This reminds me of the time I studied physics at college, most students would just accept and remember what was taught to them, but others would ask a lot of questions. Sure the ones who accepted what they learnt, learnt quicker and got good marks but those who asked questions and over analysed them understood the content much better.
My problem is I don't accept things from the first attempt, when our class was taught digital fundamentals I didn't accept the concept, because I need to know the subject from the beginning so I found a book named "The Code" which provided clear and reasonable explonation of the topic and everytime we were being taught to new material I robotically remembered the explonations from "The Code". So when I have to learn something I critisize the way we are being taught and run for other sources. I need answers to the questions -Why we use especially this? -What are the benefits? -What other methods exist? And so on.
MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE. Overthinking is also SO draining. What helped me, I believe, is just living in the PRESENT and stop planning everything and judging everything you do. I'm trying to work on GROWTH mindset instead of fixed mindset. Focusing on process instead of final outcome all the time.
we share something i'm happy i'm not alone x) but the video says everything... that's the cause that ruined and still ruin my life.. I can't escape this HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
Just listen to music or drive around or do something menial until your brain relaxes into a more simple empty zen "rhythm". When your brain falls into that "rhythm" it is pretty hard for it to just snap out if it. Then you should be able to learn more easily. I don't know how it is that you could learn more easily without thinking as much. Anyway this kind of research no matter how primitive could definitely help us develop more complex A.I. for sophisticated machines that need to learn while actively being used.
Rakib sdq No there is a common misconception that not thinking is bad but evidence suggests it can actually foster neuroplasticity, meditation and mindfulness are predicated on not thinking and they are both linked to positive developments in the brain.
Rakib sdq Somewhat. It's perspective really. Be stupid as in looking stupid via asking questions that everyone apparently understood/accepted, then ok. If be stupid as in not understanding concepts and refusing the learn them, then no.
Progress came from overthinkers, new ideas came from them too, looks like fast learners can only use and reproduce what they learn, and would never make a step with it... because they never think about it really with other words if there was no overthinkers... the rest wouldn't have any material to learn
wtf.. overthinking kills your sleep and you are lazy all the day.. so you are less productive and your life become worst.. the balance between thinking and actions this what makes things better.. AND WHEN IT'S TIME TO SLEEP THEN SLEEP AND TURN OFF THIS FUCKING THINKING MECANISM DAAAAMN
It's hard to learn things you're not interested in. But when it's something you passionate about you learn everything instantly. America's school system is terrible, they focus on shoveling in as much info as possible and forcing them into standardized tests rather than inspiring the students making them WANT to learn. School needs to be interesting. Having ADD my whole life teachers always blamed me for being lazy, but it was their boring ass methods of teaching that lead to my downfall. It's hard to learn something you're not interested in when you have ADD especially when lazy teachers do nothing but hand you text books.
good to know that American kids face the exact same issues as Asians. In fact I remember commenting something similar to this on a video abt why there are no technological innovations in Asia.
Why is learning SOO Hard? Answer: Because it's BORING making someone learn something they don't want to learn. Duh. I don't need a scientist to tell me this. Example: People who LOVE to play sports make time to play and get better; people who watch TV Shows like Game of Thrones remember all the characters name REALLY fast after 1 season; people who like a SPECIFIC subject (example) Art, they get REALLY good after a few years of drawing; people who read manga/watch anime etc. Put in short: If the person likes the topic/subject the person will GLADLY learn things easier and be more into it, to take extra steps to learning it more and FASTER.
Telling an over-thinker not to think so much is a problem. Because then you start over-thinking about not-thinking. I know I get in my own way so much right now but I can't turn it off.
Learning isn't hard when you totally and fully love the information you're seeking. Make education available when people want it. It's way more efficient and more pleasant for the students and the teachers.
lalamelol Correlation not causation. People that learn slower have to think more while doing it. People who learn fast do not have to think as much while doing it, and have systems in place for learning efficiently.
I have ADD and I learn new things faster than anybody I've ever met. However, I don't really think all that much about what I'm doing. Most of my conscious thought is pure reflection, introspection. When I'm doing things I just do it on instinct. The moment someone makes me think about what I'm doing I can't do it anymore. Like I tell people... "I don't know ANYTHING... I just DO things and it works."
Lord Maliko I completely agree. I have ADD and when I was in school I would go on instinct when doing algebra, geometry, and trig. I would end up with the correct answer but when asked what process I used to find the answer and to do it again explaining the steps i would not be able to do it because id be worrying to much about each step. This usually ended up with me being accused of cheating.
I remember this girl in college and she was always doing much better than me any my friend in a class about computer networking. We knew she knew absolutely nothing about networking in the real world. Me and my friend knew lots various real world configurations. We discovered it was helpful to forget about what we already knew and just learn the data as a string of meaningless text like she saw it. This video actually blew me away because it describes this phenomenon perfectly. I had no idea it was an actual thing.
I was born with ADHD. That kind of explains why I'm probably an over-thinker. I always try to go too much in depth with any concept to better visualize how a problem first got apprehended or understood. As much as I think it's useful to understand every little thing that makes up a subject, it can really be a hindrance to the process of learning. In the long-run, at least one can get a better understanding of whatever they are learning by analyzing every aspect and going into details.
Isn't it more a question about actually learning something, in contrast to memorizing? I would argue that in order to actually learn something and use that knowledge productively. You have to integrate it. And put it into context.
Serah Wint Good point. I think this relates more to learning to do a task than gaining understanding of a subject. We need a different approach for the theory side of things than we do the practical side.
Because the world is not fair! There are some talents that you can never beat no matter how hard you are learning, just accept the fact that you are an average person!
Overthinking is not necessarily bad, I think it makes you more critical towards everything, and when you are second guessing everything it makes you a much more intellectual person. But I suppose society doesn't want that kind of person, people who don't ask questions are much easier to control. :)
Ohhh god. Okay two things, add makes a kind of artificial over thinking effect, especially in kids. I recall getting up in the middle of 3rd grade class in some special gifted school while the teacher was talking just to get a National Geographic or anatomy book because the teacher was boring me. I didn't get straight A's, though I did get the school's highest honor because good teachers recognize intellect even if it's bad at learning. Second thing is that smarter brains don't simply accept knowledge at face value. They seek to understand, even to the point of missing simple facts and principles. This is why they even have gifted schools and classes!
