive heihachi yesterday and jesus when he whiffs he fucking whiffs like you have all the time in the word to punish him. I just waited for him to whiff by side stepping and it was an easy win. Feels like fighting a clunky dark soul boss huge damage but easy to dodge when you get used it
HEIHACHI HEIHACHI HEIHACHU HEIHACHI IM SO FUCKING HAPPY I BOUGHT THE FUCKINGN GAME FOR THIS CHARACTER IM GOING TOP RANK IM GONNA BEAT BOOTY IM SO HAPPY
Only if you entered stance at +4 or higher. Anything less and you don’t have time to cancel. Not super hard to do in my opinion though, it’s bufferable.
@@daustthefaust8120 wait I double checked the Joka video (th-cam.com/video/rZimMihk4ok/w-d-xo.htmlsi=e3cWJ_cOHgt7L5gQ) and he definitely does it on f3 block vs jab. Just watch the start bit. That case would be -2 entry but it still worked. You sure on that or am I missing something else?
They should have kept his full throw game without implementing them into stances... Him and Reina are to similar in that regard now. Stances should just be focused on big buttons and for combos
fun thing about guard brake, it gives you 41 damage, it if you grab opponent and throw him into the wall you will receive 42 damage, risk being ducked is the same but requires more button pressing
I dont mind fighting this character 4 out of 5 rounds. Somehow on the last round hei players are more consumed by brainrot than alisa chainsaw stuff or drag plus into plus into plus situations. Also -10 on 2nd/3rd low hits of hellsweep? Not even a rising 4 for my troubles?
Okay after labbing it, this doesn’t work on asuka for some reason mainly because it’s only leaves you at +17. Now you still get a combo in warriors instinct but it’s the twin pistons
Can someone explain how heihachi is hard? I am at tekken god and play against dumbass heihachis 6/10 games. Playing Paul, I do not have the privilege of small hit boxes. It feels like I can never duck or press it’s either ss or block and pray there is no lows. Plus he heals when I block. If it’s his turn challenging an electric against a character you cannot duck against feels like shit. Execution doesn’t make you a hard character to me. Akuma was demanding yet we all know how that went. So genuinely asking. What is it that makes him hard?
@@ChandanKumar-qc1iyf4 into stance and do a quick df2 for electric. If they try to jab check you they will get launched because the electric will actually crush highs
@@RickRothstein843 I can do electric electric lol but a lot of people don’t realize that crouch dash out of stance you can get a zero execution electric and it’s a good way to keep your offense going right after a stance which usually you lose momentum. If they block your move and you go into stance and you don’t want to commit to a stance option just press df2 and you are +5 again. Instead of going into stance then doing a stance cancel and then doing an electric that’s just extra steps.
@@ChandanKumar-qc1iy you gotta learn how to condition people to not press during stances So go into a stance a couple times and power crush them or do a grab and they will start to respect your stances more and then you can start mixing them up.
@multifreier0078 I agree, I just can’t adapt to this mash fest play style. It’s too draining and overwhelming. This game was made for 8 & 10 year olds. Smh
@ChandanKumar-qc1iy He’s just easy to use & kind of spammy. I play Mishima so his play style is just jab, jab, poke, poke, then catch your opponent wiffing with an electric. On top of that his high damage combos make him s tier. I do 3 electrics into f1, into kamae stance into f1, then rajin stance 2, into uf 3+4, pop heat, then b2, into iron hand, into df1 & you have a 106 damage combo. Do that twice and you win the match. Pretty simple & easy to execute. I’m speaking for me of course. & last is his aesthetic look. It’s boring and the same like in t7. They should have gave him some suits in stead of his iconic boring ass Gi.
