Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (Again) - Part 5: Deese Knuts 64
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 พ.ค. 2022
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The extra modes like MetaKnightmare are non cannon but the implications about the story are
Paradox: PROTAGONISTS! I challenge you to a Cardgame!
Yusei: You mean the very thing that’s gonna destroy the world?
Paradox: Yes! That!
Yusei: Seems pretty hypocritical…
Excuse you, it's spelled "PWOTAGONIIIIIST."
My pwan is gwear!
I mean he actually did comment that in the dub. They _knew_ the problem existed so... why didn't they?
To be fair some idiot thought hey let's turn a Ancient Egyptian way of summoning monsters into a children's card game what can possibly go wrong.
The reason DK64 needs the expansion pack Is because there's a memory leak that couldn't be fixed before it's holiday release so the memory pack fixes it by virtue of giving it more memory so the leak isn't as apparent, the game will still crash from the memory leak after an extended period of time being on.
It tends to pop up the most around creepy castle simply due to the scale of the map itself
Ironically enough, the leak is most apparent in emulation. Since most emulators have save states, most players save their position with save states instead of using the ingame save system. As a result, they get hit the memory leak issues more often then they did on console.
2:55 - Any old BSC fans remember when John mentioned Eversion around this part of the original commentary? I looked into the game later and I couldn't sleep that day, hooray!
I like how Ripple Star is what Pop Star Could of been if the spread of Dark Matter corrupted the planet completely in Dreamland 3 but like most worlds in the game it has a few cryptic shards with specific copy ability fusions and a boss fight that is harder than the final boss fight in miracle matter which I like the idea of using the same powers you use. Also Zero two's theme is a great song that needs to be remixed more we already have a lot of crowned remixes.
It only got remixed once in Brawl but they made it sound like some stupid techno song, ugh
Actually Paradox is part of a group from the 5D's era with the rest of the group being the final villains of 5D's due to the evolution of synchro summoning causing a robot future hellscape. Also card games on motorcycles
Synchro what now?
Synchro summon
Synchro what now?
SYNCHRO SUMMON
A part of me got hurt a bit from all this DK64 slander. Okay not really. That game is a childhood favorite of mine, but after playing though it several times recently, even with using glitches to optimize my experience, I can definitely understand why people give it such hate nowadays.
I never found Zero Two to be all that creepy to be honest. In fact I find Zero Two to be one of the more tamer Kirby final bosses as far as the creep factor goes. Hell I actually find Zero One from Dreamland 3 to be more unsettling than Zero Two.
Whispy Woods in Dream Land 3 is also rather alarming mostly because he was suddenly moving while having a deranged murderous expression.
Actually I think Void Termina is likely the most unsettling considering the implication that Kirby is (supposedly) the reincarnation of him.
tbh the boss model really isn't that scary, but the art in the credits does to me. The n64 polygon model makes everything cuter.
Because his retina splits out the Cornea and spills blood to actively kill Kirby.
Honestly, none of the Kirby final bosses are as scary as people say they are (though Fecto Forgo is an exception)
Fecto Forgo was just Mundus's final form in Devil May Cry 1, an advancing Wall of Flesh just like Birkin's final form from Resident Evil 2 and that one boss from DMC 2 on a building.
Forbidden DDD20: "Dodge this you F-*Poyo!*-king Casual!"
*Pulls out a gun*
I think DK64 is a really solid game if you do not go for 100% and just do everything that interests you. It has a great soundtrack, good atmosphere, and a lot to explore. I can't defend Beaver Bother or some of the races nor some of the tediousness of going for 100% but I think it's still a worthy game
It's like Mario Sunshine & Crash 4: It's About Time.
20:12 Add that to the list of already dated things they said in BrainScratch.
Yugioh bond beyond times movie is really good.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!!
Eh, the fact that the villain's motivation is that card games apparently destroyed the world and he wants to go back and eliminate them is way too stupid to enjoy the movie straight. That's why Little Kuriboh's abridged version works for me.
@@jlev1028 The duel with Paradox also could have been longer. I mean, you have the protagonists of the first Yu-Gi-Oh series teaming up to fight a new villain. You could at least make a longer duel for such a momentous event.