***** If i don't over analyze things, i forget them very quickly. There are things that seem not to make sense and leaving those questions whithout answers makes me feel that i didn't learn anything.I need to understand things, otherwise learning is unpleasing to me
I got tested for special ed because I would respond so slow. Part of it was I was just double checking things and questioning myself. I got OK grades and dropped out in 5th grade. When I went t college I often was able to explain things the best because I took the time to reason everything out. I took electrical engineering and for every explanation I'd take it down to the quantum physics level and follow it through function. I had ONE teacher who taught this way, I was super excited, unfortunately we got off to a bad start and we never got along. Its not about over thinking things, I think, its about stressing about learning. Things aren't hard, they're just different, you've gotta figure out how to make them similar. Put the dots closer together so you're not making such big leaps from concept to concept. Talk to yourself in your head like your explaining something to a child, "this and then this and then this, see its not so hard, good job!", (its in your head, nobody can hear you, don't worry).
skykid I thought every test question was a trick question and would over analyze every question,. I needed to know why math equations worked. I always asked why about everything; and tried to figure out the reason behind every little thing we were supposed to learn. Thus I was a very slow learner, average/poor on tests and I thought I was a moron; but I seemed to know so much stuff. They even had me tested several times for I.Q. and learning disabilities. With a tested I.Q. of 145 & high reasoning abilities; The problem was I over-thought everything. thankfully the counselor recognized the problem and put me in higher learning and research classes.
Children don't have as many bad experiences, regrets, and mistakes as grown up do. Those experiences tend to interfere with learning. Pride and responsibilities makes it even harder. Basically it is comfort zones that makes it hard to learn.
Children appear to learn faster because they are not already full of contradicting facts in their heads whereas adults have to censor out everything they have learned previously (especially if it contradicts what they're about to learn) in order to learn something new. I overthink on certain topics either because the teacher is poor at teaching or that the topic is complex. The advice of just "let it happen and stop overthinking" is cute but not very helpful. Telling someone not to overthink is telling them to think about not thinking. Good luck with that. Lol
+soonny002 *" Children appear to learn faster because they are not already full of contradicting facts in their heads whereas adults have to censor out everything they have learned previously (especially if it contradicts what they're about to learn) in order to learn something new. "* I like the way you worded that.
i think over thinking is good because if you don't find answer that's mean it wrong or maybe you can find something new in it over thinking is help me to learn new things batter and it also give more general knowledge
The best way I've found to go about this is to just pay attention while any teaching/instructing/reading is happening and then process it all afterward or in a break and only to solidify what it is that you actally just were told/read.
This makes sense. If I'm being shown something new I don't just watch the entire process and then try doing it. I think out each step, different approaches, and possible problems all along the way. It takes me longer to get it but then when I do it it's done well right from the start.
i'm a slow learner and yes i guess i overthink everything trying to think if my solution makes sense, can support itself, can be supported without any major or even minor conflicts, even the support is thoroughly thought of and the support before it and so on until such time that i don't know how to solve it any longer. i'll try to depressurize my remaining brainpower. Keep up the Good Work.
No, I think this is only true for things that are learned into the prefrontal cortex which learns by habit, not thought. But ease of replication through habit does not mean understanding, which is another subset of what it means to learn.
+Golden Rockefeller That's a good hunch. Maybe this video doesn't disambiguate (emphatically enough) between "learning about something" vs "learning how to do something". I think the latter is what the video is describing; she does say "learn a task" in key places. I mean I guess one could say "how to argue about a subject" or "synthesize ideas across subjects" is a "how to do something" involving and benefiting from more frontal cortex stuff even if not purely. I also think the process of understanding greatly benefits from having learned solid intuition/habit related to that subject, so there's still value to not overthinking at least at SOME stages. I'm imagining this in terms of how mathematicians must have a deep intuition from repeated and patterned solving of problems so they can analyze larger patterns which are comprised of those many small and repetitive tasks, instead of being stuck philosophizing about basic arithmetic.
Yes. I can learn a million different things superficially like a moron or I can actually integrate some of it into myself and shape myself into a brilliant person. Unlike these researchers who can't make that connection. No, smart people are standing in their own way. Of what? Becoming sheep? "What ways are you stunting your growth and holding back your success?" Wtf kind of horrific shit is that? Why kind of buzzfeed moron writes this?
+rhoharane i don't know if that's really the subject but it seems to me that to learn quickly is related to both motivation and association. for example if someone literally links maths with the understanding of the universe they won't grok anything at practical maths. but if someone feels the urge to build any device they will learn quickly thanks to the internet which tools/pieces are to be seeked. what do you think?
im sorry to disturb you but i just want to comment my thought. well im not professional on this subject nor have some knowledge about this topic, sorry in advance. but i think the video was talking about how the brain learn new things. hmm.. if its habit of it then one person must know that thing or if you mean habit of learning something new then the brain know that if the person will going to learn it, it will just automatic stop all other thought to make that stuff absorb much faster to the brain to process it quickly.. so now i think they get that shutdowning most of thought will help one to learn something new. (i think)
As I grew up I wasn't going to school, I was a unschooler. While this gave me a hard time learning French grammar, this gave me a whole lot of free time. And as a child that natively spoke French, I somehow didn't even consider not playing playing video-games because they were in English and because of it, I now understand English. And I somehow also ended up learning Computer Programming, which is now my true passion and has always been since I began learning it. Now I understand why it's so much harder for me to learn new programming languages compared to when I was a child and would carelessly just begin learning whatever programming language I would find and master them.
Oh...this is toally true for me. When I am calm and chilled out, I do study well but when My exam is just around the corner, I am in rush and can’t focus on really important things, overthinking.
