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Dear God, This seems semi-barbaric. My grandfather is 92 years old and was a Yale trained physician. He contracted Covid-19. He was fortunate to have had a mild case put was on oxygen and thank God he survived and is now healthy again. He still has so much wisdom and joy to gave to those that love him.
Exactly! Why are over 80s lumped into a group of mindless, bedridden people. Many over 80s are vibrant, wise & physically active individuals.
Tell everyone.Make it viral.....
Glad he is doing wellx
So glad he's better! My beloved great aunts lived to 94 and 80. Wonderful, interesting women. May he have many years more.
Gail I think you willfully miss interpreted what I said; my only point was don't lump all elders into bedridden ill people. Naturally, Any elder that chooses to be kept alive, despite illness, etc. should be have all interventions made without discrimination.
Sweet Lord, this is terrifying. My heart goes out to the victims of this fascistic policy. Will the government of Sweden be held accountable for this atrocity?
I'm Swedish and I don't think that anyone will be held accountable for anything during this crisis...
Johan Örtegren Johan, may I ask if you know what the opinion of the Swedish people is about this? Do they know? do they agree?
Most people don't really look into it and just say that in Sweden they think it's the quality of life that is important not extending life at all costs. There are already numbers that show that in those palliative care cohorts swedes are dying at approximately 3x the rate than in other countries ( controlling for case nr), of course showing what quality of life these survivors have will take longer, by which time it will be too late for the Swedish elderly. Unfortunately the media in Sweden is not investigative, it's spreading government propaganda, even the criticism is along the lines of government phrasing (they say failed to protect the elderly instead of purposefully not protecting the elderly eg). It is difficult to break this conditioning in swedes.
Probably not, it will be covered up as most governments do, sure Swedish citizens are not aware what they are doing behind the scenes.
I am a firefighter/EMT in Maryland. We routinely administer oxygen to patients with a low oxygen saturation, during transport to the hospital.
There are good people in this world. Bless this man for trying to save lives.
So Ture.
The frustration of living here in Sweden is heartbreaking. 💔😞 I can verify what he said about masks. I wore a mask to a supermarket yesterday and people were staring at me like I had escaped from a prehistoric mental institution or something. And people are living their lives like nothing’s going on. Many people think the pandemic is over. Social distancing basically doesn’t exist. People go to work sick, I actually had to go to the dentist and a woman there was sneezing right next to me and I got a cold after that. (Luckily, just a cold...) Health care and elderly care workers have been advised NOT to wear PPE (I don’t know how it’s now but that’s the case not long ago). People who want to donate homemade masks to health care and elderly care workers are denied. And masks are said to make things worse, indeed that is true. We are basically told that if you wash your hands you’re fine. Nobody’s talking about aerosolisation, or asymptomatic spreading. It’s just “stay home if you’ve got symptoms” that is the message. And now the country is opening up even more. We are basically told it’s over now. And the demonstrations? Don’t get me started... it’s a mess, and I’m constantly worried about the people I love, as well as the vulnerable that are paying the price for our strategy. We’ve already lost one in our family, and I just wish for this to stop. I wish our state epidemiologist will admit they’ve been wrong and try to make it better for Sweden. If I have to choose one word how it’s living in Sweden while being aware of how badly we’re doing, it’s: Anxiety. 24/7 big time anxiety. I don’t understand how money can be more important than human lives, and how the majority of the population doesn’t seem to care. It’s frightening. Honestly. I’m trying to share these videos but even them are being ignored or turned down like “propaganda” by those I know. I’m sharing studies which are being questioned and ignored. The arrogance of the Swedes at the moment, I’m wondering if we’ve just been brought up to believe that this is the best country in the world, and we like to think that we always do it right and better than other countries. Honestly I think we need a big reality check, because what is happening is just wrong. But I have to say I’m not really blaming the people, I’m blaming those in charge because they are misleading everybody and not taking responsibility. People cannot make the right decisions without the correct information. I don’t know what else to say. /sorry for a comment that turned out way longer than I planned
You can take pride in this inspiring doctor who has taken it on himself to stand up against the central directives. People are sheep but I mean that in a nice way. I am a social animal and depend on people to take a lead. Lets hope the government rethink things- they can change the general attitude quickly if they want. In a related video on Sweden John mentions that symptomatic care staff can attend work at their care homes. That is unbelievably crazy sounding so I really understand and sympathise with your feeling of anxiety.
There's a lot of Sweden here in the US after "Memorial Day" (ironic name given the current US situation) holiday which has instead of memorializing those who gave their life's in defense of the nation during wartime, has become the start of summer's indulgences: picnics, beaches, ball games, and outdoor parties. Vacation and fun. In this war we haven't yet won one battle in the US. Our "generals" are like those the north had at the start of the Civil War ... all the fighers had gone to the south, the North had the preeners and the sinecured full of high rank and social esteem. No good leader in the pandemic and (so similar to Covid's attack of hyper-agitation) social affliction has yet arisen in US offficialdom, nor even in the US States and cities.
@@ecf1691 Well I would be proud if what this doctor is saying was the truth and its not. His claims that there are central directions that you should only give palliative care to elder people in Sweden is just not true.
@@gandir5720 It's hard to prove something doesn't exist. Can you at least explain why you think it doesn't exist?
So sad. Terrible. And in the USA we just let people die because they can’t afford medical care.
Im from Sweden and I can state that my observations are identical to Jon Tallinger's.
I am chocked by how bad Sweden have been doing during this pandemic.
Thank you Jon and thank you John!!!
From the bottom of my heart!!! ❤️💐❤️💐❤️💐💝❣️💞💓💖💘💗💕
azorthegreat Sweden is failing as a civilized country. I’m sorry for you. Protect your older generations.
Same here. I’m also from Sweden, feels both good and bad to hear that other people are seeing what I’m seeing.
I am also in Sweden. I pay 60% high income tax for good health system, among others, for everyone. This is the result.
It’s odd. We’ve clearly advanced in science and technology from the time of the Spanish Flu. But this pandemic has revealed (and continues to reveal) how we’ve become less intelligent.
I woukd say less free. We know going out is dngerous, but people has to pay debts for everything. Before, you bought your house with your savings, nowadays, people cannot save becouse if they want to have a house they have ton indebt for the rest of their lives, unless you are a really successfull person, which is not possible for most people
Thx. Mass media
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@@007nadineL Actually this may have been entirely intelligent, just immoral, and, hopefully, illegal.
