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How many of you were cheering for Enigmagic?

So.ive got to tell you.this interaction is quite obviously staged. I couldn't tell at first if you were bad at combat or if you were being disingenuous. It may be both. This video is in no way indicative of the way a scenario like this would actually play out.youre obviously just jumping on the " I hate master modes" bandwagon to try and fit in. From what I'm seeing,you'd get absolutely eaten alive in AC. be better than this dude.this video is so cringe.

This shit is why in elite dangerous you have an interdictor. Cant run if you get interdicted, atleast not for a bit. tbf only ever used it on AI so no clue how well it works in PVP. I asume you dont have something like that in SC or you just dont have it on this ship I guess.

Where is your interdictor ship?

Hmm, you need to practice more.

Wow…struggles to take down an uncrewed C2 for over 5 minutes, doesn’t know how to merge/focus on one shield wall, and than complains about the game……..Bobby alert

Foe's buddy: "Why do you like Star Citizen, Foe?" Foe: "I get to shoot people down in ships not designed for combat in my ship designed for combat." Foe's buddy: "So it's like if you were 17 and liked to drive down to the Jr. High and pick fights with kids on bikes while you were in a car?" Foe: "100%"

MM is stupid...that is all

If you are looking for a challenging 6DOF PvPvE space/atmo flight game I suggest you try Infinity Battlescape. It is close to launch now and pretty dialed in. I played in their event last weekend and had a blast. The old model was a gimmick. It was totally loopsided in favor of a narrow meta, to the point where other classes were effectively nullified. It was fun, inasmuch as you didn't deviate from the Meta, but SC is about a lot more than the light fighters alone. While master modes still needs work, it is a step back to the excellent mode we had on 2.6, which was in my opinion, the best small/medium ship light mode SC ever had (though even then it was unfinished).

Bro it's painful to watch you complain about the C2 being tanky while swapping your aim between the different shield faces.. Like, physically painful. I'm not sure you're qualified to talk about this topic if you don't even have a grasp on the basics

I agree with your takes and the "problems" or "imperfections" you're showing. I also don't think you're all that bad at piloting either, and seem competent enough to have a weighty opinion. However I do think your opinion is skewed too far, so I'll share my own opinion frankly, as a sign of respect. You don't strike me as someone who hides from opposing thoughts, so I will share them. You note how tanky the A2 is, and how annoying that chase was. Agreed on both ends. However, it needs to be tanky, and chasing should be difficult. What would be the alternative? A slower ship has zero realistic chance against a more maneuverable ship in PVP. It was worse in the prior model: whoever's ship just turned faster was invincible against the slower ship. Warden again an Arrow? Give up. That's all the game was. Show up in a light fighter or don't PVP. It was obnoxious. Light fighter pilots had a strange expectation that everyone should also want to be in light fighters for PVP, when we don't. (I know you're not in a LIGHT fighter in this scenario, but I'm just giving an example. Compared to the A2, you're certainly a far lighter fighter regardless.) So are you're suggesting that in this encounter you should have been able to destroy the A2 far quicker, and doggidly chase it more easily? That's extremely unfair. You should not have the expectation that you should be able to fly around willy nilly and instantly defeat anything you want to off cuff. Fighters should see a large ship (like a heavily militarized warship like an A2) and be calling for backup, not thinking "I got this by myself, gimme ten seconds." The best word I have for that expectation is "cartoony." However, again, it IS a bit too tanky. And the movement DOES have too many buttons, and it IS frustrating and it SHOULD have been easier to chase it down a little bit. However I also believe that something needs to be done to give larger ships a snowballs chance in hell against a fighter. They do have turrets and one can make the expectation that to fly a large ship you should have crew, and crew should turret. But I've still never been realistically threatened by a fully crewed A2 or the equivalent while in an even slightly faster ship. And again, if that expectation is on the larger ship (to have turret crews), then the expectation should be on the fighters to attack in squads against larger targets and not expect to gundown a massive warship with a lone single-seat fighter in under a minute. The travel has a lot of major pros over the last iteration, but it is a lot of switching and clicking, and I think there has to be a better way than this model, OR the last model.

We went from immersive space sim to everyday run of the mill console schlock with magic space air. (regarding the flight model) I mean I get it jousting was bad and all, but how is 90% of the playerbase ok with this braindead retarded shit ?

Yogy (dude with rainbow flag) made a flight model that is gay as hell...supriseee

that is so stupid

It should be hard for a solo pirate to take a C2. That's actually right. Get a friend or a QED.

Top 3? Number 1? At what? Out of how many? Against whom?

ever heard of a QED? makes all your weird tactic redundand

"I was not good at the previous flight model" Proceeds to show us he is not good at the current flight model as well.

Nerfed again. nav mode, blab mode, drag mode.

Who the fuck records in 360p wtf. i felt like i was watching a TV show off a TV that sits on the floor with lots of wood around it and built in speakers.

"Ace Pilot" 🤣

How in the world do you get the little "sidebars" on your tagetting pip? I only have the circle

RIP, skill ceiling

Hello from Red Baron

Clean this is why you take the training course before you fly a military ship

Had a similar experience, though it was a connie and a vanguard harbinger who tried to(and failed miserably) gank me by surprise. And I am a player that isn't all that interested in "gitting gud" in PvP, kinda boring when my opponent will cheat if they could get away with it, instead of playing honorably. They never made it back to tell the tale.. What idiots, probably didn't even look before shooting.

