@@august6281over the various podcast episodes i watched he acknowledges what he did wrong but he also made some great points. A lot of those workouts don't measure or even show what he could do on the court. His stories are hilarious tho
It worked out for him though. By being a second round pick he was able to sign a massive deal as a free agent years before he would've as a lottery pick
Nick Van Exel. He was a steel for the Lakers when he was drafted 37th in the 2nd Rd in 1993. Nick was a NBA All-Star in 1998, spent 5 yrs with the Lakers, 4 with Denver Nuggets, and last 4 as a journeyman
Yeah but they're not going to give him the complete recognition because he played mainly for Detroit and we all know that when it comes to giving Detroit ANY type of credit for ESPN, it's like pulling teeth!😬.. these fools just not start to give the Lions recognition and even STILL some aren't convinced lol.. but they know whatever is working for Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes must be doing pretty good because they see a progression since their arrival
Another honorable 2nd round mention that should be included also from the 1970 draft is Calvin Murphy. Before the younger Isaiah Thomas he at 5-9 was the best scorer among players 6-0 and under. He walked so IT, AI and others could run.
Jokic has reached the highest peak of any player in the 2000s, if he can keep it going for a few more years then he firmly puts himself in the goat convo.
he needs another chip for top 10 and 1 more after that to contest jordan and lebron imo... if he manages to retire a nugget with 3 rings he's the GOAT imo
It goes to show that any player that entered the NBA draft has the chance to be great... It boils down to their commitment, passion and resilience to push through regardless of any setbacks that they have have at the beginning of their career.
The disrespect on The Joker is real considering this channel forgot to mention that he's also a world champion, Finals MVP, and led all in 3 major stats in this year's playoffs. 🃏💯
Remember in “Money Ball” when the old head recruiters were all SO hung up on jaw lines and good personalities that they couldn’t actually evaluate players effectively? That’s exactly how the NBA still works a lot of the time.
Isaiah Thomas is a guy you put on your team if you have the chance. it was ridiculous how some teams treated him because of height. he was an absolute alpha
Joker can pass the ball like he has eyes in the back of his head, he can block, he can push his was way through a wall of Defenders and if his team can't score. He just does it himself and score even 3 pointers. No wonder he is a MVP in the finals.
7:35 On the outside Michael is laughing. But on the inside, he took it personally. Something tells me this Kerr fellow might make a good coach someday.
@@alexmammoth2916 think he meant, whoever was their best player since Larry Bird, progression wise. So when IT was there Pierce wasn’t. So IT was the Celtics best player at the time.
@@calamorta I disagree about the unnatural movement, you cam say Stocktom was in his landing area But I do agree om the second thing lol back then you went to play and that's it
It's bullshit how they dont technically recognise that, he didn't win those stats because of games played, Joel played less but scored close to Trae so it works out as a higher PPG and he got the official scoring title.
It’s not a crazy concept. The average NBA player is 6’7. So if you’re a big man who plays the 4/5 the whole game you actually are undersized. Draymond had perfect timing though. As basketball started becoming position-less Draymond started making a name for himself in the NBA
Funny thing in NBA live 07 back when i was a kid i use to make a lot of created players that i made up, coincidence is I made a Marc Gasol without even knowing Pau had a brother and his name was mark still makes me feel wierd when i remember that lol
Manu wasn’t Spanish. He was Argentinian. Apart from that you got everything else about him right. Manu was also the only player who got his jersey retired.
Facts hell take a look at the 2013 NBA Draft Giannis for example (I know he got selected in the 1st round but I just want to prove that alot more all stars and Hall Of Famers are taken outside the the top 10 rather than being taken in the top 10)
Ginobili was great for national team of Argentina even before he was drafted , beating the powerhouse countries, but NBA teams where still skeptical of him that he ended up being picked 3rd from the last😂..
I noticed that in basketball talent is not subtile but obvious. In hockey, soccer or other sports, the best at 14 or 15 are rarely the best at the highest level.
Toni Kukoc came pretty close to averaging 20 points per game in 2001 while playing for an awful Hawks team. This is supposed to be a list of superstars though and neither Toni Kukoc or Steve Kerr were even All-Stars so I'm not sure how they qualify here.
“Multiple MVPs” is such an understatement for Joker, he’s also NBA champ, Finals MVP, and breaker of records that stood for decades.
gv
Don't forget he also runs professional horse racing stables.