I do rethink everything, it does make my slower so i need to be in top shape when i try to learn.... AND I AM HAPPY ABOUT THAT! I would be stupid not being happy as in this way i do discover somebody`s mistakes and new things all together.
From what I believe, Learning depends on different methods of thinking in order to understand things, Remember that Learning is related to "Understanding" which means that there are different methods of learning. And yes School is hard to learn because most of the teachers don’t really get to know their students that well and what makes some of them having a difficult time with learning & understanding. I’m sorry if my English is bad, I’m trying my best to explain about my belief and thoughts.
If the only thing you know about a bridge is that you can walk or drive across it to get to the other side you'll likely take a fall one day when a section of bridge is weak or even missing and you never learned to recognize such flaws..
Like Bruce Lee said "empty your mind, be formless, shapless-like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend."
This is weird because I've been told several times that I overthink things, but I learn new things fairly easily. Especially, if the learning material is thorough.
I know this makes complete sense because to learn something you have to be open and receptive to it, you can't force your own understanding onto an unfamiliar topic. Have you ever seen someone at work maybe or a family member that you felt had no common sense? It's not that they have no common sense is that they're trying too hard. I've known about this for quite some time now. Education is not possible if you've already been told or you already believe that there is no mystery left in life, there is nothing new to discover. Unfortunately this happens all too often in the modern world and scientists and religion heads are responsible for it
I try to make each step of my task perfect during work & thus I find it hard and challenging to properly execute my tasks on time & my performance is lower as compared to others . This is despite the fact that I probably have the highest grades thoughout the studies among my whole team.
Me when I learn: Aahhh alrighty I'm ready *3 secs later* Ok I opened the book, i'll reward myself with a youtube video Oh that looks interesting *clicks on next video* Oh wow I didn't know that *another one* Lol *three more* -looks at clock- Wtf two hours? What was i about to do?
This explains why i have such a hard time finding a job. Everywhere i work people give me a week to learn everything when i usually need a minimum of 2 weeks to maybe a month to really get the hang of it and thus they don't want me i after a week anymore and i am stuck in this bad cycle of over thinking. #TheOldSetWasBetter!
It depends on what kind of learning you are talking about. If your goal is short-term memorization, yeah, over-thinking is not beneficial. However, if you want to "learn how to think" and be able to use what you learn, then thinking compared with going through the motions, is extremely valuable. I consider myself a slow learner, and I remember being overwhelmed in college. I got the high-score on the fundamentals of engineering exam when I took it (out of about 90 people that semester, including grad students), and I really didn't even work a single practice problem. So, I think my strategy may take a little more time, but is definitely worth it. If you don't care about understanding how things work, go ahead and memorize to your heart's content; Good luck with that.
I over think everything, but I have always learned things faster than even my teachers since kindergarten, but then again I think really fast allowing me to learn fast.
Some people are willing to except what they are taught, and don't think about it. This doesn't make those people stupid, it just makes them of a more knowledge and procedure based attitude. Overthinkers on the other hand, wish to analyze everything, to understand it more deeply, to come up with their own solution, and are more likely the types to come up with new ideas and challenge the current understanding of things. Both sides have their merits, and benefits humanity as a whole, but we need to understand the strengths and weaknesses of each personality type, and not expect them to change. You could compare it to homebodies and explorers, we couldn't thrive as a species without having both.
For me, it's memorizing new Japanese vocabularies. I take Japanese courses and with all the rules that apply, it gets hard keeping track of everything without doing a lot of revision. With a course every week, I always end up forgetting what I took note that day if I don't frequently look back to what was explained.
well, take an example from my school.. the quick learners are super good at learning the exact material we are supposed to learn. The slow learners are good at getting a much broader understanding of the material. When ppl from these two groups are discussing the material, the quick learners seem rather clueless because they only learned the exact material. And this goes for most things i think. Yes, learning the exact game might be easier for quick learners, but give them a heavy RTS instead, and the slow learners might quickly become the most successful. Don't stop over thinking, its good for learning more!
I think this could be one of those "One possible explanation" situations. There should be a test on more long-term, critical thinking that compares the short term and long term success of the two categories of thinkers. It might show that the difference is not in learning better/faster, but that certain ways of processing makes certain thinkers more apt at different cognitive tasks.
Seems to also favor intuition based learning where thought is not explicitly processed but remains in abstraction rather than concrete memorization and such.
This isn't learning, it is simply memorizing. I'm what you call "overthinker" and I had troubles "learning" in school. especially with science. Some of the stuffs I was taught in the school did not make sense to me, so I always asked questions, some question irked my teachers and I was branded as "problem child" who frequently "disrupted" the class. I was told times and again, to simply "learn" what is being taught, instead of thinking too much about it. But my dad always encouraged me to find the answers to the questions that were bothering me. (He was a physicist) So eventually I would actually get all the answers, and really "learn" about stuffs. I came to realization how much shit was being taught in the school, and students were encouraged to simply "memorize" that shit.
People please beware of trying to draw your own conclusions from a science entertainment channel. Most videos try to garner your interest by posing conclusions that challenge current knowledge/assumptions from recent studies. For any good conclusion of a science experiment the results need to be repeated and validated. So, don't start drawing conclusions to your own life from this especially if you are not used to drawing conclusions from science experiments yourself.
I think science is so awesome, but in school it's always a lot harder for me. The physics involved in my astronomy class at college would have done me in. Instead though I came to class and sat back and just soaked it all in without trying to get too in depth, taking occasional notes of basic concepts, and I studied the same away. All of the physics and details derailed a lot of others in my class, but I did really well, and I attribute it to a lot of prayer (haha but for real) and not getting lost in the complicated specifics.
So this translates to: if you think about too many things while trying to learn, you are going to be inefficient. Also called *concentration*. And: just learn, do stuff - don't think about doing stuff and how to tie the whole world together while you do it - then there's too many possibilities. Gives good exam results, but restricts creativity and autonomous thinking.
