Most work is without real world effect. We need to just accept that there are essential workers and then there is an abundance of people who want things but have no real work to do to trade for it.
I have been working with an entirely Gen Z startup and they are fast, efficient, super respectful, and know how to balance work and life. Their drive is something to look forward to. As a millennial, not having to work in a toxic workplace is a blessing ❤
I am a millennial from the later end (1991) I resonate with Gen Z. Hustle Culture was a complete joke and I learned the hard way that hard work does not mean better rewards. You don’t really need much money to live a fulfilling life and that is something I embrace!
I got into the workforce in early 2000 and that's when I started seeing the decline in work/employee relationships. I think I got a good 5 years in of a healthy work environment before everything started going down the drain House is paid off now. I don't have high-end anything. Clothes are from Walmart. I have generic soda beside me right now, laying under cheap blankets in a warm room with two happy dogs lying on both sides of me. I ain't pushing for more. I'm content.
As a successful business owner raised with old fashioned values myself you've got it right. Money means next to nothing it's just the vehicle for the stresses of modern life, what matters is people, the people around you, the effect you can have on them and them on you. If you really needed to most people could survive in the woods with a lean too and a fire and be content in living their every day as long as you had the occasional meaningful interaction, if people had the skills nowadays that is.
I'm nearly 40, and continuously said its all garbage since I was a teen. Instead I tell guys be good with a screwdriver, learn life skills, hard skills and work where actual work gets done. Stay away from debt, live below your means.
@@sookendestroy1 Its impossible for people to get along. Friendship is obsolete and family values have completely vaporized all thanks to the boomers. Boomers run the show and hold all capital and the younger ones are just disposable cogs, automatons waiting to fall off into the bin once used. Value systems don't mean anything unless money comes into the hands of people to incentivize them to have better lives instead its going to be hand-to-mouth eternally.
As a millennial, we tried to do what are Gen Z are doing currently. We were attacked badly by the Boomers, got called lazy and other stuff. Also we couldn't succeed since back then we were the minority. Now since there is less boomers and more Gen Zs in the workplace, I hope this will finally be achieved.
Thank you for starting the efforts because without y’all, we wouldn’t have the tick to stand up for ourselves and our time. I’m starting in academia and I will not be run over or “disciplined” into being subservient by any professor. They are trying (especially the oldest mentor I had), but I continue to stand resilient. Thank you!
Until the last Boomer has retired, you will have no peace. Gen X is with you. We wish these miracles could happen, but boomers are working into their 90s...
Profit in terms of dollars are at an all time high, and they always will be… However, profits as a percent of assets or equity are not at all time highs… Most companies are happy with a positive net income, and really happy if they can make 5-10% after all expenses, taxes, etc… You are have made a flawed conclusion based on the few companies each year that have unusually high profits, usually due to extraordinary circumstances which are not recurring… According to Prof. Bessembinder, 4% of the public companies each year have provided all the returns of the whole U.S. stock market while the other 96% of the common stocks have either provided negative results or just kept their original values. Maybe if you took an economics class you would understand that which you clearly do not!
They're not smart. They have numerous benefits, freedoms and have the privilege of being Young at a time where the world is the most advanced its ever been since the 80s. Nobody is this out spoken and selfish unless they know they can afford to be. So millennial aren't smart? We didnt have it the same as them. They didn't grow up with it being hammered in their head that an expensive degree was the only way to survive and that working at a fast food or food place in general was an immense shame, the second closest shame to being homeless. Now the world has changed drastically in the last 16 years and now the jobs us millennial got brained washed into believing would be shameful and the end for us are paying equal or more than what a school teacher makes. Gen Z has access to technologies, social media and the concept of trends, community and making a culture out of things like being gay that didn't exist back then. I'm straight but Gen z didn't grow up when 90% of media & publications was extremely sexist, racist, crass, and there wasn't any celebration or public embracing for being queer. Now cause of the Kardashians and Gen Z that has changed which is great but they are just more outspoken cause they can afford to be.
As a Gen X with two Gen Z daughters I applaud this. I myself am semi retired at 52 and have reinvigorated my original love of painting. Pro union? Tick. Quiet quitting? Tick. Work life balance? Tick. What were we thinking by putting education as a top priority, then saddling these young people up with huge debt, then creating an impossible housing crisis? Then ignoring the environment? Then telling them how important mental health is, but calling them lazy when they put their mental health as a priority? This modern world is hypocritical. Big business pretended to care about mental health while enjoying record low wages and high profits. I’m excited to see where this goes. I stand with Gen Z
just like gen z, you get close to the answer then dance right past it lol. this is a eurocentric cultural phenomenon. because eurocentric culture has 110% revolved around the ruling class behaving as if they are trying to become monarchs instead of participating in a democratic society, there is a huge demand that there be a totally servile minded population who's main focus in life is "making more money for me lord" and when that starts to change, it scares the p!ss out of the wealthy eurocentrics. they truly believe if society doesnt operate like a monarchy, then all of civilization will collapse. ffs, they cant even accept people not wanting to live through traditional eurocentric marriages lol.
You support lazyness, stupidity, not knowing anything. I understant now why these little nothing have become empty and useless. Oh sorry, I've just seen your profil. You don't even exist.
As a millennial with tons of debt due to acquiring higher education which was drilled into us to be the recipe for success, I absolutely resonate with working smarter not harder. People are tired of working to barely survive… they aren’t lazy they are innovative and very well informed about quality of life.
I’m a GenXer who realized this in 2017 when I burnt out from back-to-back high stress jobs at Fortune 200 companies that squeezed every bit of energy you had. I saved a lot of money, quit my job in 2018, sold all my stuff and did nothing but travel and decompress for a year. I ended up coming back to work and made a switch to a non-profit so it’s a slower and kinder environment but I still have my plan to save save save and retire early so I can focus on something fun and fulfilling. I’m so proud of these young women and young workers fighting back! As large as a generation as they are, they WILL succeed…I’m sure of it! They are seriously “matching corporate America’s energy” (its jot personal, it’s business hahaha) and Corp America is losing their sh*t! I love it! ❤❤
For three years I worked four days a week. It really changed me as you do the most important work and had enough time to rest. I was far more motivated at work.
I applaud these intelligent members of Gen Z! I’m Gen X, did everything “right”, and feel like I was a fool. I was the model loyal employee. I didn’t realize the loyalty was one-sided. And bravo for acknowledging reproductive labor!!
I sign up at 8 in the morning in a office with no one else to talk. I leave at any time between 6.30 - 8.30. I'm dying inside out. I have huge respect for Gen Z. Edit: Hi All, Thank so much for the love. A small update my office got shifted to the city thankfully. But the long office hours are still there like 8 - 6, 7... Even though less tired and I'm eating well. Thank you so much. The people I don't know cared a lot❤️❤️
You need to make friends outside of work otherwise you will die for sure I was in the same boat during the pandemic but I decided I needed to get out with other people and now I'm living but I still work hard for so little money and I still hate it
@@eagledice2008 I have no time. To reach at 8 am I have to leave at 6.20 am. And after signing off I will reach home by somewhere between 8pm - 10 pm. I bearly have time to eat. Forget about exercise and talking to people. In a week I bearly talk to people. I don't have a car or any other vehicle so I have to take public transport and that will take for ever. It will be very expensive and out my hands if I move to a nearer place. My life really sucks. If I leave on time, 5 pm. I can manage. But no way on earth that is happening. I have to pay off my family debt so I need the money. And exploitation only happens to people who are in need.
@@jimmyjay689Exactly, family is something that gives you meaning other than work. You boomers really don't have meaning to your life besides work huh? No wonder your kids had to raise themselves.
@@jac23538 Read my comment as many times as necessary before it makes sense what I actually said. 7 people were able to decipher what I meant so you have enough brain power to do it as well if you actually take the time to do it. Ready...set...go...
I got burnt out the second year into my dream job, and after I left I've developed this culture of slow work, where even tho I'm slower with my production, my quality and work life balance has sky rocketed. I'm not gen z, and I scoff at anyone bragging about "hard" work at this point, when they really mean that they just put in a lot of extra hours to speed through a poorly thought out project.
I'm like that with school. I may progress slower through concepts or units of material in a curriculum, but in the long-term, I find that I ultimately retain the information a lot better in my long-term memory. The alternative, which I abhor and try my best to avoid, is following the practice of cramming a bunch of information in my head to regurgitate it for an exam, but then only having it in my short-term memory and not having truly mastered the material, and then forgetting it like a couple weeks to a couples months later anyway.
Exactly! I favor efficiency and quality of work over longer hours and pretending to work hard. There is a huge difference between being busy and being productive. I focus on output in the given amount of time and energy. I'm not lazy. I'm not wasting time or energy.
So glad ppl are realizing work is everything. Remote work has made life better. No wasting time commuting and no more small talk in the office. Dream come true! Also, working barely meets basic needs so why should it be the most important thing in life.
Currently hybrid but would rather fully remote with 1-2 days required in office a month or something bc I agree about those benefits. The lack of commuting and not having to do the boring small talk.
As a millennial I 1000% agree with these girls. I am not loyal to my job and employer. I will quit/ leave if and when I want and I prefer to work for what I care about. I don't trust companies and employers.
As a millennial I can confirm that we have the worst work culture than any of our previous generations have experienced. I'm with gen z on this one. Work life balance is a must.
not possible in this economy.. as a gen z myself I disagree and a 4 day work week isn't possible we need more nurses and doctors and engineers i'm a 22 year old nurse and when working with other gen zers they couldn't handled the bare minimum.. not saying all are like this but something really needs to change
@@cocolove9916 Couldn't agree more. As a millennial factory worker I dream of 4day weeks! Unfortunately i can barely afford working 40hrs. I'm very fortunate my factory makes us work 7day weeks 6+ months a year. It enables me to pay my bills with far less stress of being completely broke before my next check....BUT it's beyond exhausting & tbh dehumanizing. Work life balance? Wtf is that? Lol Tis a double edged sword for sure but im thankful af for it. 4 day weeks & at home jobs are great if you're e lucky enough to have that opportunity. The western world needs far more trade/factory/health workers than corporate/office workers in order to run. Especially with what the current workforce calls work, bc it's anything but. The lack of hard workers now is the exact reason I'm made to work so much overtime, production in the automotive industry is at an all time low if at all. It's very depressing overall. Not sure how 4hr weeks would work for those of us whose job description is to work however many hours corporate decrees 😅
I am a baby boomer who has lived with the ridiculous corporate hustle mentality. I was recently age discriminated against and fired by a large global corporation where I was just a number on a spreadsheet. I believe these younger adults are 100% on track! Change is necessary! I support everything I heard in these interviews!!
They value you if you have skills to value… Get a degree in a STEM related field, or go to a trade school, and continually learn… Do that and you can make six figures easily… I work with, or know, some people that did four years in the navy, were trained as electricians or in information systems security, and now make over $100k per year…
@@EarlHaywardI work in the tech field now, earn a nice salary and lead a team of very capable professionals. I can tell you - having the skills isn’t enough. I’ve had to layoff people that had degrees, professional certifications and were “good fits” for the organization. When your company forces layoffs- your skills won’t matter when their goal is a headcount reduction. Have a backup plan….trust me.