A powerful message from two very compassionate, intelligent gentlemen.
Just doctors as they used to be. American medicine has become a business, Very disgusting
Dr. John is on fire today! That aside, I'm very grateful as a resident of the UK, to hear about Sweden and other areas around the world!
Dr. John is very consistent. Much Love from America!💘🇺🇸
@Lizbet Arven absolutely agree with your comments.
Another Cindy from the USA 🇺🇸 that loves Dr. John!
Dr. John is a good guy and I like hes pedagogic way to explain a lot of things and he have good facts. But it did go wrong this time, because this guy that he is talking to is not to be trusted he is very controversial in Sweden and he does not hold him self to the truth.
@@gandir5720 So who should he have talked to?
Science and medicine is so controlled by politics today. It is refreshing to listen to this - some honest conversation.
3 videos before 2pm? Thank you for all your hard work and spreading the news for us all ✌🏻
Civilisation will be defined by how we look after the most vulnerable.
Dr John Campbell, what a statement!
As a man aged 50, I have elderly uncle's and aunt's. All of whom have served our nation. They gave us unconditional love. We owe it to them to live a happy and healthy life.
No way can a government let them die.
As a French after 5 years in Sweden, I can tell you that this is not a civilized country.
Great doctor! I am a respiratory therapist and my gosh, supplemental O2 is such a basic intervention. Combine that with antibiotics and anticoagulants and you could save so many people. It's mind-blowing that these aren't being provided.
Murderers!!!
Yes so incredibly sad ...I don’t ever want to go to Sweden based on this ....over Christmas my father was in hospital in Kent for 2 weeks..on 100% oxygen...they said even they can get oxygen to people’s houses if needed...my father survived..he is 87 and has completely recovered....oh God this is so dreadful
@@sheilakirwan9462 100% oxygen for two weeks? No that's toxic.
It's a lie. You should have realized this.
@@TheSineira What's a lie that should have been realized?
genocide! I'm 79 and is is absolutely horrifying.
Not a place for vacation or travel if you are over 60.
Pamela Ruigh or for anyone who respects life ...how to support a country that has such policies
Hope you're taking vitamin D
@@DeeBee2013 2000 IU daily and a 20 min sun bath
“Love others as much as you love yourself.”
Grandparents Lives Matter! what a good man from Sweden. Thanks Dr JC for showing this interview
Ha, funny but true. GLM!
Shocking. My neighbour, over 75, has oxygen delivered to his house, another neighbour up the street the same. It is almost a consumer good here in Canada. Care home fatalities are rampant here in Ontario, Canada, shameful for-profit infrastructures that are inadequate, so painfully evident during this pandemic.
Senicide, a new and unwelcome word in my vocabulary. I think this is the most outrageously cruel situation to emerge through this pandemic. There are probably others, but I haven't heard of them... yet.
Dr Campbell, this is one of the most powerful and informative interviews that you have ever provided the world. Thank you for everything that you do!
Wow, thank you!
Completely agreed ! I have pointed so many of my colleagues , friends, and family to him !!
That’s quite shocking. My mum is 76 and has diabetes but she still works 2-3 days a week as a social worker! She is so vibrant and busy. I’m an RN so I know that morphine does. I’ve worked in palliative care, aged care, neonates and other specialities. Very shocking. I’m in Australia so we have been very lucky so far.... but opening up everything so quickly now so.....(?).
Don’t worry. America has had thousands of protesters packed next to each other like sardines, and no spike. But just wait, I’m sure there will be a spike 1 day after the Trump rally...
Cult Boy we do have a spike in Memphis after 2 weeks of protests but yeah I agree. We were supposed to go to phase 3 yesterday but they changed their minds after the spike
Diana How is it possible that Chaz (Seattle’s Autonomous Zone) doesn’t have a spike? There have been non-stop protests, people flying into the city, and yet there is no spike. I’m not a genius, but something doesn’t add up! The media is feigning ignorance to this very day:
www.google.com/amp/s/www.thecentersquare.com/washington/seattle-s-autonomous-zone-changes-name-state-warns-of-coronavirus-spike/article_5bb2925e-af38-11ea-8d56-730cbee393bd.amp.html
@@Americansikkunt maybe, it's not reported or tested tracked and traced because of the stupidity and of the protester/blockade supporters. Results of an outbreak usually takes 2 weeks to surface, ie higher deaths. Could also be since many are younger fools, they are asymptomatic (80%), don't see much of Gramma or grandpa out there!
I live in BC we don't want our border opened to Washington. It was Washington visitors that caused the upsurge in the virus (community spread) to us and they will do it again! Stupid is as stupid does!
@@Americansikkunt Your TH-cam name is quite apt, well chosen. Petah makes no mention whatsoever of the US situation, this video isn't about the US situation but instead you had to invade this space with your partisan nonsense.
And as you're on the subject of highly partisan views, here's why the Tulsa rally will be a disaster. Oklahoma is now hitting peak positive cases, the Tulsa Metro is now hitting peak positive cases, the idea of holding a rally *indoors* in Tulsa whilst encouraging rally goers not to wear masks, not to socially distance so that Trump can put on a show for the cameras is quite breathtaking really (no pun intended).
The protests have all been outside, *some* have exercised impressive distancing, many have worn masks, and most are young. Granted, they may still catch it and spread it asymptomatically and that's why they shouldn't be happening right now in my opinion, but there's little immediate danger to the protesters and everything is done outside.
The Tulsa rally's average age will be considerably higher, it's likely (if every other Trump rally is anything to go by) that plenty of the rally goers themselves could be in some danger if they contract the virus, and they'll have likely come from all corners of Oklahoma as well as perhaps border regions of neighbouring states (Arkansas,Kansas,N Texas) who are all struggling with record rates of confirmed infections.
Plus, he's the President. Should he really be encouraging thousands of people to gather in an indoor arena in that part of the country at this time when it's not necessary at this time? Is that responsible leadership? And if he *has* to hold rally there, why do it indoors? Or would that be for security reasons that he cant hold an outdoor rally?
When I started reading about Sweden, it just looks like they treat long term care as a hospice program. We in the US do not do this and I suspect the UK does not either. Appears to be an attitude toward old age and I certainly would not want to live there.
Don't get too impressed with the UK, my mum got pulled into the "care system" after being over medicated, the care was far worse than Poland where my, inlaws have /are living, mother in law passed on from Cancer (fantastic very caring treatment) father in law still going well living with us, regular very high quality care, he's 83now.
