Gilbert, we used to say “hi” to each other on the U of A campus as you walked very fast to wherever you were going!! Gil has an incredibly fast walk and a lovely way about him before he became a standout. I had season tickets right behind the goalpost. He was such an amazing slasher to the goalpost. My favorite college player. I was his fan first because of his friendliness. I was a female non-traditional student. I am very proud of Gilbert for being a dad and being an articulate man who brings me joy today too! Good job, Gilbert Arenas!! Norah
What? Strategy😂😂😂 yeah if I'm the coach my "strategy" is give Steph curry the ball yeah that'd make me a genius h.o.f. coach 😂 unlocked plays shooting😂😂😂 or maybe gave kd the will to win ? Stop it a 5 year old could coach that team and be coach of the year
@@ShroomGodBreadzilla I only played at a. Elite level your a nerd so u know stats say that the type of shit ppl say when they not athletes themselves 😭😭😭
I figure great coaching isn’t just play calling or creating an offense but more so manifest a culture of winning through trust, respect and understanding that the coach is the true point guard of a team and the way the team plays is an extension of the coaches themselves. The way you play is essentially how you would play if he was on the court running with y’all in the way he wants.
@@shotarokaneda7525 well we can ask harden, Durant pre and post warriors, Irving, shit to extent you could even argue for jimmy to be a talent but not talented
The only one of all those names that he needed was Jordan, u saw the last dance, the players didn't love MJ, they respected the shit out of his hard work and feared his mentality. The season where they won 63 games, it wasn't f Phil coaching MJ was pissed they Lost to Shaq the year prior, coming into that season he was on everybody ass, Phil job was to make sure no one snapped and follow through.
@@beery6659If you truly don’t know who Horace Grant, is you telling us you young or you truly not a fan of basketball like you think. Horace was a top pick and left the Bull after winning a championship with them believe went to the Magic to put up buckets and lead them into the playoffs etc…
The greatness of Phil Jackson was convincing Michael and Scottie to allow Dennis Rodman to skirt team rules, because you can't get the best out of Rodman unless you let Worm be Worm.
Not only did Jordan not want Jackson to take over, but Jordan scored 30 points a game before and after him so Jordan wasn't the change that brought a championship. Jackson, the triangle and him making Scottie step up(making him point small forward) and guarding Magic is what changed them into a championship team. Also Kobe and Shaq didn't start off as champions either. Yes the star players don't really need coaching like Jordan and Kobe, but it's not a solo game. And neither one of them started off being the "team" player. Jackson helped form them 2 dynasties.
They forgot who MJ was before winning those championships. You'all ignoring what happened to Kobe after Phil left the first time. They were great but they're not winning. Coaches has hands on the system. Even if you have a big 3 but if the coach can't get them somewhere they will not win.
Pippen and Jordan didn't have "some butting", the last shot querrel Pippen had was when Michael was off the team playing baseball, and he then tought he naturally was too be given the reigns of the realm. There was no doubt who was taking the last shot when MJ was on the team.
You can't stop the triangle offense when everyone's moving in the balls constantly moving remember the ball moves faster than a person. Now think about it when you're on defense in your understanding where the ball is moving you're going to be even a better player on defense than you are on
Phil definitely coached Jordan and Kobe, he unlocked a mental factor to their game that they wouldn’t have developed without him. Especially Kobe, you saw it evaporate whenever Phil Jackson wasn’t the coach of the lakers.
I'm glad you noticed. I am getting tired of Gilbert acting like Coaching is easy. Michael Jordan made the same mistake when he said organizations don't win championships and he got first hand experience as an Owner that the Owner DOES HEAVILY INFLUENCE whether his organization can win championships. If you don't hire the right management, draft the right players, and hire the right coach and trade for the right players...you ain't winning ANYTHING. My main issue is people try to separate and downgrade specific pieces....not realizing that getting rid of a bench player that can keep the locker room peaceful could turn a team into turmoil. Look at the Warriors, they won a title and one dispute that went viral and public impacted their entire season. EVERYTHING matters when it comes to winning you can't separate ANYTHING.