Agree - GenX here- when companies consider you just as a number on the paper, I am not surprised that the new generation adapts to this and do not put all their eggs in one basket.
@@EarlHayward STEM folks are just as disposable as any one else. Regardless of how “good” you are, in the end you are just a cost center “resource” on a balance sheet you never get to see, maintained by someone you do not know. The larger the corp, the worse it is. They’ll come for you eventually.
Millenial here (1992).. had a taste of work life when I was 21 and it broke a piece of me.. after that I got into farming and entrepreneurship. I'm way more productive when I'm able to approach work on my own time. I get time to spend with family, I have more time to spend on self development like reading and learning other languages etc., and I have higher energy levels when I step back into my work space. ✊🏾
And there is no benefit. We can’t afford anything: not housing, not rent to live on our own with skyrocketing prices, cost of living, exorbitant loans, etc.
As a Gen Xer, I completely agree with the young adults. I have been working since 16 and have always felt like I was operating under duress to this very day. We should be doing everything we can to be productive members of society, but we should be better proponents of a fair work-life balance. I don't mind performing meaningful and purposeful work, but I have always hated busy-work. It's completely unnecessary and a waste of time. Do your work and get it done right and timely, but when there is downtime, relax and take it easy until the next real task comes along your way. Rinse and repeat. What is so wrong with that??
@@mikethemechanic7395 , yep my pops made me get a part-time job too while I was in HS. Been working full-time ever since, but freedom is on the horizon 😁
As a millennial, I feel schadenfreude towards my former and current bosses in knowing what they will have to ‘deal’ with. After they did things to me like taking money off my check (for having changed the computer during working hours) and being told the reason is I wasn’t producing. How am I supposed to produce with a defective computer? They wanted me to use my personal (unpaid) time for doing that. So, no I don’t feel bad for those mfs. They took advantage of my need for work, but times are changing and I’ll be there, rejoicing with my popcorn in hand.
I sincerely hope Gen z and all future generations are able to beat the system and escape the mindless rat race my generation (millennials) and past generations were indoctrinated into believing in the key for success and only way to live an adult life. Good going gen z!
millennials didnt get indoctrinated. we got murdered with labor induced starvation. just like the other 99% of the human species who is not born into a well off eurocentric family.
As a millennial, we tried to do what are Gen Z are doing currently. We were attacked badly by the Boomers, got called lazy and other stuff. Also we couldn't succeed since back then we were the minority. Now since there is less boomers and more Gen Zs in the workplace, I hope this will finally be achieved.
The problem with these generalisation is that they don’t fit. I’m technically a millennial and the “rat race” wasn’t part of our mindset. I was born in the mid-90s. Many things claimed to be “millennial” isn’t really millennial. The things claimed to be “generation z” was started by millennials.
I'm proud of the young people. Let's hope this becomes a force that can change society. I can see the need of having more democracy at work aligning with this philosophy.
Goes to show it's not that us younger workers (Millennial and younger) are "lazy", but we're burned out doing more cognitive lift than previous generations. Older generations had full on careers doing mindless, simple, busy work that paid a living wage where one could raise a family on a single income. Level of responsibility and complexity even in entry-level roles have quadrupled since the '90s while wages have fallen abysmally behind. If anything, we're being cheated. It'd behoove corporations to give people a 6-8 week sabbatical every 2 years to keep employees engaged and motivated to stay.
tell europe you appreciate them taking the value of the rest of the worlds work and using it to build copious architecture to look down at us all from.
Older generations built everything you enjoy today, literally… So, if you think your generation is doing more cognitive work, just list a few companies, products, technologies, or ideas that your generations is responsible for the creation and development of…
That is so true. And to the rest on this thread, the point is that they could afford to live on the minimum wage on ANY job! Now, only a few jobs pay for the quality of life that is basic.
Gen Z isn’t lazy, they just don’t want to be the next generation that has to accept that this is the way things are especially when it’s become significantly worse for them. As a millennial we saw these systems fail our parents and our peers. Hard work might have been rewarded in our grandparent’s day and we were told we live in a meritocracy but we’ve learned it’s all smoke and mirrors and it’s made us jaded. Gen Z has the balls to address it and call for a change rather than bend over backwards and continue to make it worse for the future. When someone had to grind 60-80 hours a week to make ends meet that shouldn’t be some badge of honor, it should be an eye opener so that the average person doesn’t have to do the same.
Working people need to organise. That is always what it comes back to. Unionising is how we get better conditions, work hours, pay, etc. There is less you can do on your own to improve your work life, much more can be done together.
unions still have ruling classes. you need to stop eurocentric hegemony. otherwise the ruling class will perpetually behave like monarchists who are trying their hardest to get their throne.
Truth!!! Unionizing is key to change. Wondering though, how do Gen Z'ers think they'll afford a house and retirement by working fewer hours? I haven't been able to figure this one out yet.
@@krisholmes8569We won’t get retirement, only the current boomers get that. For housing, either inherit a house from parents or buy a storage unit/RV to live in. We are fcked and headed back to uncivilized times. Maybe your generation will be included.
@unc1221 yes, retirement seems like a pipe dream for sure, even for my generation. Hustling for what you want has been "the American Dream" for many decades now. The key, in my opinion, is to work hard, be smart with your money, and live a simple life. Save & invest as you can... it has never been "easy"... there are definitely ways we can improve, but we'll see what the future holds.
If you've been through a layoff with these companies, you won't have any issue with their mindsets, Knowlanne spoke explicitly on that, and I LOVE IT!! Prioritize yourself, we are all just head counts to these companies..
Because they understand that hustle doesn't actually get you anywhere anymore, at least in the workplace. Intelligent application of effort in the right places at the right times is the way to promotions.
It doesn't get anywhere cause now you have the option to make money in many ways without a degree and a company behind you or a contracted career. These options weren't bountiful back in the day let's stop acting like they're magical unicorns with all the answers.
I've been saying this for years that my job is a part of my day but its not how I define myself my coworker was confused and mentioned that I have so much potential so why do I not have any ambition 🤦 unfortunately she didn't understand not being a corporate slave or part of the hustle culture was my ambition
So true. Plus, that's a very narrow idea of what ambition is. I am super ambitious about my goals, but my goal is not to work corporate or climb imaginary ladders. If anything, your coworker is the true unambitious one because they are following a script someone else wrote for them rather than living up to their own potential.
Nobody wants to go to work for a slave wage and non-living wage for 40-80 hours a week with no personal life anymore. Who wants to go above and beyond at work and not being compensated or promoted to higher pay for their hard work and still can’t afford a basic living. Who is going to work themselves to death or to an early grave and not even making a basic living wage to survive day to day.
Good luck Gen Z...as a Gen X I tried these ideas out when I was younger. The result for me was losing job after job and being socially isolated during the Pandemic. That lack of prolonged employment led to having very few friends. I sincerely hope you fine folks will find answers that don't end in isolation and poverty which has been my reality for decades
_Ownership culture._ This awfully sounds like Scrum BS culture. Obsessed with constantly delivering illogical every 2-weeks, no matter what, you gotta deliver "something". The client isn't even interested anymore and won't update until the current fiscal quarter ends anyway
Wouldn't it be gorgeous 😍💭🥲 More time to relax, do housework, see friends, hang out with pets and family. The demand for third spaces would be huge and we would get that back. I hope it becomes the norm in the next few years. If everyone advocates for it in their yearly reviews I think it will slowly become a thing
only barely starting to wake up if labor value is the only thing you are questioning lol. wait until you learn the truth about inflations cause lol. or how the ruling class doesnt pay taxes but instead gets paid trillions of dollars each year from the government instead.
Gen X here (49) With Gen Alpha kids(10). I am glad Gen Z have changed the workplace. When I first started in my field in 2000. No one took time off for doctor appointments. If you did. It had to be a vacation day. You would get harassed for taking breaks. We would get yelled at for any family issues that made us leave work. The last few years. Any appointment I have to do. I can leave anytime. I can make up my time. I don’t work the weekends. I get to spend lots of time with my kids. When I work overtime. I show up 4am-12. And have the rest of the weekend. I get to take 3 weeks off and not get harassed. Gen Z have changed the workplace. I love it. I used to give 120 percent to my jobs for years. Worked all holidays and weekends. Not anymore. I am blue collar. I was recruited to my current job. My kids college is paid for and I received a hiring bonus. My employer knows. I can get a job in one day.
none of this is saying that you can't be those things, or dedicated. It's about calling out the toxic culture of working yourself to death, at the expense of the rest of your entire life/connections to others.
Yes. Something to consider in those fields is that you can move up and get "promoted" based on performance. In corporate America in retail, customer service a person can complete a shift or project and be fired the moment it is over. Fired without reason without a servance package. Companies want more time more energy but do not want to pay.
I'm against illegal immigration, but a teacher I work with mentioned that's one reason it's being allowed. The USA won't have future doctors, engineers, IT Specialists, etc if we had to rely on Gen Z & Alphas. Do I like this fact? No. But what can we do when most American students play around in class while the immigrant students who barely speak English quickly complete assignments and not misbehaving?
@QQ251647742 can AI replace doctors, lawyers, construction workers, police and firemen/women??? While I totally agree with work-life balance, let's be real about the need for money to buy the things...
I think back to when I was 17 at my first job at Kmart and mangers talked down to me, called me stupid to my face, I thought it was just something I had to put up with. Good for Gen Z for enforcing boundaries and demanding respect at such a young age. Everyone is entitled to a respectful workplace.
The good career jobs exits, but if your not willing to play their games then you will be fired. 40 hours plus a week used to be good but with higher costs of living it no longer makes sense to work so hard. Mental health and quality of work life balance Is so important now.
I am a millennial in the corporate world and it is a boldfaced lie that they value their employees and consider us a family. These statements are just a formality. We are simply statistics on a graph to them and not human beings. I have realized that what my parents taught me is success, is actually back breaking blood, sweat and tears for a company that does not care about my well-being. Peace of mind is priceless and seems to be a luxury when working in the corporate world and you realize your health is not worth sacrificing for these managers.
I’m a millennial, been called lazy my entire career even when I worked 12 hr days and didn’t take my lunch. I worked in a very understaffed office. Boss was a boomer, they believe we should live and breathe our jobs and treat it like it’s our own business. Gets upset when we leave on time. All while paying us pennies. They are very difficult to work for, everything was our fault and any concerns and situations out of our control was written off as an excuse for not able to meet our sales numbers. Nothing was ever good enough. I saw how hard the Gen X fought and us millennials didn’t do much better. Glad I left for a place with a younger demographic. I’ve worked with Gen Z they are wonderful colleagues. Very smart and efficient, they also know their boundaries. I support them! Hopefully things finally turn around.