Reminded me of this, “You are like a filled tea cup, so full that nothing more can be added. Come back to me when the cup is empty. Come back to me with an empty mind.” ~ Anonymous Zen Master
This seems like a crazily dangerous mindset to have in class. I mean,sure if what you're doing is a rote task like memorizing a sequence of tones,then by all means tone down your thinking. But what about when you're learning Chemistry,am I just supposed to accept every single fact that I'm given and just regurgitate it later. How will I learn to apply what I've learnt If haven't even taken it outside of the classroom context? I'm not arguing with the data but only it's interpretation and validity.Once the study has been replicated several times then i'll be more open to accepting this,but for now..... "More research is needed"
What tasks am I having difficulty with? Getting out of bed in the morning 😌 Being ready after finally getting out of bed in the morning 😓 Struggling to stay awake and energized after finally being ready after finally getting out of bed in the morning 😪 I'm insomniac 😩
I always over analyze everything, and I do take a while to get good at doing something I just learned like how to play a new game, but I learn things like math almost instantly, so I think this may be an oversimplification of speed of learning
math concepts just make sense for me because i'm good at thinking of them like that, I understand the logic behind them, not memorizing the steps for generic problems
at the university i'm very slow to get things understood and finally done, i do software engeneering, so, well, that video finally opened my eyes for my real problem xD
Interesting, but possible food for thought... ...the abstract nature of learning most effectively has a subjective element for sure. I'm trying to pull from my own sensibilities about absorbing difficult topics in biology and chemistry and becoming able to consistently score at the top of the class. No chemistry, less than basic biology in high school. I'm now a scientist. Attitude can dictates so much. Assuming one is able to become a STUDENT (more difficult that most young adults want to give credit) then environment and approach to learning comes into play and is the subject at hand. Why is learning so hard? Is it possible to over-think the task of grasping concepts? My observations about my ability to grasp things is best described differently. An open mind to learning is not automatic, but often essential, nor is being appropriately curious as to how something can be interpreted, or defined. I also think the key to tuning in academically demands a cognitive element in the process of determining what is trying to be conveyed. A final point that some want to downplay, but in my mind is essential to learning is the grade reward. Scoring high on a test is a measure of achievement that I think deserves more recognition and public notice. It can spark to light up another powerful positive learning agent - competition. I like the mentoring nature of these kinds of discussions. Many young adults need and can use this kind of help to improve their lives. Keep up the good work.
Isn't it just very simple? If your brain is free of activities it can do more stuff than if it was busy. It seems to be common sense, but I am glad to find some scientific evidence because I too happen to be overthinking very often. This is all my school's fault for they are trying to teach me something they call skeptic mind, which could be useful to apply on my already-owned knowledge, but tortures me when I try to learn something new.
this is the first d news video i have seen that didn't have massively annoying people, and just down right gear grinding, cringe worthy, extremely cheesy, not funny, "jokes"
-Why Is Learning So Hard? -Because we do it the wrong way. Because we are taught we must avoid making mistakes.Because we use memorisation in the greatest part of it.
When I was in school, I was an average student. The folks that made straight A's had much less stress than me and this is how. They would somehow get a copy of the test (or last year's) and memorize the answers. Throw in some plagiarism and you had life winners!
And that's the reason colege is a nightmare for someone with ADD. I have to know and explain every single step of everything I do in a 50 min test, and that's hard.
"What tasks are you making more difficult for yourself?"
Well apparently fucking everything.
HypernovaGN That WOULD be difficult. Maybe trim it down to just a few objects a day..
The struggle is real :/
Same thoughts here 😧
I love how I have to associate with the blatantly stupid children because I'm so slow that no one wants to do projects of any kind with me .
+NovaGN Me too, I like you.
This reminds me of the time I studied physics at college, most students would just accept and remember what was taught to them, but others would ask a lot of questions. Sure the ones who accepted what they learnt, learnt quicker and got good marks but those who asked questions and over analysed them understood the content much better.
Klee I don't think its a bad thing to over analyse while learning as it helps you to completely understand something inside out.
Rhiza True
I'm neither cuz I tend to fall asleep before class even starts
My problem is I don't accept things from the first attempt, when our class was taught digital fundamentals I didn't accept the concept, because I need to know the subject from the beginning so I found a book named "The Code" which provided clear and reasonable explonation of the topic and everytime we were being taught to new material I robotically remembered the explonations from "The Code". So when I have to learn something I critisize the way we are being taught and run for other sources. I need answers to the questions
-Why we use especially this?
-What are the benefits?
-What other methods exist? And so on.
MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE. Overthinking is also SO draining. What helped me, I believe, is just living in the PRESENT and stop planning everything and judging everything you do. I'm trying to work on GROWTH mindset instead of fixed mindset. Focusing on process instead of final outcome all the time.
Children can't overthink?
When I was 7 I got the achievement "over thinker".
Recon I don't know, I was considered incredibly bright as a child and I had a hard time learning new information.
Recon That's a triple kill
we share something i'm happy i'm not alone x)
but the video says everything... that's the cause that ruined and still ruin my life.. I can't escape this HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
okay now PLEASE MAKE a video about how to stop over thinking =(
Is over thinking like whats going to happen next?
Because I always think 3 steps ahead
Just listen to music or drive around or do something menial until your brain relaxes into a more simple empty zen "rhythm". When your brain falls into that "rhythm" it is pretty hard for it to just snap out if it. Then you should be able to learn more easily. I don't know how it is that you could learn more easily without thinking as much.
Anyway this kind of research no matter how primitive could definitely help us develop more complex A.I. for sophisticated machines that need to learn while actively being used.
Jorge Alejandro Rodríguez You should think about it :P
I think you're over thinking the process of over thinking
Aka how to meditate
be stupid to be smart!
Rakib sdq exactly
Rakib sdq To be old and wise you have to be young and dumb.
Rakib sdq No there is a common misconception that not thinking is bad but evidence suggests it can actually foster neuroplasticity, meditation and mindfulness are predicated on not thinking and they are both linked to positive developments in the brain.