Most elderly in Sweden continue to live in their own homes way into their 90's. If you have a partner that is able bodied then you are not entitled to any additional support. Care homes here, from what I can gather, are primarily for those in need of pallative care. It's not like retirement villages like in many other countries.
I agree. But here in us we have trapped the elderly in the nursing homes and forced institutional spread. I live in pa. Over half the deaths with covid are in nursing homes
In ny mayor cuomo put covid pos patients in homes not hospitals. We are monsters
Weird how people are so "appalled" by the swedish treatment for the elderly (in this case, covid 19), but here in the US, majority of people (covid or not) have been on a steady decline from day one of entering a nursing home facility. I have seen it numerous times, this has been known forever.
🗣🗣 Old news! Around the globe.
While there may be *some faculty that go to great lengths to truly care for the elderly in the facility, majority are doing their job - minimally - coinciding with the over worked, underpaid status.
Let's face the facts here, no matter what way you slice it, this is not only Sweden!
Very shocking that elderly people with comorbidities are treated like this! Even younger ones too, to me that's murder. How frightening this world and people in charge are☹☹🤔🤔xxx
It wouldn't be much different if Sweden just took their "undesireable" and "undeserving" elderly and shot them in the head to put them out of misery. Pretty appalling that a "civilized" country can act like this in 2020.
@@garybenhart It's maybe an anti immigration policy!
@Dawn Douglas Indeed, very worring that the generation who kills their parents and grandparents is or will be ruling this world. Terrifying!!
Well lucky for us all its no the truth, this guy that Dr Campbell is interviewing does not tell the truth he have some sort of self agenda in this.
@@gandir5720 And this "truth" is?
Sweden and Greece have almost equal population.
They both have huge numbers of migrants.
Greece has 185 dead. Sweden almost 5,000 (!)
Considering Sweden's superior and more robust NHS
the obvious conclusion is that herd immunity
is a disaster!
Sweden is actively killing off it's own elderly population !!!
This is state sponsored and a crime against humanity !!!
Planned state sponsored enforced involuntary Euthanasia. Criminal.
@@jeannestandley-kinata824
Dying of asphyxiation is not _euthanasia._
It's *Dysthanasia*
😧
That moment when TH-camrs stream more informed and objective interviews than the official news channels. Remind me again, why are we still funding public broadcasting?
100% agree
we are living in '1984'
Agree media has too much political and external influencers.
@@dutchcourage7312 Yeah, I guess, look at TH-cam like an underground resistance?
Media are only for political reasons.
NOT for people to see both sides of the story's.
Omg, I am 64 and relatively fit but have had a transplant and I'm shielding. I can't believe it and I was worried about my 83 yr old sister with dementia. Thank god I'm in Scotland .
Bad news, Scotland is more severly hit than Sweden theferret.scot/scotland-covid-19-excess-deaths-rate/
I think the best places are taiwan, s Korea and New Zealand if I'm not mistaken
T Brown Macau and Hong Kong too. Not S Korea.
Shame on Sweden for this heartless betrayal of Swedish elderly. Money over dignity and life.
It's not really about money though is it? It's something else.
Well I think it’s mainly money
I’m so surprised that they don’t give oxygen. If only for comfort care during their last days, or of course the possibility of saving lives of those with Covid. Thankyou for informing and advocating for O2.
@Frisian Sybe O2 is administered based on blood gas results. Not giving patients oxygen is cruel and unusual. With some patients with copd they could stop breathing if they have too much oxygen. Those patients always tend to have a high CO2 level anyway.
@Frisian Sybe all covid patients with low O2 should be given oxygen. When Co2 levels rise your blood ph is messed up and you can easily go into respiratory arrest. Don't worry - O2 therapy is carefully administrated and monitored
What this guy is saying is not fully true at all, its not how it does work in Sweden
Peter Jorhult which hospital/nursing home/gp clinic do you work in Peter?
The problem in Sweden may look superficially different but is essentially the same as in USA: gross incompetence and corruption in all levels of government. Laws and policies are not based on science and evidence but rather on ignorance and prejudice, and officials do not act in the people's interest but rather out of short-term economical interests.
PlutoniumJesus evidence?
PlutoniumJesus I think you'll find 90% of the worlds countries have exactly the same system you are describing, I live in a safe wealthy country and this behaviour is entrenched and has been for decades within all political parties.
At the very least the US has some degree of decentralization - it's not exactly unusual for people to dislike the federal state in the US for a wide range of reasons but ultimately various areas of the US are managed quite differently. Sweden is the size and population of a single US state.
This is a problem in every single country to a lesser or more extent, obviously. Most countries (governments, both the elected "government" and the legislature and civil unelected elements) are heavily criticised and lambasted by many either in their home country or abroad. Sweden sometimes is given the allure of perfection and complete incorruptibility. Doesn't add up in some areas at least.
Worse than the US actually because there are more mechanism in the US to hold people accountable for their actions or decisions in court.
PlutoniumJesus But our doctors and nurses are fantastic and heroic and won’t let our elderly die without giving them a chance to survive.
This is awful my father is over 60 and has hypertension I cannot believe that they would just let him die in Sweden this is awful!!! Injustice!!
All just to keep a fragile economy . Sacrifice lives just to keep money afloat .
My dad also has hypertension and COPD and he works at a school, they want him to come to work and they dont even try to make it a safe work place and all we are trying to do is get to herd immunity (im from the netherlands) i hope our parents will get trough it! Stay safe and strong ❤
I'm from Sweden and I myself am SPEACHLESS, and have been for a long of time!
No, the would not just let him die. They would activly kill him with morphine and benzodiazepam.
@@kjell744 I really don't bite the argument that lock down will do more harm than no lock down . I was in Vietnam several months ago when they started to do a 2 weeks lock down . Theirs economy wasn't destroyed , no death from starving and everyone quickly get back to work . And yes , may be there more reasons than the " protecting the economy " . Perhaps to get rid of the old people who being conservative ? Sweden is known to be champion of progressive idea ,they really not that great before the pandemic .
So if you're 60 or older and you get COVID-19...good luck!
The Final Solution...Swedish Style is really about reducing their economic "burden".
Over 2,000 Swedish Scientists signed a petition saying this was madness in Feb 2020 so this should be no surprise, this was the plan all along.
I've subscribed to Jon's TH-cam channel and I vow to share his videos and spread the word as much as I can... Good luck Sweden
Thank you for listening to Dr. Tallinger, he is fighting against the entire establishment here in Sweden.