From my experience I’ve watched so many people put in there blood sweat and tears into a company that essentially could careless about them. They view them as replaceable no matter how hard they worked for decades. Then they look back and realize how much time they missed on the things that really matter such as family. Time with my family WILL ALWAYS BE MY PRIORITY. Why is it a crime to want good work life balance. These jobs aren’t paying well anyway. It’s like being in an abusive relationship.
@@eplugplay8409 absolutely, you’re not obligated to stay anywhere. I agree. But older generations misinterpret this as not being dedicated which is stupid. Just like that company is going to do what it needs to do to benefit itself people should be able to do the same
I do not think I am in Gen Z, but I am with them on the fact I am not grinding to die in the end. I am vacationing and then leaving this earth. I will be putting in for PTO even if I don;t have any. My family comes first and making memories. Once you die, your job will send flowers if they liked you and then replace your position.
I’m gen z, joined the military 3mos post high school, didn’t squander my money or make big purchases, used my education benefits sparingly in between working and here I am almost a decade later in the service and I STILL have to work 2 add’t civilian jobs just to make ends meet-and most of us do who are active duty contrary to popular belief! I am now a Reservist and my military experience/education means NOTHING in this job market yet all of Gen X told me my “sacrifice” would be respected & appreciated yet that couldn’t be further from the truth when trying to land a job. These companies treat you like a revolving # and replace you when you call out issues-yet demand your entire essence. I will gladly “quiet quit, lazy girl job” and whatever else to try and gain some type of normal life balance. The “old ways” don’t work anymore and it’s high time society accepts it.
Conversely, I work with some Gen Z individuals that spent 4 years in the military, do not have a college degree, and now make six figures (not to mention great benefits, stock options, and work life balance)… So, maybe you picked a MOS that didn’t allow for you to develop valuable skills in the open market…
My apologies you happen to be what many in the older generations call a sucker, you sacrificed so they didnt have to and now you have even less, it doesnt help that now people from across the political spectrum discriminate against military and veterans. Either seeing them as losers who failed to die for their country or problematic for engaging in the military to begin with.
@@EarlHayward my AFSC is HIGHLY sought after. Logistics. I can do procurement, planning, material management, even a certain level of Intel with an ACTIVE SECRET clearance. The problem is I always get told my military experience doesn’t “translate smoothly into the civilian side” aka we can’t sucker you by paying you at an entry level eventhough I’m more than capable of learning and building my way up. They would rather a fresh college grad and pay them the bare minimum than an experienced Loggie.
Try civil service work. I did after the Navy. Full pension, health/dental. Investment fund. Job security. Fireman. Police. EMT. Sheriff. Correction Officer. Tons of jobs hiring all the time. Everyone goes private but that's for suckers. Even in Florida you can be a cop at like... 50+. Veterans also get preference in civil hirings, extra points on exams that non-vets don't get, AND you can buy back your service time. VA house loan. C'mon! What actually have you been doing since you got out? Why don't you know this stuff?
@@EarlHayward That. I mean at the least, he can get a VA loan. So civil service, save up, job security. It's only a 5 year grind as a civil servant to become established. He/she must have criminal history which bars them from it, but they can still be fireman, emt, etc even with a record.
I agree with Gen z on this one. I'm Gen X and I'm tired of working making money for other people. Work life balance is good.America just runs on work slave labor tbh. I hate it!
“Career” and “work” include so much more than the paid jobs that we have. Career includes studies, volunteering, family roles and responsibilities, caregiving, all of the “work” roles that we take on. Being “anti-career” and “anti-work” is misusing the terms. We all have careers. We all work, whether this includes paid work or not.
My husband is 53, works for Visy recycling and works 4 days on 4 days off. We love it as I'm a stay at home homeschooling mother and we get to see more of him.
I’m a millennial and I can tell u I work smart not hard and I offer this to my team, have all the flexibility you want and get interesting projects as long as u deliver that’s all that matters.
As a GenX I appreciate anyone who is efficient and don’t have time for mindless work and business! GenZ are literally showing us what prioritizing means, and I’m here for it!
Honestly I Don’t Blame Them For Choosing to Change How it’s Done. Shame on These Big Corporations Getting Rich 🤑 Off Of the Backs of Poor People & Doing Absolutely Nothing for Us. Imagine a World Where “Everyone” Has Financial Freedom 😁 Then the Economy Can Actually Thrive. Work For Yourself & Pay Yourself First 🤑🤑🤑
Exactly that. Work has never been the most important thing in my life. Although I have worked since I graduated. You are the ones who should start reforming this whole concept of work, which, as you have said, doesn't work anymore. More and more work should never be the answer. Well done!
5 years ago I (millennial) had a "sit down" with my bosses boss ( a boomer). He asked me how i was able to come up with so many tools that increased our efficiency. I told him "Cause I'm lazy". After wipping the shocked look off his face, he leaned in and said, "I bulit my career on lazy"
As a millennial, I started working in 2014 after being granted my work permit. I had to work long hours because I was saving up for nursing school. I wanted to pay my tuition without resorting to loans. I finished my associates in 2018 and my Baccalaureate in 2022 DEBT-FREE. When I started working as a nurse, I purposely chose not to work in a rush work environment. Regardless of age, healthcare is a stressful field with HIGH RISK for burnout. I am still young. I want to work without getting burned out in the process because I enjoy what I do.
Very smart...I went into the high stress environments to get as much experience as possible under my belt and all it did is give me a bad case of burnout...I thoroughly hate working in hospitals now. Overtime is another common rookie mistake, after almost 10 years doing a ton of overtime, nighshifts, and hustling "to get all that moolah" 😂, now I can barely stomach doing the standard 36 hours, I'll usually drop down to 24 hours a week even if it means living like a broke college student...don't care anymore 😂😂. Definitely take care of your health first, healthcare will let you work yourself to an early grave if you let it... unfortunately I've already seen it happen many times.
As a millennial I agree with Gen z ! I used to be consume with hustle culture prior pandemic , I’ve been working since I was 16 . After being laid off during the pandemic I worked. Remote and still do I enjoy the work life balance boomers are just hard to work with and their mentality of just work work work breathing down my neck let’s not get into the toxic work culture. My job ends when I clock out and focus my life not someone else’s dream (employer). For whoever is reading this ! YOUR JOB TITLE , POSITION, WAGE DOESNT MATTER. In the end your employer does not care about you 😂
My(26F) life is my two boys and my husband. I’ve been raising them at home for the past four years and eventually plan to return to work. No college because I don’t think it’s for me after two failed attempts of going. I’ll do it my way, I saw my mom give herself to a company and they screwed her over.
I understand that they want a better balance between life and work but the problem is that they also want the big salary without working hard. When I listen my son's friends they all think that it is easy to earn 200K and way more without working hard. So when they start their life by themselves they are evidently deceived. We, parents, spoiled that generation which is used to immediate pleasure so their expectations of life are unrealistics. So they will be sad in life because it will be much harder than expected. The only one who will be happy will be those who will accept to lower down their expectations.
You’re correct. Content creation can bring in that kind of money but it’s unsustainable. Eventually the future generations will end up going back to traditional work. Hard work is what built up and paved the way for lazy girl work . Technology allows for flexibility and more time. You cannot have leisure without someone working hard for it. They think that they are escaping something and perhaps they are but that is because they are foolish. Foolish about where things come from and how the world works.
lol ok boomer. Traditional work will soon be a thing of the past. Tech and AI will soon get rid or reduce “traditional” work. Employers want higher productivity and tech will help them do that with less humans to pay wages, healthcare or give time off.
With energy degrowt in coming years, technologies consuming electricity will become useless. So develop manual competencies for a world that will probably look like in 1800. @@Orpheus_x
I worked with people with that type of mindsets. It's very narrow minded because they see what worked for them (in the past) should have work for you in the present. Never considering the changes that took place. There are multifactorial variables that are difference like inflation, the cost of living and automation. - Different times and circumstance.
I'm a gen x'er. I own a company. I am one of the people in my generation that thinks we need to shorten the work day (and that productivity and creativity will improve when we do) and that what matters is what you're working for, not the work itself (although the work itself matters, it's just that what we will remember in life is what we did with people we love far more than what we accomplished in our work). If you work in any of my companies, I only care that customers are happy and the tasks get resolved and otherwise, I'd rather you be with your loved ones and working on the things that motivate you about life. We were, after all, promised that automation was going to reduce the work week but what happened was we just became more and more productive with less and less reward per unit of productivity since the industrial revolution and in a hyper sense since the computer revolution.
they use to say EXACLTY the same thing about milenials, and we had the same mentality only to realize by age 30 you need to work hard to make a living.
In my twenties as a Gen X, we were the slackers, we focused more on having leisure time, now in my later forties, I work too much, have too much responsibility as a small business owner, and won't be getting out of graduate college debt anytime soon.
To be fair, if it's harder for me to have the life like my parents got to have. Why would I worker harder at my job when I'm definitely not expected a raise soon to afford a decent life. No longer do we have to worry about HR rejecting our resumes. They're not even involved anymore, it's AI dictating if I get the job or not which is crazy because they would reject my resume before a human gets to see anything. As soon as I seen that my manager was dictating everything but he's completely unqualified for his position. It definitely makes you reevaluate how you choose your path in life today
I am so proud of this generation for taking a stand. It is long overdue that there should be a better worklife balance. If everyone has a four day work week, you can improve productivity and even hire more people because everyone is able to work.
As a GenXer this mindset is really difficult for me to swallow, BUT, as an AI entrepreneur I see that this is simply just a preface and easing into the upcoming “post labour economy” where individuals will have more personal time as AI takes over many aspects of labour and the job market. Hopefully this doesn’t backfire on GenZ later when they actually have to face the realities of life. As most people over 40 or 50 can attest, when you look back on the mindset you had at 20 and 30, it’s definitely different, potentially embarrassing, and possibly regretful.
At least you recognize the tides turning to a post labour economy. If we are to advance as a species we should be pursuing intellectual ambitions especially space exploration as that is the natural end goal of our species. Humans should be creating art and spending time with their friends and family and answering the questions of the universe, but instead as of now at least we have the computers creating art whilst humans labour in mind numbing work. Also, eventually you will all die and our generation will be the ones in positions of power and we can change society in our vision to fix it as your generation changed it in yours to destroy it.
What if AI assisted technologies decide that human labor is no longer needed and goes further than that to eliminate all us humans in the future ? That’s a scary thought....and before it comes to that “fork” , AI technologies must be restrained and confined to only the necessary work areas so as not to pose a threat to human existence.
I’m a Gen Xer and have no idea what you’re talking about. lol I’m not embarrassed for getting a degree and great job in my 20s. I worked from home for 18 years. Refused to do commutes. Got my employer to pay for law school. Nothing they are saying is new. I have been to 40 countries and 7 continents. Some of this is personality driven. AI implementation is going to take decades. And housing is not going to get cheaper neither is cost of living. Become entrepreneurs and learn how to invest and get passive income. Otherwise they be underfunded for retirement bc the math will continue to tick. Shocking none of that was discussed.