@@Dr.Megladon Honestly did not know that
@@Dr.Megladon Also don't forget he treats basketball as a 9-5 day job
New video on Zion’s scandal on my channel! 😳
Damn Gilbert Arenas seemed to be on a mission to jinx and tank his own draft stock much as possible like a speedrun lol
the crazy thing is even now at 40+yrs old, he still dont understand why. He was even mad at RJ now.
@@august6281 who’s rj
@@DopeBoyDreamz Richard Jefferson. They are close friends even before NBA so he understood and witness some of Gil's shenanigans.
@@august6281over the various podcast episodes i watched he acknowledges what he did wrong but he also made some great points. A lot of those workouts don't measure or even show what he could do on the court. His stories are hilarious tho
It worked out for him though. By being a second round pick he was able to sign a massive deal as a free agent years before he would've as a lottery pick
2:23 "Gil had to sleep in a arena" 😂 he knew what he was doing 🤣
😂
Nick Van Exel. He was a steel for the Lakers when he was drafted 37th in the 2nd Rd in 1993. Nick was a NBA All-Star in 1998, spent 5 yrs with the Lakers, 4 with Denver Nuggets, and last 4 as a journeyman
The NBA is a part time job for jokic
What do you mean?
Bro is gonna own an apple farm
Bros gonna sleep his way to an all star game
@@johnnyyeet9258dominate the league wit one chip ? Alr buddy
@@yahirzavala-nm9urby your logic Robert horry is the goat
Ben Wallace went undrafted.
NBA Champ , 4 times DPOY.
And Hall of Fame.
The only undrafted NBA player to make the Hall (not counting college-ONLY greats).
Yeah but they're not going to give him the complete recognition because he played mainly for Detroit and we all know that when it comes to giving Detroit ANY type of credit for ESPN, it's like pulling teeth!😬.. these fools just not start to give the Lions recognition and even STILL some aren't convinced lol.. but they know whatever is working for Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes must be doing pretty good because they see a progression since their arrival
@@thewizardofoz511Lol okay detroit resident
@@troliskimosko DAMN STRAIGHT!😂
the title said 2nd round draft picks lol
he really got drafted during an taco bell commercial. 😂
ESPN had been hated the jokers since the first day
they care more about showing ads than they do showing a future hall of famer getting drafted
And of course making the bags joker doesn't give f...
@@jenniferjimenez3235not a single person thought joker was gonna be a hall of famee he was a 41st pick for a reason
Another honorable 2nd round mention that should be included also from the 1970 draft is Calvin Murphy. Before the younger Isaiah Thomas he at 5-9 was the best scorer among players 6-0 and under. He walked so IT, AI and others could run.
The man is also my frat brother!
God bless! Jesus saves ✝️🤍
Funny how Jokic hasn't been in the Best Basketball Player in the World conversation when in fact he should've won 3 straight league MVPs
Good afternoon..excellent player..2 straight mvp's..peace
i’m saying, they just couldn’t accept the fact of him winning again.
instead they gave Embiid a pity MVP
@@swaglike3792 Embiid did good in regular season man sure playoffs not the best but mvp based on season
@@ADarkos true statement by you
Gilbert Arena sleeping in the Arena in his rookie season is something else 😂
Jokic has reached the highest peak of any player in the 2000s, if he can keep it going for a few more years then he firmly puts himself in the goat convo.
Are you people on crack.
He won one ring
he needs another chip for top 10 and 1 more after that to contest jordan and lebron imo... if he manages to retire a nugget with 3 rings he's the GOAT imo
Triple single will never get old😂😂😂
Michael Redd for the bucks was a 💎 gem. Anyone remember that guy ?? Just a smooth shooting lefty
He was my favorite during the 00’s
Probably the only buck player I can think of between Kareem and Giannis
we know its u unc
I remember redd
His form was so unique too.
Great video just shows all it takes is dedication
Now the Joker is an NBA Champion and Finals MVP
31 pts and 11 asts a game would be nuts in today's NBA, but how much tougher the defense was when Nate played makes it even more impressive
It's 34 pts
Dončić has 34.3 PPG 9.8 APG, that is very close my friend
Joker brought my Nuggets a title after fifty plus years. A true legend
47 years actually
It goes to show that any player that entered the NBA draft has the chance to be great... It boils down to their commitment, passion and resilience to push through regardless of any setbacks that they have have at the beginning of their career.
And confidence a lot of mental fortitude
God.. Joker's story is so good and inspirational.