14:37 the smack-talk over Kirby and the Amazing Mirror is fascinating to me given that was the first Kirby game I played, and so it shaped my perception of the series for a while when I was a kid. It's very much the kind of game where when you're younger, it was a lot more fun to get lost in, whereas now, it's a chore to complete. T
hat said, I love the game a lot on a personal level, flaws and all, commentary when.
Amazing Mirror turned out to be a fan favorite of mine.
It aggravated me first time playing and I didn't play that much Kirby nor Metroid/Metroidvanias so its not like bias was the factor haha. This game really is love it or hate it on its first impression.
Ryan, actually Forgotten Land does have shmup sections(sort of)if you are playing in Co-op mode with Player 2 throwing spears at enemies in the Arch Mouth sections.
Jim Carrey, Jack Black, and Nicolas Cage in the same film. How would that go?
True story. When I was little in 2000, I wanted to buy a Kirby 64 strategy guide. So my dad took me to a Babbages (remember that place?) at the mall. I found one, and when I went to buy it, the clerk was super nice and thought Kirby was so cute, she let me buy it for a penny. So essentially, I got a free strategy guide.
Also, has anyone noticed Queen Ripple, aka laser-to-the-booty-lady, basically just looks like Ryan if he had an anime fairysona? lol
So what you're saying is the Crystal Shard fired a laser at Ryanna's butt?
1:27 You think Ted and John realized they just came up with the plot of the second season of Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's 😆?
Bonds Beyond Time actually ties into Season 2 of 5Ds. It's also why that season isn't quite as good as the first.
18:04 "Annnd Dark Matter is gone for good."
Me: No no Gooey's still around and he's Dark Matter.
Well, Gooey's friendly, so he doesn't count.
I always took it that Dark Matter is the Center of the Kirby Universe, along with the Mysterious Ancients.
We destroyed _A_ faction of a Dark Matter, (0/02 and his Cronies.), but other fractions of DM would come eventually;
The Ruler of Darkness/King of the Underworld, Dark Nebula.
The Crown Magalor sought after.
And the Destroyer of Worlds, Void Termina.
I like to imagine there is a "Dark Matter Prime" out there somewhere, kind of like the Crawling Darkness from Samurai Jack, where Aku is actually a fragment of something MUCH larger and cosmic that had to be sealed away/destroyed.
There’s a shmup section in Forgotten Land if you include multiplayer. Waddle Dee can throw spears while Kirby is gliding around. It reminds me a lot of Star Fox, actually.
It's just so incredibly jarring to see actual blood (or blood-like fluid) in an actual *Kirby* game of all things.
Perfect Dark is good. The remastered Xbox version fixes all of the inherent problems of it being on N64.
One of these days I hope the Rare games can just _magically_ come onto Steam.
(It happened for Halo, it can happen with the Rare games. And some stuff like Ghoulies and Piñata deserve a 2nd chance in this modern age.)
Metaknightmare and Dedede Tour are only canon near their end and that's to only explain certain things. Metaknightmare Ultra only exists to make Galacta Knight canon.
I really like the concept of ripple star's first level because it gives you a sense of how similar it is to pop star, and then the following levels act as a sign of "this is how bad pop star would have been fucked if Kirby wasn't there to save it from the dark matter invasion in dream land 3"
Iirc, there's no exact idea but there's photos of dedede and Adeline (and I thiiiiink waddle Dee) on their own in the levels. There's also concept art of all the animal friends, gooey, and 64 friends in a 4 x 4 square and I REALLY want that game where Kirby just had a mini army of friends travelling across the galaxy
I'm enough of a tooie apologist to like it on seperate merits from kazooie. Dk 64 Is a matter of "individually this game is good and has mostly good banana collecting, fuck Me though this is too much"
God miracle matter's theme slaps so much. Low key shame that the only remix of it is one that mashes it into ripple star and zero two and doesn't really get time to breath
Gonna agree with ted. Antdude did star allies dirty
I feel like zero two's red stuff out the eye can kiiiiinda be excused as "energy," but yeah zero straight up bleeds
I'd say void termina doesn't exactly count as dark matter returning when it's more like the progenitor/thing above it. Beyond getting mirror world dark matter, clone, and two weird offshoots it IS the closest we get to a return thoigh
According to kumazaki, the events inside of extra modes aren't canon, but most of the implications/lore inside them that can apply to the main games IS canon. Still don't like that tbh but at least forgotten land has been spared
The art shows Zero 2 bleeding from its eye.
