Not Allied stupidity. Hustle gets it right, the Allies were simply not prepared for war, not physically nor (especially) mentally. It takes months if not a year or two for a nation to switch out of its peacetime footing.
There's a lot more to it. The French had hundreds of fighter planes that were at least as good as the Hawker Hurricane. The MS 406, D 520, MB 155 and 300 Curtis Hawk 75. Not as fast as the ME 109 but still capable of shooting down any German bomber and with a decent pilot, and giving German fighters a hard time. The French air force was hampered by their distribution into "zones" so that figher strength couldn't be concentrated and a very poor system of directing French planes to where they were needed. Yes, the French had 3 armored divisions with the Char B1, with a 4th thrown together later. But, the French also had four "Light" divisions. "Light" in this case meaning fast...not lightly armed or armored. These had the Souma S-35s and were equal in strength to a Panzer division. Also, there were about seven mechanized calvary divisions with light tanks and armored cars. The Light Divisions stopped the German advance in their tracks in Belgium at the battle of Hannut and Gemboux Gap (sorry if I misspelled those) with the Germans losing significantly more tanks. This is the first major clash of modern AFV and still one of the largest with 1500 or so armored vehicles participating. The French, British and Belgians were doing pretty good in Belgium until the German breakthrough at Sedan forced the Allies to have to retreat from Belgium to avoid encirclement. The retreat caused breakdowns of communication and supply. A lot of French armor was abandoned because of lack of fuel. German planes blasting supply columns added to the bad situation. Could the Allies have won in 1940? The answer is Yes. They had what they needed. It was how it was all used ...or not used that led to defeat. If you really study it ...100% of the blame rests on the French High Command. The Old Guard. France had forward thinkers like de Gaulle ...but they did not have the power to override the bad decisions of the Old Guard.
some senior French commanders were appalling. Gamelin was apolitical general who'd been pals with former pm Daladier. he was in his 60s and locked himself away in a castle with no direct radio or telephone communication with his field commanders. all messages went by motorcycle courier. it could take 24 hours for an order to reach a commander and him to then act on it. meanwhile German panzer units were moving at a moment's notice.
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@@waynesworldofsci-tech The man who Heinz Gudarian would read and put those very principles in place for his own book on Armoured Warfare Doctrine, "Actung Panzer" I was going to make mention of Liddell-Heart in my first post, but I just couldn't think of his name at the time.
Excuse me as i'm searching through my notes for more of anything about this topic. Advanges France had in 1940: • the Maginot-Line covers the entire eastern frontier on metropolitian france (including the coasts of Corsica & a stratigic position somewhere on what is the republic of Tunisia) • An up to-date stockpile of military equipment, especially in aircraft and armour vechicles which outclassed most of what their adversaries had. • out of the allies in 1940, France had sent the mosy manpower to the frontlines, while the british only sent The BEF & RAF or the Benelux had enough for their own terrirory repetively. • • Unfortunate mishaps for the french military: • High consription persentage, so a big portion of their manpower were not professional soldiers. • HQ was plauged with some strife and in fighting, makes it hard to coordinate troop movements. • A combination of the command structure being very conservitive, and both not locating themselves close/nearer to each other and lacking of quicker communication methods. • overall strategy sabotaged by British foreign policies, which most importantly soured relations with Belgium when their military buffer in the rhine was gone on 1936. • french divisions hadn't got into the concept of combined arms warfare as much as the wehrmacht, a well known example is even though a unit of certain single-turret two-man tanks can outlast most of what the germans had that year, because panzer divisions can consist of a vast array of types, a panzer unit would have something capible to counter whatever the allies were fighting with, unlike the allies keeping their tanks grouped by type to make maintenece easier. •
Um, no. That’s a vast over simplification. The French government didn’t trust the army, and didn’t fund communications. The War Minister died in an air show crash where he was a spectator. He had a plan to change the uniform, which got put on hold while a replacement came up to speed. The minister’s death also crippled several updates to French forces. The one fort that the Germans broke through on the Maginot Line was incomplete. Someone had apparently been feeding French aircraft designers hallucinogenic drugs. And on, and on.
I find interesting that French General Charles Huntziger (an ethnic German) was the French commander of the very spot of the German breakthrough in 1940. Huntziger would become the Vichy Minister of War and was one of those responsible for Vichy anti-Semitic laws. One wonders whether Huntziger wanted the Germans to win against the Socialist government of the French Third Republic.
In hindsight no. The Germans were completely prepared. UK and France were not ready militarily or politically despite the warnings. Why on earth didn't the UK/France attack Germany in Sept 1939 while the bulk of the Wehrmacht was in Poland?
The Germans did have prepared defenses that would have been difficult to break through and the Allies were still hoping there could be a negotiated settlement instead of a repeat of WW1
I watched a video on this subject by "Histoire sur Carte" (History on Map) here on TH-cam in which a detailed explanation is given : "The Allies thought that Poland would resist longer, at least till the winter. From the 7th September 1939, the French launched an attack in Saarland in order to relieve Poland. The Germans had evacuated the area, civilians included, and had laid mines and booby traps everywhere. On the 18th, after an advance of about 10 km long by 25 km wide, the units stopped. They were a few kilometers from the Westwall, the western wall, which the French called the Siegfried Line. They encountered no resistance but suffered significant losses from the mines. On the 21st, Poland being virtually beaten, the French troops received the order to retreat to the Maginot Line. In any case, the French didn't have the artillery to breakthrough and couldn't envisage a serious attack on the Westwall, even with the reduce numbers left in the west by the Germans. On the 28th, Warsaw capitulated and on the 6th of October, the last Polish soldiers laid their weapons. The Germans immediately transferred their forces to the west for an offensive that Hitler wanted to launch as soon as possible. It didn't happen before May 1940 for different reasons."