Rakib sdq Somewhat. It's perspective really. Be stupid as in looking stupid via asking questions that everyone apparently understood/accepted, then ok. If be stupid as in not understanding concepts and refusing the learn them, then no.
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Progress came from overthinkers, new ideas came from them too, looks like fast learners can only use and reproduce what they learn, and would never make a step with it... because they never think about it really
with other words if there was no overthinkers... the rest wouldn't have any material to learn
What if I fall into neither category? Should I just kms?
AFFE NOWU yes
wtf.. overthinking kills your sleep and you are lazy all the day.. so you are less productive and your life become worst.. the balance between thinking and actions this what makes things better.. AND WHEN IT'S TIME TO SLEEP THEN SLEEP AND TURN OFF THIS FUCKING THINKING MECANISM DAAAAMN
"Progress came from overthinkers, new ideas came from them too"
who said that?
which research paper?
It's hard to learn things you're not interested in. But when it's something you passionate about you learn everything instantly.
America's school system is terrible, they focus on shoveling in as much info as possible and forcing them into standardized tests rather than inspiring the students making them WANT to learn. School needs to be interesting. Having ADD my whole life teachers always blamed me for being lazy, but it was their boring ass methods of teaching that lead to my downfall. It's hard to learn something you're not interested in when you have ADD especially when lazy teachers do nothing but hand you text books.
good to know that American kids face the exact same issues as Asians. In fact I remember commenting something similar to this on a video abt why there are no technological innovations in Asia.
@@hackman-hackman I am a filipino so am I an asian or not?
School always been broeding I’m always been lazy to do my homework but lucky I pass 7th grade I’m a 8th graders
Hey its been 5 years and school is the same.
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Learning isn't hard, school is. There's a difference.
School isn't about learning.
S2totalwarfan Grades
S2totalwarfan The government giving you mind control drugs. I know it sounds crazy but look up agenda 21 and the FEMA camps.
I wouldn't doubt it.
DarthVaizard That's just the mind control drugs talking.
Why is learning SOO Hard?
Answer: Because it's BORING making someone learn something they don't want to learn. Duh. I don't need a scientist to tell me this.
Example: People who LOVE to play sports make time to play and get better; people who watch TV Shows like Game of Thrones remember all the characters name REALLY fast after 1 season; people who like a SPECIFIC subject (example) Art, they get REALLY good after a few years of drawing; people who read manga/watch anime etc.
Put in short: If the person likes the topic/subject the person will GLADLY learn things easier and be more into it, to take extra steps to learning it more and FASTER.
Absolutely!
Telling an over-thinker not to think so much is a problem. Because then you start over-thinking about not-thinking. I know I get in my own way so much right now but I can't turn it off.
Learning isn't hard when you totally and fully love the information you're seeking. Make education available when people want it. It's way more efficient and more pleasant for the students and the teachers.
Anybody with ADD could have told them this
Nah they're too busy talking shit.
lalamelol Correlation not causation. People that learn slower have to think more while doing it. People who learn fast do not have to think as much while doing it, and have systems in place for learning efficiently.
Techno Falcon One could say the same for your argument. And from your comment, I don't think you understand ADD at all.
I have ADD and I learn new things faster than anybody I've ever met. However, I don't really think all that much about what I'm doing. Most of my conscious thought is pure reflection, introspection. When I'm doing things I just do it on instinct. The moment someone makes me think about what I'm doing I can't do it anymore. Like I tell people... "I don't know ANYTHING... I just DO things and it works."
Lord Maliko I completely agree. I have ADD and when I was in school I would go on instinct when doing algebra, geometry, and trig. I would end up with the correct answer but when asked what process I used to find the answer and to do it again explaining the steps i would not be able to do it because id be worrying to much about each step. This usually ended up with me being accused of cheating.
I remember this girl in college and she was always doing much better than me any my friend in a class about computer networking. We knew she knew absolutely nothing about networking in the real world. Me and my friend knew lots various real world configurations. We discovered it was helpful to forget about what we already knew and just learn the data as a string of meaningless text like she saw it. This video actually blew me away because it describes this phenomenon perfectly. I had no idea it was an actual thing.
That explain why I learn best from the TV. My mind is mostly blank.
but overthinking feels so natural !
painful but natural
I was born with ADHD. That kind of explains why I'm probably an over-thinker. I always try to go too much in depth with any concept to better visualize how a problem first got apprehended or understood. As much as I think it's useful to understand every little thing that makes up a subject, it can really be a hindrance to the process of learning. In the long-run, at least one can get a better understanding of whatever they are learning by analyzing every aspect and going into details.
Sometimes, just doing it is better than thinking about it.
Isn't it more a question about actually learning something, in contrast to memorizing?
I would argue that in order to actually learn something and use that knowledge productively. You have to integrate it. And put it into context.
Serah Wint Good point. I think this relates more to learning to do a task than gaining understanding of a subject. We need a different approach for the theory side of things than we do the practical side.
Because the world is not fair! There are some talents that you can never beat no matter how hard you are learning, just accept the fact that you are an average person!
Leaning and school are very different .
Overthinking is not necessarily bad, I think it makes you more critical towards everything, and when you are second guessing everything it makes you a much more intellectual person. But I suppose society doesn't want that kind of person, people who don't ask questions are much easier to control. :)
I know i am a slow learner and now i need to stop overthinking while learning. then i will apply this for my classes thanks.
Thinking is the main part of the learning process!
Ohhh god.
Okay two things, add makes a kind of artificial over thinking effect, especially in kids. I recall getting up in the middle of 3rd grade class in some special gifted school while the teacher was talking just to get a National Geographic or anatomy book because the teacher was boring me. I didn't get straight A's, though I did get the school's highest honor because good teachers recognize intellect even if it's bad at learning.
Second thing is that smarter brains don't simply accept knowledge at face value. They seek to understand, even to the point of missing simple facts and principles. This is why they even have gifted schools and classes!