Man I fucking love this game. Thanks for doing it again!
Apparently that DOS Speed game wasn't based on the movie Speed, it was based on the documentary Speed. From 1984. And used the logo from that.
Which looks a lot like the 1994 Speed logo.
"Perfect Dark is not good anymore"
Someone doesn't know about the HD remaster!
So Is Donkey Kong 64 not as liked nowadays because of the backtracking, various parts of the level design later down the road, or using specific characters to complete hidden sections of the game?
*All of the above.*
(But even then, DK64 still has it's fans. Though they will agree 100% isn't worth it.)
DK64 has the knack of being really, really annoying because its a collectathon that requires you to go through an entire level... 5 times. Because Bananas and other collectables are Kong-specific, and can only be picked up with one of five Kongs, which you can't change from one to another on the fly. Since its also a 3D game, the maps are generally larger than any of their 2D incarnations due to the nature of things, so it is very tedious and time-consuming. Since some characters are also locked away from a time until you unlock them, you have to go through the same levels you did previously a number of times after you already went through with it.
Yes.
The cause of nightmares for any child that managed to collect all of the crystal shards
Personally I played and beat Yooka-Laylee and my problem with it was that it felt like this weird in between child of Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie, like it had the size of Tooie but I feel like it lacked the focus OF Tooie. Like the worlds felt way to empty and lacked some noticeable landmarks to help navigating around (since the game had no map), like even the worst levels in Tooie at least had clear landmarks here and there so even if you got lost you could look around and either find something familiar or find a new landmark which will give you a sense of direction/goal. It also didn't help that the collectables in Yooka-Laylee were aimless at times, like I think we all have seen the bits where a person finds the one ghost you have to feed, and because said ghost doesn't say anything, the player does nothing but spam the tongue button. The quills also were weird in their placement, in both Kazooie and Tooie the notes, while being collectable, also served a purpose of acting like bread crumbs of sorts, a "follow the notes and you'll be lead somewhere", meanwhile the quills would sometimes just lead you into dead ends even if you upgraded a world to it's max size. All this rambling made better sense in my head so I hope it makes some sense in a written form as it could be completely wrong. It's just my two cents...
Also 02... OH ZERO-TWO, what I learnt is that if you want a large influx of fan art all you need to do is take Zero Two and make them a parent for our little boy Gooey and suddenly I got 50+ drawings done for me and in my fan art folder... Oops (I may be leaving out some details here and there but that's because my brain can't write youtube comments correctly, plus where's the fun of telling someone everything when they can look and see what horrors you have unleashed upon the world :V)
16:47 That legitimately pisses me off.
I was doing an Art project in school and my theme was Kirby, so I wanted to draw some things related to Kirby. One of which being Zero Two, so imagine my surprise when instead of the eldritch abomination, I get something worse. That is one of few times where I can say I learned something and then IMMEDIATELY hated it.
The name of this boss is more Zero Squared, not actually Zero Two...
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@@SonicmaniaVideos People still call it Zero Two
Of course, people usually take the easy way...
You got nothing but cute anime girls when you looked up Zero Two for reference, didn't you?
@@smashmaster521 Yeah. That was gross
Two things, none of the extra modes are canon only the main stories are, but the lore revealed in the extra modes are. Also, Nick Cage is great, you should see him Adaptation.
That's actually not the case with Forgotten Land
Hear me out, let's spin this situation with 02 and do a crossover between Kirby: Right Back at Ya and Darling in the Franxx. See how far we can take this.
Only 5 episodes with Ant Dude? I feel cheated!
Who here saw the new Nicolas fucking cage movie?
I wish I had a popeyes near me
Ah Mircale Matter... to this day this thing is just so bloody WEIRD
A piece of Dark Matter that's like a D20 that somehow uses Kirbys powers against him
Ripple Star is also such a cute looking planet
To explain it, things like Dededetour and Meta Knightmare Returns aren't canon but what they explain IS canon. Sectonia's backstory, HWC studying her and Dark Matter, etc
Phantasy Reverie isn't a remaster of the Wii Game Ant, it's a new version that happens to use some models from the Wii version for the environment, but they mostly have new textures and shading on them. The cut scenes and script are more similar to the PS1 game, and the voice acting will be from the PS1 version. The Klonoa 2 portion appears to be straight from the ground up, with only voices and music staying the same.