He’s a great man
@@Pacjam123123 no he is not.
Bless this guy! Sweden what the hell are you doing. It is horribly similar to Nazi methods. This is unbelievable. In Sweden i would be condemned to death for my age and comorbidities
@Crawled Out Of Plato's Cave Well, you are not exactly "saints". Sweden has a long history in eugenics. www.theguardian.com/world/1999/mar/06/stephenbates
@Crawled Out Of Plato's Cave Crawled out of a pile of dung, are you normally this nice? Does your mum know you are a neo-Nazi?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
@Crawled Out Of Plato's Cave Where you're concerned,just slander and petty insults
@Crawled Out Of Plato's Cave
World's most multicultural society?
Have you been to the UK? Singapore?
As for homogenous societies, you'll find no shortage of those in the middle east where they all look and think alike.
Absolutely heartbreaking about the treatment of the Swedish elderly, left to die and all to save pennies on oxygen. Shame on the Swedish Government with blood on their hands. Is there a petition going? #oxygenforall
"hypoxia kills people"
It's sad this has to even be stated...
Clever clever man! Please can you send this video to our scientists who are advising the government and get them to share this with Swedish scientists and all over the World 🌍
Make a tweet including the link to this and tag them all
I live in Sweden and I am afraid of being murdered by the government and health care when I grow old.
I am 55 years now, so I have not far left now.
Better start eating and living healthier now (go on keto diet) and do intermittent fasting to avoid comorbidity.
I’m studying to become a nurse at the moment. In Sweden. I want to change how we treat people, especially our elderly. I can’t be the only one. I hope there’s still hope for our country and that you will be taken care of like you deserve. 🥺🙏🏼
Unbelievable. Don't the people doing this realize they too will be old one day?
@anny791 many countries have assisted death and they do not do this. Canada has assisted death and there's a lot of loopholes to jump through to get the death you want. They do make it difficult.
Most Sweedes seem to think this denial of care is exagerated. The propaganda machine is strong there.
polyanthesis, well I would put more trust in a practising front line medic rather than most people, II don’t think this Doctor is happy with these directives if I was an elderly healthy person I wouldn’t be either. Oxygen assistance is not rocket science this is rather surprising and scary.
Unless we get lucky!
Its just common far left politics. If you are no longer of use to the government, then there is no reason to keep you alive
A second by the way: the prerogative of the Dutch authorities considering the wearing of face masks is similar to that of Sweden. Even though face masks are now finally obligatory in mass transit, the public is made wary of wearing ‘m. The argument of the Dutch cdc that the people are prone to wrongly use face masks. Something which could be easily solved by proper education and information.
When we wear our masks people who don’t wear ‘m look at us as if we’re lepers. To us it shows how sadly effective this misinformation campaign from the Dutch government has become.
Vincent Huijing ..also in U.K....
Yeah, makes you wonder what our care nurses were told to do in our care homes ! ... because the Mask propaganda is clearly equal to that in Sweden... I mean Ollogren is basically Swedish ...
Fully agreed on that. We were told to sanitize our shopping carts, while airborne droplets are probably a much more important mode of transmission. Also, it isn't even that bad to not wear the non-medical mask fully correctly. It will still have a positive influence even if smaller.
@Dutch Courage I had the same thought about Swiss, where nobody wears masks (proclaimed as not effective?!), hospitals weren't full even at the time of peak. And the population here is old! Mystery.
But telling people that they don't know how to use masks is just mocking their basic intelectual capacities, in my opinion.
@Candy Twiggy Twist
The average person does not know how to use masks though. At least from what i have seen so far: Touching the mask all the time, pulling mask down over the chin, mask only covering mouth but not the nose, wearing mask while driving a car.. alone.
Ironically this even includes nurses & doctors who should really know better..
I like this guy a lot, God bless him and his campaign to right the wrongs in Sweden.
Why don't you just ask "God" to delete Covid-19 directly, if this strategy really works? Why are doctors and scientists needed if divine intervention is real?
"Jon.. on this channel, we like evidence."
The main reason why I watch this channel every day. Many thanks!
I agree we that look at this channel do like evidence and the truth but this guy does not speak the truth.
@@gandir5720 Its true!!
@@0e32 It's not true, and you can believe that its if you want but its simply not true. There is no facts backing up those claims, I would not say that its not happened on single elderly homes but its not something that are coming down from the Swedish government or the prime minster to treat people like that.
Peter Jorhult! Nobody believe you in the comment section! Why? The huge number of dead old people in the swedish care homes, who could have been saved by oxygen - not morphine with benzodiazepines! And the non-existing treatment of your elderly with Covid-19 and co-morbidities (1930's anyone...)!
@@gandir5720 You mean "Garderobssteffe" our prime minister who are hiding and not facing the public as a leader...hes a big joke!!
The application of oxygen being dangerous is too funny. I use it 24/7 in my home..no big deal. I use a gas stove. I havent changed my life except that i now have a " leash".
My mom used oxygen for nearly a decade.
No body in Sweden say that oxygen Is dangerous either, we have it everywhere in our elderly care, people have oxygen at home just like in all other countries. The guy that are in this interview is not telling the truth, and its not what is happening in Sweden.
@@gandir5720 so you're saying the bulletin he's referring to didn't happen? Got any proof? Or are you saying care homes are ignoring it (as they bloody well should)? Why are other people from Sweden confirming much of what he said? Are you the 50 kronar army (or just not out on the streets) or are they?
@@gandir5720 Peter, läs, upp, det är mer än ett perspektiv på gång här,
Kommer läkare att försöka rädda dom äldre? Ja,
Kommer politikerna att försöka spara pengar på att dom äldre dör? Ja,
Detta är lika mycket om politik som det är om det humanitära,
I got roasted for trying to share this story with my mum and brother. They believe oxygen is dangerous, and couldn't see that's not even the point. Even if it were, ppl deserve medical care regardless of their age or co-morbidities. This is murder. Shame on Sweden. The message should be spread far and wide.
One of the best interviews!
Euthanasia is supposed to be upon request coupled with professional counseling. But now it is up to the institutions influenced by their budget.
During the lockdown (even in Sweden relatives could cannot visit the elderly at nursing homes), older patients in at least both the UK and in Sweden were fooled and pressured into signing do-not-resuscitate orders without having the support or consultation with family... Nefarious...
@Seine O'More Media reports and personal accounts. Yes...
Euthanasia is even illegal in Sweden. Makes it even worse...
That's what makes it more like genocide.