Mid tier.. Just say openly yeah He is broken but he is cool so don't nerf him..? I also love how delusional people call him so difficult and execution heavy when he is Lee and Steve treatment, meaning they were really hard in Tekken 7, but got super dumbed down in Tekken 8, both combos and Omen in Tekken 8 are baby level compared to T7 Heihachi. He is insanely strong and annoying, not even mentioning the fucking damage.. Kazuya only rivals it but Kazuya actually is difficult.
it's really funny to comment this on mainman's channel Known Kazuya hater Main Man. Never played Kazuya ever. Wouldn't know anything about t7 heihachi or kazuya or even the games before then. Definitely wouldn't be comparing Heihachi's execution directly to Kazuya's when talking about it. nope. What I think you're getting at is the failure state is softer in t8 than in those games. You don't just drop omen and lose your combo - you miss gold spark and do a little less damage. That doesn't make the optimal combo *easier*, that makes it less punishing to miss, and I think Main Man is particular about that distinction since especially for heihachi his damage is sort of everything. Especially because of how much he sits on the margin of 2 touch where that gold spark might actually be the difference between 2 and 3 interactions Having played Reina and Heihachi for a while you really feel the difference. Hei is that kind of character that looks broken but then you go into a match and never actually get to do the things you thought were busted because your opponent mashed jab. There's a world of depth behind using the big swings that makes it fun but objectively worse than all the characters that just get to swing for free. The other thing is that like, most of the top tiers do almost as much damage as Hei in many of the situations you can bring up, just not quite all of them. It's really only a small advantage for him at the moment. My bet is top tiers will get big damage and mechanical nerfs that suddenly shoot Hei up the tier list as the game reframes itself around him without him changing very much - at which point he'll be like high tier because his damage is more real of an advantage and the punishment tools matter more given some of the nerfs would be making things more punishable.
@deaderdandead1484 Hei is somewhat on paper Bryan Mishima. Back breaking linearity, lack of poking utility, not so scary lows, counterhit/launch high damage and scary wake-ups especially at wall. Yet there is bias in how Bryan could be S but Hei is B. However Hei has way better heat + healing. See how that doesn't seem like a fair analysis?
But everyone will defend Hei with... But he is so steppable. Yeah like Bryan. But execution. Yeah like Bryan if you want that. But so defensive. Yeah Bryan. No rushdown. Yeah Bryan. But he no lows. Yeah Bryan. But poking trash. Yeah Bryan. But Bryan damage. Hei has more damage. But Hei is hard. So is Bryan but a nicely placed CH/launch can change everything, like Hei. But then. Tekken players.
@@Kenkyou_Nogata I appreciate the comment but truly does not answer my question. Bryan isn't broken either. People putting Bryan all of a sudden in S tier after being considered mid tier for so long is beyond laughable. The Tekken community truly is a fucking head scratcher sometimes lmao
Sidenote on "Super Heihachi": His Wind God stance 2 (hidden electric) in this mode will break through armor and parries, same applies to Thunder God stance 1.
Totally broken
Imagine this video but we could see the input history that would be so crazy
(It was still a great video btw)
Why is he still like this? Is he afraid old heads are gonna call him out? There’s legit no other reason
I guess the is still room for the ultimate guide😂
I know it's frustrating but also I think tekken the moves you can tell what the inputs are for most of the stuff
@@maninblack3410 mainman already addressed it in a previous video, he is a boomer, chat doesn't seem to recall him every time so...
Pls take your pills more regularly Andrian 🙏
💀
All the execution and fundamental Tekken you need to play this character effectively just to die to chainsaw brain rot
skill issue
Your just jealous because she Can get up in the air and have the high ground
@@aldb2989bad bait 😂
Let's not act like heihachi isn't rewarded for having good execution or opening up the opponent.
Anyone that chirps about skill issue in the comments is usually bad themselves lol aldb probably hasn’t even gotten to Tekken King yet
Heihachi Mishima’s son is the most badass character ever created. It’s almost unbelievable that such a badass character even exists
Agreed, heihachi is second best next to his son. Kazuya is King.