@@ralx225b The Warriors had the biggest increase in win percentage for a rookie coach in NBA history, and they won the ring, with pretty much the same team they had the year prior, so people need to stop it with not giving Kerr his due respect and credit. Yes, he got hired to coach a team with great talent, a great coach knows enough to only go to such a team. But Marc Jackson had two recent all-stars in David Lee and Iggy, and two of the best shooters to ever live in Curry and Klay, and the Warriors were league average on offense and dead last in passes per game. With Bogut and Draymond both having great passing skills. Yes, it takes owners willing to pay to keep great talent, able to identify and hire a great coach, a GM able to draft and trade well, and a locker room that comes together and is willing to put egos aside to win. But coaches are not given enough credit or blame generally. Butler should have a stack of rings, he would if he did not have to play for so many years under bad coaches. Wiggins was blamed for the awful defensive coaching of his coaches until he got to the Warriors and showed he is a defensive stud. Draymond was a freaking bench player under Mark Jackson. Aaron Gordon was seen as not living up to his draft spot until he got traded to Denver. Great players and great coaches need each other to get it done, to go get rings.
Coaching is the hardest job in sports, but the problem is, only 5 coaches AT BEST are providing a positive impact. 20 coaches are actively providing an overall negative impact. There is 5 coaches that are basically daycare managers who are could be capable of doing more, but we need to see more.
Lol, didn't Phil quit because Kobe didn't want to listen to him back in 2004 when he shot LA out of the finals? It took a while for Kobe to grow up before that two peat later. @@ralx225b
Great question KMart. Horry was not a cultch player, he just made a cultch shots in and there. I can't call you a cultch player if you're not the go to player down the stretch.
It would’ve been, had Tim Duncan not changed his initial decision to join up with them in Orlando. That would’ve been an amazing Big 3 early in their respective careers.
McCants a NCAA Champion and averaged 15 in a season for the kings in a short career. I guess he didn’t have it in him enough to keep goin for several season…
I don't think coaches get enough credit. Key word, enough. To Gils point, not everyone can handle Miami's structure therefore I don't think the talented clippers squad would last under Spolestra and Riley's regime
Coaches also do not get enough blame. Butler, Aaron Gordon, Andrew Wiggins, there are a lot of players that are much better than the media wanted us to believe once they got to a good coach.
Doc rivers had : Tracy mcgrady Chris Paul Blake griffin Jamal Crawford KG Ray Allen Paul Pierce James harden Joel Embiid Ben Simmons What other coaches has coached talent like that?
A great coach may earn the right to not "coach" the star, but your average coach is going to F bleep up by trying to coach that star, trying to be "in charge," and just not getting out of his way. People forget that Marc Jackson had two of the best shooters to ever live on his team (and David Lee and Iggy with all-star appearances in 2013 and 2012 respectively) and managed to make the Warriors literally league average on offense. Curry did not magically make himself way better from 2013-14 to 2014-15, mostly that WAS Steve Kerr. Also, give Kerr his props man. Six Finals in nine years and four rings, going 3-1 against teams with LeBron James. You can say anything you want about Kerr getting a talented team to coach, it is still like someone going 3-1 against MJ in his prime, and if someone had done that you all would not be making excuses about what great talent that coach had on his team.
Team 1 Pg. Damian Lillard Sg. Devin Booker Sf. Jimmy Butler Pf. Jaren Jackson Jr C. Jarrett Allen Team 2 Pg. Jamal Murray Sg. Bradley Beal Sf. Jayson Tatum Pf. Domantas Sabonis C. Joel Embiid Team 3 Pg. De'Aaron Fox Sg. Anthony Edwards Sf. Andrew Wiggins Pf. Pascal Siakam C. Rudy Gobert Team 3 Pg. Luka Dončić Sg. Paul George Sf. DeMar DeRozan Pf. Anthony Davis C. Bam Adebayo Team 4 Pg. Trae Young Sg. Donovan Mitchell Sg. Mikal Bridges Pf. Kristaps Porziņģis C. Nikola Jokić Team 5 Pg. Ja Morant Sg. Jaylen Brown Sf. Kawhi Leonard Pf. Draymond Green C. Deandre Ayton Team 6 Pg. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander Sg. Klay Thompson Sf. Lebron James Pf. Evan Mobley C. Myles Turner Team 7 Pg. Kyrie Irving Sg. Dejounte Murray Sf. Kevin Durant Pf. John Collins C. Clint Capela Team 8 Pg. Stephen Curry Sg. Zach LaVine Sf. Michael Porter Jr Pf. Giannis Antetokounmpo C. Brook Lopez
Not to sound like a hater cause I love the show they never been in a championship team culture to know bc mike, Kobe , Shaq all say something different phill than KM and Gil
I’ll like to see maybe Gilbert, Joe Johnson and Lance Stephenson … Gil is intelligent, can explain things, as well as fun and goofy and loud sometimes…. Joe Johnson is well manner, on the quiet side… kinda would play the Fred Taylor role from the Pivot. Lance is entertaining, talk that talk… got respect in the league even tho he wasn’t one the best players and will bring that stuff with him
I'm so confused. Pop is a great coach but every star he had was self made and motivated. But Phil Jackson isn't? Phil who got Micheal to FINALLY trust his teammates and play in a system. This is why players cannot accurately critique. They have subconscious biases.