Paul Millsap was one of the 2nd round gems as well
The disrespect on The Joker is real considering this channel forgot to mention that he's also a world champion, Finals MVP, and led all in 3 major stats in this year's playoffs. 🃏💯
Remember in “Money Ball” when the old head recruiters were all SO hung up on jaw lines and good personalities that they couldn’t actually evaluate players effectively? That’s exactly how the NBA still works a lot of the time.
Isaiah Thomas is a guy you put on your team if you have the chance. it was ridiculous how some teams treated him because of height. he was an absolute alpha
Joker can pass the ball like he has eyes in the back of his head, he can block, he can push his was way through a wall of Defenders and if his team can't score. He just does it himself and score even 3 pointers. No wonder he is a MVP in the finals.
7:35 On the outside Michael is laughing. But on the inside, he took it personally. Something tells me this Kerr fellow might make a good coach someday.
jokic is by far the best 2nd rnd pick oat
closest is manu
Manu was one of the best players in the world in 2000s, definitely top 10, but yes, Jokić is better than Manu ever was.
@@DipsAndPushupsteam
Stop comparing 2000s to 2010s 2020s
@@KingAllen-r2gwe are comparing best 2nd round picks oat not era’s 🤯
This one got a lot of things wrong but the things it got right were very informative. I give it a B+.
Nonstop should go in the 2nd round
jalen brunson and jokic are the prime examples
That thumnail is so good, u made JOKIC look handsome.
Didn't think it was possible
The lesson is learned to respect everyone . Nobody knows what they bring to us .
Isaiah was my favourite player and I will always hate the Ltics 🤷🏽♂️ for how dirty they did their best player since arguably Larry Bird
you think IT was better than Poop'd the Pants Pierce? This take is bad and you should feel bad
@@alexmammoth2916 think he meant, whoever was their best player since Larry Bird, progression wise. So when IT was there Pierce wasn’t. So IT was the Celtics best player at the time.
7:30 Man Jordan was dirty. Look at the kick he had on Stockton. Never noticed that before.
He was on the air...
@@emilioreyes4159
Completely unnatural foot movement
Crazy how Stockton didn't even dare to complain. Nowadays players barely get touched and go to the ground.
@@calamorta I disagree about the unnatural movement, you cam say Stocktom was in his landing area
But I do agree om the second thing lol back then you went to play and that's it
lmao putting I. Thomas near Kevin Hart is just hilarious, I thought how did he get so big??
jokic got his revenge. he treats NBA like his sidechick but still won the championship 💀
Unmmm actually Nate isn’t the only player to have the most points and assists as in the 2021-2022 Trae young did it!
It's bullshit how they dont technically recognise that, he didn't win those stats because of games played, Joel played less but scored close to Trae so it works out as a higher PPG and he got the official scoring title.
Jokic is sleeping while he was drafted. Dude really don't give a F!😂
How iconic arenas said he wanted to be a pimp and ended up in Oakland 😂
jOKER SAYS THAT " BASKETBALL IS NOT THE MAIN THING IN MY LIFE" HAHA SO HUMBLE MVP
He is already a legend for achievement as second round draft pick
Adam silver sounds zesty af when he’s announcing isiah Thomas
When he mentioned Kerr I died "a skinny unathletic white guy" 🤣
the gilbert arenas story is actually so dope wtf
Im surprise Taco Bell doesn't have a meal after Jokic lol
W video like all ways nonstop sports
Imagine being 6'7'' and still lacking height in the NBA
It’s not a crazy concept. The average NBA player is 6’7. So if you’re a big man who plays the 4/5 the whole game you actually are undersized. Draymond had perfect timing though. As basketball started becoming position-less Draymond started making a name for himself in the NBA
Funny thing in NBA live 07 back when i was a kid i use to make a lot of created players that i made up, coincidence is I made a Marc Gasol without even knowing Pau had a brother and his name was mark still makes me feel wierd when i remember that lol
I think jokic is already the best center
Please make a video about Jordan Clarkson because he was a late 2nd round pick too, but he's doing well right now
sorry for my english
I loved Gil as a Player. And IT was a damn inspiration.
Me thinking Isaiah Thomas looks so short and here I am shorter than him😅
Lol
If Gil didnt get injured and wasnt immature.. he coulda been him 🔥🔥
So, what would be the probabilities of drafting an MVP winner in the 2nd round of the NBA Draft? That sounds like an even more interesting premise.
Manu wasn’t Spanish. He was Argentinian. Apart from that you got everything else about him right. Manu was also the only player who got his jersey retired.