@@The_Buff_Guy Its crazy at how every time I check tmmswe comments youre always around lol, hope you have another vid coming out soon
What about Jinpachi? lol
which one xd
Nah, hes just OLD @@phenom504
We need one of these guides for kaz
not a heihachi main but, i think his stances and move set look cool asf in tekken 8. overall, i love watching/fighting heihachi cause he’s overall dope asl
I’ve been waiting for this
I'm gonna study this video more than I did any of my university courses. Good shit mainman!
Can't wait to get a wavu degree
0:40 As someone who's been trying to learn Heihachi in older Tekkens (DR in particular), if I played T8, I'd be really exorcised at what they've done to Heihachi, especially making him so much worse at poking. I get that they want Reina to be the 'small Tekken' Mishima in T8, but, contrary to popular belief, she really doesn't play that much like old-fashioned Heihachi. For one thing, she has all sorts of evasive shenanigans, which Heihachi has never had, but the biggest difference is that, while old-school Heihachi had great pokes, he wasn't strictly dependent on 'small Tekken' in the way that Reina is, as he also boasted an array of safe, abuseable, normal- and counter-hit-launching mids. Reina, by contrast, doesn't really have any abuseable launchers apart from EWGF, and is much more of a death-by-a-thousand-cuts character. I, on the other hand, prefer to have access to a combination of both 'small' and 'big' Tekken, rather than being limited to either. That isn't to say that I want a character who excels at everything, to the point of having no discernible weaknesses - I'm okay with Heihachi having, as he's always had, suspect lows, for example - but I don't like having to choose between pokes and launchers.
Didn’t talk about d1,2,f into raijin stance I think it’s pretty good to get in stance but ss2 is so good too
I like to mix hellsweep with wavedash cancel FCDF4, because the cancel animation kinda looks like a delayed hellsweep if done quickly, so you can expect them to crouch guard thinking you will do a HS, but then you can surprise them with a WS3,1+2 or basically any mid you want.
Important note, as a -14 punish you get b3,3 into the same oki as guilotine smash and raijin 3. Some -15 moves push back slightly too far for the df3 punish so you have to b3,3 if you can't electric. Also if your oponent gets up wrong it will do more damage then the df3 punish anyways.
Absolutely love these guides, hopefully you over time do as you did with Tekken 7 and take all characters to GoD, then make more guides like this!
Super comprehensive guide! A few things to note is that Hei also has a Reina-like auto parry in Fujin stance during heat and d1,2 is a pretty good poke that goes into Raijin stance. It’s a high coverage oki option and I use it a lot against Xiao yus and Zafinas in their evasive stances.
My go to noob killer at red ranks rn, especially in heat is wind kamae stance to the throw which automatically puts me in raijin stanxe and do another throw in raijin stance. The amount of rounds i stolen with that is crazy 😂😂
One thing I like doing as a new comer to Tekken trying to learn a new character and build good habits with a new character is learn just a basic combo, using just that and movement to see how high I can climb. Doing this with Drag rn, almost at Garyu
F3 can give you +10 to +11 frames into a guaranteed 1,1,2 or 1,2,2(Dmg is scaled down tho) into a stance mixup if you want, you have to play with it a little in practice mode, for example if an EWGF is blocked, you can do a micro hold forward 3 and it should give you +10 or +11 if they step to either side. It's also should work after a blocked WS4.
The OG Heihachi is still kickin ass no matter how old he is. Lava and meteorites can’t even keep him down
Cliffs and explosives too.
"While what the rest of Tekken cast does can be labeled as fighting, what Heihachi does can more appropriately be called annihilation" TheMainManSWE 2013
Seeing inputs in videos like these would help alot.
The guide was excellent really in depth and broken down well, only two things missed which is great considering there’s so much to go through.
Heihachi in heat has the option to press D3,2 for big dmg (also hits grounded)
Also D1,2 press forward goes into his rajin stance for mixup.