Playtonic's aim shouldn't have been just to make another N64 collectathon like game but a game that leaves out the bad elements and takes the best elements of all those N64 collectathons from their past and approach them with a modern spin. Another case where cashing in on nostalgia was the bigger goal than the quality of the output itself (looks at Mighty Number 9).
But then Yooka Laylee Impossible Liar comes out and would you look at; that they actually did what I described earlier, but with the SNES Donkey Kong Country games instead and it's a phenomenal game, miles above the first Yooka Laylee in its vision and polish. For that I commend Playtonic and I'm curious to see if they can keep this up with another title.
Wow... This is the last part of the playthrough? Already?
I was so excited for Yooka Laylee but I couldn’t get over how the rolling alternative to the talon trot felt so bad
During the 02 fight I'm just going to say have any of you looked up Zero-two's theme with lyrics by Man on the Internet? Give it a lesion I find it good
02 aka Childhood horror..... for the first time at least.
This guy may perish but he will influence every final boss throughout the series.
Onward to Forgotten Land.
Donkey Kong 64 needed the expansion pack due to a memory bug that caused the game to use too much memory, so the expansion pack fixed that, otherwise the game would crash after enough time.
Yeah there's a ton about void termina that is meant to connect it to dark matter. Right down to the meaning of it's name - void means nothing or... zero. Termina is like "final" or last or something like that, so the implication is that it's the "Final Zero". The color scheme of it's astral birth form is literally white and red and has zero facial expressions too, all tying together a lot of neat lore and implying that kirby's species and dark matter have common ancestry.
It also seemed like that was meant to be a call back and final sendoff to zero and all dark matter related stuff for the series, but hey, kirby can reference anything from any game at any time it chooses, so maybe not.
I always interpreted the boss rushes as non-canon except for the final secret boss, but who knows. Well, except for those who do.
If you want the nostalgia trip good for a party setting, turok rage wars is good go to. That’s what me and my friends settled on after we got sick of golden eye, and I still go back to it now and then. It’s wacky and fun. Just make a rule about using the sniper mode on the tek bow or plasma rifle beforehand.
I'm just gonna put this:
Kirby, meanwhile, sidled up close to Magolor, his eyes shining like stars. “Hey, what kind of things do they have to eat on Halcandra?”
“…Err, to eat?”
“Halcandra’s this super amazing place, right? So they’ve got to have super amazing food! Super amazing meat, super amazing fish, super amazing desserts…!”
“I…um…” Magolor seemed suddenly desperate to escape this line of questioning, but Kirby’s fantasies only grew.
“I bet you’ve got towers of hamburgers taller than the highest mountains, right?! And every river is full of sushi?! And syrup rains from the sky, drenching all the fruit in the field with juicy sweetness until the the whole planet is one big bowl of fruit punch! Right…?!”
“Uh…wha…?” Magolor froze, having not the slightest idea how to respond.
King Dedede raised his voice in challenge to Kirby. “Kirby, that’s ridiculous!"
He quickly rebuffed the other’s food fantasies. "Halcandra can make ships capable of crossing over into entirely different universes! You really think they have hamburger towers and fields of fruit punch?!”
“R-right, yes…!” Magolor looked up at King Dedede in relief.
The king’s voice grew louder as he raised a clenched fist. “Why would they need hamburger towers when the earth itself is made of meat?! And spicy steak sauce flows from active volcanoes like lava! Every eruption is the start of a planet-wide steak festival!”
“Really?! That’s the best! Aww, I can’t wait to go to Halcandra!”
Kirby and King Dedede began to dance and cheer enthusiastically. A dumbfounded Magolor finally found his voice. “I-I’m…not sure…the place is going to live up to your expectations…”
“Forget about them, Magolor.” Meta Knight responded coolly. “You’ll never escape the subject of food as long as you’re around Kirby and King Dedede. The only thing to do is ignore it.”
“Oh-kay…”
This is from Kirby: The Starcutter and the Lying Wizard, which is currently being translated by a fan.
