I've seen it over and over. Parents wanting to purchase the cheapest instrument. I always recommend that they return those $75 specials. They are Instrument shaped objects! I often make the analogy, you wouldn't wear shoes that give you blisters. they must be comfortable to wear and walk in them. otherwise you will not wear them again. A musical instrument must also be comfortable to play and be able to produce music. It should be a pleasurable experience. If that doesn't work, I throw in... video game consoles cost more!
Where I live, I pay 20€/month in rent for a decent beginner instrument with bow, case, shoulder rest, maintenance, and insurance. If I ever want to buy the instrument, the money I paid for renting it will count towards the buying price for up to 2 years. I feel that's pretty fair. But yes, violin is not the most affordable instrument to learn. 100$ might give you 4-5 months of violin, but you'll also need to pay for lessons.
@@Sarah-oj7bh lessons are optional !!! youtube and the now available ai can help you a lot more than you think though it is better to have an irl teacher, the free resources are better for those who only have the instrument budget
cheap is always Good for me, but do not buy new violin if you are new( first time owner) , and do not spend more than $ 200 for used or new one and you will win .
I think buying a 200$ violin is a very poor choice as it can give you an incorrect impression of playing the instrument. Rather renting to buy a more expensive instrument would be better.
As someone with a sizeable collection of stringed instruments of various kinds, including a few violins, violas, and cellos, most of which I’m afraid I play poorly at best, but enjoy playing all the same, I can attest that best value is pretty much always to be found in a used player grade or good student grade instrument, as opposed to a new instrument anywhere on the spectrum, and that very good deals are often available to someone who understands the basics of instrument setup (as many new instruments are put in the hands of new players with very poor setups), and even better deals are available for someone who has an understanding of what is involved in some of the more commonly required major or minor repairs and some capability to do for themselves at least some of the more basic repairs. A prospective fiddle owner should, before starting to shop, try to understand proper bridge placement and how to maintain correct bridge contact when tuning or changing strings, the function and correct location of the sound post, what correct tuner function looks and feels like, and how to deal with slipping tuners, and have some understanding of what correct neck angle and action height should look like. New instruments, even if well set up when they leave the factory or when sold at retail, almost always experience some significant shifting and movement in their first couple of years, as wooden tops, necks, bridges, and internal bracing get used to living under tension from strings and acclimate to the weather in their new home. Someone who can look at an instrument a couple of years old and understand what setup adjustments it now requires and who can make those adjustments to suit their own playing style and preferences is likely to have an instrument which will play well for many years.
Any good violin shop will have invested a lot of effort in finding a good range of starter instruments, and they will invest the time into setting them up properly. And they will normally offer a leasing arrangement to new players, so they don't have to make too much of a commitment up front. For most people, this if by far the best way to go. If you can't afford what they offer, you probably can't afford to learn the violin - unless you can find a loan service from a school or community programme. Because new players need a playable instrument with a decent tone - otherwise they will simply become frustrated and give up.
The Problem is your industry puts an unreasonable price on decent instrument . All decent instruments need to be made to high tolerances to work well. My more then professional instruments at $2500 is cheaper the the cost of a intermediate cello . The real problem is the cost of student instruments in your industry . Be serious why do violins come with friction pegs ? When basses have had geared tunersfor 200 years .
I hear you loud and clear big fella but your pi55ing up a rope trying to get the first time instrument buyer to consider the finer points of instrument purchase. Cars are a fair comparison but like I said its a tough gig. Good luck
I've seen it over and over. Parents wanting to purchase the cheapest instrument. I always recommend that they return those $75 specials. They are Instrument shaped objects! I often make the analogy, you wouldn't wear shoes that give you blisters. they must be comfortable to wear and walk in them. otherwise you will not wear them again. A musical instrument must also be comfortable to play and be able to produce music. It should be a pleasurable experience. If that doesn't work, I throw in... video game consoles cost more!
this is an infomercial, you will learn nothing
When do you start talking about Determining an Instrument's Quality & Value
Yep, he’s just talking about how not to get screwed. Which is important, too.
In conclusion, if your kid wants to learn violin, and you only have $100 in your pocket.. forget about $89 violin from Amazon.. just give up
Just rent a proper student instrument from a reputable violin maker
Where I live, I pay 20€/month in rent for a decent beginner instrument with bow, case, shoulder rest, maintenance, and insurance. If I ever want to buy the instrument, the money I paid for renting it will count towards the buying price for up to 2 years. I feel that's pretty fair. But yes, violin is not the most affordable instrument to learn. 100$ might give you 4-5 months of violin, but you'll also need to pay for lessons.
@@Sarah-oj7bh
lessons are optional !!!
youtube and the now available ai can help you a lot more than you think
though it is better to have an irl teacher, the free resources are better for those who only have the instrument budget
Welp im learning on a 60$ violin KIT and that is australian dollars… and guess what, it aint holding me back…
@@sirspongadoodle
I got a violin for 80$ and its straight from italy and brand new
I get you 🔥
cheap is always Good for me, but do not buy new violin if you are new( first time owner) , and do not spend more than $ 200 for used or new one and you will win .
I think buying a 200$ violin is a very poor choice as it can give you an incorrect impression of playing the instrument. Rather renting to buy a more expensive instrument would be better.
As someone with a sizeable collection of stringed instruments of various kinds, including a few violins, violas, and cellos, most of which I’m afraid I play poorly at best, but enjoy playing all the same, I can attest that best value is pretty much always to be found in a used player grade or good student grade instrument, as opposed to a new instrument anywhere on the spectrum, and that very good deals are often available to someone who understands the basics of instrument setup (as many new instruments are put in the hands of new players with very poor setups), and even better deals are available for someone who has an understanding of what is involved in some of the more commonly required major or minor repairs and some capability to do for themselves at least some of the more basic repairs. A prospective fiddle owner should, before starting to shop, try to understand proper bridge placement and how to maintain correct bridge contact when tuning or changing strings, the function and correct location of the sound post, what correct tuner function looks and feels like, and how to deal with slipping tuners, and have some understanding of what correct neck angle and action height should look like.
New instruments, even if well set up when they leave the factory or when sold at retail, almost always experience some significant shifting and movement in their first couple of years, as wooden tops, necks, bridges, and internal bracing get used to living under tension from strings and acclimate to the weather in their new home. Someone who can look at an instrument a couple of years old and understand what setup adjustments it now requires and who can make those adjustments to suit their own playing style and preferences is likely to have an instrument which will play well for many years.
What kind of magic trick was this supposed to be Penn? I kid.
Such great information. I am in Redding, CA but so wish your store was near me.
Any good violin shop will have invested a lot of effort in finding a good range of starter instruments, and they will invest the time into setting them up properly. And they will normally offer a leasing arrangement to new players, so they don't have to make too much of a commitment up front. For most people, this if by far the best way to go.
If you can't afford what they offer, you probably can't afford to learn the violin - unless you can find a loan service from a school or community programme. Because new players need a playable instrument with a decent tone - otherwise they will simply become frustrated and give up.
He is correct with many points in his video.
thank you brother
very good video
The Problem is your industry puts an unreasonable price on decent instrument . All decent instruments need to be made to high tolerances to work well. My more then professional instruments at $2500 is cheaper the the cost of a intermediate cello . The real problem is the cost of student instruments in your industry . Be serious why do violins come with friction pegs ? When basses have had geared tunersfor 200 years .
I hear you loud and clear big fella but your pi55ing up a rope trying to get the first time instrument buyer to consider the finer points of instrument purchase. Cars are a fair comparison but like I said its a tough gig. Good luck
😂 not even a single useful tip. Lol.