You know Manu and TP were lower draft pics that were developed. Even #2 was developed to the player he is today. If you look at the Spur's rosters, they usually had players nobody wanted and developed for specific roles like Boewn and Green
Agreed. Phil handled MJ, Pip and Rodman’s ego. If you will only use the Last Dance he don’t need to coach MJ cause they have built the relationship and the system and culture is now set. As for Kerr, he get hate for having the GS superteam but not every coach can handle that. They act like coaching is just about play call and games. Coaching also entails managing the roster.
Kobe and MJ NEVER won without Phil Jackson, that needs to be put into the equation. Kerr is about to run through this FIBA World Cup with a young, fairly less talented team than the one that got 7th place in the last WC, because he instilled that unselfish DNA and ball movement that is patent on every team he coaches and the success has been undeniable. This doesn't need to be EITHER/OR
@@beery6659 That's why i said it's neither either/or, it's both. You and thebguy above perfectly summarize the toxicity and simple mindedness of NBA discourse. Have you ever reached a milestone in life? If you ever did you might've realized it's impossible to do it alone, no matter how little or how much the people around you contributted.
MJ and Kobe are exeptions to being coached. Current NBA stars are different. They are young enough to realise that is critical moments, they should follow the coach. But their ego will not allow them to accept that knowledge. They think they can go hero ball 1-on-1 and win.
"Phil wasnt coachin nothin"-he only implemented the triangle offense and got jordan, pippen, rodman, to buy into it. Arenas never disappoints with his stupid comments.
@@THEMANCURTIS Yea, it didn't register well with the new era of players coming in. I would have loved to have a ZEN master like coach with an offense that has options. I always had the 'my way or the highway' one trick pony coaches.
Gotta be a great coach with the great talent. Look at the failed Durant teams. The Malone payton kobe team... gotta get them players to mesh and team together.
Think people forget how unwilling Kobe was to play with Shaq back in the day. He didn't even want to pass him the ball, then shot them out of a finals in 2004 with that mindset. He only got better after five years after probably realising that he was acting like a child lol
Y’all not giving Phil enough credit. Jordan was not winning at all until he bought into a system of getting other players involved. Phil Jackson did that.
That’s not true Gilbert Michael Jordan was in retirement that was given the last shot to Tony Kukoc, Scotty, and Michael never had a bump in until laser. Pippen left him.
I mean with Kerr, there are interviews with Draymond and Steph sayin how they had to spend a ton of time getting used to his system cause of how different it was from Mark Jackson. Overrated coaches I’d look at Rivers and Lue, Good coaches for sure, but not nearly as deserving for all the praise they get. Bad coaches you get Hoidberg, Walton, Rambis and low key Kidd, Karl
They forget that Kerr put up a different system and coached those players in his first year. Once steph, klay, dray, iggy and the team learned and accepted his system he just let the players run it.
Work ethic and coachable is different. Jordan was humble enough to take coaching. That's the difference between Jordan and Lebron. I'm a big LJ fan but was he coachable?
Warriors, Kerr gave those boys the green light for 3s Jackson didn’t give them. They would have never broken out and didn’t beforehand until his say-so. They’ll listen to him because of this, but a new coach if Kerr retires, no.
I feel like there is context missing with what gil is saying. Orl- grant hill was injury prone and was not the same level of talent as he was in Detroit. T-Mac was on the come up from Toronto so really his first all star level yrs were there so would you really expect them to win a championship. The answer is no. Just making the playoffs was good because they weren't that good after Shaq left anyway. Celtics - they appeared in 2 finals. None of the big three were physically in there prime so up to this point he has not coached a superstar level player. In there primes I would say KG is the best all around player and Paul was the more versatile scorer. What helped them win was rondo being able to add def and play making out of the point guard spot . Allowing the big three to take on there roles better. But the team wasn't exactly a great offensive team and coach tibs as a def coach probably had greater impact than coach Doc because the team fits his defensive mentality. Clippers - cp3 constantly gets injured and Blake. Neither of them are elite scoring talents. As a clipper fan I would say I don't think he coached Blake properly but the only way we would of even got to the championship is if most of the best players got hurt and are team was healthy. Sixers- let's be real sixers messed up when they kept Harris and Ben Simmons. Clearly overpaid Harris multi times at that. Ben clearly wasn't suited for that Philly crowd. I would blame him for not fighting to keep a Jimmy Butler but otherwise I never personally thought embids was going to win a title and I've always favored jokic point/Center style over embids forward/center style of play. Plus with the injuries. You could make the case embids is the best player he has ever had in terms of scoring and overall ability but probably not the best leader I'd say KG. To me a superstar on the court and when talk Pantheon great is someone that is both finals and regular season MVP. So by my standards he has never had one of thoughts coming in and generally he has had 3 situations A developing star, old stars, or injury prone stars. I don't think he is a great x and O's coach or defensive coach so I'm not big on calling him Hof coach
Gilbert, we used to say “hi” to each other on the U of A campus as you walked very fast to wherever you were going!!