If you want to read the Kirby novels, there's a masterpost that lists all of the fan translated volumes. The translation is a little flawed (from what I’ve seen so far, I’ve only read two volumes) but it’s still readable and enjoyable. The novels take place in a separate continuity, but some of the novels follow the games with some changes.
All this talk about good Rareware games and nobody mentions Jet Force Gemini... pain.
4:54 as someone learning computers and programming.....yeah I can agree lol
About like which extra modes are cannon most have cannon lore but the events themselves aren’t cannon so like with dedede tour the lore of the mirror being held by sectonia is cannon but dedede beating her and breaking the mirror supposedly isn’t
Wow, I didn't know this game was so short.
Will you be doing Forgotten Land next?
They will. Ted mentioned that he's recorded it.
@@lordkaijux5262 Alrighty then! This is gonna be good!
Most Kirby games until the Return to Dreamland era were short.
-i love Miracle Mater, & i wish there were more Kirby Bosses that used their versions of the Copy Abilities
-yeah sadly Yooka-Laylee was a reminder that people liked RARE Collectathons out of sheer Nostalgia & didn't aged that well, & because people lose to bring it up, No, Hat in Time doesn't resemble a RARE collectathon at all, that game is entirely built on Mario Sunshine/Galaxy's design
I think that's how the original playthrough ended too, but with DeDeDe looking left too
People will grind out MMORPGs for hundreds of hours and still say DK64 is cumbersome
Naturally because they only grind 1 character, not 5...
IMO, the problem with Yooka-Laylee was too few worlds. They tried to cram too many objectives into too few worlds.
While I love Klonoa as a character and his design, I played the Wii game and thought it was way too short.
16:50 *The 2010s. Darling in the FranXX came out in 2018.
I warmed up to Star Allies over time, yet I completely agree with its placement on Ant's ranking.
No amount of fanservice or free updates can make up for such a... braindead game, especially after 3 back to back bangers.
I disagree, I'll take star allies (before the updates), over amazing mirror, squeak squad, and the dark matter trilogy.
I disagree with his ranking because he put Pinball Land above it. Who would genuinely choose to play that game over Star Allies?
People are gonna hate me for this, but DK64 is my favorite DK game.
DK64 is fun when you don't try to collect everything. Just the major stuff you need to beat the game.
In the files of TF2, there’s a random JPEG of a coconut. If you delete it then the whole game doesn’t work. So it isn’t an exclude thing to Super Mario Galaxy, but it’s weird.
Team Fortress 2? If so that's actually hilarious.
That's not true. The coconut jpeg was meant for an unused particle effect for one of Soldier's taunts. Deleting it does nothing to the game.
The cow cutouts from 2fort on the other hand...yeah, the game can't launch without them.
DK64 isn't trash.
The only extra story mode being 100% Canon is Dedede Tour, as it happened after the main campaign, when the Floralians warned King Dedede about Sectonia's supposed return, and Dedede decided to take it upon himself to stop her.
Metaknightmare ultra in super star isn't canon until the final boss, which is canon.
Metaknightmare in Robobot isn't cannon at all, but COULD have happened.
Guest star mode is semi-canon as it introduces Morpho-Knight, and all of the characters you play as are technically capable of beating him, but it didn't actually happen. Star allies in general is weird, as the story mode is canon except for the final boss, which the canon version of that fight takes place in Soul Melter EX, apparently.
Dedede Tour is another "what if" scenario: it's non-canon.
None of the Extra Modes, Arenas or True Arenas are canon, but while their events aren't, the existence and implications of some their contents are.
Meta Knight has never canonically fought Galacta Knight, but Galacta Knight exists somewhere (or at least he did until Morpho Knight absorbed him, but they also seem to be beings capable of warping through space and time and as a result, move from non-canon to non-canon universes)
Basically: if it didn't happen in the main story mode (or in the case of Kirby Super Star/Ultra, everything but the sub games, boss rushes and Meta Knightmare Ultra), its non-canon.
Spoilers for Forgotten Land:
That is the only game that (as far as we know) has a canonical post game and True Arena, as the main story mode references those events.
@@JLMetak Isn't Heroes from Another Dimension in Star Allies also canon since it brings up what happened to Hyness and the Three Mage Sisters after the battle with Void Termina?