Germans were not prepared either. The plan of the offensive was made on the last minute. Was very risky. The defenses build up on the west were on a much lower level than the Maginot line. It was the concept of how they used panzers and their Air Force. And a lot of good luck with the big gamble in the Ardennes
@@ErikLundgren-p5p You are now talking about the big gamble in the Ardennes. Apart from that I think the Germans were well prepared for this war : "In the past ten years, Germany has totally reorganized the order of its society in preparation for this war" - The Duke of Windsor, former king Edward VIII.
And the saddest part? The French had multiple opportunities during 1940 to achieve a victory. Their air reconnissance could've been believed when the reported large traffic jams in the Ardennes, and the Ardennes could've been bombed, destroying the German's main offensive, the bridges at sedan could've been retaken, the offensive through Lille could've worked, these are only a few of their pathways to victory, none we're taken, and the worst, and possibly the most unlikely option, the French surrender due to their low morale and poor leadership.
France (39 M) fought Germany (80 M) alone. France inflicted 120,000 losses on them in 5 weeks and destroyed 1/3 of their tanks. German military losses were proportionately higher than during the first 6 months of the war on the Russian front.
@@awesomebrawel4050 The Germans were more numerous against the French while the Russians were more numerous against the Germans. Plus the Russians had a huge territory to retreat to, which was not the case for the French.
Good synopsis of the Battle of France. I think the French 3 man tank and the reliance on phone communications with no doctrine for local commanders to make decisions when out of communication after phone lines are cut by bombing and shelling are the main reasons for French defeat. The French military was ready to fight a continuation war in 1920's, not 1940.
Churchill was a Francophile and worked throughout the war to promote France, and De Gaulle who he saw as the embodiment of a proud fighting France. US president Roosevelt however disliked De Gaulle and was worried he might set up a dictatorship when France liberated. At Casablanca big meeting the US preferred the Vichy Admiral Darlan instead , however he was assassinated by a Gaullist ( armed with a weapon supplied by Mi6 ) and US went over to supporting De Gaulle
Truly worthy of Churchill's legendary deceit, a compliment that implies that French troops failed in 1940: "I can't understand how such brave soldiers, fighting in various places at one against ten (sometimes even one against thirty), still manage to find enough strength to go on the assault: it's simply amazing ! I find among the French soldiers of Dunkirk the same ardour as that of the poilus of Verdun in 1916. For several days hundreds of bombers and guns have been pounding the French defences. However, it is still the same thing, our infantry and tanks cannot break through, despite some ephemeral local successes." "Dunkirk proves to me that the French soldier is one of the best in the world. The French artillery, so feared in 14-18, once again demonstrated its dreaded effectiveness. Our losses are terrifying: many battalions have lost 60% of their strength, sometimes even more! “ "By resisting about ten days to our forces, which were significantly superior in terms of numbers and resources, the French army achieved a superb feat in Dunkirk that is to be commended. It certainly saved Britain from defeat, by allowing its professional army to reach the English coast." General Von Küchler commandant of the XVIII army
The most sincere tribute to Bir Hakeim came not from the British but from the Germans: "Some British officers have insinuated that French morale gave way but in the whole course of the desert war, we never encountered a more heroic and well-sustained defence". Generalmajor Friedrich von Mellenthin Panzer Battles: A Study of the Employment of Armor in the Second World War 1956 "Bir Hakeim is a further proof of the thesis which I have always maintained, namely that the French are, after us, the best soldiers in Europe. After this war, it will be necessary for us to establish a coalition capable of containing militarily a country capable of accomplishing military prowess which astonish the world as at Bir Hakeim » Hit ler to the members of the German general staff in June 11, 1942 H itler’s assessment was notably expressed after the battle of Bir Hakeim (North Africa, May 26 to June 11, 1942), where 3,700 Frenchmen in the desert held 16 days against the Afrika Korps and its Italian allies, who numbered 37,000 men. At the same time, the Afrika Korps had switftly taken fortified Tobruk from the British and Canadian in spite of their numerical supériority.
Who cares, the us was supporting Vichy who was allied to Germany. During the time that darlant was still around in north Africa they were still repressing jews, Pl under the eyes of the us army. The same thing happened during the war of Algeria. De Gaulle wanted in dependence for the colonies, the cia funded the oas which tried to pull a purtsch. They never like de Gaulle because he didn't want France to become like Britain, a tool of the us. @@coling3957
The French fought very well and sacrificed their troops to allow the BEF and French forces to escape from Dunkirk, not all French troops were ready to surrender, De Gaulle would not surrender but the political class let down the French people which led to France surrendering 🇬🇧😎
@@seanlander9321 Oh! I see. Obviously not everyone thinks the same thing : "Stories that the French troops would not fight were not true. They had fought magnificently, but the organization behind them was totally inadequate. In the past ten years, Germany has totally reorganized the order of its society in preparation for this war. Countries which were unwilling to accept such a reorganization of society and concomitant sacrifices should direct their policies accordingly and thereby avoid dangerous adventure. This applies not merely to Europe, but to the United States also." The Duke of Windsor, former King Edward VIII.