Do you regret your 20s? Maybe you were one of those hedonistic hipsters participating in drug and orgies experiments that lead to addiction and shameful past so you need to be "moralizing" now. But not me, my 20s were great and beautiful era
@@errrzarrrRight, so your 20's taught you to be condescending to people who are trying to be understanding of things they cannot identify with. You turned out to be quite a peach my friend.
As a millennial I learned early on that hard work didn't produce results that were worth the extra work. I've have also chosen not too have children, pets or anything that would cause me extra financial burdens in order to simplify my life. My life is not perfect but I have more time freedom then most people I meet who are always talking about work. As a result of my decisions I have been able to take long overseas trips, move to different cities and states and not worry about having to work 40 hours a week to "survive."
I think a big part of it is trust. It used to be that if you really sacrificed for your employer they would recognize and repay that relatively consistently, at least that's the rumor. Nowadays employers say they will recognize and repay(not reward, repay) but you never quite get there. This leads to no trust between the employee and employer which makes the employee unwilling to do more for the employer. If you think about it, this shouldn't be at all surprising if you've been in corporate America long enough.
The days of overworking for unfair pay are being challeneged by calling out employers and holding them to a higher standard. That's why you see so many people often switching jobs and wanting salaries to be displayed on job postings. It wouldn't be an issue if we knew we weren't getting screwed like the last generation. We just have the balls to call them out on it
Dream jobs do exist. I got extremely lucky and found mine. Been doing it for the last 14 yrs. But I got lucky! It did not come from hard work or college.
I’m a GenXer who realized this in 2017 when I burnt out from back-to-back high stress jobs at Fortune 200 companies that squeezed every bit of energy you had. I saved a lot of money, quit my job in 2018, sold all my stuff and did nothing but travel and decompress for a year to focus on my health & think through what I wanted my next 15 working years to look like. I ended up coming back to work and made a switch to a non-profit so it’s a slower and kinder environment but I still have my plan to save save save and retire early so I can focus on something fun and fulfilling. I’m so proud of these young women and young workers fighting back! As large as a generation and as vocal as they are, I know they WILL succeed…I’m sure of it! They are seriously “matching corporate America’s energy” (its jot personal, it’s business hahaha) and Corp America is losing their sh*t! I love it! ❤❤
I think it's about expectations and it depends on the career you get into. Do we want our nurses and doctors for example to quiet quit on us when we're in the hospital lol?? When I was a teacher I worked with some Gen Z teachers who just gave up at times because it was "too much" and it blew my mind, and on the flipside I've worked with some super hard working Gen Z folks. I just ever cant ever remember thinking at 23, ugh, this is too hard I'm just going to give up. The work life balance stuff is really important, but some of that is incumbent on what career you select.
I support this.. I have been working 10 to 12 hours per day 60 hours a week.. and don't even get the self respect forget about promotion and salary raise
I mean they do have a point as far as not being treated just like a number and being able to stand up to companies and their bosses and say hey if you want us to work for you and be productive we need Fair pay fair treatment a work-life balance because at the end of the day companies can fire you for cause and yet they want a 2 weeks before you leave but they don't give you two weeks notice before they let you go. And a lot of people are waking up to this and saying no more. You are a boss at work but you're not going to control my life and there are many other opportunities out there and a lot of self-made people things to the Internet etcetera. So a lot of companies are unnoticed either take care of your employees or you won't have a company
Just read about a social media content creator who moved to Ireland from the US. She absolutely loved it. Entered the job market over there. After a year she realized she wasn't making the same amount of income as she was back in the States. So she moved back and settled in Boston. After another year of being bavk in the States, she realized she made a big mistake. Yeah she was making better pay, but the burden and demands of worklife here in the States was a much lower overall quality of life for her. Over there in Europe it was the law for employers to provide 20 weeks per year of FULLY PAID vacation time. Sure the money was lower pay but so was the cost of living! As a result it was so much easier for her to save up money much faster. I suspect she might say "screw the US" and move back to Ireland as a permanent resident.
European countries have the advantages of much smaller populations who pay much MUCH higher taxes, and it's not always all sunshine and rainbows over there either.
@@keithbell9348 It varies widely. Ireland currently has a population of 5.3M and has the 3rd highest GDP per capita in the world, and theirs is nearly 50% higher than ours. Despite this, tens of thousands of Irish still leave Ireland in search of a better life abroad.
Gen Z is smart. They’ve learned that corporate America and other employers (government and non-profit) do not reward employee loyalty or productivity (an antiquated idea from the 50s). They want to squeeze as much as they can out of their workers for the lowest pay they can get away with while cutting benefits. I worked hard, got an education, have a good paying job and home ownership isn’t even a possibility with the high cost of living, and sky high rent. Born on the border Gen X and older millennials, I’m personally glad this generation is giving corporate America the middle finger and saying no to toxic work culture.
Nah, that problem is caused by rampant alcoholism and drug addiction, and is enabled by millennial and Gen Z 'activists' who think that if we 'build more housing' that the legions of partying druggies will suddenly get off the street, get jobs, (oh wait, we don't want jobs any more) and live a normal life. But none of that is happening because it's a failed narrative.
I applaud Gen Z! I'm older and self-employed now. When I look back at my W-2 career, each of my positions was difficult because of enslaved mindset of my leadership. Working 60-70 hours per week was never enough. The company bottom line trumps employee personal life. Abuse from leadership within organizations is common. Egoes, career sabotage and slavery in the workplace are the 3 biggest issues in all industries. No one goes to work to stroke the egoes of leadership. Corporate leadership believes in making their workforce into sharks and piranhas. They throw chum in the water with promises of promotion as long as they are willing cannibalize their own. There are expectations to commit yourself to your career and company without any guarantees for employment. Companies are not committed to employees nearly as much as they ask of the employees. Nothing about this is attractive. Who wants to feel enslaved and disposable? Who wants to live in fear of losing their career, income and work family based on the whims of mentally unstable and immature leadership or the shifting goals of an organization?
They will inherit the world in a few decades, so do the mean “career culture” like doctors, farmers, infrastructure planners, teachers, architects, tech people, mothers, plumbers, nurses,you know people who pay taxes and keep the country functioning until they get old and helpless? I not saying they are completely wrong but they grew up in a time as kids when every benefit they had was previous generations “hustle “ culture. Do they expect this to continue when they take the foot off the accelerator? They better think the costs as well the benefits for they have to live with it.
Ive been in the workforce for over 27 years. I worked hard the first 5 years. I did not take vacations. literally saved the company a lot of money doing the work of 3 people. I asked for a raise and was denied. Since then I did what today is called quiet quitting. Fck corporations
I dont regret where i am now. I am gen y (1983) and have simple mindset, when i work (working in a corp world, 8 hrs per day, 5 days a week), i get paid to put food on the table, pay bills and spend for leisures. I only spend for what i can afford. I am an individual contributor for 13 years in 1 company and i have no ambition to get promoted, so far, the company i work for likes my work ethics, less stress and i choose to be like this. Not impacted in lay-off, so far. I am simply grateful.
It was possible to save for a house before now all your salary goes into basic expenses and the world is making everything a subscription instead of allowing ownership. So it's just survival grind without long term goals.
You know the saying that "New ideas do not just win over old ideas. Old people with old ideas die out and the new idea survives." This is that moment. The moment the old idea starts to fade away.
I think the youngsters just want to work with a sense of purpose and to be treated fairly vs. mindless busy work.
you earn that by not being an entitled nunce.
@@Pleebixxwhy should you earn that? Why should it not be a given that you have purpose? I think the younger generation have it right
I work for my kids, if Gen Z isn’t having kids, why stress?
No, they don't understand that company will prefer take AI ROBOTICS TO WORKING...NOT COMPLAINING...NOT BURNOUT... SUPRISE HAPPY COMPANY OWNERS 😂
Most work is without real world effect. We need to just accept that there are essential workers and then there is an abundance of people who want things but have no real work to do to trade for it.
I have been working with an entirely Gen Z startup and they are fast, efficient, super respectful, and know how to balance work and life. Their drive is something to look forward to. As a millennial, not having to work in a toxic workplace is a blessing ❤
start ups dont do work lol. they sell hypotheticals
Dude seems you aren't working at all 😂
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Don't be jealous that GenZ may be doing things better
so soft it is not funny
I am a millennial from the later end (1991) I resonate with Gen Z. Hustle Culture was a complete joke and I learned the hard way that hard work does not mean better rewards. You don’t really need much money to live a fulfilling life and that is something I embrace!
I got into the workforce in early 2000 and that's when I started seeing the decline in work/employee relationships. I think I got a good 5 years in of a healthy work environment before everything started going down the drain
House is paid off now. I don't have high-end anything. Clothes are from Walmart. I have generic soda beside me right now, laying under cheap blankets in a warm room with two happy dogs lying on both sides of me.
I ain't pushing for more. I'm content.
Smart! You’ve identified your “enough”.
As a successful business owner raised with old fashioned values myself you've got it right. Money means next to nothing it's just the vehicle for the stresses of modern life, what matters is people, the people around you, the effect you can have on them and them on you.
If you really needed to most people could survive in the woods with a lean too and a fire and be content in living their every day as long as you had the occasional meaningful interaction, if people had the skills nowadays that is.
I'm nearly 40, and continuously said its all garbage since I was a teen. Instead I tell guys be good with a screwdriver, learn life skills, hard skills and work where actual work gets done. Stay away from debt, live below your means.
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Its impossible for people to get along. Friendship is obsolete and family values have completely vaporized all thanks to the boomers. Boomers run the show and hold all capital and the younger ones are just disposable cogs, automatons waiting to fall off into the bin once used.
Value systems don't mean anything unless money comes into the hands of people to incentivize them to have better lives instead its going to be hand-to-mouth eternally.
As a millennial, we tried to do what are Gen Z are doing currently. We were attacked badly by the Boomers, got called lazy and other stuff. Also we couldn't succeed since back then we were the minority.
Now since there is less boomers and more Gen Zs in the workplace, I hope this will finally be achieved.
Thank you for starting the efforts because without y’all, we wouldn’t have the tick to stand up for ourselves and our time. I’m starting in academia and I will not be run over or “disciplined” into being subservient by any professor. They are trying (especially the oldest mentor I had), but I continue to stand resilient. Thank you!
Until the last Boomer has retired, you will have no peace. Gen X is with you. We wish these miracles could happen, but boomers are working into their 90s...
Good luck to all of us. It's a teamwork. Things need to be changed.
