The idea of having the music so synched up with what's going on in-game was a fantastic way of representing the concept of order, and now I wish I knew what our plaza could have looked like if Side Order won and they went all in on that idea.
Thing is the main game would likely be different from the DLC if Order won. There's that dreamlike element to Side Order, because of course, that likely would've been lost if Order won.
Think we got lucky, being DLC it means they can do what they want without sacrifice to the core gameplay, made the whole experience possible. While I'd never trade it for anything it's interesting to think about. We probably still would've had a roguelite if chaos won, but with a more unhinged, bestial theme, turf ruined beyond recognition. Both story mode and side order being more gritty and in-your-face, order's whole thing seems to be keeping vague. The artbook has an idol concept of three sanitized looking inklings(?), I wonder if they could've come close to what an order themed trio would be. With chaos' motif being an ode to culture and community, order could've been more about material evolution, tech everywhere no doubt with the podcasts actually making a lot more sense to be by a group aiming to be more efficient, maybe in a more traditional podcast setting, don't know about the hub though
@@NuiYabuko the dreamlike element is all there would have been if we won, because Marina was all about the best aspects of what "order" means to her. I think a lot of Team Chaos players (and players who were not around for finalfest) don't grasp what MArina was getting at because she's intentionally vague about it - which is literally the whole point. "Order," to Marina, means she doesn't want the risk of going back to her old life. That's what "an unchanging world" means to her. It means "I've gotten what I truly wanted and I don't want to lose that" which is venerable at best, a response to genuine trauma at worst, either way fully justifiable. Pearl just wanted there to be no rules for her to obey - which is funny because she's already a billionaire (canonically raised with a LOT of wealth) and never had to follow any rules anyway, because there aren't consequences for the rich in the irst place. And yet. The team that stans an ugly rich girl with no personality who never had to work for her talents is the team that won. IDK I'm just still really irked by how the whole thing went down, and I feel like we've only been seeing the actual least charitable interpretations of what was wanted by possibly the most charitable and "for the people" character we've ever seen Nintendo put out (putting aside literal gods and such). Not trying to attakc any Chaos fans, I just think finalfest wasn't handled very well and newer players don't seem to grasp the gravity of what went down, it was on the scale of recent general election ins the US for the fandom, and I think a lot of people may have forgotten already (which is fair).
i’m so glad someone else noticed the visual audio in the square and the lobby, i’ve probably spent more time just listening to the music and watching the effects than actually playing side order lmao. also this is a great video (the pallet is a soundboard wtf???? i’m gonna waste more hours doing that now)
fun fact about color chips: the sounds they make are pulled from off the hook and acht/dedf1sh's songs! it feels like it symbolizes something if you use agent 8's palette, i think also another fun fact: if you dont walk or anyþing in the lobbt for long enough, pearl sits at 1 of 3 locations! great for picture mode
I think music and rhythm was a focus with this dlc, a few other things I noticed was: - the lucky bomb ability exploding to the beat of the current song - gliding inside of the big shape that appears in the foyer when the music shifts plays a special vocal track (spoilers) - the final bosses attacks and shield breaking going to the beat I really love all the little details in this dlc, makes it something really special I think
@@NuiYabukoI love the boss' attacks doing that! X3 That feels really satisfying, to me, personally, especially the charging and then the ink bubbles being shot out, it sounds so satisfying I'll have to listen to the shields more next time! ^^ I'm sure they sound awesome too!
if you pause at the final boss and play the special palette in a snaking line (first row left to right, second row right to left, etc) it plays ebb & flow
@Bucketnetta I should note that this is in the original final fight after you collect all the chips, not the rematch, so if you want to hear it you'll have to change to the og fight in the foyer.
And this is only the tip of the iceberg, there are audio cues for practically everything in Side Order. The enemies are named after music terms, and they all have a subtle effect on the music when they're on the map. Even the attacks from the bosses have an audio cue, Side Order's music is just so dynamic. Ans that is why no upload of this DLC's soundtrack will ever truly do it justice, it just feels so amazing for the music to actually _respond_ to everything that's happening around you.
@@atoaster1209 Look up what the second half of each of the enemies' names mean in music. If you listen close enough, you'll notice them in the music when they're present on the map.
