Man it depends on which I like more. I have this little leather holder for two speed loaders that I just add to my belt and I'm ready to go. Also, I don't have an issue with lining up the speed loaders: it lines right up with my 5 shot Ruger LCR 357 and drops the bullets right in. Easy every time, including my first try. Nothing aftermarket necessary. But otherwise, dropping a speed strip in your pocket is more viable in terms of comfort and space when speed loaders prove to be too bulky. But right now I'm working on a new way to speed load, my own invention... kind-of. Get a desert eagle mag of 357 and trim the wire just enough to be able to fit 10 rounds into it. Now you have a single mag of 10 rounds of 357 that you just "thumb" over into your revolver.
Speed loaders were originally used mostly by police who usually carried full size revolvers. I carried a Model 19 and they worked fine. When I later tried the ones for five shot revolvers on my model 36 I found the same problem as shown in the video. Speed strips aren't really "speedy" unless you practice a lot, but they are an easy way to carry extra rounds with very little bulk.
Big difference between Speedloaders and Speed Strips! I have the HKS-36 Speedloaders, that I've had for over 40 years. Speed strips, on the other hand rarely last more than a few years before they become brittle. Strips are handier, but Speedloaders will definitely last longer. Just my opinion.
I carry my 605 loaded with. 357 magnum, but I keep 38 special in my hks speedloaders. I find that the shorter 38 cartridges loads much easier and faster
I've carried a couple of these speed loaders every day for years, never once had one pop open on me. I dont think you can go wrong with either choice as long as you practice with what you choose to go with.
FYI even though you have a 5 shot revolver, get a 6 shot speed strip so you have a better grip on it. Also, start with the far end then work your way back, so much easier
I agree. Speed loaders can spill rounds which doesn't help. The fastest way is to use moon clips because those just drop in and rounds are locked into the clip, however , you have to route the cylinder to accomodate the depth of the moon clip. But even after you route your cylinder you can still load with quick strips or speed loaders anyway
keep the speed strips loaded and on you every time you're carrying the weapon. Remember you don't have to fully load it to shoot it again, sometimes it's better to load two, make those two shots count, then load the rest.
Hi Ari, I carry speed strips in a little phone pouch. Waliworld has some smaller ones for older flip phones. These fit perfectly for 3 357 speed strips. There are some pouches for speed loaders out there but they come bulky. Just saying.
I started my career with loops and graduated to dump pouches... then came speed strips to fit the dump pouches and finally speed loaders. In uniform there is no issue with speed loaders and if carried in a jacket pocket the speed loader is hardly noticeable. Speed loaders are faster than speed strips. Speed strips are best for concealed carry as they lay flat in your pocket. They are also easier to hold on to than a handful of rounds when attempting to load under pressure and cover. Practice with both, carry a speed strip and a few speed loaders in the glove box or night stand. The "average gun fight" is maybe three rounds and that leaves your five shot almost empty, it's nice to have a reload available near by.
Thanks for the review. I just purchased this gun and I think I’ll buy the speed strips. I’ve heard that this is a difficult gun to use speed loaders with specially with the original grips. But I think the strips would be more comfortable in the pocket than the other loader.
Great video i have just purchased a revolver so your advice on speed strips was very helpful 👍 GOD BLESS YOU AND STAY SAFE IN THESE TROUBLED TIMES 🙋♂️🇬🇧
There is a special pouch made for carrying two loaded speed-loaders and this is the only safe way for carrying them. Also, being able to effectively use a speed-loader in the field and under pressure calls for a hell of a lot of drill, so much so that it becomes totally reflexive. No thinking. It's okay to carry the rubber strip loader in a pocket, but the same drill requirement applies for using it. Hours of eyes-closed practice until no thinking is required.
I've used the speed strips for carry, and speed loaders for the range. I like the speed loaders better, but never found a convenient way to carry them. I've been using an old S&W Model 36, which has seen better days. I'm seriously considering the Taurus 605, so thank you for doing this whole series on your revolver. Greatly appreciated.
You bet! I'm uploading a new video today with the 605 at the range. Just got back and I'm editing it now. Check it out. I'll put a detailed written summary in the video description.
Zabieru McCloud you can. Look at my long ass comment above this on the main comment section. It will work, you just can't put the rounds all the way in. Stick the tips in, unlock and giggle it a little. As long as you're pointing downward which I'm sure most people would, they will fall into place. I'm thinking of doing a video showing this. Also, if necessary, spin the cylinder with your left hand thumb while you're giggling.
Agreed. Technique is key. I noticed that instead of shoving the rounds in before release like he does in this video, I will actually just put the bullet itself into the cylinder, release, and let the rounds “fall” in. Much faster and no chance of snagging.
DEF easier to run through much more ammo w/ my auto's. I love my revolvers for the simplicity of them, and the J frame with Bobbed hammer is just so tough and concealable. Been fortunate to acquire a bunch of Taurus Tuff and dependable little J's. Currently have 4 and they are my favorite. 3 - M85's and a M605 I bobbed the hammer spur and use the most. Some have had bad luck and bitch but I can trust my life with them. Plus.. I HATE picking up brass around home. I'm slowly cutting loose of my semi-autos.
Carried a revolver for 13 years in patrol in L.A. When you only had six in the cylinder you knew not to spray and pray. We took our time quickly and hit
@@terrycoker4769: Shortly after NYPD switched from revolvers to automatics the stories of 'spraying' with zero hits started appearing -- and it hasn't improved much since. You are absolutely right about more effective use of the six-shot revolver being based on conscious awareness of its ammo limitation.
Great video. I have both. I agree with your choice. I only use the speed loader at the range. Both definately have their advantages n a firefight though.
I've carried the speed strips for better than 20 yrs. One can become very proficient and can reload almost as fast as w/ a speed loader. The quick strip is easier to conceal but they will crack w\ time and use.
I don't carry anymore but in the mid 90s my favorite carry gun was a J frame that i loaded with 158 grain lead hollow points backed up by two speedstrips loaded with same. This was the most convenient carry option for me at that time. I understand these days their are a lot of super compact 9mm and 380 options but the J frame with speedstrips is still a good carry option in my book
Honestly I am a first time gun buyer and I just recently got a Ruger 357 magnum, i also bought a speed loader for it. It's a safariland speedloader, it is all plastic but it feels well made for 12 dollars.. in fact so well made i bought 4 more of them cause i like them so much
I have found using speed loader for my 686 to be very quick yet I’m limited on carrying. Seeing the strip I could easily put 3-5 in my back pockets and I would be able to have ample probably too much however very convenient. Thank you looks like I’m investing in strips for both my 686 and colt Cobra. Excellent review
I’m getting a Taurus 605 in a couple days, my first snub nose revolver. I’ve been watching all the videos you’ve made on yours and found them very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to upload them.
did you ever get around to buying that 605? and I also was wondering what kind of an experience have you had with it, if you did buy one? I'd love to hear about it.