@@tjwoobie58bailey28 Oh yeah, I guess that one is.
Actually, the battle with Void is non-canon since it takes place in Soul Melter DX, which is also non-canon. However, the existence of Void, as well as its connection with the ancients and Jambastion, and its reincarnation into Void Termina from the main story are canon.
Pwotagonists!
I didn't know Nicholas Cage was in National Treasure!
Maybe im one of the few who did legit love Donkey Kong 64
Heck i even fully completed the game and got everything.Does it have major issues?yes it does but i still enjoy dk64 a lot
I actually really liked it too. I just don't bother with collecting everything I don't need to get.
I experienced the same tedium with 100% ing Mario Odyssey cause you start to see a lot of filler/unimpressive Moons to get, these games are more fun when you do all the levels available.
Your not "one of the few" your in the majority.
As someone who's 101% the N64 and Wii U version of DK64... Yeah its not really that good, but it's a guilty pleasure of mine. I love me some N64 Rareware platformers lmaoo
I disagree I think it's a great game
Also, make Tooka Laylee, stat. The people demand it.
No none of the extra modes are canon. They may explain lore but the events themselves aren’t canon
I don’t care what HAL says, the extra modes will always be canon to me, damn it.
Even if they contradict things...
I just like ignoring that.
@@SonicmaniaVideos just have it be the vortex from Forgotten Land, which I thought of before that game.
I always assumed Meta Knightmare in Super Star Ultra was canon, along with Marx Soul being the "Final Showdown" of Milkyway Wishes, even though you fight him in True Arena.
Holy shit, this is a late upload.
This was a fun little romp back through a Kirby game. I can't wait for the eventual Kirby and the Forgotten Land playthrough. I think one of the major problems Yooka-Laylee had was trying to stay too true to the old Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie format. Tooie, while a fun game, can be a bit too big for it for its own good.
So DK64 playthrough someday?
To be fair on yugioh We've seen in the past that that game was based off of ancient Egyptian whales summoning monsters. Some dumb-ass thought Hey let's turn this into a children's card game what can possibly go wrong.
And some of the monsters are real and will kill you.
I cant imagine thinking DK 64 is trash. And I thought Ted and bad opinions
I look at my ginormous backlog and sometimes wanna go back to a simpler time where I only had a handful of games that I in turn played the HELL out and loved to death because they were all I had and I only got new games occasionally. I mean my big collection today is a result of me compensating for all the games I wish I had back then, but now that I have so many, I’m drowning in my own hobby.
DK64 is a good game with too much shit.
That's probably the nest way to put it
I’m getting really tired of Ted’s only reaction to everything being that it’s dumb.
But he's not wrong, though. We can enjoy something and still acknowledge how dumb it is.
@@smashmaster521 But who are you to call it dumb? Who dictates or sets the standard for what is dumb? You could argue that the concept of giant mutated turtles who know karate is dumb, which Ted has also proclaimed. I personally don’t think so, I think it’s genious and a really creative idea. I think dumb is a really condescending term, so I try to refrain from using it, instead acknowledging things like Transformers, Ninja Turtles, Yu-Gi-Oh! etc as not dumb, cuz I don’t think it is, but fun and clever.
I’m sorry but donkey Kong 64 is not as bad as you guys make it out to be
It's not bad at all
I've never played DK64 I'll take you're word that it's not good
Rareware made some amazing games in their early days, but by the late N64 era most of their best devs had left, and the quality of their games was steadily decreasing (how many people actually like Conker's gameplay?) Nintendo made the right choice to sell them off when they did, I don't think Kameo or Nuts and Bolts would've saved the GameCube.
I like Conker. I can't wait for it to come to N64 Online.
Hot take: I don't think any Rare game from the N64 Era gets above decent, among the ones I have reasonable exposure to. Banjo is charming aesthetically but shit like the N64 Notes (which I judge by as the approach they released as finished before), a lot of tedious Jiggy tasks, and a final boss that looks horseshit in some phases stand out as problems, and then Tooie amplified my issues while the humor became a lot more mean-spirited sarcasm that I didn't find charming either. Meanwhile Conker is the blandest platformer I've ever seen if the raunchy humor isn't new or entertaining for you, which in a lot of cases feels like it's just the one joke of "cartoony animal characters cursing/shitting/dying in bloody manner" throughout.