***** If i don't over analyze things, i forget them very quickly. There are things that seem not to make sense and leaving those questions whithout answers makes me feel that i didn't learn anything.I need to understand things, otherwise learning is unpleasing to me
***** The problem is that it's impossible to simply stop. It's like telling a person that's sad to be happy.
I got tested for special ed because I would respond so slow. Part of it was I was just double checking things and questioning myself. I got OK grades and dropped out in 5th grade. When I went t college I often was able to explain things the best because I took the time to reason everything out. I took electrical engineering and for every explanation I'd take it down to the quantum physics level and follow it through function. I had ONE teacher who taught this way, I was super excited, unfortunately we got off to a bad start and we never got along.
Its not about over thinking things, I think, its about stressing about learning. Things aren't hard, they're just different, you've gotta figure out how to make them similar. Put the dots closer together so you're not making such big leaps from concept to concept. Talk to yourself in your head like your explaining something to a child, "this and then this and then this, see its not so hard, good job!", (its in your head, nobody can hear you, don't worry).
skykid I thought every test question was a trick question and would over analyze every question,. I needed to know why math equations worked. I always asked why about everything; and tried to figure out the reason behind every little thing we were supposed to learn. Thus I was a very slow learner, average/poor on tests and I thought I was a moron; but I seemed to know so much stuff. They even had me tested several times for I.Q. and learning disabilities. With a tested I.Q. of 145 & high reasoning abilities; The problem was I over-thought everything. thankfully the counselor recognized the problem and put me in higher learning and research classes.
shadfurman This is exactly my problem. I analyze things too much. I struggle finding a job because of this.
Children don't have as many bad experiences, regrets, and mistakes as grown up do. Those experiences tend to interfere with learning. Pride and responsibilities makes it even harder. Basically it is comfort zones that makes it hard to learn.
Children appear to learn faster because they are not already full of contradicting facts in their heads whereas adults have to censor out everything they have learned previously (especially if it contradicts what they're about to learn) in order to learn something new. I overthink on certain topics either because the teacher is poor at teaching or that the topic is complex.
The advice of just "let it happen and stop overthinking" is cute but not very helpful. Telling someone not to overthink is telling them to think about not thinking. Good luck with that. Lol
+soonny002 *" Children appear to learn faster because they are not already full of contradicting facts in their heads whereas adults have to censor out everything they have learned previously (especially if it contradicts what they're about to learn) in order to learn something new. "* I like the way you worded that.
+soonny002 You're overthinking!
I've experienced this ,,, strict teachers pressure me to learn and nothing sticks ,,,, whereas a laid back teacher makes me learn my work very well
The best way to learn is to let understanding come with practice.
i think over thinking is good because if you don't find answer that's mean it wrong or maybe you can find something new in it
over thinking is help me to learn new things batter and it also give more general knowledge
The best way I've found to go about this is to just pay attention while any teaching/instructing/reading is happening and then process it all afterward or in a break and only to solidify what it is that you actally just were told/read.
The only time when I'm not overthinking is when I'm DRUNK.
This makes sense. If I'm being shown something new I don't just watch the entire process and then try doing it. I think out each step, different approaches, and possible problems all along the way. It takes me longer to get it but then when I do it it's done well right from the start.
i'm a slow learner and yes i guess i overthink everything trying to think if my solution makes sense, can support itself, can be supported without any major or even minor conflicts, even the support is thoroughly thought of and the support before it and so on until such time that i don't know how to solve it any longer. i'll try to depressurize my remaining brainpower. Keep up the Good Work.
At the risk of learning more slowly and overthinking, I'll keep my critical faculties active, thank you very much!
No, I think this is only true for things that are learned into the prefrontal cortex which learns by habit, not thought. But ease of replication through habit does not mean understanding, which is another subset of what it means to learn.
+Golden Rockefeller
That's a good hunch. Maybe this video doesn't disambiguate (emphatically enough) between "learning about something" vs "learning how to do something". I think the latter is what the video is describing; she does say "learn a task" in key places.
I mean I guess one could say "how to argue about a subject" or "synthesize ideas across subjects" is a "how to do something" involving and benefiting from more frontal cortex stuff even if not purely.
I also think the process of understanding greatly benefits from having learned solid intuition/habit related to that subject, so there's still value to not overthinking at least at SOME stages.
I'm imagining this in terms of how mathematicians must have a deep intuition from repeated and patterned solving of problems so they can analyze larger patterns which are comprised of those many small and repetitive tasks, instead of being stuck philosophizing about basic arithmetic.
Yes. I can learn a million different things superficially like a moron or I can actually integrate some of it into myself and shape myself into a brilliant person. Unlike these researchers who can't make that connection. No, smart people are standing in their own way. Of what? Becoming sheep?
"What ways are you stunting your growth and holding back your success?" Wtf kind of horrific shit is that? Why kind of buzzfeed moron writes this?
+rhoharane i don't know if that's really the subject but it seems to me that to learn quickly is related to both motivation and association. for example if someone literally links maths with the understanding of the universe they won't grok anything at practical maths. but if someone feels the urge to build any device they will learn quickly thanks to the internet which tools/pieces are to be seeked. what do you think?
im sorry to disturb you but i just want to comment my thought. well im not professional on this subject nor have some knowledge about this topic, sorry in advance.
but i think the video was talking about how the brain learn new things.
hmm.. if its habit of it then one person must know that thing or if you mean habit of learning something new then the brain know that if the person will going to learn it, it will just automatic stop all other thought to make that stuff absorb much faster to the brain to process it quickly..
so now i think they get that shutdowning most of thought will help one to learn something new.
(i think)
As I grew up I wasn't going to school, I was a unschooler.
While this gave me a hard time learning French grammar, this gave me a whole lot of free time.
And as a child that natively spoke French, I somehow didn't even consider not playing playing video-games because they were in English and because of it, I now understand English.
And I somehow also ended up learning Computer Programming, which is now my true passion and has always been since I began learning it.
Now I understand why it's so much harder for me to learn new programming languages compared to when I was a child and would carelessly just begin learning whatever programming language I would find and master them.