I learnt a lot from this guide, love the character and that he’s still execution heavy and even his VA has done a really good job in keeping this character badass nice one
Who knew you can blue spark from this combo ender? 23:44
so that b,2 into chrome dome setup is glorious, and it took me a second but I realized while messing with it - you can just ff2 or ff3 (ff2 is more lenient) full launch instead of f4 > wind 2
good bit more damage/carry for the same frame trap
You put him to mid tieir but you also absolutely love him
Sinfulpants is easily the most “tech” Heihachi out there...please, prove me wrong!?
I took a huge risk at buying Heihachi because I never would have thought in a million years that I would gain the execution needed for a Mishima. Surprise, surprise. He's my main now at Raijin.
He’s been dumb down still hard to play but by far the easiest he’s ever been
@themythbigpumagang You're probably right about this. I can't see myself being able to play Mishimas in Tekken 7 and before. I'm usually more against dumbing down characters as I do enjoy watching pros play like crazy but T8 Heihachi is one of the few exceptions I'll accept.
@ hey if you ever pick up soul caliber 2 his wavu in that game is ridiculously fast and it’s so funny 😂 he b putting his whole face in his knees
high level will dickjab after heat burst, and beat 1+2 if HB is blocked. i got giddy with heat burst at the wall too until enough people learned it.
great job
I think the only thing he didn’t cover was parry effect of wind god stance in heat.
11:30
Main man ehat controller are you using for this wavedash? That looks like a mixbox or hitbox that dash is looking so smooth this isn’t stick right?
TMM needs to do a Jin guide. He’s such a honest and wholesome guy.
i want a JIM guide
Use special mode. Even MainManSWE couldn’t handle it.
Yes very Honest 😉
I never understood clearly his weakness of almost no tracking until i fought an aggresive heihachi yesterday and jesus when he whiffs he fucking whiffs like you have all the time in the word to punish him. I just waited for him to whiff by side stepping and it was an easy win. Feels like fighting a clunky dark soul boss huge damage but easy to dodge when you get used it
Any value in using electric/hellsweep using df during Fujin stance? Haven't found a good use for them yet but it's good to know you can do it
why isn't input enabled?
I love these videos on TMM where he explain things on practice mode ( =＾ω＾)
Heihachi is described in 1 phrase: "Stop!! He's already dead!!😭" 😂
HEIHACHI HEIHACHI HEIHACHU HEIHACHI IM SO FUCKING HAPPY I BOUGHT THE FUCKINGN GAME FOR THIS CHARACTER IM GOING TOP RANK IM GONNA BEAT BOOTY IM SO HAPPY
Wtf he is so strong we should nerf devil Jin and steve
If you do a PERFECT WGK cancel you actually cant be jab checked. Its very hard though. Joka showed this recently.
Only if you entered stance at +4 or higher. Anything less and you don’t have time to cancel. Not super hard to do in my opinion though, it’s bufferable.
@daustthefaust8120 Ah thank you so much that makes sense!
@@daustthefaust8120 wait I double checked the Joka video (th-cam.com/video/rZimMihk4ok/w-d-xo.htmlsi=e3cWJ_cOHgt7L5gQ) and he definitely does it on f3 block vs jab. Just watch the start bit. That case would be -2 entry but it still worked.
You sure on that or am I missing something else?
Great tutorial, but it needs input display enabled...
they turned him into Cervantes :D
here i am watching tekken 8 character guides when i don't even have a pc or a steam account.
Mishima's are tricky archetype to play in Tekken
Nice, sinfulpants got credit
REAL
Very balanced 😂
They should have kept his full throw game without implementing them into stances... Him and Reina are to similar in that regard now. Stances should just be focused on big buttons and for combos
Does F2 track?
W heihachi
I want to makeout with heihachi
same honestly
Facts
Pretty much lol
db3 can track on right bro
Wish he had command history on
fun thing about guard brake, it gives you 41 damage, it if you grab opponent and throw him into the wall you will receive 42 damage, risk being ducked is the same but requires more button pressing
I dont mind fighting this character 4 out of 5 rounds. Somehow on the last round hei players are more consumed by brainrot than alisa chainsaw stuff or drag plus into plus into plus situations. Also -10 on 2nd/3rd low hits of hellsweep? Not even a rising 4 for my troubles?