Everything Jon says is true. I live in Sweden. This has been in social media here and in the news. It is horrifying and more needs to be done about this. The authorities need to be forced to stop this right away. It is appaling. Heya Jon för att du kämpa för de som inte kan kämpa själv.
I saw his 5 May interview in English with that other Swedish guy on 7 May and sent it to all my friends. In the meantime two big tv news media in the Netherlands have reported on the "morphine solution" for the elderly in Sweden.
I'm a retainer on oxygen and NIV at the age of 55 sounds like I may be put on palliative if I lived there . It's terrifying listening to that
I am a citizen of the USA, we have nothing to boast about, but this story about Sweden is ghastly. I have long held Sweden as a civilized country, no longer.
Daniel Wahl me too. I’m shocked!
Well it’s interesting to see what happens with government ran healthcare and high taxes. Don’t hate on the USA 🇺🇸
@@CycleBreakersCommunity no,but you might attract a bit
@wayne murphy why am I going to attract hate. I’m talking about other Americans there’s so many that basically hate America. It’s complicated so I can’t text it all out but I have no opinion of how Sweden operates. My ancestry is a large part Swedish. I’m just watching a video that shows a downside to a socialized healthcare system and responding in regards to something that’s debated over here. We have over 330 million people so what Sweden does isn’t a true comparison anyway.
I knew it was bad in Sweden the death toll in relation to their neighbors speaks for it'self, but this is just terrible, what a disgrace for Sweden's Departments to fail this badly to protect the most vulnerable, how many mothers and fathers are dead now because of this, just absolutely unacceptable, this is not last century, we have ways and means to prevent deaths, we don't just let people die.
Kielan It would be interesting to see the breakdown of the deaths by age......if the stats are reliable.
New York state has had 3 times the deaths per million of population compared to Sweden. NY, 1593/ Sweden,499. UK 618.
It happened the same in Spain, the government denied medical attention to old people especially to those in nursing homes. They will be brought to justice
So Spain too...... New York, Bergamo, UK, Sweden and Spain then confirmed. We might be getting closer to understanding the relatively large difference in death rates between countries... I know there are court cases already underway in Italy... There needs to be justice...
@@kahinaloren There are court cases underway in Spain too. In my area, Aragon (NE of Spain) up to 85% of the deaths were in nursing homes.
But if I am not mistaken in Spain and Italy it only happens after the healthcare has been swamped and they are forced to triage. So I suppose they have limited resources and are forced to do so , whereas Sweden has yet to be swamped and yet they are doing it already in a much more aggressive manner.
On the positive side we may say that Spain had the best & the biggest women's lib demonstrations in the world on 8 March 2020. "Toxic masculinity is more dangerous than the Corona virus", I read on the placards. Yeah.
@@ernstraedecker6174 very reminiscent of something that's happening somewhere else right now.
I am stunned! How on earth can this be condoned? Sweden is supposed to be a civilised country.
In the past, it was civilized but no more. It is dangerous to grow old in Sweden, really dangerous.
Sweden is very much falling apart. It’s not what it used to be, on many levels. Not just this. And we couldn’t take care of our elderly even before this pandemic started. Sweden is the sort of country that looks good on the outside but once you live in it you see it’s all empty promises, like the myth of gold at the end of the rainbow. It’s not there.
Nah..we were more civilized during the viking age
Shocking indeed!!
@@notjustanotherguy739 True
Dr. Tallinger is not alone in his observations:
"Geriatrics professor Yngve Gustafson believes that many elderly people are not treated for covid-19, but instead receive palliative medicine directly. '
- (Published on 2020-05-19 at 19:06 Paris Time) - DN (Dagens Nyheter)
366 nurses do not agrees: (Swedish) www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/a/3Jy7K9/nej-vi-sysslar-inte-med-aktiv-dodshjalp
Jon is not alone. Also this doctor has criticized this. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/skarp-kritik-efter-ivo-granskning-av-aldreboenden .
It's amazing and distressing that this nonsense is happening in a western European country that is known to be highly-advanced.
I completely agree: it’s just astonishing and crazy!
Was known
Their greatest advancement; utter contempt for other human beings.
Politicians run the show. Just because a country is scientifically advanced has little or nothing to do with illiterate politicians.
@@buggsy5 Sweden is only really scientifically ahead of everyone else in the science of eugenics. It looks like the scientists are fully in control.
So "old lives matter"? I'm seeing lots of young people down on one knee. But not for old folk.
A lot of swedish youth has been following the recommendations, while a lot of old people has refused. There are loads of interviews with 50+ people that just don't care. Let me tell you, as someone being out in the city during the protests (immune of course), that 90% of the protesters had masks, while only about 5% of the on-watchers, café guests and shoppers had masks.
Excellent
@@AllieAndPeach Well, if you mean baclavas to hide their identity, yes. Not that effective against covid. Non of the young whites wear masks (apart from antifa thugs only to avoid being identified) and many of them openly says in interviews that they don't care about covid, but it is more important to kneel before Africans and apologize for their white skins.
We must spread the evidence of this scandal being committed as we speak, by the ruling party of Sweden - not exempt from the populist, far-right trend in Europe.
Thank you for keeping us aware of what is happening now.
Wtf are you talking about? Sweden has a leftwing Socialist and Green government that 60% of the voters voted against btw...
I remember reading this and agree completely with what Dr Tallinger says about oxygen not administered to elderly patients in care homes here in Sweden. The reason given that they did not have competent staff to carry this out ! Also agree that face masks should be mandated on public transport and in shops. Why not use a mask when shopping and why not use a plastic glove when checking in and paying at the cash desk ? Common sense surely and it will help towards saving somebody else’s health. If not mandated we can still do it voluntarily. Masks and plastic gloves can be bought on the internet and are not expensive.
In the US Doctors sent people home with personal oxygen supplies and they treat themselves at home.
Gloves are of course a big no no. The virus does not penetrate the skin, so at best gloves are irrelevant. But more probably glovistas will contaminate themselves when they pull off their gloves. It's better to wash your hands when coming home.
Even at the Diamond Princess cruise ship the Japanese health authorities forbade the use of gloves for the passengers, after one day of experimenting with them.
And face masks are irrelevant outdoors. Outdoors is safer than indoors. Outdoors is healthier than indoors. So if you are the anxious type, take your muzzle off when going out, and put it on again when returning to your not so safe home.
Ernst Raedecker
It would be helpful if you post where you get your evidence, please? I genuinely would like to follow it up for my own curiosity.