It’s just a matter of time
@Tony-so1zl I calculate about 20 more years and we'll start to see some change. Woo-hoo! 🥳 🎉
70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, and corporate profits are at a 70-year high.
and 99% of profits get laundered into europe. causing a 30%+ drop in the value of the dollar each and every year
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@@saturationstation1446 by this logic US should have become Zimbabwe by now
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Profit in terms of dollars are at an all time high, and they always will be… However, profits as a percent of assets or equity are not at all time highs… Most companies are happy with a positive net income, and really happy if they can make 5-10% after all expenses, taxes, etc… You are have made a flawed conclusion based on the few companies each year that have unusually high profits, usually due to extraordinary circumstances which are not recurring… According to Prof. Bessembinder, 4% of the public companies each year have provided all the returns of the whole U.S. stock market while the other 96% of the common stocks have either provided negative results or just kept their original values. Maybe if you took an economics class you would understand that which you clearly do not!
They are smart. What has anyone gotten after years at a corporation when they get laid off ?? They’re not fools!
but lazy
@@AJAYSWANImpossible to be lazy when wages are decades behind what they should be
@@AJAYSWANdoing nothing is not laziness it's self love and rest.
They're not smart. They have numerous benefits, freedoms and have the privilege of being Young at a time where the world is the most advanced its ever been since the 80s. Nobody is this out spoken and selfish unless they know they can afford to be. So millennial aren't smart? We didnt have it the same as them. They didn't grow up with it being hammered in their head that an expensive degree was the only way to survive and that working at a fast food or food place in general was an immense shame, the second closest shame to being homeless. Now the world has changed drastically in the last 16 years and now the jobs us millennial got brained washed into believing would be shameful and the end for us are paying equal or more than what a school teacher makes. Gen Z has access to technologies, social media and the concept of trends, community and making a culture out of things like being gay that didn't exist back then. I'm straight but Gen z didn't grow up when 90% of media & publications was extremely sexist, racist, crass, and there wasn't any celebration or public embracing for being queer. Now cause of the Kardashians and Gen Z that has changed which is great but they are just more outspoken cause they can afford to be.
@@AJAYSWANy’all expect us to sweat and kill ourselves for a company that isn’t willing to pay us to afford a roof over our head ? You’re crazy.
As a Gen X with two Gen Z daughters I applaud this. I myself am semi retired at 52 and have reinvigorated my original love of painting. Pro union? Tick. Quiet quitting? Tick. Work life balance? Tick.
What were we thinking by putting education as a top priority, then saddling these young people up with huge debt, then creating an impossible housing crisis? Then ignoring the environment? Then telling them how important mental health is, but calling them lazy when they put their mental health as a priority? This modern world is hypocritical.
Big business pretended to care about mental health while enjoying record low wages and high profits. I’m excited to see where this goes. I stand with Gen Z
So long you can pay your bills is okay. Not forget have savings money for the retirement.
just like gen z, you get close to the answer then dance right past it lol. this is a eurocentric cultural phenomenon. because eurocentric culture has 110% revolved around the ruling class behaving as if they are trying to become monarchs instead of participating in a democratic society, there is a huge demand that there be a totally servile minded population who's main focus in life is "making more money for me lord" and when that starts to change, it scares the p!ss out of the wealthy eurocentrics. they truly believe if society doesnt operate like a monarchy, then all of civilization will collapse. ffs, they cant even accept people not wanting to live through traditional eurocentric marriages lol.
You support lazyness, stupidity, not knowing anything. I understant now why these little nothing have become empty and useless. Oh sorry, I've just seen your profil. You don't even exist.
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Very well said and true!! 😊
As a millennial with tons of debt due to acquiring higher education which was drilled into us to be the recipe for success, I absolutely resonate with working smarter not harder. People are tired of working to barely survive… they aren’t lazy they are innovative and very well informed about quality of life.
Gen X-ers also had tons of college debt. It's not like you're unique.
Im 43..i am proud of these women. Im not gonna label anyone as lazy..but i will say they are smart for finally saying enough is enough.
I’m a GenXer who realized this in 2017 when I burnt out from back-to-back high stress jobs at Fortune 200 companies that squeezed every bit of energy you had. I saved a lot of money, quit my job in 2018, sold all my stuff and did nothing but travel and decompress for a year. I ended up coming back to work and made a switch to a non-profit so it’s a slower and kinder environment but I still have my plan to save save save and retire early so I can focus on something fun and fulfilling. I’m so proud of these young women and young workers fighting back! As large as a generation as they are, they WILL succeed…I’m sure of it! They are seriously “matching corporate America’s energy” (its jot personal, it’s business hahaha) and Corp America is losing their sh*t! I love it! ❤❤
She's a gender activist... She's worse than lazy 😂
For three years I worked four days a week. It really changed me as you do the most important work and had enough time to rest. I was far more motivated at work.
I applaud these intelligent members of Gen Z! I’m Gen X, did everything “right”, and feel like I was a fool. I was the model loyal employee. I didn’t realize the loyalty was one-sided.
And bravo for acknowledging reproductive labor!!
You were not alone. I am Gen x and I aways wondered why I worked so hard. Cost me my mental health.
This interview warm my heart. Gen X over here I can relate to you. God bless you and other fellow Gen X
I sign up at 8 in the morning in a office with no one else to talk. I leave at any time between 6.30 - 8.30. I'm dying inside out. I have huge respect for Gen Z.
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Hi All,
Thank so much for the love. A small update my office got shifted to the city thankfully. But the long office hours are still there like 8 - 6, 7... Even though less tired and I'm eating well.
Thank you so much. The people I don't know cared a lot❤️❤️
I'm GEN Z, work from 7am to 7pm.
I have to cos that's the only job I can get now. It's my only source of income even though it's not much.
You need to make friends outside of work otherwise you will die for sure I was in the same boat during the pandemic but I decided I needed to get out with other people and now I'm living but I still work hard for so little money and I still hate it
@@eagledice2008 who even has time for friends anyway? The friends don't have time too. Everyone doesn't have time lol
@@eagledice2008 I have no time. To reach at 8 am I have to leave at 6.20 am. And after signing off I will reach home by somewhere between 8pm - 10 pm. I bearly have time to eat. Forget about exercise and talking to people. In a week I bearly talk to people. I don't have a car or any other vehicle so I have to take public transport and that will take for ever. It will be very expensive and out my hands if I move to a nearer place. My life really sucks. If I leave on time, 5 pm. I can manage. But no way on earth that is happening.
I have to pay off my family debt so I need the money. And exploitation only happens to people who are in need.
All Roads Lead to BURN~OUT 😵💫 in every area of life. Early 30’s next day, you 40. 🤔Unhealthy, your body has rights over you 🤗
From a millennial... Good job ,Gen Z! I've been right there with you. Life is about more than work!
Do u have kids? A family?
@@jimmyjay689Exactly, family is something that gives you meaning other than work. You boomers really don't have meaning to your life besides work huh? No wonder your kids had to raise themselves.
@@smpiano6605 you think raising a family is free ? You cant raise a family without money, and where do you get money ? From work.
What a dumb opinion
@@jac23538 Read my comment as many times as necessary before it makes sense what I actually said. 7 people were able to decipher what I meant so you have enough brain power to do it as well if you actually take the time to do it. Ready...set...go...
I am ready for Genz to get more in the workforce and for boomers to be out. Millennials and Gen Zs unite. WE can do this together!
I got burnt out the second year into my dream job, and after I left I've developed this culture of slow work, where even tho I'm slower with my production, my quality and work life balance has sky rocketed. I'm not gen z, and I scoff at anyone bragging about "hard" work at this point, when they really mean that they just put in a lot of extra hours to speed through a poorly thought out project.
I'm like that with school. I may progress slower through concepts or units of material in a curriculum, but in the long-term, I find that I ultimately retain the information a lot better in my long-term memory. The alternative, which I abhor and try my best to avoid, is following the practice of cramming a bunch of information in my head to regurgitate it for an exam, but then only having it in my short-term memory and not having truly mastered the material, and then forgetting it like a couple weeks to a couples months later anyway.
Basically smart working. Good job!
Exactly! I favor efficiency and quality of work over longer hours and pretending to work hard. There is a huge difference between being busy and being productive. I focus on output in the given amount of time and energy. I'm not lazy. I'm not wasting time or energy.
So glad ppl are realizing work is everything. Remote work has made life better. No wasting time commuting and no more small talk in the office. Dream come true! Also, working barely meets basic needs so why should it be the most important thing in life.
I like the small talk at work.
Currently hybrid but would rather fully remote with 1-2 days required in office a month or something bc I agree about those benefits. The lack of commuting and not having to do the boring small talk.
As a millennial I 1000% agree with these girls. I am not loyal to my job and employer. I will quit/ leave if and when I want and I prefer to work for what I care about. I don't trust companies and employers.
No worries. when the axe falls, you are going to find out YOU WERE LIED TO. YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. Your participation trophies aren't worth two shits.
Do you give 2 weeks?
@@gustavoaguirre000 yes.
As a millennial I can confirm that we have the worst work culture than any of our previous generations have experienced. I'm with gen z on this one. Work life balance is a must.
not possible in this economy.. as a gen z myself I disagree and a 4 day work week isn't possible we need more nurses and doctors and engineers i'm a 22 year old nurse and when working with other gen zers they couldn't handled the bare minimum.. not saying all are like this but something really needs to change
@@cocolove9916agreed, every generation work less and hard.
@@cocolove9916 Couldn't agree more. As a millennial factory worker I dream of 4day weeks! Unfortunately i can barely afford working 40hrs. I'm very fortunate my factory makes us work 7day weeks 6+ months a year. It enables me to pay my bills with far less stress of being completely broke before my next check....BUT it's beyond exhausting & tbh dehumanizing. Work life balance? Wtf is that? Lol
Tis a double edged sword for sure but im thankful af for it. 4 day weeks & at home jobs are great if you're e lucky enough to have that opportunity. The western world needs far more trade/factory/health workers than corporate/office workers in order to run. Especially with what the current workforce calls work, bc it's anything but. The lack of hard workers now is the exact reason I'm made to work so much overtime, production in the automotive industry is at an all time low if at all. It's very depressing overall.
Not sure how 4hr weeks would work for those of us whose job description is to work however many hours corporate decrees 😅
You want to work less but then you spend your time lost inside a form of entertainment or consumption. Bravo
@@lachlan4534better than making extra profit for the shareholders
I am a baby boomer who has lived with the ridiculous corporate hustle mentality. I was recently age discriminated against and fired by a large global corporation where I was just a number on a spreadsheet. I believe these younger adults are 100% on track! Change is necessary! I support everything I heard in these interviews!!
I am burnout from changing jobs and wasting time on job applications
Jesus!😅 i think we're twins or something. Chin up! 🎉
Gen X here… and I think Gen Z is on to something. These companies don’t value us.
They value you if you have skills to value… Get a degree in a STEM related field, or go to a trade school, and continually learn… Do that and you can make six figures easily… I work with, or know, some people that did four years in the navy, were trained as electricians or in information systems security, and now make over $100k per year…
@@EarlHaywardI work in the tech field now, earn a nice salary and lead a team of very capable professionals. I can tell you - having the skills isn’t enough. I’ve had to layoff people that had degrees, professional certifications and were “good fits” for the organization. When your company forces layoffs- your skills won’t matter when their goal is a headcount reduction. Have a backup plan….trust me.