@@seanlander9321 France (40 M) fought Germany (80 M) alone. France inflicted 120,000 losses on them in 5 weeks and destroyed 1/3 of their tanks. German military losses were proportionately higher than during the first 6 months of the war on the Russian front. "I can't understand how such brave soldiers, fighting in various places at one against ten (sometimes even one against thirty), still manage to find enough strength to go on the assault: it's simply amazing ! I find among the French soldiers of Dunkirk the same ardour as that of the poilus of Verdun in 1916. For several days hundreds of bombers and guns have been pounding the French defences. However, it is still the same thing, our infantry and tanks cannot break through, despite some ephemeral local successes." "Dunkirk proves to me that the French soldier is one of the best in the world. The French artillery, so feared in 14-18, once again demonstrated its dreaded effectiveness. Our losses are terrifying: many battalions have lost 60% of their strength, sometimes even more! “ "By resisting about ten days to our forces, which were significantly superior in terms of numbers and resources, the French army achieved a superb feat in Dunkirk that is to be commended. It certainly saved Britain from defeat, by allowing its professional army to reach the English coast." General Von Küchler commandant of the XVIII army
In comparison to the catastrophic mauling the Germans cheerfully visited upon the Russians under the aegis of ‘ Brest-Litovsk’, what was it, exactly, that was ‘unfair’ to the Germans ?…
Paul Reynaud was not President of France, it was Albert Lebrun who was Président de la République Française. Paul Reynaud was "Président du conseil des ministres", equivalent of Prime minister.
Hey Hustler. I have a question that may be a little bit off topic of this video. When Germany and Russia invaded Poland. England and France immediately declared war on Germany. Was there a secret protocol between the Russians England and France that would allow Russia to invade Poland and take over many of the countries up on the northern part of Europe without any intervention from France are a declaration of war from England? That is always confused me Russia and Germany were both equal aggressors as far as the invasion of Poland but the French English only declared war on one of the aggressors. I have always suspected that there was a secret deal or protocol between the English Russians and the French government that they would not intervene against Russia. What are your thoughts on this Hustler??
The Germans invaded Poland first. By then the UK and France had already declared war. The Soviet invasion could be seen as a reaction. In fact, the Soviet Union had offered Poland assistance with troops against German invasion. Poland refused that encouraged by UK. Then came the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. The whole mess was largely caused by UK foreign policy. And early alliance with the Soviet Union may have prevented WW2 altogether.
The Dewoitine D.520 was a new design and had a lot of teething problems. According to Greg Baughen in his book The Rise And Fall Of The French Airforce - "By 10th May, around 250 Dewoitine D.520 fighters had been built but fewer than 50 were ready for combat". Most of the French airforce, especially their bomber force, was anything but advanced.
Weird thing is the Allies had done a “Blitzkreig” vs the Germans in the 100 Days Campaign in 1918. I don’t think they had forgotten its lessons but were still banking on Germany & the USSR starting a war between themselves.
@@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 Reminds me of something; what is it about the Dutch and the way they despise Australia? The Australians made unbelievable sacrifices for the Dutch to return all its colonies from Japan and to provide government in exile, including critical banking facilities for Europe, but in return the Dutch gave the middle finger after a five fingered discount, then supported Europe (and still do) for the punitive trade embargo inflicted on Australia for generations.
Would it have made much difference if NL defended longer? Amsterdam, The Hague, maybe Utrecht all flattened like Rotterdam? May have given the Brits and French a few days more to reorganise but the end result would likely have been the same.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 A united defence would have been preferable to the humiliation of being rescued by others. Cowardice is a stain on the national character that lasts forever.
@@seanlander9321 - By declaring themselves neutral, the low countries prevented any mutual defence that might have worked. When invaded on 10 May, Belgium called for help and the Brits moved up from France, leaving behind fortified positions that might have been defensible. It was a dire mistake that pretty much sealed the fate of the entire 1940 campaign.
I read that there were both French and British generals that wanted to keep their forces much further back into France, away from the Northern borders, so that there would be more room to move about and more time to react. But the French govt. didn't want the Germans coming into France and fighting taking place on their territory causing destruction.
My ill educated take. France needs some significant changes to its command structure and more importantly its command attitude for things to play out different. Not trusting radio for local communications, kind of understandable considering WW1 experience, but robbed them of local flexibility. Huge logistical issues, with the units going into Belgium having resupply issues in fuel and oils for their tanks and trucks to the point that many vehicles were abandoned/destroyed by their vehicles when they ran out of fuel. Then the problems of the Army of the Air handed the Germans free movement behind their lines while robbing the French of the same.
Winston Churchill spoke vociferously before the out break of this war about the Hitler etc and pestered Britain to re-arm and what Hitler would do and not to be trusted 🇬🇧😎
The German army no doubt had a stunning capacity to capitalise on any opportunity. Commanders on all levels did not just await orders from above but acted in accordance with the intent of their superiors and local opportunities. But they were also very lucky. The events would only have had to be changed slightly and the Germans would be slowed enough for the French lines to "stiffen". If that had happened the tactical and operational advantage would suddenly been on French side. Not that the French would have overrun the Germans but the war would have turned in to an attritional war in which the allies very soon would be superior and in Germany Hitler would be viewed as a failure. They did plan for a major offensive in 1941 - the French army was rapidly growing in strength in sprong of 40 and it probably was the last moment for the Germans to have any chance of success. BTW the allied doctrines of late WWII were more like the French of 1940 than of the German - they just had more planes and radios, but still repied on firepower and detailed orders at all levels.
In 1918 the RAF and the Armée de l'Air threw every plane they had into stopping the kaiserschlacht and then supporting the allied advance. By 1940 the Germans had learned the lesson and created a tactical air force designed to support ground troops. The French and British had by that time been seduced by Douhet's theories that bombers could win the war on their own and kept most of their fighters back to defend cities that weren't being attacked. It also didn't help that the French withdrew 300 MS406 fighters from front line service on 1st May - 10 days before the German attack - intending to upgrade them to MS410s. It left the Luftwaffe with almost total air superiority over the front lines.
So where did all these polish units came from? I know that there were many that helped liberate the Netherlands. How did they leave when Poland was captured by Germany and Russia?