WAIIIT THE PALETTE WORKS WITH THE TOUCHSCREEN?! I WAS MAKING SOME WEE BEATS WITH BUTTON CONTROLS AND SWITCHING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN CHIPS, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THE TOUCHSCREEN WORKED That is so coolll, thanks a ton for the info, this whole video is awesome, thanks for shedding light on some of these really cool aspects of the DLC! ^^ I love sound design like this, too, and there's several things I hadn't noticed, before, that were in this video, too!
all of splatoons sound and music design is incredible, the way the shops' music all melts into each other, the way the music strings together so well, and SO much more. and that's just one reason why splatoon is my favourite game.
finally someone saying something good about splatoon and the side order dlc. everything ive been seeing they only focus on the bad details and not the cool things like this
Im a huge sucker for sound design so all of that alone made this DLC worth it for me lol Like even while fighting there are things that are synced to the beat.
One cute thing about the tower lobby is that when the lights go dim and the icosahedron appears in the middle, if you use the dashpad to launch yourself into the icosahedron an extra layer is added to the song while you're inside it!
OOOHHH!! Thank you for showing off the touch screen soundboard thing! I really couldn't figure out what Pearl meant by the music in the lobby was the same as my last Pallet! My switch's touch screen has been broken for SEVERAL years now so I don't notice things like that.
this video had a vibe i really liked with really passionate well said thoughts, I'd totally watch more video game music music appreciation essays like this :D
@@JamesMoneyPlease do! The music in Side Order is so dynamic, this video didn't even mention so many of the ways the music and the gameplay are intertwined.
Glad I’m not the only one who enjoys dynamic video game music, and the SFX that complements them well. I first noticed it in Pkmn Black and White, where new instruments would play while you walk through a route, and if you were still, you wouldn’t hear those same instruments.
In the lobby, they've even added music-synced elements to the *back* of the elevator. And the devs made a way for us to get back there, because they knew we would. Man, this game is something special (Glide from a high point towards one of the back corner pillars. You'll have to touch the water and bounce, but keep gliding and land on the platform surrounding one of those pillars. Go around the back of the pillar and there'll be a conveyor to shoot you upwards, which you can use to glide behind the elevator and check out the sound visualizer. There's a pillar and conveyor on both corner pillars, so it doesn't matter which direction you choose.)
Side Order feels like the closest in vibes Splatoon has gotten to de Blob, esp de Blob 2; you are fighting against someone who wants the world to be colorless and the population to be mindless under their control, to do so you work to color your surroundings with help from your pink drone friend as you upgrade yourself and the drone, as you progress bringing more color to the world around you, the music picks up more and actions you perform take place with music stings, the enemies you face also wield black ink that removes the color you've added and will kill you if you are exposed to it for long, the final boss also while having a very menacing demeanor turns out to act like a childish brat.
Yep music that does that is a masterpiece, like look at the shops in all 3 squares of splatoon, the shops have different beats depending on the character that owns the shop
Splatoon 2 did a similar soundboard-esque thing for it's lobby screen. Hitting the shoulder buttons and triggers would cause vocalizations to come out on beat with the chilled out music on the waiting screen. I think this is an evolution of that experiment.
I like to tell myself that these details in the sound design are canonicly made by Marina, the Memverse aims to free the octolings from their brainwashing, herself having been freed by the melody of the calamari inkantation, she attempted to reproduce a similar effect by using those effects everywhere
Thanks for covering this and having a sit down on the audio-visual queues of Side Order! Been looking for more content on the musical quirks of the DLC and this was fun to watch!
It reminds me of some games and especially in vr games where an object that comes closer to your ear it sounds louder, or like in "I expect you to die" there are segments where you can wear a headset (in game). Regardless if you're wearing or not as you play the audio continues even if you cannot hear it. Also Proximity chat in Lethal Company. Not only are the effects on execution of it done perfectly but there are neat things that some might not notice at first. One being that the closer you are to a person holding a walkie talkie you can hear what the other end is saying. It's things like that I feel add a lot to the immersion. Rather than just listening to an mp3 the audio feels as if it has depth.
i also noticed this when i first went into side order and i was awestruck, literally stayed in there for ages and could have stayed there forever. i fell in love with side order before i even started playing. (it also plays music inside the lobbly like this, more disco-y) edit:nvm you see in in the video😂
I've heard that if you glide through the big central shape in the Foyer during the groovy phase the music changes or something. Haven't verified yet tho...
wile it isn't about the cool vfx tuned with the audio or even the lobbies, I've noticed that the main theme of the original side order trailer, appears nowhere in the game, aside from one very mild leitmotif at the veery beginning and even then it's cut suuper short
Slight question, this might be weird but my friend was freaking out about a dude named “James Money”, could i possibly dm you and send a screenshot? Also great video!