They never did. Everyone is replaceable.
Agree - GenX here- when companies consider you just as a number on the paper, I am not surprised that the new generation adapts to this and do not put all their eggs in one basket.
@@EarlHayward STEM folks are just as disposable as any one else. Regardless of how “good” you are, in the end you are just a cost center “resource” on a balance sheet you never get to see, maintained by someone you do not know. The larger the corp, the worse it is. They’ll come for you eventually.
Millenial here (1992).. had a taste of work life when I was 21 and it broke a piece of me.. after that I got into farming and entrepreneurship. I'm way more productive when I'm able to approach work on my own time. I get time to spend with family, I have more time to spend on self development like reading and learning other languages etc., and I have higher energy levels when I step back into my work space. ✊🏾
Same. Entrepreneurship. Exited the system 13 years ago.
It's not like they can afford anything even if they did hustle, hence the change.
And there is no benefit. We can’t afford anything: not housing, not rent to live on our own with skyrocketing prices, cost of living, exorbitant loans, etc.
This is pretty much the crux of the issue.
As a Gen Xer, I completely agree with the young adults. I have been working since 16 and have always felt like I was operating under duress to this very day. We should be doing everything we can to be productive members of society, but we should be better proponents of a fair work-life balance. I don't mind performing meaningful and purposeful work, but I have always hated busy-work. It's completely unnecessary and a waste of time. Do your work and get it done right and timely, but when there is downtime, relax and take it easy until the next real task comes along your way. Rinse and repeat. What is so wrong with that??
Gen X here. Worked at 15 all year long in HS. Our boomer parents made us get jobs.
@@mikethemechanic7395 , yep my pops made me get a part-time job too while I was in HS. Been working full-time ever since, but freedom is on the horizon 😁
preach
As a millennial, I feel schadenfreude towards my former and current bosses in knowing what they will have to ‘deal’ with. After they did things to me like taking money off my check (for having changed the computer during working hours) and being told the reason is I wasn’t producing. How am I supposed to produce with a defective computer? They wanted me to use my personal (unpaid) time for doing that. So, no I don’t feel bad for those mfs. They took advantage of my need for work, but times are changing and I’ll be there, rejoicing with my popcorn in hand.
That sounds illegal, speak to your dept of labor
That's a Wage & Hour violation. Report your employer who improperly deducted money from your check without your signed authorization.
😂😂😂
I sincerely hope Gen z and all future generations are able to beat the system and escape the mindless rat race my generation (millennials) and past generations were indoctrinated into believing in the key for success and only way to live an adult life. Good going gen z!
millennials didnt get indoctrinated. we got murdered with labor induced starvation. just like the other 99% of the human species who is not born into a well off eurocentric family.
As a millennial, we tried to do what are Gen Z are doing currently. We were attacked badly by the Boomers, got called lazy and other stuff. Also we couldn't succeed since back then we were the minority.
Now since there is less boomers and more Gen Zs in the workplace, I hope this will finally be achieved.
Well said!!
Got out and started my own business 13 years ago. Not staying in corporate america
The problem with these generalisation is that they don’t fit. I’m technically a millennial and the “rat race” wasn’t part of our mindset. I was born in the mid-90s. Many things claimed to be “millennial” isn’t really millennial. The things claimed to be “generation z” was started by millennials.
I'm proud of the young people. Let's hope this becomes a force that can change society. I can see the need of having more democracy at work aligning with this philosophy.
Goes to show it's not that us younger workers (Millennial and younger) are "lazy", but we're burned out doing more cognitive lift than previous generations. Older generations had full on careers doing mindless, simple, busy work that paid a living wage where one could raise a family on a single income. Level of responsibility and complexity even in entry-level roles have quadrupled since the '90s while wages have fallen abysmally behind. If anything, we're being cheated. It'd behoove corporations to give people a 6-8 week sabbatical every 2 years to keep employees engaged and motivated to stay.
tell europe you appreciate them taking the value of the rest of the worlds work and using it to build copious architecture to look down at us all from.
Older generations built everything you enjoy today, literally… So, if you think your generation is doing more cognitive work, just list a few companies, products, technologies, or ideas that your generations is responsible for the creation and development of…
Every year.
"More cognitive lift". 😂😂😂
That is so true. And to the rest on this thread, the point is that they could afford to live on the minimum wage on ANY job! Now, only a few jobs pay for the quality of life that is basic.
Gen Z isn’t lazy, they just don’t want to be the next generation that has to accept that this is the way things are especially when it’s become significantly worse for them. As a millennial we saw these systems fail our parents and our peers. Hard work might have been rewarded in our grandparent’s day and we were told we live in a meritocracy but we’ve learned it’s all smoke and mirrors and it’s made us jaded. Gen Z has the balls to address it and call for a change rather than bend over backwards and continue to make it worse for the future. When someone had to grind 60-80 hours a week to make ends meet that shouldn’t be some badge of honor, it should be an eye opener so that the average person doesn’t have to do the same.
I’m also an millennial but a much older millennial coming of age in the year 2001
Working people need to organise. That is always what it comes back to. Unionising is how we get better conditions, work hours, pay, etc. There is less you can do on your own to improve your work life, much more can be done together.
unions still have ruling classes. you need to stop eurocentric hegemony. otherwise the ruling class will perpetually behave like monarchists who are trying their hardest to get their throne.
Truth!!! Unionizing is key to change. Wondering though, how do Gen Z'ers think they'll afford a house and retirement by working fewer hours? I haven't been able to figure this one out yet.
Its why europe has such a good work life balance. Heavy on the union.
@@krisholmes8569We won’t get retirement, only the current boomers get that. For housing, either inherit a house from parents or buy a storage unit/RV to live in. We are fcked and headed back to uncivilized times. Maybe your generation will be included.
@unc1221 yes, retirement seems like a pipe dream for sure, even for my generation. Hustling for what you want has been "the American Dream" for many decades now. The key, in my opinion, is to work hard, be smart with your money, and live a simple life. Save & invest as you can... it has never been "easy"... there are definitely ways we can improve, but we'll see what the future holds.
If you've been through a layoff with these companies, you won't have any issue with their mindsets, Knowlanne spoke explicitly on that, and I LOVE IT!! Prioritize yourself, we are all just head counts to these companies..
Agreed
Because they understand that hustle doesn't actually get you anywhere anymore, at least in the workplace.
Intelligent application of effort in the right places at the right times is the way to promotions.
It doesn't get anywhere cause now you have the option to make money in many ways without a degree and a company behind you or a contracted career. These options weren't bountiful back in the day let's stop acting like they're magical unicorns with all the answers.
@@60wwedivaso it’s ok for companies to take advantage of that? You know they only pay to keep you from leaving. Broke,
The system is exploiting them and they just don’t want to be exploited anymore. We were saying this in the 90’s and nobody listened. Hats off to ‘em!!
Exactly. To act like this is new and we weren’t fighting is mind boggling lol
@@moniquemichelle7295theyre idea of reinvention is simply just recycling old logic fr m past generations lol 😂
I've been saying this for years that my job is a part of my day but its not how I define myself my coworker was confused and mentioned that I have so much potential so why do I not have any ambition 🤦 unfortunately she didn't understand not being a corporate slave or part of the hustle culture was my ambition
So true. Plus, that's a very narrow idea of what ambition is. I am super ambitious about my goals, but my goal is not to work corporate or climb imaginary ladders. If anything, your coworker is the true unambitious one because they are following a script someone else wrote for them rather than living up to their own potential.
Nobody wants to go to work for a slave wage and non-living wage for 40-80 hours a week with no personal life anymore. Who wants to go above and beyond at work and not being compensated or promoted to higher pay for their hard work and still can’t afford a basic living. Who is going to work themselves to death or to an early grave and not even making a basic living wage to survive day to day.
Good luck Gen Z...as a Gen X I tried these ideas out when I was younger.
The result for me was losing job after job and being socially isolated during the Pandemic. That lack of prolonged employment led to having very few friends.
I sincerely hope you fine folks will find answers that don't end in isolation and poverty which has been my reality for decades
Left my job in tech with hustle & extreme ownership culture work environment last month. Best life choice ever
_Ownership culture._ This awfully sounds like Scrum BS culture. Obsessed with constantly delivering illogical every 2-weeks, no matter what, you gotta deliver "something". The client isn't even interested anymore and won't update until the current fiscal quarter ends anyway
I'm an exhausted Boomer and I couldn't agree more with these young ladies and men. Well done!
I would LOVEEEE a 4 day work week. The world would be a better place!!
Wouldn't it be gorgeous 😍💭🥲 More time to relax, do housework, see friends, hang out with pets and family. The demand for third spaces would be huge and we would get that back. I hope it becomes the norm in the next few years. If everyone advocates for it in their yearly reviews I think it will slowly become a thing
Then the next generation will demand a 3 day working week 😂 I'm here for it but i can also see where this will lead😂
To put it simply: “Why working 2 jobs just to pay the bills? “
This genZ has woken up to what I've known all my life. Only do it if you want to.
only barely starting to wake up if labor value is the only thing you are questioning lol. wait until you learn the truth about inflations cause lol. or how the ruling class doesnt pay taxes but instead gets paid trillions of dollars each year from the government instead.
As long as you can pay your bills.
Gen X here (49) With Gen Alpha kids(10). I am glad Gen Z have changed the workplace. When I first started in my field in 2000. No one took time off for doctor appointments. If you did. It had to be a vacation day. You would get harassed for taking breaks. We would get yelled at for any family issues that made us leave work. The last few years. Any appointment I have to do. I can leave anytime. I can make up my time. I don’t work the weekends. I get to spend lots of time with my kids. When I work overtime. I show up 4am-12. And have the rest of the weekend. I get to take 3 weeks off and not get harassed. Gen Z have changed the workplace. I love it. I used to give 120 percent to my jobs for years. Worked all holidays and weekends. Not anymore. I am blue collar. I was recruited to my current job. My kids college is paid for and I received a hiring bonus. My employer knows. I can get a job in one day.
Still, someone needs to be lawyers, engineers, judges, and doctors.
I respect all those people.
none of this is saying that you can't be those things, or dedicated. It's about calling out the toxic culture of working yourself to death, at the expense of the rest of your entire life/connections to others.
Yes. Something to consider in those fields is that you can move up and get "promoted" based on performance. In corporate America in retail, customer service a person can complete a shift or project and be fired the moment it is over. Fired without reason without a servance package. Companies want more time more energy but do not want to pay.
I'm against illegal immigration, but a teacher I work with mentioned that's one reason it's being allowed. The USA won't have future doctors, engineers, IT Specialists, etc if we had to rely on Gen Z & Alphas. Do I like this fact? No. But what can we do when most American students play around in class while the immigrant students who barely speak English quickly complete assignments and not misbehaving?
AI can replace them all.