Just read an article by someone (not me) who added a 3rd option and that was to carry a .357 magnum magazine. It's flat and the magnum research ones carry 9 rds and go for 40-50 bucks (more expensive yes). Slip it in the pocket or get a kydex mag holder and when the time comes eject the rounds into the cylinder with your thumb as needed.
I do the same with my Charter Arms Pitbull 9mm, 40 S&W and 45 ACP revolvers.. 9mm has around the same ballistics as the 38+P at almost half the cost. No moon clips needed. Ejects like a regular revolver. A great innovation for plinking with cheap ammo.
I’d seen the strips, but hadn’t caught the ‘load two at a time’. That makes a difference!! I’ve got 4 speed loaders, and they are a bit awkward, and they print bigger in the pocket. I’ll have to try the strips. Thanks.
Just watched your video. Just bought a Charter Arms Magpug in .357 and considering carrying as ankle holster. Very old school, but I'm 67 years old and carried one (snubbie) in Vietnam that way. Speed strips look to me a more concealable way to carry 2 full loads plus load in pistol. If I need more than 15 rounds, I need to get out of where I'm at.
If I was in a fast-moving life or death situation -the speed strips would be easier, faster and simpler to retrieve and use. In a 5-shot revolver you could open the cylinder, dump empties -and strip off two rounds , close and keep squeezing quickly until they cycle around and go off. Those one or two shots could save your life -over wasting more time, by trying to load all 5 ( or 6, with a six-shooter ).
One thing you failed to mention is "Training",it take about 3000 repetitions before something becomes muscle memory,throw a stressful event into the mix especially with a speed strip and you can imagine what will happen.
I believe the speed strip is definitely the way to go. Suggestion: a speed strip with more holes than the gun you use, will make the strips even easier to use, because it provides more surface to hold on to. I use a six round speed strip for my Smith and Wesson 442, even though it's a 5 shot revolver. Sometimes I carry a Rock Island Armory m 206, which is a six shot revolver, and can use the same speed strips for either gun. But, I wish I'd gotten speed strips with even more rounds capacity. I've been carrying outside the waistband at about 2 or 3 o'clock, and the revolvers conceal well. Naturally, the smaller one conceals better.
That 125 grain Remington semi-jacket hollow point in 357 was used by KSP in the revolver years. It separated itself from the other loads as top notch. 1 shot stoppages in the K5 zone.
Ari, as you found, and others have noted, the speed strips are easier to use fairly fast without much practice, and they are a little less bulky. With significant practice (which is a really good idea for any carry gun, by the way), the speed loaders end up being much faster overall for combat reloads in a small frame revolver. With a couple of hours of practice with the HKS speed loaders, I got to the point I could do it very quickly with my eyes closed, something you may not be able to do with the speed strips. I keep the speed loaders in a cargo pocket in my pants or shorts. I also do regular mirror drills with snap caps to ensure I can draw the gun from concealment easily and reload quickly and smoothly. Just a thought, YMMV.
I've used speedloaders with Taurus' medium-frame (6-shot and 7-shot) revolvers, and they work great. However, they don't work as well with their small frame revolvers, since they catch on the grip as you mentioned. I've never tried Speedstrips.
One more thing. Speed loaders will not work with the Taurus 85 or 605 unless you modify the grips or change to different grips. The thick rubber of the original grips gets in the way of the speedloaders. Good shooting.
I prefer the strips nowadays, but with these grips and other guns with grip issues and speedloaders, they won't fit all the way in, but I stick the tips of the rounds in the chambers and just push them in slightly and turn the lock and giggle it a little and they will all fall in. It has worked for me every time, but you HAVE to giggle it and let them fall into place before you pull the loader away from the cylinder. It will work with the stock grips or any other kind you can think of. This will work with many other types of revolvers as well. Just thought I'd throw that out there in case anyone has never tried it. It is all kind of tight once you insert the ends of the rounds, but that's all you need. Just make sure when you turn it, giggle it and let them fall. Once the tips are in, they have nowhere else to go except into the chambers. Takes some getting used to, but it works. Not as easy as with other grips, but with my 605,i used the loaders quite a few times with the stock grips and it works. However, I still prefer the strips now anyways. I always carry 6 rounds in it even with my 5 shot Smith or Taurus because I carry 2-4 strips and it just gives you an extra round per strip in case you should ever need it. It doesn't take up any more room in your pocket with that extra round in it, and you may as well have the extra round(s).
Add the Hogue wood 1 piece grips to the list of not speed loader friendly. They cost too much for me to modify IMHO. More excuses to buy another revolver that they can work on. Gun Guy logic.
I had to reload my service revolver in a gunfight w/armed robbers in ‘74 using a speed loader. If you carry a revolver get a speed loader and practice, it will save your life. In retirement I keep a couple of speedloaders in the car & carry a speedstrip in my pants pocket.
Jose Rosado Good luck & stay safe. If you carry a revolver on duty have at least an extra 50 rounds on hand. I learned my lesson in 1974 when I ran out of ammo after firing 12 rounds in a gunfight.
Jose Rosado Good choice but be sure to have enough spare ammo on hand for a fight that may or may not be coming. Even in retirement I keep spare rounds in my car and at least one reload on my person.
While I prefer the HKS type speedloader when it has proper clearance from any grip, I do see a safety factor in use of the speed strips. When the rounds are inserted in the individual strip, the primers are covered and rendered safe from any pointed object (keys) impacting an exposed primer and setting it off in the pocket (or purse). The HKS speedloaders usually aren't carried in a pocket, but in a case on the belt, which also keeps them from contact with sundry objects and detonating. However, the speed strips will carry flat in any pocket without the need for a special case or holster.
I always carry one of each. Speed loaders are faster but they can jam and not release the cartridges. Speed strips are certain. Quick is good if it works and they usually do but if it fails you have a problem.