Thank you.
Face shields help keep it from entering through the eyes. Or goggles. Seems Sweden will have lots of asymptomatics spreading the virus. Especially after protests. Seems like Sweden wants to depopulate. 6 months in NYC being proactive but had to wait months for others. Then protests/ riots thousands upon thousands gathering. Not all wore masks; many on their chins while screaming peaceful things. Like F the Police.
I live in a 50+ Private community in the US. Five people on my street alone get oxygen delivered. The oxygen company is here as much as Amazon.
Just look at the numbers in Sweden and you know enough.
The numbers in Sweden are on similar levels as in Italy, Spain, France, the UK.
Peter Kroll in some cases their numbers are less!
+walter kooy
Exactly, you know that Sweden made the most intelligent choice.
@@dianasimplifies exactly. Belgium and the UK seem worse. But everywhere in the media you hear failed experiment bla bla.
I don't think that was meant to be an experiment at all. I think they know exactly what they are doing, and obviously the population supports it. If the case rate was over the top, or the CFR out of what other countries see ... but that is absolutely not so.
@@krollpeter but the Swedes had a good chance to observe the Italian/Spanish/French experience!!!
I am from Sweden, this man is telling the truth.
Me too. He's a legend.
@@bloodaid Ja verkligen! Så glad att Sverige blir belyst på denna kanal så folk omkring hela jorden kan höra hur det verkligen är här
But he doesent know anything how to deal with the virus. Cases have dropped to zero in sweden today.
We have forgotten what we are, human beings. There is more care for animals- ie, ASPCA commercials begging for money.
Animals don't answer back, or have an opinion, informed or not, which is why so many human's love animals, but not other humans.
jimid, anyone who really thinks humans are a plague on the planet is evil. Seek help.
calm down D, healthy animals are routinely gassed for convenience and food.
Sadly this is not just happening in Sweden. My dad died of covid at home. He was 76 and had diabetes. He was refused treatment and was not allowed to go into hospital. He died a horrific death 5 days after being diagnosed positive for covid. Everything that was discussed today rang so true for our family.
So, so sorry for your loss.
Yes - I can attest to what is happening in the UK. I am 'shielded' from receiving normal medical care too!
[Suspected fracture of my ankle, but I cannot have xrays or MRI's as I am not allowed to go to hospital. They could not even send me a Walking Boot by courier or taxi or anything - my brother who is an elderly cancer survivor had to pick it up from hospital for me. Cannot have appropriate medicine as i cannot have blood tests to monitor .... it has been a nightmare!
And it is distressing for the doctors and nurses and Consultants too as they cannot give the healthcare they want to give.
I am so sorry
This is so wrong, he should have had at least comfort oxygen and palliative care. So sorry you all experienced this.
Jon Tallinger is a hero for speaking out!
He is a true hero.
Thank you for sharing Dr. I am interested and alwayz waiting for sweden news
Jon Tallinger makes me proud to be Swedish. One of few people here.
Agree completely. Sweden is not lost.
He is awesome & I truly wish Sweden blessed health and safety to all from America, Tennessee here💗🐴
Same. Another Swede here. 👋🏼 This makes me a little bit less frustrated, I wish this would reach more people in our country.
Same here
@@notjustanotherguy739 Share away to everyone you know. They've given us the story so use it.
Awesome job Jon Tallinger in Sweden💗 & thank you doc🐰 for having him on. Enjoyed this very much💗
🏥Oxygen for all🏥
Blessed health and safety to all from America,
Tennessee🐴💗
This is heartbreaking I can not believe they are sending all those people to their deaths
Well, you should not believe this. Because this is real bull. He is known to be one of the tin hats. There are also a former doctor, who is called Dr Anus, because he treated women by pushing his hand up their anus. So one women got so hurt and needed treatments.
He are also have some people follow him now when he cries about he have a treatment that will save humanity for Covid-19. And that he showed his hand up the anus of patients are propaganda against him.
But this Dr is really lying and exaggerating, why I don't know.
I'm getting practically all my pandemic information from this fantastic channel, and I've recommended all my friends and family to do the same. Being a Swede, I'm not at all surprised that the first time I've heard of this, and Dr. Tallinger, happens to be here. Just shared this on social media to get the word out. It's so sad, and all I can say is that I'm so very appreciative of all the important information you get out to all of us. Your incredible work saves lives.
Thanks for sharing!
I am swedish. Everything this man says is true.
How horrible. It is moving in that direction in the US but we do give oxygen and hospital care to elderly.
The world has lost its moral compass.
Pope Frances said that not to care for the elderly is to deny the young their future.
Pamela Ruigh Reminds me of that politician in Texas who openly said the elderly should be willing to sacrifice their lives for the economy.
😢
Now Tengil claims it is OK to go to work if you have covid symptoms...
www.expressen.se/tv/nyheter/tegnell-stockholmare-kan-ga-till-jobbet-trots-symtom/
Can we start a world wide petition oxygen for every one.
Old Lives Matter™!
Faster to dispatch the rich.
So happy you two met, Jon and John! I´ve been following both of you in some months.
Great job, please keep on spreading the message! Nobody else seems to care...
David Liptrot why do you come on this you tube if you don’t believe any of it ..John is clearly a good man, trying to help others ...do you ? ...hence he can be peaceful and have self respect ....when the mind is negative and hating, it can’t be peaceful...
Second, thank so much for all the information John!
Wow I have chills and tingles all over my body looking and listening at the two of you how proud I am to belong to a world where you are. Thank you Robin Griffith
Sweden leaders should be held acountable for the criminal actions the have forced on the people. Sweden did nothing to help their people and i feel a shame to be a swed today. I hope the world leaders see whats happening i our country and do something about it so our leaders dont continue with this horrific behaviour.
Occam's razor. What is more likely? This guy being a cuckoo clock or Sweden killing elderly?
Don't be ashamed. I'm a German and not ashamed by my country's history. But do go out, and all in, to call your "government" out on this. Be a warrior to combat this atrocious behavior. Be a MAN. Stand up. That is what you can do.
This is deeply disturbing, and I'm wondering what the approach is regarding giving oxygen in Canadian LTC homes.
Alison MacMillan My father was in a facility in Quebec. He had excellent care. He did get COVID-19 2 weeks ago, at 96 years of age, and died within 2 days. He had a DNR order, however he was given oxygen to keep him comfortable, and drugs, including morphine, to keep him comfortable and relieve his difficulty breathing.