Gil has an incredibly fast walk and a lovely way about him before he became a standout. I had season tickets right behind the goalpost. He was such an amazing slasher to the goalpost. My favorite college player. I was his fan first because of his friendliness. I was a female non-traditional student.
I am very proud of Gilbert for being a dad and being an articulate man who brings me joy today too!
Good job, Gilbert Arenas!!
Norah
I can’t wait to see this pod during the season, they do good creating content doing off season.
Didn’t think about that. Yea harder to get content during off-season.
Yea they gonna pop in season
K-Mart gets lots of respect from Gil. Good to see peers respecting each other
Rashad must be getting treatment on that high ankle sprain. 😂😂😂
Grade 2 😂😂
😂😂😂
You’ve never had a high ankle sprain it sounds like.
@@thestylemind4922 it’s joke you a loser dude beat it
Spo is a hell of a coach, his in game adjustments are second to none
Kerr introduced a lot of offensive, and defensive, ideas and strategies that really unlocked this squad.
Kerr has pulled offensive and defensive schemes I have NEVER seen anybody have the balls to try
What? Strategy😂😂😂 yeah if I'm the coach my "strategy" is give Steph curry the ball yeah that'd make me a genius h.o.f. coach 😂 unlocked plays shooting😂😂😂 or maybe gave kd the will to win ? Stop it a 5 year old could coach that team and be coach of the year
@@leftlaneopm5186 if you don't know hoops then just say you don't know hoops! 😆
@@ShroomGodBreadzilla I only played at a. Elite level your a nerd so u know stats say that the type of shit ppl say when they not athletes themselves 😭😭😭
@@leftlaneopm5186 I aint quoted one stat Elite Level TH-cam Commenter
I figure great coaching isn’t just play calling or creating an offense but more so manifest a culture of winning through trust, respect and understanding that the coach is the true point guard of a team and the way the team plays is an extension of the coaches themselves. The way you play is essentially how you would play if he was on the court running with y’all in the way he wants.
What if the most talented players do not fit that style.
@@shotarokaneda7525 well we can ask harden, Durant pre and post warriors, Irving, shit to extent you could even argue for jimmy to be a talent but not talented
Phil Jackson had a lot of personalities to deal with in Chicago. Jordan, Rodman, Pippen, Horace, and the list goes on.
Yeah but only one personality counts... fuck the rest ... we'll trade ya ass tmr
The only one of all those names that he needed was Jordan, u saw the last dance, the players didn't love MJ, they respected the shit out of his hard work and feared his mentality.
The season where they won 63 games, it wasn't f Phil coaching MJ was pissed they Lost to Shaq the year prior, coming into that season he was on everybody ass, Phil job was to make sure no one snapped and follow through.
@@beery6659If you truly don’t know who Horace Grant, is you telling us you young or you truly not a fan of basketball like you think. Horace was a top pick and left the Bull after winning a championship with them believe went to the Magic to put up buckets and lead them into the playoffs etc…
Only name I give you is Rodman because he fried and he a whole personality on his own
@@glcsander😊😊p
I knew Gil was coming for doc in this take😂
The greatness of Phil Jackson was convincing Michael and Scottie to allow Dennis Rodman to skirt team rules, because you can't get the best out of Rodman unless you let Worm be Worm.
Them stories of him not showering after a game and going out are still funny to me
@@SolaceMcflyso gross!!
@@princellasmith7562ball sweat all over the nightclub.
Phil's Greatness was the fortune of Coaching Chicago and the Lakers.
YES MAKING THE DAMN SHOT IS CLUTCH THATS THE FUKN DEFINITION KMART HATES EVERY SHOW
If he knocks down shots regularly in pressure situations that my friend Kenyon... is indeed Clutch 🎉
Good point by Gil, about what is a clutch player.