From October to December 1939, nearly 100,000 new Poles joined the contingent of 500,000 Poles already present on French soil since the signing of the Franco-Polish convention of September 3, 1919. These Poles will arrive in France after a long journey across Europe, mainly via camps set up in Romania. Among them, General Sikorski and the surviving soldiers of the Polish army but also many civilians. The city of Angers even became the capital of Poland in exile. Coëtquidan becomes the main center of the Polish army in France. Lyon will become the base for Polish pilots. In addition to tens of thousands of soldiers from Poland, there were 35,000 volunteers from immigrants who arrived from 1919. This Polish army in exile will participate in the French campaign and the Narvik expedition in 1940. But not only that. When Pétain's France signed the armistice with the Third Reich in June 1940, Sikorski's army refused to be assimilated into the French army. With the Polish government in exile, it once again fled France, this time to Great Britain. It will continue to fight totalitarianism on all battlefields in Europe and Africa. We will also find these Poles alongside General Maczek, in the navy or the Royal Air Forces among others.
So basically the Germans won because of better morale, better leadership and a better airforce. I heard later military commanders have played wargame simulations of the Battle of France in which the allies won, but I think that is a kind of 'if my sister had been a boy, she would have been my brother' - if things had been different, they had been different, but they were not...
I think there are too many factors that can't be replicated in war games for this scenario. Mainly the low war support/morale, and the confusing and sluggish communication system.
In December 1940 Churchill went to Washington to advise the Americans that Britain couldn’t afford to pay for a single cartridge and that it had burnt the commonwealth, and this was after it had been in default of its US loans since 1931. Lend-Lease was born , initially in exchange for 99 year leases to some British territories. Without America, Britain was a lost cause, it couldn’t even feed itself and was surviving thanks to Australian and Canadian help (which it never repaid) but refusing to contribute to underwriting the shipping that was keeping it in the fight.
@@rhvoriginals3083 Obviously not intelligent. I'm assuming you meant the Soviets, but gave you the benefit of the doubt. Because neither the British or Soviets would have won the war without US support.
@@HistoryHustle Well now you know what they are doing... Really, I have watched a lot of TH-cam, over many years & don't ask me why, but the interruptions were more often then I've ever seen B4 !
Ah yes an english yet again speaking about that. Thank you for leaving the battle to run away and now saying that the french were the cowards. I'm not gonna bother watching this video. We know what you think. You say it all the time. Enjoy it. Tomorow may be different.
You should have watched the video because it's not exactly what he said. I think you watched too many videos about the battle of France viewed from the Anglo side and you are now having a burnout.
France could've won WW II if they hired Miraculous kids aged 12-14 with their kwamis such as Plagg, Tikki, Sass, Trixx, Wayyz, Pollen, Barkk, Nooroo, Duusuu, etc to fight Wehrmacht, Waffen-SS, Luftwaffe, Fällschirmjäger, etc. Imagine watching the Austrian painter's reaction when he heard his entire military got destroyed by 12-14 yo magical French kids with their miraculouses & kwamis
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Great to read. Was lots of work. Glad you appreciate it.
Using radios would've at least improved the Anglo-French forces odds of winning.
Indeed.
thanks bro and germanys humiliation in ww1 was erased for nazi germany records
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Interesting video as always Stefan. Cheers from Tennessee
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The French had poor communications and thought the Ardennes was not a possible invasion route.
They knew it was a possible invasion route but they thought it would take much more time. Who had ever heard at the time of "Blitzkrieg"?
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The battle of France was only half won due to German ingenuity, and the other half to allied stupidity.
Think so too yes.
Not Allied stupidity. Hustle gets it right, the Allies were simply not prepared for war, not physically nor (especially) mentally. It takes months if not a year or two for a nation to switch out of its peacetime footing.
True, but that is probably the case for many battles. Just look at the famous battle of antiquity.
Thanks for the video 😊
Today another indepth look on the topic. Thanks for watching.
There's a lot more to it. The French had hundreds of fighter planes that were at least as good as the Hawker Hurricane. The MS 406, D 520, MB 155 and 300 Curtis Hawk 75. Not as fast as the ME 109 but still capable of shooting down any German bomber and with a decent pilot, and giving German fighters a hard time. The French air force was hampered by their distribution into "zones" so that figher strength couldn't be concentrated and a very poor system of directing French planes to where they were needed.
Yes, the French had 3 armored divisions with the Char B1, with a 4th thrown together later. But, the French also had four "Light" divisions. "Light" in this case meaning fast...not lightly armed or armored. These had the Souma S-35s and were equal in strength to a Panzer division. Also, there were about seven mechanized calvary divisions with light tanks and armored cars.
The Light Divisions stopped the German advance in their tracks in Belgium at the battle of Hannut and Gemboux Gap (sorry if I misspelled those) with the Germans losing significantly more tanks. This is the first major clash of modern AFV and still one of the largest with 1500 or so armored vehicles participating.
The French, British and Belgians were doing pretty good in Belgium until the German breakthrough at Sedan forced the Allies to have to retreat from Belgium to avoid encirclement. The retreat caused breakdowns of communication and supply. A lot of French armor was abandoned because of lack of fuel. German planes blasting supply columns added to the bad situation.
Could the Allies have won in 1940? The answer is Yes. They had what they needed. It was how it was all used ...or not used that led to defeat. If you really study it ...100% of the blame rests on the French High Command. The Old Guard. France had forward thinkers like de Gaulle ...but they did not have the power to override the bad decisions of the Old Guard.
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I blame the high ranking commanders for the defeat of France.
I blame the German's for just being too bloody good on the day. Simple as that!!