Oh...this is toally true for me. When I am calm and chilled out, I do study well but when My exam is just around the corner, I am in rush and can’t focus on really important things, overthinking.
Wrong conclusion. Higher brain activity is when the brain tries to learn it. Low activity is because it has already learnt it..
I over thought this whole video before I said "screw it" and watched it again, only listening this time. Now it makes sense.
I do rethink everything, it does make my slower so i need to be in top shape when i try to learn.... AND I AM HAPPY ABOUT THAT! I would be stupid not being happy as in this way i do discover somebody`s mistakes and new things all together.
Learning what you like is easy, learning things which are not interesting to you is hard.
i must agree i do think about what to think on a task. Cheers for this information, when I become successful I will remember this video.
From what I believe, Learning depends on different methods of thinking in order to understand things, Remember that Learning is related to "Understanding" which means that there are different methods of learning. And yes School is hard to learn because most of the teachers don’t really get to know their students that well and what makes some of them having a difficult time with learning & understanding.
I’m sorry if my English is bad, I’m trying my best to explain about my belief and thoughts.
If the only thing you know about a bridge is that you can walk or drive across it to get to the other side you'll likely take a fall one day when a section of bridge is weak or even missing and you never learned to recognize such flaws..
This video hits home with me!
*Thinking is not the same thing as learning.*
I've always thought of myself as a thinker. Good to know this...
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Like Bruce Lee said "empty your mind, be formless, shapless-like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend."
Every time I do an essay in an exam I analyse every idea and paragraph to make sure it's made of good quality, thanks why it takes forever to do.
This is weird because I've been told several times that I overthink things, but I learn new things fairly easily. Especially, if the learning material is thorough.
I know this makes complete sense because to learn something you have to be open and receptive to it, you can't force your own understanding onto an unfamiliar topic. Have you ever seen someone at work maybe or a family member that you felt had no common sense? It's not that they have no common sense is that they're trying too hard. I've known about this for quite some time now. Education is not possible if you've already been told or you already believe that there is no mystery left in life, there is nothing new to discover. Unfortunately this happens all too often in the modern world and scientists and religion heads are responsible for it
Pythagoras211 how exactly do scientists make people less open to new ideas? that is the core idea behind science.
Pythagoras211 This is why fluid Intelligence is such a rare commodity among adults those who possess it are usually the game changers.
I try to make each step of my task perfect during work & thus I find it hard and challenging to properly execute my tasks on time & my performance is lower as compared to others . This is despite the fact that I probably have the highest grades thoughout the studies among my whole team.
This literally makes PERFECT SENSE
Me when I learn:
Aahhh alrighty I'm ready
*3 secs later*
Ok I opened the book, i'll reward myself with a youtube video
Oh that looks interesting
*clicks on next video*
Oh wow I didn't know that
*another one*
Lol
*three more*
-looks at clock-
Wtf two hours? What was i about to do?
Same here
This explains why i have such a hard time finding a job. Everywhere i work people give me a week to learn everything when i usually need a minimum of 2 weeks to maybe a month to really get the hang of it and thus they don't want me i after a week anymore and i am stuck in this bad cycle of over thinking.
#TheOldSetWasBetter!
i like this host. not only is she not annoying, she's actually good...
which is more than I can say for some others out there...
It depends on what kind of learning you are talking about. If your goal is short-term memorization, yeah, over-thinking is not beneficial. However, if you want to "learn how to think" and be able to use what you learn, then thinking compared with going through the motions, is extremely valuable. I consider myself a slow learner, and I remember being overwhelmed in college. I got the high-score on the fundamentals of engineering exam when I took it (out of about 90 people that semester, including grad students), and I really didn't even work a single practice problem. So, I think my strategy may take a little more time, but is definitely worth it. If you don't care about understanding how things work, go ahead and memorize to your heart's content; Good luck with that.
Moral of the story: Stop thinking and you are ready to go :S
I over think everything, but I have always learned things faster than even my teachers since kindergarten, but then again I think really fast allowing me to learn fast.
Some people are willing to except what they are taught, and don't think about it. This doesn't make those people stupid, it just makes them of a more knowledge and procedure based attitude.
Overthinkers on the other hand, wish to analyze everything, to understand it more deeply, to come up with their own solution, and are more likely the types to come up with new ideas and challenge the current understanding of things.
Both sides have their merits, and benefits humanity as a whole, but we need to understand the strengths and weaknesses of each personality type, and not expect them to change.
You could compare it to homebodies and explorers, we couldn't thrive as a species without having both.
For me, it's memorizing new Japanese vocabularies. I take Japanese courses and with all the rules that apply, it gets hard keeping track of everything without doing a lot of revision. With a course every week, I always end up forgetting what I took note that day if I don't frequently look back to what was explained.
1) Study everything and do not ask questions; OR
2) Vice versa
P.s everything has its Pros and Cons!
the less brainactivity a task costs, the more you mastered it. that's so logical and already known for 10-20 years.
Learning can only be hard when you don't know how to do stuff correctly, but when you do then you would find learning easy and to do well in them
This happens to me the most when I'm trying to talk to someone I'm not very close with. I get so nervous and overthink my words!
well, take an example from my school.. the quick learners are super good at learning the exact material we are supposed to learn. The slow learners are good at getting a much broader understanding of the material. When ppl from these two groups are discussing the material, the quick learners seem rather clueless because they only learned the exact material. And this goes for most things i think. Yes, learning the exact game might be easier for quick learners, but give them a heavy RTS instead, and the slow learners might quickly become the most successful.
Don't stop over thinking, its good for learning more!
*The hardest thing for me in school is algebra NOT Pre algebra but Real Life Use Algebra!!!*
To stop overthinking, read the comments while watching the video, it’s kind of weird but I remember everything she said...
I think this could be one of those "One possible explanation" situations. There should be a test on more long-term, critical thinking that compares the short term and long term success of the two categories of thinkers. It might show that the difference is not in learning better/faster, but that certain ways of processing makes certain thinkers more apt at different cognitive tasks.
From what ive learned ur basically right.
