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if you fly that scorpion in an arena match you will NOT be number one or even 3rd .. flying multi crew ships that size solo makes you dogfood .. and mastermodes suck its invented to protect carebears so they can run all day and seeing this video .. your opponent was a friend and you 2 set this up because anyone else would have QT'd out on the first time he used Nav mode
@alexderegt3925 I assure you, a total random guy. They're just that slow lol. Also, there's another person in my ship. They just can't turn the turret on fast enough in between switches.
@@FoeLIVE your full of it you dont have to turn the turret on every time you just enter it with a button push if he cant do that he shouldnt be playing games
@@michaelnuttall374 they also circle it, putting all their shots into every shield face, instead of picking on side and attacking it. They also constantly waste capacitor shooting when they're not on target..
Trying to target a moving target that traveling a lot faster that you is fairly difficult and granted shotting a single face down would be the way forward however the statement about it not being fun or cinematic still stands for me 😕
@@SharpEdgeSoda I think MM can be good but without talking about the issues it will never change and it's not just myself having problems, some of the players I use to play with have just stopped playing and are waiting for it to be in a state where it fun again, sorry to blather on a bit, it may be a "just get good scrub" for me and my friends but It just doesn't feel like it's a player problem🤔
Bro it's painful to watch you complain about the C2 being tanky while swapping your aim between the different shield faces.. Like, physically painful. I'm not sure you're qualified to talk about this topic if you don't even have a grasp on the basics
He never was, Foe is an absolute clown. He will sit there and smack complete bobs in the PU like this C2 pilot and think that puts him in the same caliber as Arena Commander sweats, but when he finds someone in AC that kicks his teeth in, he runs away. We've ran into him a couple times in Arena Commander and as soon as you kill him a couple times he always leaves the lobby. He even tried challenging my org to a fight but then turned around and asked another org to fight in their place. What's ironic is he made a retarded video saying that "Ohh man this game made it too easy to grief players by making it easy to kill non-combat ships" and yet a month later here he is bitching that he's struggling to kill a Hercules because he didn't bring someone in a Mantis on top of the fact that Herc pilot was incredibly incompetent.
I agree with your takes and the "problems" or "imperfections" you're showing. I also don't think you're all that bad at piloting either, and seem competent enough to have a weighty opinion. However I do think your opinion is skewed too far, so I'll share my own opinion frankly, as a sign of respect. You don't strike me as someone who hides from opposing thoughts, so I will share them. You note how tanky the A2 is, and how annoying that chase was. Agreed on both ends. However, it needs to be tanky, and chasing should be difficult. What would be the alternative? A slower ship has zero realistic chance against a more maneuverable ship in PVP. It was worse in the prior model: whoever's ship just turned faster was invincible against the slower ship. Warden again an Arrow? Give up. That's all the game was. Show up in a light fighter or don't PVP. It was obnoxious. Light fighter pilots had a strange expectation that everyone should also want to be in light fighters for PVP, when we don't. (I know you're not in a LIGHT fighter in this scenario, but I'm just giving an example. Compared to the A2, you're certainly a far lighter fighter regardless.) So are you're suggesting that in this encounter you should have been able to destroy the A2 far quicker, and doggidly chase it more easily? That's extremely unfair. You should not have the expectation that you should be able to fly around willy nilly and instantly defeat anything you want to off cuff. Fighters should see a large ship (like a heavily militarized warship like an A2) and be calling for backup, not thinking "I got this by myself, gimme ten seconds." The best word I have for that expectation is "cartoony." However, again, it IS a bit too tanky. And the movement DOES have too many buttons, and it IS frustrating and it SHOULD have been easier to chase it down a little bit. However I also believe that something needs to be done to give larger ships a snowballs chance in hell against a fighter. They do have turrets and one can make the expectation that to fly a large ship you should have crew, and crew should turret. But I've still never been realistically threatened by a fully crewed A2 or the equivalent while in an even slightly faster ship. And again, if that expectation is on the larger ship (to have turret crews), then the expectation should be on the fighters to attack in squads against larger targets and not expect to gundown a massive warship with a lone single-seat fighter in under a minute. The travel has a lot of major pros over the last iteration, but it is a lot of switching and clicking, and I think there has to be a better way than this model, OR the last model.
Foe's buddy: "Why do you like Star Citizen, Foe?" Foe: "I get to shoot people down in ships not designed for combat in my ship designed for combat." Foe's buddy: "So it's like if you were 17 and liked to drive down to the Jr. High and pick fights with kids on bikes while you were in a car?" Foe: "100%"
@@FoeLIVE So chasing a bomber in space is akin to attacking a ship not designed for space combat in a ship designed for space combat. I believe my point still stands. I saw bombers in space in Episode VIII of Star Wars. Useless.
Not really his turret gunner or another friend should be a in a QED ship. a C2 is like a 3-4 person ship. But idk i'll have to simmer on it for a while.