I think it’s too easy to blame it on just the commanders. France never wanted to go to war.
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Then why declare one?
@@frenzalrhomb6919because we were next
some senior French commanders were appalling. Gamelin was apolitical general who'd been pals with former pm Daladier. he was in his 60s and locked himself away in a castle with no direct radio or telephone communication with his field commanders. all messages went by motorcycle courier. it could take 24 hours for an order to reach a commander and him to then act on it. meanwhile German panzer units were moving at a moment's notice.
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Germans were basically too good, and French were caught off guard.
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It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage episode about France 🇫🇷 invasion by Germany 🇩🇪 in 1940 during WW2. This magnificent work was shared by an amazing ( history Hustle) channel introduced by Sir Stefan🙏. Thanks for sharing
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Normally i have them but wasnt able to make it in time.
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Charlie de Gaulle was the only one who saw the future of warfare and know that things are not going to get repeated like in WW1
To be fair, it's one thing to "see the future of Warfare," but quite another TO BE that future!!
Sir Basil Liddell Hart. Read him. His thoughts predated De Gaulle’s.
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The man who Heinz Gudarian would read and put those very principles in place for his own book on Armoured Warfare Doctrine, "Actung Panzer"
I was going to make mention of Liddell-Heart in my first post, but I just couldn't think of his name at the time.
Wot?
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Trouble with your reading and compression skills?
Excuse me as i'm searching through my notes for more of anything about this topic.
Advanges France had in 1940:
• the Maginot-Line covers the entire eastern frontier on metropolitian france
(including the coasts of Corsica & a stratigic position somewhere on what is the republic of Tunisia)
• An up to-date stockpile of military equipment, especially in aircraft and armour vechicles which outclassed most of what their adversaries had.
• out of the allies in 1940, France had sent the mosy manpower to the frontlines, while the british only sent The BEF & RAF or the Benelux had enough for their own terrirory repetively.
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Unfortunate mishaps for the french military:
• High consription persentage, so a big portion of their manpower were not professional soldiers.
• HQ was plauged with some strife and in fighting, makes it hard to coordinate troop movements.
• A combination of the command structure being very conservitive, and both not locating themselves close/nearer to each other and lacking of quicker communication methods.
• overall strategy sabotaged by British foreign policies, which most importantly soured relations with Belgium when their military buffer in the rhine was gone on 1936.
• french divisions hadn't got into the concept of combined arms warfare as much as the wehrmacht, a well known example is even though a unit of certain single-turret two-man tanks can outlast most of what the germans had that year,
because panzer divisions can consist of a vast array of types, a panzer unit would have something capible to counter whatever the allies were fighting with, unlike the allies keeping their tanks grouped by type to make maintenece easier.
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Um, no. That’s a vast over simplification. The French government didn’t trust the army, and didn’t fund communications. The War Minister died in an air show crash where he was a spectator. He had a plan to change the uniform, which got put on hold while a replacement came up to speed. The minister’s death also crippled several updates to French forces. The one fort that the Germans broke through on the Maginot Line was incomplete. Someone had apparently been feeding French aircraft designers hallucinogenic drugs. And on, and on.
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I find interesting that French General Charles Huntziger (an ethnic German) was the French commander of the very spot of the German breakthrough in 1940. Huntziger would become the Vichy Minister of War and was one of those responsible for Vichy anti-Semitic laws. One wonders whether Huntziger wanted the Germans to win against the Socialist government of the French Third Republic.
In hindsight no. The Germans were completely prepared. UK and France were not ready militarily or politically despite the warnings. Why on earth didn't the UK/France attack Germany in Sept 1939 while the bulk of the Wehrmacht was in Poland?
The Germans did have prepared defenses that would have been difficult to break through and the Allies were still hoping there could be a negotiated settlement instead of a repeat of WW1
I watched a video on this subject by "Histoire sur Carte" (History on Map) here on TH-cam in which a detailed explanation is given :
"The Allies thought that Poland would resist longer, at least till the winter. From the 7th September 1939, the French launched an attack in Saarland in order to relieve Poland. The Germans had evacuated the area, civilians included, and had laid mines and booby traps everywhere. On the 18th, after an advance of about 10 km long by 25 km wide, the units stopped. They were a few kilometers from the Westwall, the western wall, which the French called the Siegfried Line. They encountered no resistance but suffered significant losses from the mines. On the 21st, Poland being virtually beaten, the French troops received the order to retreat to the Maginot Line. In any case, the French didn't have the artillery to breakthrough and couldn't envisage a serious attack on the Westwall, even with the reduce numbers left in the west by the Germans. On the 28th, Warsaw capitulated and on the 6th of October, the last Polish soldiers laid their weapons. The Germans immediately transferred their forces to the west for an offensive that Hitler wanted to launch as soon as possible. It didn't happen before May 1940 for different reasons."
@@stevenburgess2856 Britain was underfunded because France had stopped repaying British debt in 1931. Which is still the case today.
Germans were not prepared either. The plan of the offensive was made on the last minute. Was very risky. The defenses build up on the west were on a much lower level than the Maginot line. It was the concept of how they used panzers and their Air Force. And a lot of good luck with the big gamble in the Ardennes
@@ErikLundgren-p5p You are now talking about the big gamble in the Ardennes. Apart from that I think the Germans were well prepared for this war :
"In the past ten years, Germany has totally reorganized the order of its society in preparation for this war" - The Duke of Windsor, former king Edward VIII.
And the saddest part? The French had multiple opportunities during 1940 to achieve a victory. Their air reconnissance could've been believed when the reported large traffic jams in the Ardennes, and the Ardennes could've been bombed, destroying the German's main offensive, the bridges at sedan could've been retaken, the offensive through Lille could've worked, these are only a few of their pathways to victory, none we're taken, and the worst, and possibly the most unlikely option, the French surrender due to their low morale and poor leadership.