HISpanic, not Spanish.
But I agree NOT the same.
It was “spanish-speaking”
"Spanish speaking" meaning he spoke Spanish not that he was from Spain
Listening comprehension is important
He said "another Spanish-speaking".
Do the top 10 best players from the 2023 NBA Playoffs
Bill was being honest and playing with them
"Geno-Billy" 😂😂😂
A honorable 2nd round is Willis Reed he’s the first 2nd rounder to win MVP and he won 2 championships
Nikola Jokic part time job NBA , he care a lot more about his horses in Serbia 😅😂😅😂😅😂
Manu wasn’t spanish btw, he is Argentinian i think
“Spanish-speaking”
👍
You think? Get your shit together and learn some geography
Joker rules, but best passing big man? You have to consider Sabonis and Bird if you classify Bird as a big man.
Brother he lock 4 yrs ago ``the best big ever`` thing,now he is in the conversation in any position as the best ever.
bid was definitely not a big man and jokic is definitely better than sabonis at passing
Petition for a Taco Bell commercial featuring Jokic
Pretty cool how NBA players have access to use the team facility 24x7
Sounds like Gilbert was just hilarious. Had he won anything he would be known as the funniest nba player ever.
Joker is the future tom brady. picked one of the last in draft yet became the most dominant
Gilbert Arenas answering I want to be an international pimp is just hilarious. Dumb as hell, but hilarious
10 triple double in 1 playoff
my man joker make a joke of the entire NBA
Good afternoon..did i miss willis Reed????? 1964 second round 4 the knicks...
"International pimp" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
11:03 Um what is the average height in the NBA? Because I didn't know 6'7" was short 😭
6'7" is short for a power forward.
@@PuroRoot Barkley was 6' 5" or so - but that was VERY short for a superstar power forward.
@@bricefleckenstein9666Barkley is strong as hell
@@bricefleckenstein9666 he's the GOAT "small" big man
@@PuroRoot thanks for the heads up that's 🤯
This is s very fascinating.
Now watch Jordan walsh having an insane career! kid got heart and energy
5:36 POV: *Trae young*' in 2K be like💀💀💀
That Dennis Rodman background info is wayyyy off. Other than that, the video is good.
Funny thing is that second round picks are sometimes better than first round picks
I agree with you
Facts hell take a look at the 2013 NBA Draft Giannis for example (I know he got selected in the 1st round but I just want to prove that alot more all stars and Hall Of Famers are taken outside the the top 10 rather than being taken in the top 10)
Ginobili was great for national team of Argentina even before he was drafted , beating the powerhouse countries, but NBA teams where still skeptical of him that he ended up being picked 3rd from the last😂..
Someone tell me why Draymond has always looked 40 years old😂
Arenas dropping like that was probably a good reality check for him at the time
Steve Kerr came up and I had to recheck the title of the vid
"Kerr was a skinny, unathletic white guy" 😂😂😂
What about undrafted players who made an all-star
5:46 he not the only one anymore
even joker didn't bother stay up and watch himself get drafted......legends don;t need too i guess
That Gilbert Arenas story is proof that no matter how talented people are, if they’re stupid they’ll crash and burn every time.
I noticed that in basketball talent is not subtile but obvious. In hockey, soccer or other sports, the best at 14 or 15 are rarely the best at the highest level.
What would be the equivalent of a 2nd pick in basketball in terms of the nfl draft
honerable mention for Jimmy butler. last pick of the first round.
Toni Kukoc came pretty close to averaging 20 points per game in 2001 while playing for an awful Hawks team. This is supposed to be a list of superstars though and neither Toni Kukoc or Steve Kerr were even All-Stars so I'm not sure how they qualify here.
Yeah but you don’t know anything about basketball so your stupid opinion doesn’t count.
Bro rly called 67 draymond “shirt and chubby”
Do the best players from this years playoffs
gg jackson will be here too
the real GOAT
Jaylen Brown your next video Nonstop 🙏🙏🙏
13:00 manu is from argentina, not spain
spanish speaking not from spain
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Edit the title... a bunch of guys included are nowhere near "Superstar" status...
With the 41st pick, the Taco Bel... *cough* ...sorry the denver nuggets select Nikola Jokic.
ginobili is from argentina, why u said he was spanish too?
Draymond know the name of everyone drafted before him 😭😭that is so petty
So MJ had the filthiest most stacked squad of all time.
Jalen brunson should be on the list
You forgot Tony Parker brother