I have both, and both are fine, but I prefer strips now. They will work with ANY gun that is the caliber they are made for. Loaders are 10 bucks for 1 loader and the strips are 10 bucks for 2 of them. I like that the strips are flat which fit better into my pockets. Also, the loaders only hold however many it's designed to hold. 5 shot for a 5 shot, 6 for 6 shot, 7 for 7 shot, et cetera. The strips I got are 6 shot strips. I only carried 5 rounds in them because my carry guns are 5 shot. Then one day it dawned on me that I might as well put 6 rounds in it because it takes up no more room in my pocket and since I carry 2-4 at a time, that's 2-4 extra rounds just in case. Probably will never need it, but we don't carry guns because it'll never be needed, we carry because it is a possibility, so why not have the extra round? They may make 5 round or 7 round strips, but I only saw 6 shot at the store. I wouldn't even buy a 5 shot one now because unlike loaders, you can use a 6 or 7 shot strip with a 5 shot gun, but you can only use a 5 shot loader with a 5 shot gun. The strips take about a second longer to load too, so it's not a drastic difference. For anyone who doesn't know that reads this (because I did not know before I bought them) you load 2 rounds at a time. I prefer them greatly. Now, as far as loaders go, many people have problems loading them into a gun with certain grips. I have found that if you just put in the tips (no pun intended) and unlock it, give it a giggle and they will fall in. You don't have to put the rounds all the way into the cylinder while they are in the loader to load it. It takes a little getting used to, but my grips on my 605 (magna style grips) make it like this. I just line up the rounds, put the ends of them in, push it in a tiny bit (about as far as they can fit) unlock, giggle it BEFORE YOU REMO THE LOADER and they just fall into place. If the tips are in and you unlock it while the rounds are pointing down, they have nowhere to go except into the chambers. Sometimes, you may have to spin the cylinder while giggling the loader with your left hand thumb. Again, it takes a little getting used to, but it works and it's not hard to do or get used to. Just takes a few try to get it down. Haven't seen a revolver or a set of grips that I couldn't use a speedloader with. It works every time. The reason you have to giggle it is because the rounds up against the grips don't just fall in as easy, so if you giggle it, they will fall into place. Again, I still prefer strips now. Price is better (2 for the price of 1 loader), can carry an extra round per strip, take only a second or two longer to load, they lay flat in the pocket and I can carry more of those in my pocket than I can loaders.
I have both but carry the strips more often for reasons noted below by other viewers. Watched another video by massad ayoub (spelling?) where he shoots 2 shots and then tips the gun at a 45 degree angle muzzle downward, opens the cylinder and slightly depresses the plunger lifting the shells 1/2 an inch. Spent shells have expanded and lost some weight so they tend to stay in place when the plunger is released but the unused shells slide back into place. You can then grab the spent shells and replace them with new ones from the speed strip but with the speed loader you can't do this you have to dump all the shells used or not.
just bought a used 605 had not shot it as of yet, but I believe that strip makes more sense for practicality. You could put many of those on you and not feel bulky. Thank You for sharing
I just bought the Taurus 605 Poly Protector, I prefer yours, but the Poly was $20 cheaper and I hadn't seen a single video that revealed any difference in performance between the two so I went w/the cheaper (yet uglier) version. I have the EXACT same problem (of course) with my grips and not being able to use my speed loaders and like you, I plan to change them so a grip more friendly to speed loaders. Thanks
Nice vid! I had heard of speed strips for a while but this is the first time I saw one. I have a 6 inch 686 with a shoulder holster. There are two pouches made for the speed loaders that act as counterbalances and I've gotten pretty good at the loaders. I found a spot that had perfect loaders that matched my 7 chamber wheel. Plus like you showed there was a good amount of room to get them in. I can beat or tie most average folks when they're using a mag too
To reload it takes practice with speed strips and loaders, the difference is with loaders you have fired your weapon dry, with strips you can reload one or two rounds. I would suggest using snap caps for drills at home. Practice Practice Practice....
I do carry sometimes? Either you do or don't. If you don't carry all the time you're asking for trouble if you every get into a dangerous situation. Every heard of Murphy's Law.
I have a speed loader for a S&W 638. Practice, Practice Practice. I keep the gun in my right hand and load with my left My hand is big enough and gun small enough to reach ejector rod with right hand fingers. You can also hit ejector against left wrist. The bad part about speed loader is its uncomfortable to carry.
An elderly person or someone with arthritis or any kind of disability of the hand will struggle with the speed strips, even a person who isn't disabled will struggle with the speed strips just as you demonstrated, where the HKS is much easier and also if you train with them you can get very fast with them. Revolvers are like shotguns, keeping them loaded takes training and far more work than firearms that are magazine fed. They can be very effective if used and trained with properly. Plus revolvers are just cool.
I prefer day to day the speed strips as they are easily concealable in my pockets. To me slightly slower to load, but it is more important to be hidden, again to me.
Most days five shots are five more than I needed. Other days I have a beretta. Reload issues matter little to most people. Being able to put each shot on target does. Aim small, miss small.
Best speed loader is SL Variant. German made. Wish they still made them. You just push it in to release. No knobs to turn. The release mechanism is in the middle of the speed loader. You can shake it all you want, put it in your pocket and it will not get loose.
Instead of the pricey speed loaders, you may want to try the J-Clips from Zeta6. They look like a speed loader but are made of soft rubber similar to the Quick Strips.
I prefer the Safariland Speedloaders. All you have to do is press the button on the back to release the cartridges. I love the Taurus 605, but it is THE most difficult revolver to load with speedloaders. Five shot small frame Smith, Rossi, Ruger, and Colt are all easier.
Loading .38spl from speed loader seems to be a bit easier than .357 rounds. Some of the other comments about carrying on your person are good comments. Carrying speed loaders takes additional carriers and expense. I had a couple from work and occassional use them. Either are better than fumbling with them under pressure- just practice
As with any activity a little practice is needed to be good at what you're trying to do. The HK loader is pretty fast depending on the grips on the weapon. The strip loader also needs practice, but I would use those on my single action fixed cylinder 'cowboy' 357 magnum.
After getting Safariland speedloaders I will never buy HKS if I don't have to again. They work so much better. And no issue with loading my stock gripped 605 with them and full 357Mags.
Just tried some speed strips this morning in my 856. Not my cup of tea at all. Super slow and I don't wanna torque my rounds sideways going in, I want them to fall in gently. If speedloaders are uncomfortable there's nothing wrong with keeping a handful of rounds in your pocket and round nose will single load pretty quickly.