Wow…struggles to take down an uncrewed C2 for over 5 minutes, doesn’t know how to merge/focus on one shield wall, and than complains about the game……..Bobby alert
This shit is why in elite dangerous you have an interdictor. Cant run if you get interdicted, atleast not for a bit. tbf only ever used it on AI so no clue how well it works in PVP. I asume you dont have something like that in SC or you just dont have it on this ship I guess.
So.ive got to tell you.this interaction is quite obviously staged. I couldn't tell at first if you were bad at combat or if you were being disingenuous. It may be both. This video is in no way indicative of the way a scenario like this would actually play out.youre obviously just jumping on the " I hate master modes" bandwagon to try and fit in. From what I'm seeing,you'd get absolutely eaten alive in AC. be better than this dude.this video is so cringe.
@spacebro91 Alan Turing helped Crack the Nazi's code and essentially built the world's first computer. He was gay. There are many reasons to dislike MM that has nothing to do with the creator's sexual orientation
@@FoeLIVE its a good point. But one is a acomplishment, the other a downgrade. And about the sexual orientation, I'll mock everyone who openly, without reason, is flashing signs that he loves a bat in the trunk...
@@FoeLIVE Its an ok point yuo're making but, MM sux and its yogis fault. About his "orientation"...I dont care, but he waves that he loves a bat in the trunk without need, reason or point. Was Alex Turing like that?
@@spacebro91 Quite the opposite. Alan was forced to hide his homosexuality for much of his life due to the laws and societal attitudes of the time. He was given a choice between imprisonment and probation, which included undergoing hormonal treatment to reduce libido. This ultimately contributed to his untimely death. So I'd much rather people express themselves however they want to.
"I was not good at the previous flight model" Proceeds to show us he is not good at the current flight model as well.
1v1 me :-3
if you fly that scorpion in an arena match you will NOT be number one or even 3rd .. flying multi crew ships that size solo makes you dogfood .. and mastermodes suck its invented to protect carebears so they can run all day and seeing this video .. your opponent was a friend and you 2 set this up because anyone else would have QT'd out on the first time he used Nav mode
@alexderegt3925 I assure you, a total random guy. They're just that slow lol. Also, there's another person in my ship. They just can't turn the turret on fast enough in between switches.
@@FoeLIVE your full of it you dont have to turn the turret on every time you just enter it with a button push if he cant do that he shouldnt be playing games
@alexderegt3925 He literally has to engage and wait every time.
Top 3? Number 1? At what? Out of how many? Against whom?
@@McFearsome2 just in an average arena commander match. Edits may have taken that context out. Nothing special
It should be hard for a solo pirate to take a C2. That's actually right. Get a friend or a QED.
He wasn't solo though, he had a gunner so that would be 8x size 3 but either way that game play loop doesn't look fun or cinematic to me 😅
@@michaelnuttall374 they also circle it, putting all their shots into every shield face, instead of picking on side and attacking it. They also constantly waste capacitor shooting when they're not on target..
Trying to target a moving target that traveling a lot faster that you is fairly difficult and granted shotting a single face down would be the way forward however the statement about it not being fun or cinematic still stands for me 😕
@@michaelnuttall374 The old one didn't either. No MM haters want to admit this.
@@SharpEdgeSoda I think MM can be good but without talking about the issues it will never change and it's not just myself having problems, some of the players I use to play with have just stopped playing and are waiting for it to be in a state where it fun again, sorry to blather on a bit, it may be a "just get good scrub" for me and my friends but It just doesn't feel like it's a player problem🤔
ever heard of a QED? makes all your weird tactic redundand
wait, qed now prevents people from going fast with hydrogen thrusters ?
@@satanicdude the dampener yes thr snare no
@@satanicdude no, it stops QD from spooling, which is necessary for NAV mode speeds.
very immersive, I guess now that the talent at CIG left, they are just pulling shit out of their asses as they go.
@@satanicdude You're definitely a newer backer. This is how the flight model used to be years ago.
Bro it's painful to watch you complain about the C2 being tanky while swapping your aim between the different shield faces.. Like, physically painful.
I'm not sure you're qualified to talk about this topic if you don't even have a grasp on the basics
He never was, Foe is an absolute clown. He will sit there and smack complete bobs in the PU like this C2 pilot and think that puts him in the same caliber as Arena Commander sweats, but when he finds someone in AC that kicks his teeth in, he runs away. We've ran into him a couple times in Arena Commander and as soon as you kill him a couple times he always leaves the lobby. He even tried challenging my org to a fight but then turned around and asked another org to fight in their place.
What's ironic is he made a retarded video saying that "Ohh man this game made it too easy to grief players by making it easy to kill non-combat ships" and yet a month later here he is bitching that he's struggling to kill a Hercules because he didn't bring someone in a Mantis on top of the fact that Herc pilot was incredibly incompetent.
I agree with your takes and the "problems" or "imperfections" you're showing. I also don't think you're all that bad at piloting either, and seem competent enough to have a weighty opinion. However I do think your opinion is skewed too far, so I'll share my own opinion frankly, as a sign of respect. You don't strike me as someone who hides from opposing thoughts, so I will share them.