Spo and Pop are the best coaches in winning with what ever players they have, to win as much as they can.
We need swaggy back frfr❤❤he was priceless😂😂
Not only did Jordan not want Jackson to take over, but Jordan scored 30 points a game before and after him so Jordan wasn't the change that brought a championship. Jackson, the triangle and him making Scottie step up(making him point small forward) and guarding Magic is what changed them into a championship team. Also Kobe and Shaq didn't start off as champions either. Yes the star players don't really need coaching like Jordan and Kobe, but it's not a solo game. And neither one of them started off being the "team" player. Jackson helped form them 2 dynasties.
They forgot who MJ was before winning those championships.
You'all ignoring what happened to Kobe after Phil left the first time.
They were great but they're not winning. Coaches has hands on the system. Even if you have a big 3 but if the coach can't get them somewhere they will not win.
Pippen and Jordan didn't have "some butting", the last shot querrel Pippen had was when Michael was off the team playing baseball, and he then tought he naturally was too be given the reigns of the realm. There was no doubt who was taking the last shot when MJ was on the team.
He said when he wasn't there
That's why Gil is a genius.. he has Mccants on the show for comic relief
No...his take on things are comical...in reality McCants a stand-up guy
@@southernflavamaker how you know?
@@Triumphant144that’s Rashad talking to you 😂😂
@@ygm7thletter654 im a ngaa from Prichard Alabama that plays 2k when I can....kngslmm_hilllive
LMFAO
Gill be having the baddies on yesh yesh😢
Man wats her @🥱
Yeah that is Clutch for Robert Horry.
Bro wtf is that glowing starfish thing in the window behind Kenyon Martin! I dunno what it is, but it's dope, and I want 1 💯💯💯
Clutch can be bein up by 2 or 1 and u hit the shot to put them up by 3 or 4 wit seconds or a min left that’s clutch
You can't stop the triangle offense when everyone's moving in the balls constantly moving remember the ball moves faster than a person. Now think about it when you're on defense in your understanding where the ball is moving you're going to be even a better player on defense than you are on
Damn how Larry Brown is not in the conversation 😮
Coaching matters but ain't no coach winning without great players.
Rashad is the funniest person in media I swear
I was definitely looking for Mccants' take 😂😂😂
McCants that one friend you just keep around just to laugh at😭
It’s really shout to mark Jackson he started it
Phil definitely coached Jordan and Kobe, he unlocked a mental factor to their game that they wouldn’t have developed without him. Especially Kobe, you saw it evaporate whenever Phil Jackson wasn’t the coach of the lakers.
I'm glad you noticed. I am getting tired of Gilbert acting like Coaching is easy. Michael Jordan made the same mistake when he said organizations don't win championships and he got first hand experience as an Owner that the Owner DOES HEAVILY INFLUENCE whether his organization can win championships.
If you don't hire the right management, draft the right players, and hire the right coach and trade for the right players...you ain't winning ANYTHING. My main issue is people try to separate and downgrade specific pieces....not realizing that getting rid of a bench player that can keep the locker room peaceful could turn a team into turmoil.
Look at the Warriors, they won a title and one dispute that went viral and public impacted their entire season. EVERYTHING matters when it comes to winning you can't separate ANYTHING.
@@ralx225b The Warriors had the biggest increase in win percentage for a rookie coach in NBA history, and they won the ring, with pretty much the same team they had the year prior, so people need to stop it with not giving Kerr his due respect and credit. Yes, he got hired to coach a team with great talent, a great coach knows enough to only go to such a team. But Marc Jackson had two recent all-stars in David Lee and Iggy, and two of the best shooters to ever live in Curry and Klay, and the Warriors were league average on offense and dead last in passes per game. With Bogut and Draymond both having great passing skills.
Yes, it takes owners willing to pay to keep great talent, able to identify and hire a great coach, a GM able to draft and trade well, and a locker room that comes together and is willing to put egos aside to win.
But coaches are not given enough credit or blame generally. Butler should have a stack of rings, he would if he did not have to play for so many years under bad coaches. Wiggins was blamed for the awful defensive coaching of his coaches until he got to the Warriors and showed he is a defensive stud. Draymond was a freaking bench player under Mark Jackson. Aaron Gordon was seen as not living up to his draft spot until he got traded to Denver. Great players and great coaches need each other to get it done, to go get rings.