@@Jeffrey_C_Hackett I meant WITH a loader since the whole subject was talking about them. You wouldn't be the first for me to prove how fast it can be with speed loaders. You'd be surprised.
Spent many a day qualifying with a revolver using the speed loaders... like anything it takes practice. The only way to Conveniently carry speed loaders is in a belt pouch designed for them. Kind of bulky in a pocket.
If one must reload a five shooter revolver under haste due to belligerent attack, either firearm or other, one's tactics or marksmanship are lacking. I do hope the person in question survives to learn . The "36" designation comes from the S&W Model 36. (Look it up.) A small frame, five shot revolver as Mr. Cohen says, and all the various copies thereof. Durability: Both are reasonably fool proof. The mechanical speed loader will fill up with pocket lint and possibly be prevented from operating. It does take a while to acquire enough crud and I've never had one fail to operate - but I have a couple get 'sticky'. Take them out of the pocket, remove the cartridges and clean the device. Brush it off, blow it off with an air compressor, brush it off with one of the 'tooth brush' sort of things. Wipe all the rounds individually with a reasonably clean shop rag and reload the device. The speed strips have little to clog. They do get weak and wimpy sooner or later, but it takes a while (several years - ) and gives plenty of warning. The original grips usually work the best for the speed loader (not always). The original grips usually work the worst for shooting. They are thin, brutal in recoil due to thinness, and seem to be designed for seriously crippled hands. After market grips such as those by Hogue or Pachmyer shoot well, but are not always the best for speed loaders. One has to find a set of grips that do both. Speed stripes typically ignore grips. Find grips good for shooting. For that matter, if the first five count properly, the second five are not nearly as stressful. Concentrate on marksmanship. When I carry a five shooter, I usually carry a full revolver and one speed strip (full, of course) in my right front trouser pocket. A speed loader is about as bulky as the revolver itself. The strip is also more convenient to grab than five or six loose rounds - which is the third alternative. Mr. Cohen, forgive me. The video is quite useful. The visuals of how things work are quite well performed. The lighting was good, despite your concerns. Your diction and pronunciation are clear and understandable. I probably sound like a know it all, but I've been using a double action revolver (S&W devotee, the M19 revolver when the barrels were pinned and cylinders were recessed are close to perfection) since BEFORE speed loaders were readily accessible. (Latter half of the 1970's in my failing memory.)
@@tonyrebel63 Thank you. I try and know that I will someday die and won't be able to further share or argue. I am somewhat of an old guy, but I want to die with as little unshared experience as I can.
@@OldManMontgomery Well I appreciate that. It does make a difference to me knowing that there are people willing to share with others what may just help in making an informed decision. I have been carrying speed loaders and now see the benefit of having strips instead. I simply refuse to carry a semi auto. I love the revolver all day every day the simplicity makes me keep going back to it. Now they make them with 8 round chambers. I finally got my hands on a Taurus 942 in June paid 2 times the price but hey I could afford it. Then I got a 627 and 905. LOL just this weekend I sold my 2 inch snubby 605 and got a 3" defender. Should have it by Friday from my FFL. I cant seem to find them in the local stores here in Houston so I ended up on gun broker.
Hello Ari. Be sure to try the Safariland speedloader. I like the comp1 or comp2. They are much more intuitive to use. I have comp 1 for my 5 shot and comp 2 for my 6 shot . Both work great, with a little training in reloading the speedoaders.
excellant video i us speed strips carry several in eye glasses case very comfortable in my pocket use 2 fingers both sides of cylinder firm grip loads fastest in my rossi 38 special snubby
I used to also carry sometimes. Then, my damn crystal ball broke. So, now I just carry all the time
Happens in the best of families, Joe.
They just don't make crystal balls like they used to.
Simple solutions for difficult times.
Man it depends on which I like more. I have this little leather holder for two speed loaders that I just add to my belt and I'm ready to go. Also, I don't have an issue with lining up the speed loaders: it lines right up with my 5 shot Ruger LCR 357 and drops the bullets right in. Easy every time, including my first try. Nothing aftermarket necessary. But otherwise, dropping a speed strip in your pocket is more viable in terms of comfort and space when speed loaders prove to be too bulky. But right now I'm working on a new way to speed load, my own invention... kind-of. Get a desert eagle mag of 357 and trim the wire just enough to be able to fit 10 rounds into it. Now you have a single mag of 10 rounds of 357 that you just "thumb" over into your revolver.
I never considered using the strips until watching your video. I'll certainly give them a go. Thanks for sharing your review.
Speed loaders were originally used mostly by police who usually carried full size revolvers. I carried a Model 19 and they worked fine. When I later tried the ones for five shot revolvers on my model 36 I found the same problem as shown in the video. Speed strips aren't really "speedy" unless you practice a lot, but they are an easy way to carry extra rounds with very little bulk.
I like the speed strips for no other reason then having one in your pocket is simple and out of the way.
you ever sit on a speed loader?! Sitting on a strip is seldom noticeable.
John Inphx same I like it’s easy to keep in pocket
I WOULD CARRY THE 8 SHOT SNUB NOSE AND ONE SPEED LOADER WHAT MORE ARE YOU GOING NEED.
@@DENIEL381 in reality the 8 shots are enough. The speed loader is in case of some crazy 1 in a billion event
Big difference between Speedloaders and Speed Strips! I have the HKS-36 Speedloaders, that I've had for over 40 years. Speed strips, on the other hand rarely last more than a few years before they become brittle. Strips are handier, but Speedloaders will definitely last longer. Just my opinion.
I carry my 605 loaded with. 357 magnum, but I keep 38 special in my hks speedloaders. I find that the shorter 38 cartridges loads much easier and faster
I've carried a couple of these speed loaders every day for years, never once had one pop open on me. I dont think you can go wrong with either choice as long as you practice with what you choose to go with.
How many times did you have a gunfight?
FYI even though you have a 5 shot revolver, get a 6 shot speed strip so you have a better grip on it. Also, start with the far end then work your way back, so much easier
I think the quick strips are better for they are flatter in the pocket and seem to be easier to load during a stressful situation. I love my 605.
I agree. Speed loaders can spill rounds which doesn't help. The fastest way is to use moon clips because those just drop in and rounds are locked into the clip, however , you have to route the cylinder to accomodate the depth of the moon clip. But even after you route your cylinder you can still load with quick strips or speed loaders anyway
keep the speed strips loaded and on you every time you're carrying the weapon. Remember you don't have to fully load it to shoot it again, sometimes it's better to load two, make those two shots count, then load the rest.