Morphine suppresses breathing.
I just tweeted this link to Boris Johnson’s twitter.
Fergus McDuff I hope he is shocked too and will take whatever action he can to publicise it and shame Sweden ....I think since his own brush with death, he is more sympathetic
@@sheilakirwan9462 Well maybe he will be smart and look up what is true or not true before he attacks friends of Great Britain. What this guy is say is not true at all there a no directive from the Swedish government to stop treating old people.
Peter Jorhult im just wondering what would be his motivation to come out with such a statement then, if the authorities are not really doing that?
@DannyM71 I Don't need to be a doctor in Sweden to tell you this is not the truth I live in Sweden, I read our news I listen to our doctors. And all medical cases and reports in Sweden are fully open for media. No political party is talking about this not even the one that he is talking about in the clip in the beginning, he is miss translating his own video.
The only official guidelines that is close to what he is talking about is if our hospitals was getting full and totality overrun for a worst case scenario we would use triage to decide who get treatment.
The problem here is its hard to give you hard facts about that he is lying since no body talk about this guy at all here, but no media in Sweden corroborate his pictures of what is happening.
@@gandir5720 it would seem that this Swedish Doctor is not the only Swedish Health professional to have received the directive regarding the treatment of elderly, www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52704836
God bless You two Guys!
Love from Sweden
You would never in a million years expect something like this from a so called civilised country like Sweden but also what he was saying about people mocking people for wearing a mask I have experienced this in the UK, l wear a mask and gloves every time I go into a shop or supermarket, I really think it should be the law at the moment and not a recommendation 😷🧤
SIgh. You fell for it.
Enjoyed listening to this who else agrees
Great info but very disturbing
Excellent! We are so fortunate that the two of you share. Thank you! My heart goes out to you both. Your genuine humanity and concern give the world hope.
We have clients who have oxygen in their homes here in Australia (generally, without covid 19).
Oxy cylinders certainly used to be common here in the UK too. I remember seeing them in bedrooms and next to the sitting chair of older folk when I was younger. My old chap had one in the bedroom. He had emphysema. From working down a pit and smoking. Though I'm a chip off the old block in that respect.
Here in uk too! And nursing homes
I believe it can be dangerous while sleeping, if the person is at home. The blood becomes saturated and they forget to breathe. Something like that.
But in a hospital the patient can be monitored, even in a regular ward.
If they aren't using the oxygen all night, they should be ok at home as well. But they should probably not be alone.
Nebulizers with drugs like ventolin are used a lot at home and are often very effective.
But as I understand, these poor sods are being refused any kind of effective treatment at all, such as an antibiotic, or a day or two with oxygen.
That dose of morphine is euthanasia.
I am not against that when it's what the person wants and requests and they can't be helped medically any more.
But this is not the case.
We have people in Sweden that does have oxygen at home too, and what this guy is saying is not in the realm of truth
@@emmajones8590 In Sweden people get oxygen treatment as well even in elderly care, in hospitals and even at home. This guy is not telling the truth about what is happening in Sweden.
Thank you so much for getting this information to us.
I live in Sweden and I've been pretty much a prisoner of the rest of the country because every time I go out, I'm at their mercy to protect me and wear face masks and keep their distance, which almost nobody does. Thank you so much for shining a light on the dire situation over here.
I feel exactly the same, as a prisoner. I feel a prisoner of the Swedish mediocrity.
This Swedish guy Jon must feel terrible about what is being done to his nation.
As a doctor who is instructed to save people...
Yes - he does not work at his regular job. He trying to stop this murdering of the elderly.
Many Swedish guys feel so, I can tell.
Absolutely.
So old people don't matter? Here in UK 100 yr olds like Captain Jack (Now Colonel) we would n't have 36 million pounds raised for the NHS.
Oh this sounds so sinister. I'm seeing Sweden in a new dimmer light
They have failed and elected right wing scum. Always a mistake.
@McDonalds Farmer I suspect in the UK's case it is sheer incompetence combined with the fact the government staked everything on " saving the NHS from being over run". They did this by clearing all possible hospital beds of elderly people and sending them into care homes to die. This was all done not because they actually cared about anyone's life but to try and save the reputation of the government. Well that worked well didn't it?
@ Right wing scum? In Sweden? Man, learn about current politics before you post.
This is the most horrifying video I have ever seen on TH-cam 😩. Everyone should see what is going on in Sweden.
Share it to everyone you know, facebook & twitter too.
@@MusicM0VES I tried. Everything gets ghosted. I'm ready to take up weapons. This is the end-game.
Thank you so much Dr Tallinger , it's so good of you to do this . I know it is what you go into Medicine for but this could get you in a lot of trouble/ make you unpopular/be devastating for your career. Thank you for being so brave & an advocate for these poor victims .
Such an intelligent and compassionate person. Thank you! In fact both of you have done so much to contribute to the world's knowledge on this. It's a sad thing that the world is not listening.
Interesting information. Been watching since early January. Amazing how often the narrative changes. Thanks for the tireless effort and earnest attempt at objectivity...
I second that. Dr John’s commitment to objectivity has been truly astounding...
Thanks for watching!
You are naive if you think that this only happens in Sweden.
That's true. I remember in the early days in Italy they were over run and were letting the elderly die. I saw a doctor say if he had to choose between a young patient with more of a chance and someone elderly then the old person would be left to die.
@@paulg8730 but sweden does not find itself in the same situation as Italy, Spain.
But Italy had to, because there were no more ventilators left.
In other countries, like Sweden or The Netherlands, they don't even give the elderly that option. They often say to them that they stand little chance to have a decent life IF they end up surviving the intensive care unit. Often they won't take take them to the ICU. Even when there are ventilators available. In Italy, they ALWAYS give that option, unless there just aren't any beds left.
Barbara Breunis Sorry, but my wife who is a GP and we emigrated from the Netherlands last year to Sweden. I can tell you as far as her experience is concerned the situation in Västernorrland is actually the same as in Italy where people get the option to go to the hospital or stay in the elderly home where they can get any basic treatment except oxygen. In the NL you have the same option, but getting O2 is hard in a home situation.
Dr Tallinger is so good!!! FASCINATING!!!!!
I’m swedish and as an ordinary resident we are powerless in this. Even to get the information out is so hard because media doesn’t cover the reality of things!!
@Ginnungagap A Nazi???? What they are doing there is very much like what the Nazis did, back then!
Going to keep a close eye on Sweden. Lets see if the predictions come true.