You note how tanky the A2 is, and how annoying that chase was. Agreed on both ends. However, it needs to be tanky, and chasing should be difficult. What would be the alternative? A slower ship has zero realistic chance against a more maneuverable ship in PVP. It was worse in the prior model: whoever's ship just turned faster was invincible against the slower ship. Warden again an Arrow? Give up. That's all the game was. Show up in a light fighter or don't PVP. It was obnoxious. Light fighter pilots had a strange expectation that everyone should also want to be in light fighters for PVP, when we don't. (I know you're not in a LIGHT fighter in this scenario, but I'm just giving an example. Compared to the A2, you're certainly a far lighter fighter regardless.)
So are you're suggesting that in this encounter you should have been able to destroy the A2 far quicker, and doggidly chase it more easily? That's extremely unfair. You should not have the expectation that you should be able to fly around willy nilly and instantly defeat anything you want to off cuff. Fighters should see a large ship (like a heavily militarized warship like an A2) and be calling for backup, not thinking "I got this by myself, gimme ten seconds." The best word I have for that expectation is "cartoony."
However, again, it IS a bit too tanky. And the movement DOES have too many buttons, and it IS frustrating and it SHOULD have been easier to chase it down a little bit. However I also believe that something needs to be done to give larger ships a snowballs chance in hell against a fighter. They do have turrets and one can make the expectation that to fly a large ship you should have crew, and crew should turret. But I've still never been realistically threatened by a fully crewed A2 or the equivalent while in an even slightly faster ship. And again, if that expectation is on the larger ship (to have turret crews), then the expectation should be on the fighters to attack in squads against larger targets and not expect to gundown a massive warship with a lone single-seat fighter in under a minute.
The travel has a lot of major pros over the last iteration, but it is a lot of switching and clicking, and I think there has to be a better way than this model, OR the last model.
@SepulcherGeist oh I'm fine with it being tanky. It's the combination of tankiness while completely removing my weapons when I chase.
Also, if this thing was crewed, it'd be very difficult to kill as is.
Hmm, you need to practice more.
How many of you were cheering for Enigmagic?
Where is your interdictor ship?
Foe's buddy: "Why do you like Star Citizen, Foe?"
Foe: "I get to shoot people down in ships not designed for combat in my ship designed for combat."
Foe's buddy: "So it's like if you were 17 and liked to drive down to the Jr. High and pick fights with kids on bikes while you were in a car?"
Foe: "100%"
@DaringDan The A2 is a BOMBER. LOL. This is just a demonstration anyway, it's not something I actively do.
@@FoeLIVE So chasing a bomber in space is akin to attacking a ship not designed for space combat in a ship designed for space combat.
I believe my point still stands. I saw bombers in space in Episode VIII of Star Wars. Useless.
that is so stupid
Not really his turret gunner or another friend should be a in a QED ship. a C2 is like a 3-4 person ship. But idk i'll have to simmer on it for a while.
Wow…struggles to take down an uncrewed C2 for over 5 minutes, doesn’t know how to merge/focus on one shield wall, and than complains about the game……..Bobby alert
This shit is why in elite dangerous you have an interdictor. Cant run if you get interdicted, atleast not for a bit. tbf only ever used it on AI so no clue how well it works in PVP. I asume you dont have something like that in SC or you just dont have it on this ship I guess.
There is a ship that does that. Foe is just whining because he's not using the proper tools for the job.
So.ive got to tell you.this interaction is quite obviously staged. I couldn't tell at first if you were bad at combat or if you were being disingenuous. It may be both. This video is in no way indicative of the way a scenario like this would actually play out.youre obviously just jumping on the " I hate master modes" bandwagon to try and fit in. From what I'm seeing,you'd get absolutely eaten alive in AC. be better than this dude.this video is so cringe.
@@GBrai-mu5zy like it or not, this happened in the verse organically. >.
@@FoeLIVE lol you kind of have to stick to that story now,I get it. 🤣🤥🫡
@@GBrai-mu5zy Have you never encountered a total Bob before? If I wanted to stage something, I'd make it much more entertaining than this.
Yogy (dude with rainbow flag) made a flight model that is gay as hell...supriseee
@spacebro91 Alan Turing helped Crack the Nazi's code and essentially built the world's first computer. He was gay.
There are many reasons to dislike MM that has nothing to do with the creator's sexual orientation
@@FoeLIVE its a good point. But one is a acomplishment, the other a downgrade. And about the sexual orientation, I'll mock everyone who openly, without reason, is flashing signs that he loves a bat in the trunk...
@@FoeLIVE Its an ok point yuo're making but, MM sux and its yogis fault. About his "orientation"...I dont care, but he waves that he loves a bat in the trunk without need, reason or point. Was Alex Turing like that?
@@spacebro91 Quite the opposite.
Alan was forced to hide his homosexuality for much of his life due to the laws and societal attitudes of the time.
He was given a choice between imprisonment and probation, which included undergoing hormonal treatment to reduce libido. This ultimately contributed to his untimely death.
So I'd much rather people express themselves however they want to.
You sound like a real quality fuckwit Spacebro