Coaching is the hardest job in sports, but the problem is, only 5 coaches AT BEST are providing a positive impact. 20 coaches are actively providing an overall negative impact. There is 5 coaches that are basically daycare managers who are could be capable of doing more, but we need to see more.
Lol, didn't Phil quit because Kobe didn't want to listen to him back in 2004 when he shot LA out of the finals? It took a while for Kobe to grow up before that two peat later. @@ralx225b
Great question KMart. Horry was not a cultch player, he just made a cultch shots in and there. I can't call you a cultch player if you're not the go to player down the stretch.
Gil wild for the doc comment but he not lying like damn Doc only 1!!!!
It’s ALL ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS
Gil so damn funny bruh
Trust me I have so much knowledge and gained it and make some people look stupid❤
U can't really count Doc's Orlando years. Grant Hill was injured most of that time and even though McGrady was great, they didn't have a great team.
It would’ve been, had Tim Duncan not changed his initial decision to join up with them in Orlando. That would’ve been an amazing Big 3 early in their respective careers.
McCants needed an episode off… a couple more tbh 💯💯💯
Boi the internet ain’t shit 😂😂😂😂
This is an old episode clips being uploaded dummy
McCants a NCAA Champion and averaged 15 in a season for the kings in a short career. I guess he didn’t have it in him enough to keep goin for several season…
Nba is about consistency that’s what separate superstars from
The average player
If they did this live I would def go lol
I don't think coaches get enough credit. Key word, enough. To Gils point, not everyone can handle Miami's structure therefore I don't think the talented clippers squad would last under Spolestra and Riley's regime
Coaches also do not get enough blame. Butler, Aaron Gordon, Andrew Wiggins, there are a lot of players that are much better than the media wanted us to believe once they got to a good coach.
@@tribalypredisposed I get your point but those players may not be the best examples. Point taken though
Big shot bob was clutch. The disrespect is real. 😂
Doc rivers had :
Tracy mcgrady
Chris Paul
Blake griffin
Jamal Crawford
KG
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce
James harden
Joel Embiid
Ben Simmons
What other coaches has coached talent like that?
Good video
Doc can't help that his players were no shows and injury prone during the playoffs.
😂
always ay
nah he cant keep getting a pass, cause he just gave up lead in a series this year...AGAIN
Bullshit 😒
He has not in game/ series adjustments… Doc overrated as Gil says 😂
I said Doc Rivers to my brother when Gil asked the what coach had the most talent thats crazy
K Mart shirt is super drippy 😮💨🔥
Spo's on the Mt Rushmore of coaches. And I'm a Raptors fan.
A great coach may earn the right to not "coach" the star, but your average coach is going to F bleep up by trying to coach that star, trying to be "in charge," and just not getting out of his way. People forget that Marc Jackson had two of the best shooters to ever live on his team (and David Lee and Iggy with all-star appearances in 2013 and 2012 respectively) and managed to make the Warriors literally league average on offense. Curry did not magically make himself way better from 2013-14 to 2014-15, mostly that WAS Steve Kerr.
Also, give Kerr his props man. Six Finals in nine years and four rings, going 3-1 against teams with LeBron James. You can say anything you want about Kerr getting a talented team to coach, it is still like someone going 3-1 against MJ in his prime, and if someone had done that you all would not be making excuses about what great talent that coach had on his team.
He coached him into playing within a team concept. Doug Collins obviously wasn't doing something.
I don't think the Warriors would have reached the greatness they have if Steve Kerr drafted those players that he inherited
Team 1
Pg. Damian Lillard
Sg. Devin Booker
Sf. Jimmy Butler
Pf. Jaren Jackson Jr
C. Jarrett Allen
Team 2
Pg. Jamal Murray
Sg. Bradley Beal
Sf. Jayson Tatum
Pf. Domantas Sabonis
C. Joel Embiid
Team 3
Pg. De'Aaron Fox
Sg. Anthony Edwards
Sf. Andrew Wiggins
Pf. Pascal Siakam
C. Rudy Gobert
Team 3
Pg. Luka Dončić
Sg. Paul George
Sf. DeMar DeRozan
Pf. Anthony Davis
C. Bam Adebayo
Team 4
Pg. Trae Young
Sg. Donovan Mitchell
Sg. Mikal Bridges
Pf. Kristaps Porziņģis
C. Nikola Jokić
Team 5
Pg. Ja Morant
Sg. Jaylen Brown
Sf. Kawhi Leonard
Pf. Draymond Green
C. Deandre Ayton
Team 6
Pg. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Sg. Klay Thompson
Sf. Lebron James
Pf. Evan Mobley
C. Myles Turner
Team 7
Pg. Kyrie Irving
Sg. Dejounte Murray
Sf. Kevin Durant
Pf. John Collins
C. Clint Capela
Team 8
Pg. Stephen Curry
Sg. Zach LaVine
Sf. Michael Porter Jr
Pf. Giannis Antetokounmpo
C. Brook Lopez
Not to sound like a hater cause I love the show they never been in a championship team culture to know bc mike, Kobe , Shaq all say something different phill than KM and Gil
Horry is clutch.