Plz show the input history next time, beginner really need this 😢
What's the logic behind giving him warrior instinct? Base game characters feel so undepowered against these DLC monsters.
DLC monsters? Eddy and Lidia not even in the A tier
Dragunov, feng, yoshi are underpowered?
@@ghostkiller2125 dlc monster? Id gladly trade warrior instinct with t7 tracking, and I’d still have a really good deal.
TMM I think you should explain the Rashomon tech a little more. Because I’m only seeing +17 on trade rather then the +22 you’re getting
Okay after labbing it, this doesn’t work on asuka for some reason mainly because it’s only leaves you at +17. Now you still get a combo in warriors instinct but it’s the twin pistons
Someone said “I want to make out with heihachi” 😂
Can someone explain how heihachi is hard? I am at tekken god and play against dumbass heihachis 6/10 games. Playing Paul, I do not have the privilege of small hit boxes. It feels like I can never duck or press it’s either ss or block and pray there is no lows. Plus he heals when I block. If it’s his turn challenging an electric against a character you cannot duck against feels like shit. Execution doesn’t make you a hard character to me. Akuma was demanding yet we all know how that went. So genuinely asking. What is it that makes him hard?
typical paul downplayer
@ I never said Paul was weak. I said he’s a large male. It makes it harder to step. Does it not?
This is more likely Heyhachi advertisement, than guide. 🙄
If you press df out of wind god stance you get a wave dash you can tap 2 at any time during that wave dash to get a real electric +5
I always get poked out of the stance. People have figured out that it’s very slow.
Just learn the real ewgf it will help way more in the long run
@@ChandanKumar-qc1iyf4 into stance and do a quick df2 for electric. If they try to jab check you they will get launched because the electric will actually crush highs
@@RickRothstein843 I can do electric electric lol but a lot of people don’t realize that crouch dash out of stance you can get a zero execution electric and it’s a good way to keep your offense going right after a stance which usually you lose momentum.
If they block your move and you go into stance and you don’t want to commit to a stance option just press df2 and you are +5 again.
Instead of going into stance then doing a stance cancel and then doing an electric that’s just extra steps.
@@ChandanKumar-qc1iy you gotta learn how to condition people to not press during stances
So go into a stance a couple times and power crush them or do a grab and they will start to respect your stances more and then you can start mixing them up.
I hate that the headbutt tech was found 😢😢😢 but congrats to whoever posted
Really love how linear they made Heihachi now for the rest of the roster
Rashomon Tech , does NOT work on Asuka. You get +17 instead of + 22 for some reason.
Heihachi and Bryan are very similar in this game…but what Bryan wouldn’t do for a i10 punish, universal parry, 50/50 and an alternate heat smash 😅.
The cope is so wild still
Great guide. I love heihachi but I wish they buffed some stuff with him such as making 11 -1 like all the other mishimas.
I think the word he’s looking for is obligatory. “Commital” isn’t a word in this context lol.
i just cant buy that hei has no tracking after so much videos and ingame events of moves like cd 3, uf1, rjn2 just hit people 90 degree away from axis
I will buy most expensive Tekken 8 version the day they announce ANCIENT OGRE as dlc.
Respectable 🫡
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This game is garbage!
That applies to all Tekken games... yet this game still lives while Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter & DOA are dead
@utarefson9
You didn’t hear the news? vf 6 is in development.
@multifreier0078
I agree, I just can’t adapt to this mash fest play style. It’s too draining and overwhelming. This game was made for 8 & 10 year olds. Smh
Heihachi is kind of boring and brain dead to a certain degree.
@@UserDoesNotExist570 how ?
Always was.