The answer to your question is everything
Seems to also favor intuition based learning where thought is not explicitly processed but remains in abstraction rather than concrete memorization and such.
This isn't learning, it is simply memorizing. I'm what you call "overthinker" and I had troubles "learning" in school. especially with science. Some of the stuffs I was taught in the school did not make sense to me, so I always asked questions, some question irked my teachers and I was branded as "problem child" who frequently "disrupted" the class. I was told times and again, to simply "learn" what is being taught, instead of thinking too much about it.
But my dad always encouraged me to find the answers to the questions that were bothering me. (He was a physicist) So eventually I would actually get all the answers, and really "learn" about stuffs. I came to realization how much shit was being taught in the school, and students were encouraged to simply "memorize" that shit.
People please beware of trying to draw your own conclusions from a science entertainment channel. Most videos try to garner your interest by posing conclusions that challenge current knowledge/assumptions from recent studies. For any good conclusion of a science experiment the results need to be repeated and validated. So, don't start drawing conclusions to your own life from this especially if you are not used to drawing conclusions from science experiments yourself.
school was very hard
Learning isn't hard if you are learning about things you actually enjoy. Being forced to learn something you have no interest in will always be hard.
I think science is so awesome, but in school it's always a lot harder for me. The physics involved in my astronomy class at college would have done me in. Instead though I came to class and sat back and just soaked it all in without trying to get too in depth, taking occasional notes of basic concepts, and I studied the same away. All of the physics and details derailed a lot of others in my class, but I did really well, and I attribute it to a lot of prayer (haha but for real) and not getting lost in the complicated specifics.
So this translates to: if you think about too many things while trying to learn, you are going to be inefficient. Also called *concentration*. And: just learn, do stuff - don't think about doing stuff and how to tie the whole world together while you do it - then there's too many possibilities. Gives good exam results, but restricts creativity and autonomous thinking.
Reminded me of this, “You are like a filled tea cup, so full that nothing more can be added. Come back to me when the cup is empty. Come back to me with an empty mind.” ~ Anonymous Zen Master
This seems like a crazily dangerous mindset to have in class.
I mean,sure if what you're doing is a rote task like memorizing a sequence of tones,then by all means tone down your thinking.
But what about when you're learning Chemistry,am I just supposed to accept every single fact that I'm given and just regurgitate it later.
How will I learn to apply what I've learnt If haven't even taken it outside of the classroom context?
I'm not arguing with the data but only it's interpretation and validity.Once the study has been replicated several times then i'll be more open to accepting this,but for now.....
"More research is needed"
Nothing good happens when someone else is telling you "Just let it happen!".
What tasks am I having difficulty with? Getting out of bed in the morning 😌
Being ready after finally getting out of bed in the morning 😓
Struggling to stay awake and energized after finally being ready after finally getting out of bed in the morning 😪
I'm insomniac 😩
I always over analyze everything, and I do take a while to get good at doing something I just learned like how to play a new game, but I learn things like math almost instantly, so I think this may be an oversimplification of speed of learning
math concepts just make sense for me because i'm good at thinking of them like that, I understand the logic behind them, not memorizing the steps for generic problems
LOVE the new format!
at the university i'm very slow to get things understood and finally done, i do software engeneering, so, well, that video finally opened my eyes for my real problem xD
1:46 Dayum.
What
Interesting, but possible food for thought...
...the abstract nature of learning most effectively has a subjective element for sure. I'm trying to pull from my own sensibilities about absorbing difficult topics in biology and chemistry and becoming able to consistently score at the top of the class. No chemistry, less than basic biology in high school. I'm now a scientist.
Attitude can dictates so much. Assuming one is able to become a STUDENT (more difficult that most young adults want to give credit) then environment and approach to learning comes into play and is the subject at hand. Why is learning so hard? Is it possible to over-think the task of grasping concepts? My observations about my ability to grasp things is best described differently. An open mind to learning is not automatic, but often essential, nor is being appropriately curious as to how something can be interpreted, or defined. I also think the key to tuning in academically demands a cognitive element in the process of determining what is trying to be conveyed. A final point that some want to downplay, but in my mind is essential to learning is the grade reward. Scoring high on a test is a measure of achievement that I think deserves more recognition and public notice. It can spark to light up another powerful positive learning agent - competition.
I like the mentoring nature of these kinds of discussions. Many young adults need and can use this kind of help to improve their lives. Keep up the good work.
Isn't it just very simple? If your brain is free of activities it can do more stuff than if it was busy. It seems to be common sense, but I am glad to find some scientific evidence because I too happen to be overthinking very often. This is all my school's fault for they are trying to teach me something they call skeptic mind, which could be useful to apply on my already-owned knowledge, but tortures me when I try to learn something new.
I'm just like you.
I over think and over analyze everything expect for those short moments of the day when I just do without paying much attention.
*YAY! Crystal's back!*
I felt like that was the most honest self understand laugh I've ever heard
this is the first d news video i have seen that didn't have massively annoying people, and just down right gear grinding, cringe worthy, extremely cheesy, not funny, "jokes"
So what can I do to NOT overthink, because that is my whole major trait that is sometimes an asset but more than often it's a huge obstacle!
-Why Is Learning So Hard?
-Because we do it the wrong way. Because we are taught we must avoid making mistakes.Because we use memorisation in the greatest part of it.
I was told by my teachers I always overthink it and make it harder for myself
As both a tutor and someone with ADD, I can attest to this.
I over thunk about number theory calculus 3 and linear algebra so much. No wonder why I'm having a hard time learning them lol.
When I was in school, I was an average student. The folks that made straight A's had much less stress than me and this is how. They would somehow get a copy of the test (or last year's) and memorize the answers. Throw in some plagiarism and you had life winners!
And that's the reason colege is a nightmare for someone with ADD. I have to know and explain every single step of everything I do in a 50 min test, and that's hard.
But it really depends on what is being learned. Is it a physical task. Mental task? Etc.
its hard because its boring, if im interested in something it wouldnt be that hard for me to learn
It all makes sense now!