The idea of having the music so synched up with what's going on in-game was a fantastic way of representing the concept of order, and now I wish I knew what our plaza could have looked like if Side Order won and they went all in on that idea.
Thing is the main game would likely be different from the DLC if Order won. There's that dreamlike element to Side Order, because of course, that likely would've been lost if Order won.
Think we got lucky, being DLC it means they can do what they want without sacrifice to the core gameplay, made the whole experience possible.
While I'd never trade it for anything it's interesting to think about.
We probably still would've had a roguelite if chaos won, but with a more unhinged, bestial theme, turf ruined beyond recognition.
Both story mode and side order being more gritty and in-your-face, order's whole thing seems to be keeping vague.
The artbook has an idol concept of three sanitized looking inklings(?), I wonder if they could've come close to what an order themed trio would be.
With chaos' motif being an ode to culture and community, order could've been more about material evolution, tech everywhere no doubt with the podcasts actually making a lot more sense to be by a group aiming to be more efficient, maybe in
a more traditional podcast setting, don't know about the hub though
@@NuiYabuko the dreamlike element is all there would have been if we won, because Marina was all about the best aspects of what "order" means to her. I think a lot of Team Chaos players (and players who were not around for finalfest) don't grasp what MArina was getting at because she's intentionally vague about it - which is literally the whole point. "Order," to Marina, means she doesn't want the risk of going back to her old life. That's what "an unchanging world" means to her. It means "I've gotten what I truly wanted and I don't want to lose that" which is venerable at best, a response to genuine trauma at worst, either way fully justifiable. Pearl just wanted there to be no rules for her to obey - which is funny because she's already a billionaire (canonically raised with a LOT of wealth) and never had to follow any rules anyway, because there aren't consequences for the rich in the irst place. And yet. The team that stans an ugly rich girl with no personality who never had to work for her talents is the team that won. IDK I'm just still really irked by how the whole thing went down, and I feel like we've only been seeing the actual least charitable interpretations of what was wanted by possibly the most charitable and "for the people" character we've ever seen Nintendo put out (putting aside literal gods and such). Not trying to attakc any Chaos fans, I just think finalfest wasn't handled very well and newer players don't seem to grasp the gravity of what went down, it was on the scale of recent general election ins the US for the fandom, and I think a lot of people may have forgotten already (which is fair).
i’m so glad someone else noticed the visual audio in the square and the lobby, i’ve probably spent more time just listening to the music and watching the effects than actually playing side order lmao. also this is a great video (the pallet is a soundboard wtf???? i’m gonna waste more hours doing that now)
fun fact about color chips: the sounds they make are pulled from off the hook and acht/dedf1sh's songs! it feels like it symbolizes something if you use agent 8's palette, i think
also another fun fact: if you dont walk or anyþing in the lobbt for long enough, pearl sits at 1 of 3 locations! great for picture mode
@@wiredwe1rdexe985I recognised the color pulse vacuum synth but other than that I can’t recognise anything
@@ImGonnaBeAStarr11 listen to nasty majesty and shark bytes, and especially The Plan!!! they all include beats :3
I think music and rhythm was a focus with this dlc, a few other things I noticed was:
- the lucky bomb ability exploding to the beat of the current song
- gliding inside of the big shape that appears in the foyer when the music shifts plays a special vocal track
(spoilers)
- the final bosses attacks and shield breaking going to the beat
I really love all the little details in this dlc, makes it something really special I think
The shield breaking to the beat is so satisfying.