France (39 M) fought Germany (80 M) alone.
France inflicted 120,000 losses on them in 5 weeks and destroyed 1/3 of their tanks.
German military losses were proportionately higher than during the first 6 months of the war on the Russian front.
@@vangorp9056 But the germans inflicted many more on the french
@@awesomebrawel4050 The Germans were more numerous against the French while the Russians were more numerous against the Germans. Plus the Russians had a huge territory to retreat to, which was not the case for the French.
@@Thehiddentruths-rj4fn Germans were more numerous than Soviets when they advanced.
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The battle of saumur 1940 when french cadets soldiers fought against the Germans 1st Calvary division paved the way for "the fighting french" in 1942
The British invasion of Iceland 🇮🇸 6:52 could be an interesting further video.
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Good synopsis of the Battle of France. I think the French 3 man tank and the reliance on phone communications with no doctrine for local commanders to make decisions when out of communication after phone lines are cut by bombing and shelling are the main reasons for French defeat. The French military was ready to fight a continuation war in 1920's, not 1940.
Agree, thanks for sharing.
the Battle of Bir Hakeim redeemed the French reputation they had in 1940 the were called "the fighting french" by Winston Churchill
Churchill was a Francophile and worked throughout the war to promote France, and De Gaulle who he saw as the embodiment of a proud fighting France. US president Roosevelt however disliked De Gaulle and was worried he might set up a dictatorship when France liberated. At Casablanca big meeting the US preferred the Vichy Admiral Darlan instead , however he was assassinated by a Gaullist ( armed with a weapon supplied by Mi6 ) and US went over to supporting De Gaulle
Truly worthy of Churchill's legendary deceit, a compliment that implies that French troops failed in 1940:
"I can't understand how such brave soldiers, fighting in various places at one against ten (sometimes even one against thirty), still manage to find enough strength to go on the assault: it's simply amazing ! I find among the French soldiers of Dunkirk the same ardour as that of the poilus of Verdun in 1916. For several days hundreds of bombers and guns have been pounding the French defences. However, it is still the same thing, our infantry and tanks cannot break through, despite some ephemeral local successes."
"Dunkirk proves to me that the French soldier is one of the best in the world. The French artillery, so feared in 14-18, once again demonstrated its dreaded effectiveness. Our losses are terrifying: many battalions have lost 60% of their strength, sometimes even more! “
"By resisting about ten days to our forces, which were significantly superior in terms of numbers and resources, the French army achieved a superb feat in Dunkirk that is to be commended. It certainly saved Britain from defeat, by allowing its professional army to reach the English coast."
General Von Küchler commandant of the XVIII army
The most sincere tribute to Bir Hakeim came not from the British but from the Germans:
"Some British officers have insinuated that French morale gave way but in the whole course of the desert war, we never encountered a more heroic and well-sustained defence".
Generalmajor Friedrich von Mellenthin
Panzer Battles: A Study of the Employment of Armor in the Second World War 1956
"Bir Hakeim is a further proof of the thesis which I have always maintained, namely that the French are, after us, the best soldiers in Europe. After this war, it will be necessary for us to establish a coalition capable of containing militarily a country capable of accomplishing military prowess which astonish the world as at Bir Hakeim »
Hit ler to the members of the German general staff in June 11, 1942
H itler’s assessment was notably expressed after the battle of Bir Hakeim (North Africa, May 26 to June 11, 1942), where 3,700 Frenchmen in the desert held 16 days against the Afrika Korps and its Italian allies, who numbered 37,000 men. At the same time, the Afrika Korps had switftly taken fortified Tobruk from the British and Canadian in spite of their numerical supériority.
Who cares, the us was supporting Vichy who was allied to Germany. During the time that darlant was still around in north Africa they were still repressing jews, Pl under the eyes of the us army. The same thing happened during the war of Algeria. De Gaulle wanted in dependence for the colonies, the cia funded the oas which tried to pull a purtsch. They never like de Gaulle because he didn't want France to become like Britain, a tool of the us. @@coling3957
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The French fought very well and sacrificed their troops to allow the BEF and French forces to escape from Dunkirk, not all French troops were ready to surrender, De Gaulle would not surrender but the political class let down the French people which led to France surrendering 🇬🇧😎
@@johnvanstone5336 Bull. The French collapsed, fought very poorly, were in disarray and displayed extraordinary levels of cowardice and incompetence.
@@seanlander9321 Oh! I see. Obviously not everyone thinks the same thing :
"Stories that the French troops would not fight were not true. They had fought magnificently, but the organization behind them was totally inadequate. In the past ten years, Germany has totally reorganized the order of its society in preparation for this war. Countries which were unwilling to accept such a reorganization of society and concomitant sacrifices should direct their policies accordingly and thereby avoid dangerous adventure. This applies not merely to Europe, but to the United States also."
The Duke of Windsor, former King Edward VIII.
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@@seanlander9321 France (40 M) fought Germany (80 M) alone.
France inflicted 120,000 losses on them in 5 weeks and destroyed 1/3 of their tanks.
German military losses were proportionately higher than during the first 6 months of the war on the Russian front.
"I can't understand how such brave soldiers, fighting in various places at one against ten (sometimes even one against thirty), still manage to find enough strength to go on the assault: it's simply amazing ! I find among the French soldiers of Dunkirk the same ardour as that of the poilus of Verdun in 1916. For several days hundreds of bombers and guns have been pounding the French defences. However, it is still the same thing, our infantry and tanks cannot break through, despite some ephemeral local successes."