@QQ251647742 can AI replace doctors, lawyers, construction workers, police and firemen/women??? While I totally agree with work-life balance, let's be real about the need for money to buy the things...
I think back to when I was 17 at my first job at Kmart and mangers talked down to me, called me stupid to my face, I thought it was just something I had to put up with. Good for Gen Z for enforcing boundaries and demanding respect at such a young age. Everyone is entitled to a respectful workplace.
The good career jobs exits, but if your not willing to play their games then you will be fired. 40 hours plus a week used to be good but with higher costs of living it no longer makes sense to work so hard. Mental health and quality of work life balance Is so important now.
Every generation brings their own ideas. I love Gen Zs
I am a millennial in the corporate world and it is a boldfaced lie that they value their employees and consider us a family. These statements are just a formality. We are simply statistics on a graph to them and not human beings. I have realized that what my parents taught me is success, is actually back breaking blood, sweat and tears for a company that does not care about my well-being. Peace of mind is priceless and seems to be a luxury when working in the corporate world and you realize your health is not worth sacrificing for these managers.
I’m a millennial, been called lazy my entire career even when I worked 12 hr days and didn’t take my lunch. I worked in a very understaffed office. Boss was a boomer, they believe we should live and breathe our jobs and treat it like it’s our own business. Gets upset when we leave on time. All while paying us pennies. They are very difficult to work for, everything was our fault and any concerns and situations out of our control was written off as an excuse for not able to meet our sales numbers. Nothing was ever good enough. I saw how hard the Gen X fought and us millennials didn’t do much better. Glad I left for a place with a younger demographic. I’ve worked with Gen Z they are wonderful colleagues. Very smart and efficient, they also know their boundaries. I support them! Hopefully things finally turn around.
From my experience I’ve watched so many people put in there blood sweat and tears into a company that essentially could careless about them. They view them as replaceable no matter how hard they worked for decades. Then they look back and realize how much time they missed on the things that really matter such as family. Time with my family WILL ALWAYS BE MY PRIORITY. Why is it a crime to want good work life balance. These jobs aren’t paying well anyway. It’s like being in an abusive relationship.
@@eplugplay8409 absolutely, you’re not obligated to stay anywhere. I agree. But older generations misinterpret this as not being dedicated which is stupid. Just like that company is going to do what it needs to do to benefit itself people should be able to do the same
I do not think I am in Gen Z, but I am with them on the fact I am not grinding to die in the end. I am vacationing and then leaving this earth. I will be putting in for PTO even if I don;t have any. My family comes first and making memories. Once you die, your job will send flowers if they liked you and then replace your position.
I applaud them
And agree with the stance. Every part of our lives have been revolutionized EXCEPT the way we work. It’s about time.
I’m gen z, joined the military 3mos post high school, didn’t squander my money or make big purchases, used my education benefits sparingly in between working and here I am almost a decade later in the service and I STILL have to work 2 add’t civilian jobs just to make ends meet-and most of us do who are active duty contrary to popular belief! I am now a Reservist and my military experience/education means NOTHING in this job market yet all of Gen X told me my “sacrifice” would be respected & appreciated yet that couldn’t be further from the truth when trying to land a job. These companies treat you like a revolving # and replace you when you call out issues-yet demand your entire essence. I will gladly “quiet quit, lazy girl job” and whatever else to try and gain some type of normal life balance. The “old ways” don’t work anymore and it’s high time society accepts it.
Conversely, I work with some Gen Z individuals that spent 4 years in the military, do not have a college degree, and now make six figures (not to mention great benefits, stock options, and work life balance)… So, maybe you picked a MOS that didn’t allow for you to develop valuable skills in the open market…
My apologies you happen to be what many in the older generations call a sucker, you sacrificed so they didnt have to and now you have even less, it doesnt help that now people from across the political spectrum discriminate against military and veterans. Either seeing them as losers who failed to die for their country or problematic for engaging in the military to begin with.
@@EarlHayward my AFSC is HIGHLY sought after. Logistics. I can do procurement, planning, material management, even a certain level of Intel with an ACTIVE SECRET clearance. The problem is I always get told my military experience doesn’t “translate smoothly into the civilian side” aka we can’t sucker you by paying you at an entry level eventhough I’m more than capable of learning and building my way up. They would rather a fresh college grad and pay them the bare minimum than an experienced Loggie.
Try civil service work. I did after the Navy. Full pension, health/dental. Investment fund. Job security. Fireman. Police. EMT. Sheriff. Correction Officer. Tons of jobs hiring all the time. Everyone goes private but that's for suckers. Even in Florida you can be a cop at like... 50+. Veterans also get preference in civil hirings, extra points on exams that non-vets don't get, AND you can buy back your service time. VA house loan. C'mon! What actually have you been doing since you got out? Why don't you know this stuff?
@@EarlHayward That. I mean at the least, he can get a VA loan. So civil service, save up, job security. It's only a 5 year grind as a civil servant to become established. He/she must have criminal history which bars them from it, but they can still be fireman, emt, etc even with a record.
I agree with Gen z on this one. I'm Gen X and I'm tired of working making money for other people. Work life balance is good.America just runs on work slave labor tbh. I hate it!
Looking forward to see this world change.. we need a complete transformation of governments and work force.
And education! Education needs to seriously get with the times. Genz will probably be the ones to remake them when they grow up some more.
@@ralucaifrim4916 i wish this more than anything, it can't be like this anymore
“Career” and “work” include so much more than the paid jobs that we have. Career includes studies, volunteering, family roles and responsibilities, caregiving, all of the “work” roles that we take on. Being “anti-career” and “anti-work” is misusing the terms. We all have careers. We all work, whether this includes paid work or not.
My husband is 53, works for Visy recycling and works 4 days on 4 days off. We love it as I'm a stay at home homeschooling mother and we get to see more of him.
I’m a millennial and I can tell u I work smart not hard and I offer this to my team, have all the flexibility you want and get interesting projects as long as u deliver that’s all that matters.
As a GenX I appreciate anyone who is efficient and don’t have time for mindless work and business! GenZ are literally showing us what prioritizing means, and I’m here for it!
Thank you so much for this eye-opener! I get it 100% I’m 71 years old and way past With these kids are coming up with but I support them
Honestly I Don’t Blame Them For Choosing to Change How it’s Done. Shame on These Big Corporations Getting Rich 🤑 Off Of the Backs of Poor People & Doing Absolutely Nothing for Us. Imagine a World Where “Everyone” Has Financial Freedom 😁 Then the Economy Can Actually Thrive. Work For Yourself & Pay Yourself First 🤑🤑🤑
Exactly that. Work has never been the most important thing in my life. Although I have worked since I graduated. You are the ones who should start reforming this whole concept of work, which, as you have said, doesn't work anymore. More and more work should never be the answer. Well done!
5 years ago I (millennial) had a "sit down" with my bosses boss ( a boomer). He asked me how i was able to come up with so many tools that increased our efficiency. I told him "Cause I'm lazy". After wipping the shocked look off his face, he leaned in and said, "I bulit my career on lazy"
Great interview. Here in the US, any major news agency would have their anchors constantly talking over your guests demeaning them the whole time.
As a millennial, I started working in 2014 after being granted my work permit. I had to work long hours because I was saving up for nursing school. I wanted to pay my tuition without resorting to loans. I finished my associates in 2018 and my Baccalaureate in 2022 DEBT-FREE. When I started working as a nurse, I purposely chose not to work in a rush work environment. Regardless of age, healthcare is a stressful field with HIGH RISK for burnout. I am still young. I want to work without getting burned out in the process because I enjoy what I do.
Very smart...I went into the high stress environments to get as much experience as possible under my belt and all it did is give me a bad case of burnout...I thoroughly hate working in hospitals now. Overtime is another common rookie mistake, after almost 10 years doing a ton of overtime, nighshifts, and hustling "to get all that moolah" 😂, now I can barely stomach doing the standard 36 hours, I'll usually drop down to 24 hours a week even if it means living like a broke college student...don't care anymore 😂😂. Definitely take care of your health first, healthcare will let you work yourself to an early grave if you let it... unfortunately I've already seen it happen many times.
What trailblazers, thank you for saying the things that need to be heard!!!
Almost no jobs actually matter and people are just more aware of and capable of seeing that than they’ve ever been.
Very true
I work a four day work week in security. I make 126k a year. My only debt is a $1290 house payment. Life is good!
As a millennial I agree with Gen z ! I used to be consume with hustle culture prior pandemic , I’ve been working since I was 16 . After being laid off during the pandemic I worked. Remote and still do I enjoy the work life balance boomers are just hard to work with and their mentality of just work work work breathing down my neck let’s not get into the toxic work culture. My job ends when I clock out and focus my life not someone else’s dream (employer). For whoever is reading this ! YOUR JOB TITLE , POSITION, WAGE DOESNT MATTER. In the end your employer does not care about you 😂
My(26F) life is my two boys and my husband. I’ve been raising them at home for the past four years and eventually plan to return to work. No college because I don’t think it’s for me after two failed attempts of going. I’ll do it my way, I saw my mom give herself to a company and they screwed her over.
I understand that they want a better balance between life and work but the problem is that they also want the big salary without working hard. When I listen my son's friends they all think that it is easy to earn 200K and way more without working hard. So when they start their life by themselves they are evidently deceived. We, parents, spoiled that generation which is used to immediate pleasure so their expectations of life are unrealistics. So they will be sad in life because it will be much harder than expected. The only one who will be happy will be those who will accept to lower down their expectations.
But it is. Just not traditionally.....content creation does bring that in. Not an office job.
You’re correct. Content creation can bring in that kind of money but it’s unsustainable.
Eventually the future generations will end up going back to traditional work. Hard work is what built up and paved the way for lazy girl work . Technology allows for flexibility and more time. You cannot have leisure without someone working hard for it.
They think that they are escaping something and perhaps they are but that is because they are foolish. Foolish about where things come from and how the world works.
lol ok boomer.
Traditional work will soon be a thing of the past. Tech and AI will soon get rid or reduce “traditional” work.
Employers want higher productivity and tech will help them do that with less humans to pay wages, healthcare or give time off.
With energy degrowt in coming years, technologies consuming electricity will become useless. So develop manual competencies for a world that will probably look like in 1800. @@Orpheus_x
I worked with people with that type of mindsets. It's very narrow minded because they see what worked for them (in the past) should have work for you in the present. Never considering the changes that took place. There are multifactorial variables that are difference like inflation, the cost of living and automation. - Different times and circumstance.
Gen Z, you have Millennials' support! We can reinvent the workplace together.
I'm a gen x'er. I own a company. I am one of the people in my generation that thinks we need to shorten the work day (and that productivity and creativity will improve when we do) and that what matters is what you're working for, not the work itself (although the work itself matters, it's just that what we will remember in life is what we did with people we love far more than what we accomplished in our work). If you work in any of my companies, I only care that customers are happy and the tasks get resolved and otherwise, I'd rather you be with your loved ones and working on the things that motivate you about life. We were, after all, promised that automation was going to reduce the work week but what happened was we just became more and more productive with less and less reward per unit of productivity since the industrial revolution and in a hyper sense since the computer revolution.
they use to say EXACLTY the same thing about milenials, and we had the same mentality only to realize by age 30 you need to work hard to make a living.