Great coaching has more to do with managing the persona or allowing their players to be themselves.
To act like Horry ain’t clutch isn’t fkn wiiiiilllllllddddd! 😂😂🤦🏽♂️
I’ll like to see maybe Gilbert, Joe Johnson and Lance Stephenson …
Gil is intelligent, can explain things, as well as fun and goofy and loud sometimes….
Joe Johnson is well manner, on the quiet side… kinda would play the Fred Taylor role from the Pivot.
Lance is entertaining, talk that talk… got respect in the league even tho he wasn’t one the best players and will bring that stuff with him
Robert is clutch ain't no way around it
McCant talk that talk don’t let them change the way u think
Them commenting on the coaches on teams that won multiple championships. Is like me commenting on how they workout for the nba
Talking that real deal hollyfield facts og's
Bro come on Doc coached Grant Hill after all his ankle injuries started. Gil was making his point w/o throwing GHill's name into it.
So when you're on offense now you're able and capable of scoring every time you have possession of whether you're on defense or offense
Josiah looks like if iLoveMakonnen chose the hoop over the hot comb
Fam Mark Jackson made that team
I'm so confused. Pop is a great coach but every star he had was self made and motivated. But Phil Jackson isn't? Phil who got Micheal to FINALLY trust his teammates and play in a system. This is why players cannot accurately critique. They have subconscious biases.
You know Manu and TP were lower draft pics that were developed. Even #2 was developed to the player he is today. If you look at the Spur's rosters, they usually had players nobody wanted and developed for specific roles like Boewn and Green
Agreed. Phil handled MJ, Pip and Rodman’s ego. If you will only use the Last Dance he don’t need to coach MJ cause they have built the relationship and the system and culture is now set. As for Kerr, he get hate for having the GS superteam but not every coach can handle that. They act like coaching is just about play call and games. Coaching also entails managing the roster.
Kobe and MJ NEVER won without Phil Jackson, that needs to be put into the equation. Kerr is about to run through this FIBA World Cup with a young, fairly less talented team than the one that got 7th place in the last WC, because he instilled that unselfish DNA and ball movement that is patent on every team he coaches and the success has been undeniable. This doesn't need to be EITHER/OR
@@tebandulin5637Kerr made that gs team into the super team
@@beery6659 That's why i said it's neither either/or, it's both. You and thebguy above perfectly summarize the toxicity and simple mindedness of NBA discourse. Have you ever reached a milestone in life? If you ever did you might've realized it's impossible to do it alone, no matter how little or how much the people around you contributted.
MJ and Kobe are exeptions to being coached.
Current NBA stars are different. They are young enough to realise that is critical moments, they should follow the coach. But their ego will not allow them to accept that knowledge. They think they can go hero ball 1-on-1 and win.
"Phil wasnt coachin nothin"-he only implemented the triangle offense and got jordan, pippen, rodman, to buy into it. Arenas never disappoints with his stupid comments.
I feel like a good coach is Like oil for the engine just be there and don’t cause friction.
Every single time he get on this show , Rashad mccants show me why the league said he had a attitude problem 😂😂 he so sassy for no reason
Kerr is important for fully unlocking the Warriors for the first 2 seasons .. After that Talent and Curry been carrying that bum
That clipper team in Miami would be full of injuries after training camp
Phil Jackson had a system of how to play, his motivation and respect for the players space and boundaries made him the best coach ever.
Tex Winter's, created the triangle offense he should be mention more with Phil
"His system" was exposed when he didn't have Kobe/Mike to bail him out in NY🤣🤣🤣
He was an ass coach when he didn’t have the best players
@arturorodriguez8223 or he had players that didn't fully buy into it
@@THEMANCURTIS Yea, it didn't register well with the new era of players coming in. I would have loved to have a ZEN master like coach with an offense that has options. I always had the 'my way or the highway' one trick pony coaches.
Gotta be a great coach with the great talent. Look at the failed Durant teams. The Malone payton kobe team... gotta get them players to mesh and team together.