"Dunkirk proves to me that the French soldier is one of the best in the world. The French artillery, so feared in 14-18, once again demonstrated its dreaded effectiveness. Our losses are terrifying: many battalions have lost 60% of their strength, sometimes even more! “
"By resisting about ten days to our forces, which were significantly superior in terms of numbers and resources, the French army achieved a superb feat in Dunkirk that is to be commended. It certainly saved Britain from defeat, by allowing its professional army to reach the English coast."
General Von Küchler commandant of the XVIII army
France was still reeling from the trauma of WW1. Germany had a motive due to the unfairness of Versailles.
The result was inevitable.
In comparison to the catastrophic mauling the Germans cheerfully visited upon the Russians under the aegis of ‘ Brest-Litovsk’, what was it, exactly, that was ‘unfair’ to the Germans ?…
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The allies thought they would be fighting a re-run of WW1.
True.
Good summary of the campaign, but didn't answer the question: Did the french ...have any chance in 1940?
I think they could not win, but they could hold out longer though. This Saturday more on this topic.
Paul Reynaud was not President of France, it was Albert Lebrun who was Président de la République Française. Paul Reynaud was "Président du conseil des ministres", equivalent of Prime minister.
I see. Thanks for sharing.
The big opportunity was in the fall of 1939. An invasion off the Ruhr might have helped Poland and ended the war there with Germany on 2 fronts
Think so too.
Hey Hustler. I have a question that may be a little bit off topic of this video. When Germany and Russia invaded Poland. England and France immediately declared war on Germany. Was there a secret protocol between the Russians England and France that would allow Russia to invade Poland and take over many of the countries up on the northern part of Europe without any intervention from France are a declaration of war from England? That is always confused me Russia and Germany were both equal aggressors as far as the invasion of Poland but the French English only declared war on one of the aggressors. I have always suspected that there was a secret deal or protocol between the English Russians and the French government that they would not intervene against Russia. What are your thoughts on this Hustler??
The Germans invaded Poland first. By then the UK and France had already declared war. The Soviet invasion could be seen as a reaction. In fact, the Soviet Union had offered Poland assistance with troops against German invasion. Poland refused that encouraged by UK. Then came the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.
The whole mess was largely caused by UK foreign policy. And early alliance with the Soviet Union may have prevented WW2 altogether.
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Im sorry but the French had a large and advanced Airforce, they had a powerful swift fighter plane called the Dewoitine.
Not what I have read. See sources below the video.
The Dewoitine D.520 was a new design and had a lot of teething problems. According to Greg Baughen in his book The Rise And Fall Of The French Airforce - "By 10th May, around 250 Dewoitine D.520 fighters had been built but fewer than 50 were ready for combat". Most of the French airforce, especially their bomber force, was anything but advanced.
Weird thing is the Allies had done a “Blitzkreig” vs the Germans in the 100 Days Campaign in 1918. I don’t think they had forgotten its lessons but were still banking on Germany & the USSR starting a war between themselves.
Generals are always prepared to fight the last war.
Explain.
There was a building in Stalingrad where to germans lost more soldiers taking it than France if im correct
More than 40,000 men?
@nuttygeezer708 yes, the tractor factory. Changed hands multiple times though.
@@mdiciaccio87so more than 40,000 Germans were killed attacking this one building is what this guy and yourself are saying?
@nuttygeezer708 yes. But it was not one attack - the building changed hands several times throughout the battle
@@mdiciaccio87 Right so how many killed did the Germans suffer here?
If only the Dutch had defended better.
Of only...
@@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 Reminds me of something; what is it about the Dutch and the way they despise Australia? The Australians made unbelievable sacrifices for the Dutch to return all its colonies from Japan and to provide government in exile, including critical banking facilities for Europe, but in return the Dutch gave the middle finger after a five fingered discount, then supported Europe (and still do) for the punitive trade embargo inflicted on Australia for generations.
Would it have made much difference if NL defended longer? Amsterdam, The Hague, maybe Utrecht all flattened like Rotterdam? May have given the Brits and French a few days more to reorganise but the end result would likely have been the same.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 A united defence would have been preferable to the humiliation of being rescued by others. Cowardice is a stain on the national character that lasts forever.
@@seanlander9321 - By declaring themselves neutral, the low countries prevented any mutual defence that might have worked. When invaded on 10 May, Belgium called for help and the Brits moved up from France, leaving behind fortified positions that might have been defensible. It was a dire mistake that pretty much sealed the fate of the entire 1940 campaign.
The Germans always defeat France at Sedan. After losing at Sedan twice you’d think the French army would have learned by 1940
In 1940 is had happened only once before, in 1870-1.
I read that there were both French and British generals that wanted to keep their forces much further back into France, away from the Northern borders, so that there would be more room to move about and more time to react. But the French govt. didn't want the Germans coming into France and fighting taking place on their territory causing destruction.
I believe that yes.
My ill educated take.
France needs some significant changes to its command structure and more importantly its command attitude for things to play out different.
Not trusting radio for local communications, kind of understandable considering WW1 experience, but robbed them of local flexibility. Huge logistical issues, with the units going into Belgium having resupply issues in fuel and oils for their tanks and trucks to the point that many vehicles were abandoned/destroyed by their vehicles when they ran out of fuel.
Then the problems of the Army of the Air handed the Germans free movement behind their lines while robbing the French of the same.