I'm guessing incase someone else gets their hands on your gun?
Hi Ari, I carry speed strips in a little phone pouch. Waliworld has some smaller ones for older flip phones. These fit perfectly for 3 357 speed strips. There are some pouches for speed loaders out there but they come bulky. Just saying.
Herr Mahlzahn you have a great mind for sure!!!
I also use a flip phone holster for speed strips. Cheap and works great. 👍🏻👍🏻
I started my career with loops and graduated to dump pouches... then came speed strips to fit the dump pouches and finally speed loaders. In uniform there is no issue with speed loaders and if carried in a jacket pocket the speed loader is hardly noticeable. Speed loaders are faster than speed strips. Speed strips are best for concealed carry as they lay flat in your pocket. They are also easier to hold on to than a handful of rounds when attempting to load under pressure and cover. Practice with both, carry a speed strip and a few speed loaders in the glove box or night stand. The "average gun fight" is maybe three rounds and that leaves your five shot almost empty, it's nice to have a reload available near by.
Very helpful! Changed my mind about how I will carry my ammo for my Taurus 85 --On my way to get my speed strips! Thank you
Thanks for the review. I just purchased this gun and I think I’ll buy the speed strips. I’ve heard that this is a difficult gun to use speed loaders with specially with the original grips. But I think the strips would be more comfortable in the pocket than the other loader.
U heard right...speedloaders don't work well with the 605.
Great video i have just purchased a revolver so your advice on speed strips was very helpful 👍
GOD BLESS YOU AND STAY SAFE IN THESE TROUBLED TIMES 🙋♂️🇬🇧
There is a special pouch made for carrying two loaded speed-loaders and this is the only safe way for carrying them. Also, being able to effectively use a speed-loader in the field and under pressure calls for a hell of a lot of drill, so much so that it becomes totally reflexive. No thinking. It's okay to carry the rubber strip loader in a pocket, but the same drill requirement applies for using it. Hours of eyes-closed practice until no thinking is required.
Like others have said, I had never heard of the speedstrips, but would definitely be open to trying them! I agree, less moving parts is a plus!
I've used the speed strips for carry, and speed loaders for the range. I like the speed loaders better, but never found a convenient way to carry them. I've been using an old S&W Model 36, which has seen better days. I'm seriously considering the Taurus 605, so thank you for doing this whole series on your revolver. Greatly appreciated.
You bet! I'm uploading a new video today with the 605 at the range. Just got back and I'm editing it now. Check it out. I'll put a detailed written summary in the video description.
Can't use speed loaders with the Taurus 605.
Zabieru McCloud you can. Look at my long ass comment above this on the main comment section. It will work, you just can't put the rounds all the way in. Stick the tips in, unlock and giggle it a little. As long as you're pointing downward which I'm sure most people would, they will fall into place. I'm thinking of doing a video showing this. Also, if necessary, spin the cylinder with your left hand thumb while you're giggling.
I do the speed loader 2-3 times faster than a strip, usually 5 sec. It takes practice.
Agreed. Technique is key. I noticed that instead of shoving the rounds in before release like he does in this video, I will actually just put the bullet itself into the cylinder, release, and let the rounds “fall” in. Much faster and no chance of snagging.
One thing I've noticed with semi autos is that people just unload them. When shooting a wheel gun I seem to think and take time to aim/shoot.
DEF easier to run through much more ammo w/ my auto's. I love my revolvers for the simplicity of them, and the J frame with Bobbed hammer is just so tough and concealable. Been fortunate to acquire a bunch of Taurus Tuff and dependable little J's. Currently have 4 and they are my favorite. 3 - M85's and a M605 I bobbed the hammer spur and use the most. Some have had bad luck and bitch but I can trust my life with them. Plus.. I HATE picking up brass around home. I'm slowly cutting loose of my semi-autos.
Carried a revolver for 13 years in patrol in L.A. When you only had six in the cylinder you knew not to spray and pray. We took our time quickly and hit
No spray and pray
@@terrycoker4769 "took our time quickly" I like that
@@terrycoker4769: Shortly after NYPD switched from revolvers to automatics the stories of 'spraying' with zero hits started appearing -- and it hasn't improved much since. You are absolutely right about more effective use of the six-shot revolver being based on conscious awareness of its ammo limitation.
Great video. I have both. I agree with your choice. I only use the speed loader at the range. Both definately have their advantages n a firefight though.
I carry four speedloaders and four speed strips. I practice with snap caps each night to keep muscle memory up.
I kept one each per revolver, the New York reload being my preferred reload option.
I've carried the speed strips for better than 20 yrs. One can become very proficient and can reload almost as fast as w/ a speed loader. The quick strip is easier to conceal but they will crack w\ time and use.
I don't carry anymore but in the mid 90s my favorite carry gun was a J frame that i loaded with 158 grain lead hollow points backed up by two speedstrips loaded with same. This was the most convenient carry option for me at that time. I understand these days their are a lot of super compact 9mm and 380 options but the J frame with speedstrips is still a good carry option in my book
Honestly I am a first time gun buyer and I just recently got a Ruger 357 magnum, i also bought a speed loader for it. It's a safariland speedloader, it is all plastic but it feels well made for 12 dollars.. in fact so well made i bought 4 more of them cause i like them so much
I have found using speed loader for my 686 to be very quick yet I’m limited on carrying. Seeing the strip I could easily put 3-5 in my back pockets and I would be able to have ample probably too much however very convenient. Thank you looks like I’m investing in strips for both my 686 and colt Cobra. Excellent review
I’m getting a Taurus 605 in a couple days, my first snub nose revolver. I’ve been watching all the videos you’ve made on yours and found them very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to upload them.
did you ever get around to buying that 605? and I also was wondering what kind of an experience have you had with it, if you did buy one? I'd love to hear about it.
Just read an article by someone (not me) who added a 3rd option and that was to carry a .357 magnum magazine. It's flat and the magnum research ones carry 9 rds and go for 40-50 bucks (more expensive yes). Slip it in the pocket or get a kydex mag holder and when the time comes eject the rounds into the cylinder with your thumb as needed.