Pat had the showtime lakers gil trippin rn
Think people forget how unwilling Kobe was to play with Shaq back in the day. He didn't even want to pass him the ball, then shot them out of a finals in 2004 with that mindset. He only got better after five years after probably realising that he was acting like a child lol
I get wkat k mart is saying about clutch. If robert misses nobody gives a fuck. Its robert horry 😂
This should be the new cast they have great chemistry
Y’all not giving Phil enough credit. Jordan was not winning at all until he bought into a system of getting other players involved. Phil Jackson did that.
That’s not true Gilbert Michael Jordan was in retirement that was given the last shot to Tony Kukoc, Scotty, and Michael never had a bump in until laser. Pippen left him.
Big shot Rob put spurs on his back 1 game vs Detroit
I mean with Kerr, there are interviews with Draymond and Steph sayin how they had to spend a ton of time getting used to his system cause of how different it was from Mark Jackson.
Overrated coaches I’d look at Rivers and Lue, Good coaches for sure, but not nearly as deserving for all the praise they get.
Bad coaches you get Hoidberg, Walton, Rambis and low key Kidd, Karl
No way is George Karl a bad coach
They forget that Kerr put up a different system and coached those players in his first year. Once steph, klay, dray, iggy and the team learned and accepted his system he just let the players run it.
@@danieljbrightmon true, could be under overrated, but too many stories of him bein an ass to players hence no stars really wanted to play for him
Gil knocking down every chick that comes on this show. That mansion does something to a chick.
Work ethic and coachable is different. Jordan was humble enough to take coaching. That's the difference between Jordan and Lebron. I'm a big LJ fan but was he coachable?
Warriors, Kerr gave those boys the green light for 3s Jackson didn’t give them. They would have never broken out and didn’t beforehand until his say-so. They’ll listen to him because of this, but a new coach if Kerr retires, no.
Who’s the lady?
Kenyon "uknowatimsayin" Martin
Doc be managing he don’t really be coaching
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When the hell did Phil coach Lebron lmao?
lexi is fine as hell
Greg Popovich
Phil Jackson
Steve Kerr
Larry Bird
The girl on this show fire
Mark JACKSON get him on the show!!!
The reason why Denver won the championship is because they ran the triangle
I feel like there is context missing with what gil is saying.
Orl- grant hill was injury prone and was not the same level of talent as he was in Detroit. T-Mac was on the come up from Toronto so really his first all star level yrs were there so would you really expect them to win a championship. The answer is no. Just making the playoffs was good because they weren't that good after Shaq left anyway.
Celtics - they appeared in 2 finals.
None of the big three were physically in there prime so up to this point he has not coached a superstar level player. In there primes I would say KG is the best all around player and Paul was the more versatile scorer. What helped them win was rondo being able to add def and play making out of the point guard spot . Allowing the big three to take on there roles better. But the team wasn't exactly a great offensive team and coach tibs as a def coach probably had greater impact than coach Doc because the team fits his defensive mentality.
Clippers - cp3 constantly gets injured and Blake. Neither of them are elite scoring talents. As a clipper fan I would say I don't think he coached Blake properly but the only way we would of even got to the championship is if most of the best players got hurt and are team was healthy.
Sixers- let's be real sixers messed up when they kept Harris and Ben Simmons. Clearly overpaid Harris multi times at that. Ben clearly wasn't suited for that Philly crowd. I would blame him for not fighting to keep a Jimmy Butler but otherwise I never personally thought embids was going to win a title and I've always favored jokic point/Center style over embids forward/center style of play. Plus with the injuries. You could make the case embids is the best player he has ever had in terms of scoring and overall ability but probably not the best leader I'd say KG.
To me a superstar on the court and when talk Pantheon great is someone that is both finals and regular season MVP.
So by my standards he has never had one of thoughts coming in and generally he has had 3 situations
A developing star, old stars, or injury prone stars.
I don't think he is a great x and O's coach or defensive coach so I'm not big on calling him Hof coach
Dont discount Coach Kerr.
He took talent and molded it into the greatest moving/unguardable offence in the last 10 years.
Coaches with most overall talent to coach:
1. Phil
2. Doc
3. Pat Riley
4. Pop
5. ??
Spo
Red Auerbach...
Larry brown..
Kinda Mike brown
Rick Aderman
Isiah Thomas
Don Nelson, but he smoked a lot so 50/50
Red
Why did dude bring up Robert Horry? Smh....
People act like MJ and Kobe would win without Phil