@@NuiYabukoI love the boss' attacks doing that! X3 That feels really satisfying, to me, personally, especially the charging and then the ink bubbles being shot out, it sounds so satisfying
I'll have to listen to the shields more next time! ^^ I'm sure they sound awesome too!
if you pause at the final boss and play the special palette in a snaking line (first row left to right, second row right to left, etc) it plays ebb & flow
Notice how all the sounds you hear in the color chips are all the sound fonts used in alot of off the hook’s music
One that’s the easiest to spot is one of the lucky ones. It makes the sound that plays in the completion theme from OE and in Fly octo Fly
And in the final fight, pressing the chips in sequential order will play Ebb and Flow, no matter the color
@@RadiantBlazeVA whattt?!? I have to try this now
@Bucketnetta I should note that this is in the original final fight after you collect all the chips, not the rematch, so if you want to hear it you'll have to change to the og fight in the foyer.
@@RadiantBlazeVA yeah I got that
Fun fact, if you use the launchers on either side of the foyer and hover in the middle of the giant dodecahedron 5:10, you can briefly hear vocals
And this is only the tip of the iceberg, there are audio cues for practically everything in Side Order.
The enemies are named after music terms, and they all have a subtle effect on the music when they're on the map. Even the attacks from the bosses have an audio cue, Side Order's music is just so dynamic.
Ans that is why no upload of this DLC's soundtrack will ever truly do it justice, it just feels so amazing for the music to actually _respond_ to everything that's happening around you.
Hi Temmie :D
@@MoblinFanLikesMoblins haaiiiiii :3
Yo what?! Elaborate on the enemies affecting the music!
@@atoaster1209 Look up what the second half of each of the enemies' names mean in music. If you listen close enough, you'll notice them in the music when they're present on the map.
The homing arpeggios do be arpeggiating
Also something that caught my attention was the absolute banger that was Marina’s bossfight is synced up with when she fires the ink blobs
WAIIIT THE PALETTE WORKS WITH THE TOUCHSCREEN?! I WAS MAKING SOME WEE BEATS WITH BUTTON CONTROLS AND SWITCHING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN CHIPS, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THE TOUCHSCREEN WORKED
That is so coolll, thanks a ton for the info, this whole video is awesome, thanks for shedding light on some of these really cool aspects of the DLC! ^^ I love sound design like this, too, and there's several things I hadn't noticed, before, that were in this video, too!
Correct me if I'm wrong. I thought the whole game (beside this) had no touch controls at all, and they made it just for this?!
Gonna try it out
all of splatoons sound and music design is incredible, the way the shops' music all melts into each other, the way the music strings together so well, and SO much more.
and that's just one reason why splatoon is my favourite game.
finally someone saying something good about splatoon and the side order dlc. everything ive been seeing they only focus on the bad details and not the cool things like this
Im a huge sucker for sound design so all of that alone made this DLC worth it for me lol
Like even while fighting there are things that are synced to the beat.
One cute thing about the tower lobby is that when the lights go dim and the icosahedron appears in the middle, if you use the dashpad to launch yourself into the icosahedron an extra layer is added to the song while you're inside it!
OOOHHH!! Thank you for showing off the touch screen soundboard thing! I really couldn't figure out what Pearl meant by the music in the lobby was the same as my last Pallet! My switch's touch screen has been broken for SEVERAL years now so I don't notice things like that.
this video had a vibe i really liked with really passionate well said thoughts, I'd totally watch more video game music music appreciation essays like this :D
I appreciate the comment! I'll have to look into doing more in the future ;)
@@JamesMoneyPlease do! The music in Side Order is so dynamic, this video didn't even mention so many of the ways the music and the gameplay are intertwined.
Glad I’m not the only one who enjoys dynamic video game music, and the SFX that complements them well.
I first noticed it in Pkmn Black and White, where new instruments would play while you walk through a route, and if you were still, you wouldn’t hear those same instruments.
In the lobby, they've even added music-synced elements to the *back* of the elevator. And the devs made a way for us to get back there, because they knew we would. Man, this game is something special
(Glide from a high point towards one of the back corner pillars. You'll have to touch the water and bounce, but keep gliding and land on the platform surrounding one of those pillars. Go around the back of the pillar and there'll be a conveyor to shoot you upwards, which you can use to glide behind the elevator and check out the sound visualizer. There's a pillar and conveyor on both corner pillars, so it doesn't matter which direction you choose.)