That is not grief game play. Just pvp. Not in a hanger, not in a full city. Shooting distortions at a player so he is nocked down but takes no damage for 10min..grief. Blowing up ships still in a hanger...grief. Ship ramming on pads or in hangers...grief. Once out it is just PvP. Attacking in armistice zones don't count as grief and never will. Armistice has never ment 100% safe zone. CIG pointed this out years ago😒

Preach!

Maybe Nav Mode should give you 50% shields.

are there no armistice zones near stations ?? why can it just let you shoot

I've been playing for two weeks, and I've never been griefed like this ? Sure the potential might be there but I don't feel like this is really a concern atm. Games were designed like this long ago, something like Lineage 2 comes to mind, and sure, we'd get an asshole once in a blue moon, doesn't mean griefers defined the experience ? Top comment is "Not very friendly to new players", I don't know about that, I don't think my 6000 hp shield on my C1 would make a difference here, there's a lot of things to tackle before this to make game "friendly to new players", but I don't think it's the goal of this game, looks like it's made more to cater to people who are really invested in it and will play it forever. To be clear, I don't think it's necessarily good that it works like this rn, but I don't think it's as bad as you and others make it out to be ? Grief I get looks more like someone ramming me with a connie as am coming out of tressler and they've always missed so far, lol, or someone hopping into my ship and leaving with it because I left door open. I've only been killed in cold blood like this once on foot while running a distribution center mission.

The title is wrong. What you show here happens not because of MM, the same thing could be done before MM. Problem of griefing starts with "non-concensual" pvp as a choice of game design. In SC you can attack anyone, almost anywhere and disrupt their gameplay without disrupting your own. Griefing in SC is cheap and accessible, this is the problem. Also people who land in NAV mode 0:46 are destined to be victims in such a gamedesign. No shields will save them.

They are just paying cost of stupidity

About your loadout, have your tired M5As and M6As on the hornet, been wondering if they any good in PVP with the Hornets speed and close fighting?

MM got a bad rap from cannon and MK2 metas....they fumbled the release.

who in their right mind even stays in Nav mode when trying to land? The minute I'm within 1-2km if the hanger I'm in SCM

I don't want to be like 200 meters from a ship when I'm fighting and then it's just a dps race..plus having to physically push a button while in combat to switch modes constantly is just restarded..like who is heading up the vision on this because they're blind.

I'm just commenting on this to say im a big fan of MM to offset everyone elses hatred for it, lol. I do agree that the TTK is too fast with sheilds down, though.

Honestly they need to turn on Shields in nav mode until they get maelstrom and armor implemented. I can understand why they don't want shields in nav mode, but only in the context of armor and maelstrom.

Makes no sense to have no shields i nav mode, why not?!?!?! just stupid and unrealistic. masermodes is going to ruin the game. its just stupid - no amount of ajustments can fix it. master modes is just flawed from the ground up, the whole concept makes no sense.

I agree with you Foe. CIG implement things without testing it enough and missing all the consequences that follow. The same thing will happen with the engineering that they want to implement. They over complicate it and it will consume so much of out time that we will be vulnerable to these situations. Same thing will also happen when it comes to death of a spaceman. It feels like they are trying to over complicate the whole game experience. There are too many chiefs in the CIG kitchen, and not 1 head chief. Don't get me wrong I want the game to be great. Keep NAV mode with shields and you still gain more speed lets say you have access to 60%-75% of your speed but if you drop your shields |manually) you will get 100% access to your speed / thrusters.

What a shit take- backer of 10 years. Skill issue nerds can keep crying

I dont see the concern here, if you are out near a station with shields down ur just asking for it.

we need passive shield on big ship...if we want this..

One thing I agree with is that NAV mode should not drop shields.

I think you're highlighting something else entirely. Yes, there is a bit of an issue with having the default arrival state being no shields and defenseless, but you've more shown that TTK is so fucking low as to be a joke. Don't get me wrong, strong fighter you're in, but that Connie has 20k hp on its vital parts, it doesn't pop easy... until 4 seconds pass from shots. It's a problem I've had with this game for a while, but we're still plowing headlong toward physical damage and other factors in the combat so people let it pass. But I'd rather keep bringing it up, fighters are overgunned, gunships are underdefended, and everything dies way too damn quickly.

See griefing is easy

MM is such a sad way to try to recreate atmo WW2 dogfighting dynamics in space where it shouldn't belong. They should be increasing range of lasers/missiles etc and increasing your zoom/scopes ability to approach something vaugely believable, as opposed to essentially making it seem like you are flying in 10x concentrated atmospheric drag. It needs a lot of design consideration...but frankly such velocity limiting in space just seems so silly to me

Back in 322 I predicted this would happen to large ships using missiles, but CIG nerfed them to prevent this. But it will happen whenever they get around to giving them teeth again. The game is such a mess now, I'm honestly expecting it to close shop and liquidate. Scam karma is catching up at last, and CR has enough to retire and maybe pay off his investors - its a good time to bail.

Keep it up. Grief as hard as you can, and suggest that everyone you know do it too. Force the issue with CIG.