I do the same with my Charter Arms Pitbull 9mm, 40 S&W and 45 ACP revolvers.. 9mm has around the same ballistics as the 38+P at almost half the cost. No moon clips needed. Ejects like a regular revolver. A great innovation for plinking with cheap ammo.
I’d seen the strips, but hadn’t caught the ‘load two at a time’. That makes a difference!! I’ve got 4 speed loaders, and they are a bit awkward, and they print bigger in the pocket. I’ll have to try the strips. Thanks.
Excellent Review. I've been searching for a speed loader and was unaware of the Quick Strip. Now I have options. Thanks for posting.
Use an sks stripper clip. They hold ten rounds.
Just watched your video. Just bought a Charter Arms Magpug in
.357 and considering carrying as ankle holster. Very old school, but I'm 67 years old and carried one (snubbie) in Vietnam that way. Speed strips look to me a more concealable way to carry 2 full loads plus load in pistol. If I need more than 15 rounds, I need to get out of where I'm at.
I’ve had a Charter Patriot 327 as my default pocket gun for 10 years. Whole lotta ass in a small package
If I was in a fast-moving life or death situation -the speed strips would be easier, faster and simpler to retrieve and use. In a 5-shot revolver you could open the cylinder, dump empties -and strip off two rounds , close and keep squeezing quickly until they cycle around and go off. Those one or two shots could save your life -over wasting more time, by trying to load all 5 ( or 6, with a six-shooter ).
One thing you failed to mention is "Training",it take about 3000 repetitions before something becomes muscle memory,throw a stressful event into the mix especially with a speed strip and you can imagine what will happen.
I believe the speed strip is definitely the way to go. Suggestion: a speed strip with more holes than the gun you use, will make the strips even easier to use, because it provides more surface to hold on to. I use a six round speed strip for my Smith and Wesson 442, even though it's a 5 shot revolver. Sometimes I carry a Rock Island Armory m 206, which is a six shot revolver, and can use the same speed strips for either gun. But, I wish I'd gotten speed strips with even more rounds capacity. I've been carrying outside the waistband at about 2 or 3 o'clock, and the revolvers conceal well. Naturally, the smaller one conceals better.
Thank you for posting. That was informative.
Thanks much for sharing this video!!! I've always wondered about the two and how they compare. Blessings 😇
I like the unabashed amateur tone of this. We're learning together.
I found that for 5 round revolvers, the 5 Star J2 .357/.38 speed loader works best and fits along side of the grip because of the shape of the loader.
Speed loader far superior than those strips! And you can load your revolver all in one shot! :)
You are so correct
Yea, I went for the speed strips because of how slim they are compared to the loaders.
Picked up my 1st pocket revolver. S&W J frame. I’ll be getting speed strips for it. Thanks.
I'm going with the speed strips , easier to carry .
Easier to carry ,yes.
That 125 grain Remington semi-jacket hollow point in 357 was used by KSP in the revolver years. It separated itself from the other loads as top notch. 1 shot stoppages in the K5 zone.
Ari, as you found, and others have noted, the speed strips are easier to use fairly fast without much practice, and they are a little less bulky. With significant practice (which is a really good idea for any carry gun, by the way), the speed loaders end up being much faster overall for combat reloads in a small frame revolver. With a couple of hours of practice with the HKS speed loaders, I got to the point I could do it very quickly with my eyes closed, something you may not be able to do with the speed strips. I keep the speed loaders in a cargo pocket in my pants or shorts. I also do regular mirror drills with snap caps to ensure I can draw the gun from concealment easily and reload quickly and smoothly. Just a thought, YMMV.
bonus points for wearing the Franklin's BBQ shirt.
I've used speedloaders with Taurus' medium-frame (6-shot and 7-shot) revolvers, and they work great. However, they don't work as well with their small frame revolvers, since they catch on the grip as you mentioned. I've never tried Speedstrips.
After watching your informative video the speed strips are the way to go
Excellent video. Clear, concise to the point.
One more thing. Speed loaders will not work with the Taurus 85 or 605 unless you modify the grips or change to different grips. The thick rubber of the original grips gets in the way of the speedloaders. Good shooting.
Gs Wovoka thanks much sir!! I'm really thinking of picking up the 605. Blessings 😇
I'm only considering this revolver but I would want to use the speed strips
I prefer the strips nowadays, but with these grips and other guns with grip issues and speedloaders, they won't fit all the way in, but I stick the tips of the rounds in the chambers and just push them in slightly and turn the lock and giggle it a little and they will all fall in. It has worked for me every time, but you HAVE to giggle it and let them fall into place before you pull the loader away from the cylinder. It will work with the stock grips or any other kind you can think of. This will work with many other types of revolvers as well. Just thought I'd throw that out there in case anyone has never tried it. It is all kind of tight once you insert the ends of the rounds, but that's all you need. Just make sure when you turn it, giggle it and let them fall. Once the tips are in, they have nowhere else to go except into the chambers. Takes some getting used to, but it works. Not as easy as with other grips, but with my 605,i used the loaders quite a few times with the stock grips and it works. However, I still prefer the strips now anyways. I always carry 6 rounds in it even with my 5 shot Smith or Taurus because I carry 2-4 strips and it just gives you an extra round per strip in case you should ever need it. It doesn't take up any more room in your pocket with that extra round in it, and you may as well have the extra round(s).
Add the Hogue wood 1 piece grips to the list of not speed loader friendly. They cost too much for me to modify IMHO. More excuses to buy another revolver that they can work on. Gun Guy logic.
I have a model 85 and never had any issues loading with a speedloader with original grips.
I had to reload my service revolver in a gunfight w/armed robbers in ‘74 using a speed loader. If you carry a revolver get a speed loader and practice, it will save your life. In retirement I keep a couple of speedloaders in the car & carry a speedstrip in my pants pocket.
Dang I was still finding my way around middle school at that time lol
Jose Rosado Good luck & stay safe. If you carry a revolver on duty have at least an extra 50 rounds on hand. I learned my lesson in 1974 when I ran out of ammo after firing 12 rounds in a gunfight.
Tony Rebel The good news I’m retired, bad news I’m old!
Jose Rosado Good choice but be sure to have enough spare ammo on hand for a fight that may or may not be coming. Even in retirement I keep spare rounds in my car and at least one reload on my person.