Side Order feels like the closest in vibes Splatoon has gotten to de Blob, esp de Blob 2; you are fighting against someone who wants the world to be colorless and the population to be mindless under their control, to do so you work to color your surroundings with help from your pink drone friend as you upgrade yourself and the drone, as you progress bringing more color to the world around you, the music picks up more and actions you perform take place with music stings, the enemies you face also wield black ink that removes the color you've added and will kill you if you are exposed to it for long, the final boss also while having a very menacing demeanor turns out to act like a childish brat.
i am so happy someone else mentioned this! the details absolutely blew me away. i love splatoon.
Yep music that does that is a masterpiece, like look at the shops in all 3 squares of splatoon, the shops have different beats depending on the character that owns the shop
Splatoon 2 did a similar soundboard-esque thing for it's lobby screen. Hitting the shoulder buttons and triggers would cause vocalizations to come out on beat with the chilled out music on the waiting screen. I think this is an evolution of that experiment.
I love how the levels have different levels of intense music
I’m glad to hear I wasn’t the only one to deeply appreciate the sound design in Side Order
The same kinda thing happens in the foyar. I absolutely love this representation of the music
I like to tell myself that these details in the sound design are canonicly made by Marina, the Memverse aims to free the octolings from their brainwashing, herself having been freed by the melody of the calamari inkantation, she attempted to reproduce a similar effect by using those effects everywhere
i never realized those things were sound effect, thats actually so cool
Aww i thought you're also gonna talk about marina's song in the top floor. Really amazing and the beat also lines up with the weapon shots
Thanks for covering this and having a sit down on the audio-visual queues of Side Order! Been looking for more content on the musical quirks of the DLC and this was fun to watch!
This video literally brought you out of retirement
YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN SOUND PAD WITH THE PALLETE??????? THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING OFF THE HOOK SONGS ON IT
YEAH YEAH! I believe some of the samples are from Off the Hook songs as well!
I didn't know that either. That's cool.
One thing where Splatoon never dissapoints is the music. Tho Side Order is going the next level
Splatoon is somehow a very high quality game when it comes to things like that. I can't wait for the next Splatoon game
It reminds me of some games and especially in vr games where an object that comes closer to your ear it sounds louder, or like in "I expect you to die" there are segments where you can wear a headset (in game). Regardless if you're wearing or not as you play the audio continues even if you cannot hear it. Also Proximity chat in Lethal Company. Not only are the effects on execution of it done perfectly but there are neat things that some might not notice at first. One being that the closer you are to a person holding a walkie talkie you can hear what the other end is saying. It's things like that I feel add a lot to the immersion. Rather than just listening to an mp3 the audio feels as if it has depth.
Fitting since the Memverse is a virtual reality of Marina’s creation
To be fair, I would've loved to see all of this implemented in a full game overally.
when doing the final vibrant battle check out the palette soundboard. they make different sounds and u may or may not recognize it
It was interesting! Great video!
i also noticed this when i first went into side order and i was awestruck, literally stayed in there for ages and could have stayed there forever. i fell in love with side order before i even started playing.
(it also plays music inside the lobbly like this, more disco-y)
edit:nvm you see in in the video😂
there is a reference to brain age somewhere in the soundtrack I think it could just be similar sounding but it's there
Amazing video❤
I wish there was a way to listen to the outside music on my phone its actually so good
I've heard that if you glide through the big central shape in the Foyer during the groovy phase the music changes or something. Haven't verified yet tho...
It does change something actually, adds a bit of vocals while inside it
i might be wrong but im pretty sure spectrum obligato (final boss p2) uses the sounds from the pallet
wile it isn't about the cool vfx tuned with the audio or even the lobbies, I've noticed that the main theme of the original side order trailer, appears nowhere in the game, aside from one very mild leitmotif at the veery beginning and even then it's cut suuper short
:OOOO THIS IS SO COOL
Oh woah there’s an audio visualiser in the square damn thanks for sharing
Man, Nintendo are freaking genius.
I wish I could play this dlc, but alss I only have 2 😢
: O COOL
Slight question, this might be weird but my friend was freaking out about a dude named “James Money”, could i possibly dm you and send a screenshot? Also great video!
Uhm, Acktually that is thee order sector and not Inkopolis square 🤓
Not Cringe
Can someone just make a video on the soundtrack of it? Its phenomenal and personally dont know jack shit ablut this game but the music... incredible