I feel like Rare's biggest contributions were DKC, and the N64 was given higher praise because the console had basically nothing besides First Party and 2nd Party games like Rare's to compete for attention. Yooka-Laylee is the experience of going back to a game you played as a kid and realizing "this isn't as good as I remember", except it's a game you haven't played before that's emulating that style.
15:27 So Kirby the Forgotten Land really _is_ the worst Kirby game!
I love Banjo Kazooie, like Tooie even more and hated DK64. Even when playing DK64 at peak performance on an emulator it's boring as hell. I've yet to play Yooka Laylee because it sounds underwhelming.
Donkey Kong 64 is okay, but *@&% trying to 100% it, it’s worse about that than Super Mario Sunshine.
“This mushroom holds reality together.”
“I’ma eat it.”
*”NOOOOO-“*
Oh hey, it’s the Kirby’s Brass Band music.
Good old Miracle Matter. There’s a reason we’ve never gotten another boss that forces you to go without an ability; it’s absolutely _brutal,_ and kind of a difficulty spike with how easy these games are if you aren’t going for 100%.
Kirby called for help! But his friends are useless…
Zero was the only thing in the series that bled until Kirby: Triple Deluxe, where Dark Meta Knight sheds blood in his intro _for some reason._
Yeah, I will agree that Donkey Kong 64 just has not aged well. I enjoyed it as a kid as I didn't have many games and 3D platformers were still relatively new in the late 90's. The novelty has worn off and it actually gets really tedious. It just has many poorly designed sections and throws in many mini-games that aren't even fun to play. Banjo-Tooie is better overall but still has many of the fundamental flaws of DK64. Areas are too big and are a chore to complete (with needless backtracking). I actually think Banjo-Kazooie is far superior to either DK64 or Tooie. It only had a few things to collect, faster pacing, much less backtracking, and levels were much easier to navigate in general as they were smaller.
Yooka-Laylee may have been made by former Rare developers, but it felt like even a huge step back from Kazooie. I'm guessing it was probably rushed and had less budget, but the game just felt like a half-baked fan project. It just had some really poor game design choices and didn't even follow some of game design fundamentals that made Kazooie a success. I'll argue Kazooie still holds up as a solid game even now, but DK64, Tooie and Yooka-Laylee actually prove that bigger doesn't make things better (or even fun).
BONUS GAME!!!
@@u.dplaythroughs8486 *WELCOME TO BONUS STAGE!* It felt like DK64's mini-games were just kind of crammed in to pad out the game for more bananas. Some of them were just abysmal to play! 😅
Mario Odyssey shows a bigger exploration and collectathon can be done well and fun. But a lot of careful attention, modernization and polish to the player's journey needs to be done to account for everything within the bigger space, which Yooka Laylee seems to not have done in some areas for various reasons wheter it be time/budget, getting used to the Unity engine or being too conservative to old, aged game design principles. So I wouldn't be quick to write off the idea that quickly cause a few executions of it haven't been done well.
Yooka-Laylee, being a reskin of Banjo-Kazooie and made by the exact same people who made Banjo-Kazooie, proves that Banjo-Kazooie was NEVER good in the first place and Banjo never should have been put into Smash just to appease a very SMALL fanbase.
Very small? Dude, Banjo Kazooie is Rareware's golden child. There's nothing niche about that series. Despite Nuts & Bolts, the N64 games are still very popular. Just sounds like you being a Debbie Downer. Also, Yooka Laylee is overhated.
@@jlev1028 It's SMALL. Don't act like Banjo is on the same level as Mario and all of Nintendo's other IPs at the time. There's nothing groundbreaking about it. It just exists.
Or you could just say "The only good Banjo game is the first" and just be on with your day
@@ddd7038 So you'd want to lie. Okay, got it.
Yooka laylee isn't a reskin, it's just worse. Banjo made it in to smash because people have consistently asked for him since the very first game and the only reason he didn't make it in earlier was because of the Rare sale. It was a long time coming.
4:10 DK64 is only good when you're watching someone else stream it and they're doing it for charity to help trans folks in the UK.
4:50 TF2 devs: "oh no, I wouldn't do that if I were you; that's a load-bearing [picture of a] coconut"