No need to wait. Sweden is changing strategy because they failed.
@@bloodaid The strategy in Sweden have not changed since its in large part is working , it have failed in our elderly home and that everyone here is deeply sad about.
LongJohn Vllasaliu Sweden is not changing strategy. No need to. Deaths and ICU cases are decreasing. Reported cases are increasing because they are testing many more and even very mild cases are now detected and added to the statistics.
Torun Johansson yeah, more testing is a change of strategy. Even FHM is hinting it. Don’t try to start an argument for nothing. Get a life.
@@gandir5720 You seem very certain that Sweden strategy is good. However, IF you are wrong, are you open to realise that in such case? Otherwise you are just another brainwashed sheep that blindly attack every argument that not fit your narrative.
I hope my Swedish relatives stay healthy and don’t contract COVID-19!
Not easy with 1000 cases per day. With a population of 10 million.....
On another note, Dr. Tallinger can treat me anytime
lol
Many many thanks Dr. Campbell for inviting Dr. Tallinger to your channel. I am very pleased and grateful to see the two of you in a long conversation. Suddenly a little hope has returned; can we together save the old and fragile in Sweden?
I'm so grateful you cover CoViD-19 from a non-political/non-conspiratorial manner. Thank you, and your guests, who talk about this from a perspective of how best to save lives.
WoW!!! Even the British Government have FINALLY !! agreed to (some) wearing of face masks.
They have but the next problem is getting our stupid people to wear them. In my town you would think it was all over. It is only stores trying to enforce some distancing that reminds you there is a virus out there. If cases don't start rising soon i will be very surprised. The daily official figures look to me as if we have plateaued anyway. They remain stubbornly similar every day.
It's like wearing a johnny after the deed is done!
There was an episode in Star Trek Next Generation called "Half a Life" where all over 60s on some distant planet were terminated with an appropriate ceremony. I am sure that the script writers never thought a civilised and progressive country such as Sweden would ever let his happen for real.
The jury must still be out on whether Sweden is progressive and civilised. Isn't it mostly very bureaucratic (maybe hence the oxygen administering problem - people who need a certificate?). What I've heard and read over the years it's a bit as with Poland in the communist days; the "socialist salvationstate" (literal translation of the Dutch word "heilstaat"), everything seems so good there on paper. To the outside observer it looks like there's extreme socialist neoliberals on the one side destroying the country and extreme altright on the other side who would totally destroy the country as well if they were in power and no common sense to go in between. Of course most people aren't like that but the politicians sure seem that way.
well, it isn't anything like that in Sweden. But you probably wanted this to be true.
@@AndersJackson Following this video, I checked into a wide variety of other news sources where I confirmed that other doctors were saying the same as Dr Tallinger. However, this does not mean that the UK and its regional parliaments have been without criticism for how they let down the elderly and frail in care homes.
Brian Griffiths, As a fellow Trekkie I immediately thought of that episode. The difference is the gentleman in that story had been brainwashed his whole life to accept that it was his duty to die at 60 yrs old. He became friends with a woman who tried to encourage him to stay on the spaceship and seek asylum . But his daughter came back and manipulated him into returning to their planet. He voluntarily went back and allowed himself to be Euthanized because it was their culture.
Francis Schafer predicted what is happening in Sweden today. In the 1960s to 1988 Dr. Shaefer lectured extensively and wrote books on Ethics and the immorality of involuntary forced Euthanasia. He called this " The slippery slope " and predicted that as man devalued human life, we as a society would progress down the ethical slippery slope to legalized government forced involuntary Euthanasia. He said it would be sold to the public as " for the good of society". He lists the justifications used by governments as: Limited resources, high cost of medical care, limited land, water and natural resources , global warming and a judgement of " low quality of life " in differently abled people. In other words the governments believe the earth's resources should be saved for the ELITE, rich, beautiful, young, healthy perfect people. And others who do not fit that description should be slaves/ workers/ serfs serving the ruling class. The sick, weak, elderly, vulnerable are seen as disposable and are eliminated.
I think it is really clear that these beliefs have a basis in Eugenics. Aldoph Hitler practiced these beliefs during WWII. He allowed horrific experiments to be done on humans that he considered to have " low quality of life". Hitler considered the elderly, differently abled, non Neuro typical, Down's Syndrome, and all Jewish people to be inferior. And he started a subtle propaganda campaign to convince the German people that these people needed to be eliminated " for the good of humanity". The holocaust was the result.
As SARS-CoVid-2 virus and COVID-19 spread into a world pandemic I have become increasingly concerned as to the mixed messages leaders in certain countries are promoting. Anti mask propaganda, conspiracy theories, demonstrations, all serve to aid the spread. Seems like a convient way to reduce population and spending on Social Services.
Too bad it's not a Star Trek Science fiction story that can be resolved in an one hour episode. Live long and prosper. I am sending love and hugs from Washington State, USA, Jeanne of In Loving Hands Counseling and ASMR.
@@AndersJackson tell us how it is then, where possible citing sources.
This was a great video. simplistic in form. I had no idea that oxygen was not for all. what a wake up.
This is surprising coming from Sweden. I thought the US choosing economics over people was bad, but this is worse.
Not surprising at all. Sweden has always been like this. Eugenetics was a core value of the health idea right up until the 1970s. Why would you feed the useless mouths? Why prolong and protract worn-out & painful & futureless lives? That's the idea! In Sweden, that is.
Well, it's a lie.
Hej Dr Jonh Cambell very interesting video i am swedish and live in sweden it is scary and very bad how sweden has handled Covid-19. What Sweden does they play with people's lives i think it is very good John that you say that the Swedish model is wrong because it is big time. I read now on my tv text tv a city north called Gällivare must shut down leisure and cultural facilities, because Gällivare has dangerous spread of covid-19. I look at my neighbors they talk to each other as usual, people lie and sunbathe near each other and so on this will end very badly unless Sweden takes hold of this disease and, put on the hard gloves this can't continue. John you are doing an incredibly good job have said it before but you are worth all the praise several times over take care have a safe and lovely day.
Dr. Tallinger thank you so much for the critical work you are doing. Sweden’s policy of just letting people die has shocked and distressed me and millions of others. It means if we were there, certainly my parents, and possibly I (age 60), would be denied COVID-19 care. Every life is precious! You are an answer to prayer and a hero. From California.
Thank you! Finally a clear view on what’s going on in Sweden. ...and probably not only Sweden. You should wonder why most news channels don’t report about this.