While I prefer the HKS type speedloader when it has proper clearance from any grip, I do see a safety factor in use of the speed strips. When the rounds are inserted in the individual strip, the primers are covered and rendered safe from any pointed object (keys) impacting an exposed primer and setting it off in the pocket (or purse). The HKS speedloaders usually aren't carried in a pocket, but in a case on the belt, which also keeps them from contact with sundry objects and detonating. However, the speed strips will carry flat in any pocket without the need for a special case or holster.
I always carry one of each. Speed loaders are faster but they can jam and not release the cartridges. Speed strips are certain. Quick is good if it works and they usually do but if it fails you have a problem.
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I have both, and both are fine, but I prefer strips now. They will work with ANY gun that is the caliber they are made for. Loaders are 10 bucks for 1 loader and the strips are 10 bucks for 2 of them. I like that the strips are flat which fit better into my pockets. Also, the loaders only hold however many it's designed to hold. 5 shot for a 5 shot, 6 for 6 shot, 7 for 7 shot, et cetera. The strips I got are 6 shot strips. I only carried 5 rounds in them because my carry guns are 5 shot. Then one day it dawned on me that I might as well put 6 rounds in it because it takes up no more room in my pocket and since I carry 2-4 at a time, that's 2-4 extra rounds just in case. Probably will never need it, but we don't carry guns because it'll never be needed, we carry because it is a possibility, so why not have the extra round? They may make 5 round or 7 round strips, but I only saw 6 shot at the store. I wouldn't even buy a 5 shot one now because unlike loaders, you can use a 6 or 7 shot strip with a 5 shot gun, but you can only use a 5 shot loader with a 5 shot gun. The strips take about a second longer to load too, so it's not a drastic difference. For anyone who doesn't know that reads this (because I did not know before I bought them) you load 2 rounds at a time. I prefer them greatly.
Now, as far as loaders go, many people have problems loading them into a gun with certain grips. I have found that if you just put in the tips (no pun intended) and unlock it, give it a giggle and they will fall in. You don't have to put the rounds all the way into the cylinder while they are in the loader to load it. It takes a little getting used to, but my grips on my 605 (magna style grips) make it like this. I just line up the rounds, put the ends of them in, push it in a tiny bit (about as far as they can fit) unlock, giggle it BEFORE YOU REMO THE LOADER and they just fall into place. If the tips are in and you unlock it while the rounds are pointing down, they have nowhere to go except into the chambers. Sometimes, you may have to spin the cylinder while giggling the loader with your left hand thumb. Again, it takes a little getting used to, but it works and it's not hard to do or get used to. Just takes a few try to get it down. Haven't seen a revolver or a set of grips that I couldn't use a speedloader with. It works every time. The reason you have to giggle it is because the rounds up against the grips don't just fall in as easy, so if you giggle it, they will fall into place.
Again, I still prefer strips now. Price is better (2 for the price of 1 loader), can carry an extra round per strip, take only a second or two longer to load, they lay flat in the pocket and I can carry more of those in my pocket than I can loaders.
I have both but carry the strips more often for reasons noted below by other viewers. Watched another video by massad ayoub (spelling?) where he shoots 2 shots and then tips the gun at a 45 degree angle muzzle downward, opens the cylinder and slightly depresses the plunger lifting the shells 1/2 an inch. Spent shells have expanded and lost some weight so they tend to stay in place when the plunger is released but the unused shells slide back into place. You can then grab the spent shells and replace them with new ones from the speed strip but with the speed loader you can't do this you have to dump all the shells used or not.
just bought a used 605 had not shot it as of yet, but I believe that strip makes more sense for practicality. You could put many of those on you and not feel bulky. Thank You for sharing
I just bought the Taurus 605 Poly Protector, I prefer yours, but the Poly was $20 cheaper and I hadn't seen a single video that revealed any difference in performance between the two so I went w/the cheaper (yet uglier) version. I have the EXACT same problem (of course) with my grips and not being able to use my speed loaders and like you, I plan to change them so a grip more friendly to speed loaders. Thanks
I use HKS speedloaders for 357 magnum ammo.
I use speedstrips for 38 special ammo.
Both work well.
Thanks just the presentation I wanted and it answered all my questions. 👍
I carry same 605. Its good idea to cary a couple extra speed loaders. The 605 is a hand full shooting full power 357s.
Nice vid! I had heard of speed strips for a while but this is the first time I saw one. I have a 6 inch 686 with a shoulder holster. There are two pouches made for the speed loaders that act as counterbalances and I've gotten pretty good at the loaders. I found a spot that had perfect loaders that matched my 7 chamber wheel. Plus like you showed there was a good amount of room to get them in. I can beat or tie most average folks when they're using a mag too
I got the same setup as you. My straps are nylon and the holster is suede leather.
Great vid buddy 👍🏾. Very helpful.
I'ved a speed loader before but the strips lookeasier to carry and use. I just orderd some, thanks for the info.
Good video. May want to check out the Zeta6 clips which are speed strips, speed loaders, and moon wedge strips. Very useful and affordable.
Carry both
Thank you for not adding background music.
To reload it takes practice with speed strips and loaders, the difference is with loaders you have fired your weapon dry, with strips you can reload one or two rounds.
I would suggest using snap caps for drills at home.
Practice
Practice
Practice....
I do carry sometimes? Either you do or don't. If you don't carry all the time you're asking for trouble if you every get into a dangerous situation. Every heard of Murphy's Law.
I have a speed loader for a S&W 638.
Practice, Practice Practice.
I keep the gun in my right hand and load with my left
My hand is big enough and gun small enough to reach ejector rod with right hand fingers. You can also
hit ejector against left wrist.
The bad part about speed loader is its uncomfortable to carry.
An elderly person or someone with arthritis or any kind of disability of the hand will struggle with the speed strips, even a person who isn't disabled will struggle with the speed strips just as you demonstrated, where the HKS is much easier and also if you train with them you can get very fast with them. Revolvers are like shotguns, keeping them loaded takes training and far more work than firearms that are magazine fed. They can be very effective if used and trained with properly. Plus revolvers are just cool.
I carry both with the speed loader as first in line. 👍🏻 on your video, also love your T-shirt great place to eat here in Austin!
I would have both. It depends on the application. 2 speed strips for concealed and loaders around the house. A Glock for a New York Reload!
Great instructional video! Thank you
I prefer day to day the speed strips as they are easily concealable in my pockets. To me slightly slower to load, but it is more important to be hidden, again to me.
Cartridges or rounds...not "bullets"
If you carry the same ammo for a year, they say the powder can break down as it moves and shakes in the cartridges and that it should be changed out.