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Winston Churchill spoke vociferously before the out break of this war about the Hitler etc and pestered Britain to re-arm and what Hitler would do and not to be trusted 🇬🇧😎
The German army no doubt had a stunning capacity to capitalise on any opportunity. Commanders on all levels did not just await orders from above but acted in accordance with the intent of their superiors and local opportunities. But they were also very lucky. The events would only have had to be changed slightly and the Germans would be slowed enough for the French lines to "stiffen". If that had happened the tactical and operational advantage would suddenly been on French side. Not that the French would have overrun the Germans but the war would have turned in to an attritional war in which the allies very soon would be superior and in Germany Hitler would be viewed as a failure. They did plan for a major offensive in 1941 - the French army was rapidly growing in strength in sprong of 40 and it probably was the last moment for the Germans to have any chance of success. BTW the allied doctrines of late WWII were more like the French of 1940 than of the German - they just had more planes and radios, but still repied on firepower and detailed orders at all levels.
Regardless on which side the war the french was on they fought to the bitter end
Sorry flower, but the uniforms were different. Just because YOU can't see the differences, doesn't mean they aren't there.
Minor differences.
In 1918 the RAF and the Armée de l'Air threw every plane they had into stopping the kaiserschlacht and then supporting the allied advance. By 1940 the Germans had learned the lesson and created a tactical air force designed to support ground troops. The French and British had by that time been seduced by Douhet's theories that bombers could win the war on their own and kept most of their fighters back to defend cities that weren't being attacked. It also didn't help that the French withdrew 300 MS406 fighters from front line service on 1st May - 10 days before the German attack - intending to upgrade them to MS410s. It left the Luftwaffe with almost total air superiority over the front lines.
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So where did all these polish units came from? I know that there were many that helped liberate the Netherlands. How did they leave when Poland was captured by Germany and Russia?
From October to December 1939, nearly 100,000 new Poles joined the contingent of 500,000 Poles already present on French soil since the signing of the Franco-Polish convention of September 3, 1919. These Poles will arrive in France after a long journey across Europe, mainly via camps set up in Romania. Among them, General Sikorski and the surviving soldiers of the Polish army but also many civilians.
The city of Angers even became the capital of Poland in exile. Coëtquidan becomes the main center of the Polish army in France. Lyon will become the base for Polish pilots. In addition to tens of thousands of soldiers from Poland, there were 35,000 volunteers from immigrants who arrived from 1919. This Polish army in exile will participate in the French campaign and the Narvik expedition in 1940. But not only that.
When Pétain's France signed the armistice with the Third Reich in June 1940, Sikorski's army refused to be assimilated into the French army. With the Polish government in exile, it once again fled France, this time to Great Britain.
It will continue to fight totalitarianism on all battlefields in Europe and Africa.
We will also find these Poles alongside General Maczek, in the navy or the Royal Air Forces among others.
@@Thehiddentruths-rj4fn Thanks for this information!
@@janvermeulen1557 You are welcome.
Because many factors😂
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So basically the Germans won because of better morale, better leadership and a better airforce. I heard later military commanders have played wargame simulations of the Battle of France in which the allies won, but I think that is a kind of 'if my sister had been a boy, she would have been my brother' - if things had been different, they had been different, but they were not...
I agree.
I think there are too many factors that can't be replicated in war games for this scenario. Mainly the low war support/morale, and the confusing and sluggish communication system.
Think about an alternate history where germany lost this battle.... think of the 10s of millions of lives saved...
Think so too.
If britain hasn't betrayed czechoslovakia ww2 wouldnt happened or would be delayed by decade or more
What if Mechelen incident didn't happen and Manstein plan didn't adopted?
Who knows...
No mention of Arras.
Please explain.
Lions led by Donkey's.........😅
The famous WW1 phrase.
@@HistoryHustle 18 Years.lol.Nothing Changed.
In December 1940 Churchill went to Washington to advise the Americans that Britain couldn’t afford to pay for a single cartridge and that it had burnt the commonwealth, and this was after it had been in default of its US loans since 1931. Lend-Lease was born , initially in exchange for 99 year leases to some British territories. Without America, Britain was a lost cause, it couldn’t even feed itself and was surviving thanks to Australian and Canadian help (which it never repaid) but refusing to contribute to underwriting the shipping that was keeping it in the fight.
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I think they would have won even without the U.S., but they would have suffered far greater losses, and it would have taken longer.
Who is They? Curious.
@@scottkrater2131 If you’re to slow to make the connection, I wasn’t talking to you.
@@rhvoriginals3083 Obviously not intelligent. I'm assuming you meant the Soviets, but gave you the benefit of the doubt. Because neither the British or Soviets would have won the war without US support.
Interesting to read.
Have NEVER before been interrupted so often on youtube with commercials F-U
Dude, I am not doing this, it is YT. Chill out.
@@HistoryHustle Well now you know what they are doing... Really, I have watched a lot of TH-cam, over many years & don't ask me why, but the interruptions were more often then I've ever seen B4 !
Ah yes an english yet again speaking about that. Thank you for leaving the battle to run away and now saying that the french were the cowards.
I'm not gonna bother watching this video. We know what you think. You say it all the time.
Enjoy it. Tomorow may be different.
Ok man.
You should have watched the video because it's not exactly what he said. I think you watched too many videos about the battle of France viewed from the Anglo side and you are now having a burnout.
France could've won WW II if they hired Miraculous kids aged 12-14 with their kwamis such as Plagg, Tikki, Sass, Trixx, Wayyz, Pollen, Barkk, Nooroo, Duusuu, etc to fight Wehrmacht, Waffen-SS, Luftwaffe, Fällschirmjäger, etc. Imagine watching the Austrian painter's reaction when he heard his entire military got destroyed by 12-14 yo magical French kids with their miraculouses & kwamis
French are great raising white flags.
Lol
Answer: The Germans fought the French.
Ok.
Britain did nothing they only lost 7,000 men compared to France nearly 100,000 and Germany 40,000
Britain did something though. They fought and fought hard but had fewer men and thus fewer casualties.