In my twenties as a Gen X, we were the slackers, we focused more on having leisure time, now in my later forties, I work too much, have too much responsibility as a small business owner, and won't be getting out of graduate college debt anytime soon.
As a millennial just want to say I dig this perspective and have felt this way and glad Gen Z started this movement.
To be fair, if it's harder for me to have the life like my parents got to have.
Why would I worker harder at my job when I'm definitely not expected a raise soon to afford a decent life.
No longer do we have to worry about HR rejecting our resumes.
They're not even involved anymore, it's AI dictating if I get the job or not which is crazy because they would reject my resume before a human gets to see anything.
As soon as I seen that my manager was dictating everything but he's completely unqualified for his position.
It definitely makes you reevaluate how you choose your path in life today
I am so proud of this generation for taking a stand. It is long overdue that there should be a better worklife balance. If everyone has a four day work week, you can improve productivity and even hire more people because everyone is able to work.
As a GenXer this mindset is really difficult for me to swallow, BUT, as an AI entrepreneur I see that this is simply just a preface and easing into the upcoming “post labour economy” where individuals will have more personal time as AI takes over many aspects of labour and the job market.
Hopefully this doesn’t backfire on GenZ later when they actually have to face the realities of life.
As most people over 40 or 50 can attest, when you look back on the mindset you had at 20 and 30, it’s definitely different, potentially embarrassing, and possibly regretful.
At least you recognize the tides turning to a post labour economy. If we are to advance as a species we should be pursuing intellectual ambitions especially space exploration as that is the natural end goal of our species. Humans should be creating art and spending time with their friends and family and answering the questions of the universe, but instead as of now at least we have the computers creating art whilst humans labour in mind numbing work. Also, eventually you will all die and our generation will be the ones in positions of power and we can change society in our vision to fix it as your generation changed it in yours to destroy it.
What if AI assisted technologies decide that human labor is no longer needed and goes further than that to eliminate all us humans in the future ? That’s a scary thought....and before it comes to that “fork” , AI technologies must be restrained and confined to only the necessary work areas so as not to pose a threat to human existence.
I’m a Gen Xer and have no idea what you’re talking about. lol I’m not embarrassed for getting a degree and great job in my 20s. I worked from home for 18 years. Refused to do commutes. Got my employer to pay for law school. Nothing they are saying is new. I have been to 40 countries and 7 continents. Some of this is personality driven.
AI implementation is going to take decades. And housing is not going to get cheaper neither is cost of living. Become entrepreneurs and learn how to invest and get passive income. Otherwise they be underfunded for retirement bc the math will continue to tick. Shocking none of that was discussed.
Do you regret your 20s? Maybe you were one of those hedonistic hipsters participating in drug and orgies experiments that lead to addiction and shameful past so you need to be "moralizing" now. But not me, my 20s were great and beautiful era
@@errrzarrrRight, so your 20's taught you to be condescending to people who are trying to be understanding of things they cannot identify with. You turned out to be quite a peach my friend.
As a millennial I learned early on that hard work didn't produce results that were worth the extra work. I've have also chosen not too have children, pets or anything that would cause me extra financial burdens in order to simplify my life. My life is not perfect but I have more time freedom then most people I meet who are always talking about work. As a result of my decisions I have been able to take long overseas trips, move to different cities and states and not worry about having to work 40 hours a week to "survive."
I think a big part of it is trust. It used to be that if you really sacrificed for your employer they would recognize and repay that relatively consistently, at least that's the rumor.
Nowadays employers say they will recognize and repay(not reward, repay) but you never quite get there. This leads to no trust between the employee and employer which makes the employee unwilling to do more for the employer.
If you think about it, this shouldn't be at all surprising if you've been in corporate America long enough.
The days of overworking for unfair pay are being challeneged by calling out employers and holding them to a higher standard. That's why you see so many people often switching jobs and wanting salaries to be displayed on job postings. It wouldn't be an issue if we knew we weren't getting screwed like the last generation. We just have the balls to call them out on it
Dream jobs do exist. I got extremely lucky and found mine. Been doing it for the last 14 yrs. But I got lucky! It did not come from hard work or college.
What job? 😅
Same!
I’m a GenXer who realized this in 2017 when I burnt out from back-to-back high stress jobs at Fortune 200 companies that squeezed every bit of energy you had. I saved a lot of money, quit my job in 2018, sold all my stuff and did nothing but travel and decompress for a year to focus on my health & think through what I wanted my next 15 working years to look like. I ended up coming back to work and made a switch to a non-profit so it’s a slower and kinder environment but I still have my plan to save save save and retire early so I can focus on something fun and fulfilling. I’m so proud of these young women and young workers fighting back! As large as a generation and as vocal as they are, I know they WILL succeed…I’m sure of it! They are seriously “matching corporate America’s energy” (its jot personal, it’s business hahaha) and Corp America is losing their sh*t! I love it! ❤❤
I think it's about expectations and it depends on the career you get into. Do we want our nurses and doctors for example to quiet quit on us when we're in the hospital lol?? When I was a teacher I worked with some Gen Z teachers who just gave up at times because it was "too much" and it blew my mind, and on the flipside I've worked with some super hard working Gen Z folks. I just ever cant ever remember thinking at 23, ugh, this is too hard I'm just going to give up. The work life balance stuff is really important, but some of that is incumbent on what career you select.
Brilliance at it's best! So proud. We have to fight back!!!🎉
I respect Gen Z sooooo much!!! They really get it!
Get it? In what exactly?
I support this.. I have been working 10 to 12 hours per day 60 hours a week.. and don't even get the self respect forget about promotion and salary raise
The presenter is reevaluating her job 😅
I'm glad that Aljazeera is giving an opportunity for PWS, of which I am one, on their platform. Thank you Aljazeera!
I mean they do have a point as far as not being treated just like a number and being able to stand up to companies and their bosses and say hey if you want us to work for you and be productive we need Fair pay fair treatment a work-life balance because at the end of the day companies can fire you for cause and yet they want a 2 weeks before you leave but they don't give you two weeks notice before they let you go. And a lot of people are waking up to this and saying no more. You are a boss at work but you're not going to control my life and there are many other opportunities out there and a lot of self-made people things to the Internet etcetera. So a lot of companies are unnoticed either take care of your employees or you won't have a company
What a bunch of intelligent women, I'm looking forward to working for them in the future.
Just read about a social media content creator who moved to Ireland from the US.
She absolutely loved it. Entered the job market over there. After a year she realized she wasn't making the same amount of income as she was back in the States. So she moved back and settled in Boston.
After another year of being bavk in the States, she realized she made a big mistake.
Yeah she was making better pay, but the burden and demands of worklife here in the States was a much lower overall quality of life for her.
Over there in Europe it was the law for employers to provide 20 weeks per year of FULLY PAID vacation time.
Sure the money was lower pay
but so was the cost of living!
As a result it was so much easier for her to save up money much faster.
I suspect she might say "screw the US" and move back to Ireland as a permanent resident.
That’s why they call it the United _Corporation_ of Amer… I mean the United States of America 😐
@GMacII Pretty much. Its the corporations running it.
European countries have the advantages of much smaller populations who pay much MUCH higher taxes, and it's not always all sunshine and rainbows over there either.
@CJCody2006 That's interesting. I guess the grass isn't always greener on the otherside.
But I guess for her- it is.
@@keithbell9348 It varies widely. Ireland currently has a population of 5.3M and has the 3rd highest GDP per capita in the world, and theirs is nearly 50% higher than ours. Despite this, tens of thousands of Irish still leave Ireland in search of a better life abroad.
Gen Z is smart. They’ve learned that corporate America and other employers (government and non-profit) do not reward employee loyalty or productivity (an antiquated idea from the 50s). They want to squeeze as much as they can out of their workers for the lowest pay they can get away with while cutting benefits. I worked hard, got an education, have a good paying job and home ownership isn’t even a possibility with the high cost of living, and sky high rent. Born on the border Gen X and older millennials, I’m personally glad this generation is giving corporate America the middle finger and saying no to toxic work culture.
Homelessness has skyrocketed because of this narrative
Nah, that problem is caused by rampant alcoholism and drug addiction, and is enabled by millennial and Gen Z 'activists' who think that if we 'build more housing' that the legions of partying druggies will suddenly get off the street, get jobs, (oh wait, we don't want jobs any more) and live a normal life. But none of that is happening because it's a failed narrative.
I applaud Gen Z! I'm older and self-employed now. When I look back at my W-2 career, each of my positions was difficult because of enslaved mindset of my leadership. Working 60-70 hours per week was never enough. The company bottom line trumps employee personal life. Abuse from leadership within organizations is common. Egoes, career sabotage and slavery in the workplace are the 3 biggest issues in all industries. No one goes to work to stroke the egoes of leadership. Corporate leadership believes in making their workforce into sharks and piranhas. They throw chum in the water with promises of promotion as long as they are willing cannibalize their own. There are expectations to commit yourself to your career and company without any guarantees for employment. Companies are not committed to employees nearly as much as they ask of the employees.
Nothing about this is attractive.
Who wants to feel enslaved and disposable? Who wants to live in fear of losing their career, income and work family based on the whims of mentally unstable and immature leadership or the shifting goals of an organization?
They will inherit the world in a few decades, so do the mean “career culture” like doctors, farmers, infrastructure planners, teachers, architects, tech people, mothers, plumbers, nurses,you know people who pay taxes and keep the country functioning until they get old and helpless? I not saying they are completely wrong but they grew up in a time as kids when every benefit they had was previous generations “hustle “ culture. Do they expect this to continue when they take the foot off the accelerator? They better think the costs as well the benefits for they have to live with it.
Everything Kwolanne said is spot on.
Ive been in the workforce for over 27 years. I worked hard the first 5 years. I did not take vacations. literally saved the company a lot of money doing the work of 3 people. I asked for a raise and was denied. Since then I did what today is called quiet quitting. Fck corporations
I’m really sorry you went trough all that drama 🎭
I dont regret where i am now. I am gen y (1983) and have simple mindset, when i work (working in a corp world, 8 hrs per day, 5 days a week), i get paid to put food on the table, pay bills and spend for leisures. I only spend for what i can afford. I am an individual contributor for 13 years in 1 company and i have no ambition to get promoted, so far, the company i work for likes my work ethics, less stress and i choose to be like this. Not impacted in lay-off, so far. I am simply grateful.
It was possible to save for a house before now all your salary goes into basic expenses and the world is making everything a subscription instead of allowing ownership. So it's just survival grind without long term goals.
You know the saying that "New ideas do not just win over old ideas. Old people with old ideas die out and the new idea survives." This is that moment. The moment the old idea starts to fade away.