Thank you my guy much love
Most days five shots are five more than I needed. Other days I have a beretta. Reload issues matter little to most people. Being able to put each shot on target does. Aim small, miss small.
Best speed loader is SL Variant. German made. Wish they still made them. You just push it in to release. No knobs to turn. The release mechanism is in the middle of the speed loader. You can shake it all you want, put it in your pocket and it will not get loose.
Great video thanks I'm new to revolvers
Instead of the pricey speed loaders, you may want to try the J-Clips from Zeta6. They look like a speed loader but are made of soft rubber similar to the Quick Strips.
I prefer the Safariland Speedloaders. All you have to do is press the button on the back to release the cartridges. I love the Taurus 605, but it is THE most difficult revolver to load with speedloaders. Five shot small frame Smith, Rossi, Ruger, and Colt are all easier.
Loading .38spl from speed loader seems to be a bit easier than .357 rounds. Some of the other comments about carrying on your person are good comments. Carrying speed loaders takes additional carriers and expense. I had a couple from work and occassional use them. Either are better than fumbling with them under pressure- just practice
As with any activity a little practice is needed to be good at what you're trying to do. The HK loader is pretty fast depending on the grips on the weapon. The strip loader also needs practice, but I would use those on my single action fixed cylinder 'cowboy' 357 magnum.
I like the speed strips. They lie flat in your pocket.
Excellent video thanks for the vdeo and time 👍
There are nice holders for the speed loaders I have one that holds 2 and slides on the belt like a holster
Thanks bro I feel stupid now lol I was having a time trying to figure out how it would even fit with the loader haha
After getting Safariland speedloaders I will never buy HKS if I don't have to again. They work so much better. And no issue with loading my stock gripped 605 with them and full 357Mags.
Just tried some speed strips this morning in my 856. Not my cup of tea at all. Super slow and I don't wanna torque my rounds sideways going in, I want them to fall in gently. If speedloaders are uncomfortable there's nothing wrong with keeping a handful of rounds in your pocket and round nose will single load pretty quickly.
If you use a strip I found this easier if you put the bottom one in first and work up.
You have to call "TIME OUT!" when you need to reload a 5 shooter.
Funny like when I was a kid playing hockey in the street and a car came... "Car!" drag nets to curb "Game On!" drag nets back on street
If youre used to it Chris, its pretty fast. I can reload 6 shot revolver as fast as you can do a magazine change and even faster sometimes.
I seriously doubt you can load six rounds without a loader faster than I can swap a magazine. Even with a loader I doubt it.
@@Jeffrey_C_Hackett I meant WITH a loader since the whole subject was talking about them. You wouldn't be the first for me to prove how fast it can be with speed loaders. You'd be surprised.
That’s funny sounds like a noob cuz us professionals just New York reload ......grab the back up
Spent many a day qualifying with a revolver using the speed loaders... like anything it takes practice. The only way to Conveniently carry speed loaders is in a belt pouch designed for them. Kind of bulky in a pocket.
If one must reload a five shooter revolver under haste due to belligerent attack, either firearm or other, one's tactics or marksmanship are lacking. I do hope the person in question survives to learn . The "36" designation comes from the S&W Model 36. (Look it up.) A small frame, five shot revolver as Mr. Cohen says, and all the various copies thereof.
Durability: Both are reasonably fool proof. The mechanical speed loader will fill up with pocket lint and possibly be prevented from operating. It does take a while to acquire enough crud and I've never had one fail to operate - but I have a couple get 'sticky'. Take them out of the pocket, remove the cartridges and clean the device. Brush it off, blow it off with an air compressor, brush it off with one of the 'tooth brush' sort of things. Wipe all the rounds individually with a reasonably clean shop rag and reload the device. The speed strips have little to clog. They do get weak and wimpy sooner or later, but it takes a while (several years - ) and gives plenty of warning.
The original grips usually work the best for the speed loader (not always). The original grips usually work the worst for shooting. They are thin, brutal in recoil due to thinness, and seem to be designed for seriously crippled hands. After market grips such as those by Hogue or Pachmyer shoot well, but are not always the best for speed loaders. One has to find a set of grips that do both.
Speed stripes typically ignore grips. Find grips good for shooting. For that matter, if the first five count properly, the second five are not nearly as stressful. Concentrate on marksmanship.
When I carry a five shooter, I usually carry a full revolver and one speed strip (full, of course) in my right front trouser pocket. A speed loader is about as bulky as the revolver itself. The strip is also more convenient to grab than five or six loose rounds - which is the third alternative.
Mr. Cohen, forgive me. The video is quite useful. The visuals of how things work are quite well performed. The lighting was good, despite your concerns. Your diction and pronunciation are clear and understandable.
I probably sound like a know it all, but I've been using a double action revolver (S&W devotee, the M19 revolver when the barrels were pinned and cylinders were recessed are close to perfection) since BEFORE speed loaders were readily accessible. (Latter half of the 1970's in my failing memory.)
We need more people like you who have knowledge.
@@tonyrebel63 Thank you. I try and know that I will someday die and won't be able to further share or argue. I am somewhat of an old guy, but I want to die with as little unshared experience as I can.
@@OldManMontgomery Well I appreciate that. It does make a difference to me knowing that there are people willing to share with others what may just help in making an informed decision. I have been carrying speed loaders and now see the benefit of having strips instead. I simply refuse to carry a semi auto. I love the revolver all day every day the simplicity makes me keep going back to it. Now they make them with 8 round chambers. I finally got my hands on a Taurus 942 in June paid 2 times the price but hey I could afford it. Then I got a 627 and 905. LOL just this weekend I sold my 2 inch snubby 605 and got a 3" defender. Should have it by Friday from my FFL. I cant seem to find them in the local stores here in Houston so I ended up on gun broker.
I think the speed strips are more practical you could load a lot in a small pouch
Hello Ari. Be sure to try the Safariland speedloader. I like the comp1 or comp2. They are much more intuitive to use. I have comp 1 for my 5 shot and comp 2 for my 6 shot . Both work great, with a little training in reloading the speedoaders.
Gs Wovoka Thank you sir!!
@CallMeOgmios I have those speed strips and need to eventually get those loaders.
I agree 👍 the speed strip is quicker more efficient. Great video.
excellant video i us speed strips carry several in eye glasses case very comfortable in my pocket use 2 fingers both sides of cylinder firm grip loads fastest in my rossi 38 special snubby