@ChandanKumar-qc1iy
He’s just easy to use & kind of spammy. I play Mishima so his play style is just jab, jab, poke, poke, then catch your opponent wiffing with an electric. On top of that his high damage combos make him s tier. I do 3 electrics into f1, into kamae stance into f1, then rajin stance 2, into uf 3+4, pop heat, then b2, into iron hand, into df1 & you have a 106 damage combo. Do that twice and you win the match. Pretty simple & easy to execute. I’m speaking for me of course. & last is his aesthetic look. It’s boring and the same like in t7. They should have gave him some suits in stead of his iconic boring ass Gi.
Mid tier.. Just say openly yeah He is broken but he is cool so don't nerf him..? I also love how delusional people call him so difficult and execution heavy when he is Lee and Steve treatment, meaning they were really hard in Tekken 7, but got super dumbed down in Tekken 8, both combos and Omen in Tekken 8 are baby level compared to T7 Heihachi. He is insanely strong and annoying, not even mentioning the fucking damage.. Kazuya only rivals it but Kazuya actually is difficult.
it's really funny to comment this on mainman's channel
Known Kazuya hater Main Man. Never played Kazuya ever. Wouldn't know anything about t7 heihachi or kazuya or even the games before then. Definitely wouldn't be comparing Heihachi's execution directly to Kazuya's when talking about it. nope.
What I think you're getting at is the failure state is softer in t8 than in those games. You don't just drop omen and lose your combo - you miss gold spark and do a little less damage. That doesn't make the optimal combo *easier*, that makes it less punishing to miss, and I think Main Man is particular about that distinction since especially for heihachi his damage is sort of everything. Especially because of how much he sits on the margin of 2 touch where that gold spark might actually be the difference between 2 and 3 interactions
Having played Reina and Heihachi for a while you really feel the difference. Hei is that kind of character that looks broken but then you go into a match and never actually get to do the things you thought were busted because your opponent mashed jab. There's a world of depth behind using the big swings that makes it fun but objectively worse than all the characters that just get to swing for free. The other thing is that like, most of the top tiers do almost as much damage as Hei in many of the situations you can bring up, just not quite all of them. It's really only a small advantage for him at the moment.
My bet is top tiers will get big damage and mechanical nerfs that suddenly shoot Hei up the tier list as the game reframes itself around him without him changing very much - at which point he'll be like high tier because his damage is more real of an advantage and the punishment tools matter more given some of the nerfs would be making things more punishable.
What is bro yapping about. Please elaborate on how Heihachi is busted.
@deaderdandead1484 Hei is somewhat on paper Bryan Mishima. Back breaking linearity, lack of poking utility, not so scary lows, counterhit/launch high damage and scary wake-ups especially at wall. Yet there is bias in how Bryan could be S but Hei is B. However Hei has way better heat + healing. See how that doesn't seem like a fair analysis?
But everyone will defend Hei with... But he is so steppable. Yeah like Bryan. But execution. Yeah like Bryan if you want that. But so defensive. Yeah Bryan. No rushdown. Yeah Bryan. But he no lows. Yeah Bryan. But poking trash. Yeah Bryan. But Bryan damage. Hei has more damage. But Hei is hard. So is Bryan but a nicely placed CH/launch can change everything, like Hei. But then. Tekken players.
@@Kenkyou_Nogata I appreciate the comment but truly does not answer my question. Bryan isn't broken either. People putting Bryan all of a sudden in S tier after being considered mid tier for so long is beyond laughable. The Tekken community truly is a fucking head scratcher sometimes lmao
Heihachi is cheaper than Jin.. yet people cry about his execution 😂
Wrong lol Jin is mostly safe
Who let bro cook
@@darkmadnessyeayuuh6932 lol okay. Let me catch you crouching by a wall..
@@dylzp Heihachi combo damage makes up for its incompleteness
It is a bait, guys. Ignore the clown
viedo for noob LOL
you cant sidestep my guy?