Part One was so popular, and material is so abundant, we just couldn't resist another list of arguments we hear from the mouths of those defending God.
Marko M Yes. What if Quetzalcóatl is the ONE TRUE GOD? That would mean that all 3 Billion followers of the Abrahamic faiths are going to the Nahuatl hell, wouldn't it?
I get the "the old testament doesnt matter" argument from Christians all the time, which i find really strange because its always after they`ve defended the adam and eve and noah's ark stories.
+Martin McNeill Christians have another problem as they claim Jeshuah the illigitimate craftsmen son and "god" was promised in the OT. So throwing out the OT throws out Jeshuah to. I like that approach as who prays to humans. ;)
+oTheGalacZo Are you trying to say his comment is flawed because of that bit, adding to the hypocrisy of the statement "the old testament doesn't count.", or idk trolling?
Nero Void Not really, I'm just adding evidence to his argument. Many Christians claim the OT doesn't apply despite that fact the Jesus himself said that it still did 100%. They defend Adam and Eve and the Ten Commandments and yet they say the old testament "doesn't count".
JEsus!, of course, he is my cousin, and he lives on 5th avenue, he has the best "pachucomobile" in town, you know, the one that has air horns that play "La Cucaracha", air shocks to jump and that "la virgencita" painted on the hood oh you mean Jesus the "lord and saviour", nope, never met that guy, and frankly don't want to.
Is it possible to have an intelligent conversation about someone’s beliefs without hostility and profanity? There’s a saying that if you have the facts, pound the facts - if you don’t have the facts, pound the table. Anytime you try to tear down someone’s beliefs there will be hostility.
Streetsdisciple001 - I agree with you on giving constructive criticism like when are correcting grammar or posture or historical facts. Ridicule has a connotation of in a laughing manner which few will accept as constructive especially in the areas of religious beliefs.
science (1)develop theory (2)test theory (3)if evidence supports theory continue testing until enough evidence is gathered (4) if not, change theory to fit evidence (5)repeat religion (1)have holy text (2) ignore contradicting evidence (3)reapeat
+max “Mr. Peanut” awsomesause Shouldn't it be. science (1)develop hypothesis (2)test hypothesis (3)if evidence supports hypothesis, elevate status to theory (4)Continue testing until enough supporting evidence is gathered (5)If not, formulate new theory that fits the evidence (6)repeat ???
Dekkren Kain what about the tilma of our Lady of Guadalupe? What about the events that occurred in front of 70,000 people on site at Fatima in 1917 ( there are grainy pictures) , at Zitun Egypt, ( grainy pictures ). Day
i hate to be a doctor and save someone's life only to have the patient thank god for saving them. like "bitch, if anything, god got you in this situation. he could've prevented it."
A plane crashes and one man dies. No significance ! A plane crashes and all but one man die. That's a miracle ! A farmer loses 70% of his crop owing to bad weather. Response: Thank God it wasn't worse !
+Bodach Well, that does make a bit of sense, if all but one passenger survived, that mean that the crash wasn't serious enough to cause more death. If all but one dies, it's just statistically unlikely.
+ajs1031 Except serial killers tend to choose targets for specific reasons and are malevolent in nature. A tornado will hit anything in its path and has no alignment.
+Khy Maaren He was treating the situation as if God hypothetically existed. Since the Bible claims God is responsible for everything, if he exists, then the tornado is a direct result of God's actions and aligns with him.
I've once heard an even better version of this: A lightning bolt strikes an atheist and leaves him half-paralyzed. "It was God's punishment! God hates you!" A lightning bolt strikes a priest and leaves him half-paralyzed. "It's a miracle! He was hit by a lightning and SURVIVED!" So, yeah.
Christopher Hitchens was once asked if he ever got tired of debating with religious apologists, to which his answer was, "No. Because you never know what they're going to say next."
Sean Jones His old debate videos are all half full of angry Christians celebrating his death and the “fact” that he’s in hell. Despicable, but at least they’re exposing themselves.
As an atheist, I never resorted to Christianity to give me a set of morals. It's always been very simple. Don't mess with others and they won't mess with you. No religion is needed here.
eh, for the most part that's what I got out of Christianity. It's pretty easy to tell the parts that man put in there to control people and which parts were honest to goodness teachings about how to live and treat others. Grew up with a roman catholic family, went to private school the whole nine. I despise the concept of religion myself, but the part where it said do unto others has always stuck with me. If the man Jesus did actually exist I honestly think that's what he was trying to say to people. He went around feeding hungry people and doing good deeds for the sake of doing good deeds. Man is greedy by nature and they contorted the story to fit their own needs. They thought homosexuality was wrong so bam all of a sudden God tells them to write it down that being gay is evil. So I agree with you, but I just think humans got in the way of belief systems teaching to love each other and that's where those rules came from.
Ksortakh Kraxthar It just simply makes sense. I'm not convinced religion 'created' all of man's morals. He needed morals for the purpose of survival by getting along with others for the sake of trade. Since when do you really need religion to tell you the obvious? It's not a concept you need to pull out of a book.
Thebuilderofthings1 Err, thing is, you probably are not familiar with the term "left hand religions". They are sorta anti-religions (although that is a simplification, especially when one looks at strange stuff like Thelema). My former post was set in a somewhat funnier mood. Talking seriously, I'd agree with your opinion, especially in regard to the contents of the bible.
I think morals are something that you learn as you grow by observing and listening to your peers and parents. You don't need religion to tell right from wrong. I mean my dog for example, is beyond obviously not religious, but he knows its wrong to pee on the carpet. He knows not to hurt others, unless protecting someone else or in self-defense. So if animals without religion and/or a close personal relationship (sounds kinda pedophilic) with God can tell right from wrong, then why shouldn't people be able to. I am pretty sure I just sounded like an idiot.
Braden Vankirk Although #2 (or #12 if you include the previous series) sounds highly persuasive to me. I could totally believe in a universe created by an alien frat boy's failed attempt to home brew beer. It would explain so much. ;)
No dumbass, we don't have to prove shit. No claim of god was ever done. You people made the claim that god is controlling everything. We ask you to prove it, your best answer is the bible or whatever dumb book said so. We then ask, how do you know the book is correct, your best answer is because the book says it's real. That's not proving anything. I've never said there isn't a god, I would have the burden of proof to disprove that. Not believing your idiotic claim isn't the same as claiming your idiotic claim is false.
lol *cough* (triggered), im an atheist as well. if u could comprehend my comment then u would no i said that IF u make the positive claim that God does not exist, then and only then is when the atheist must prove it. hav a lovely day calling people dumbasses :)
You know...I'll admit, I read the comment on my phone and completely missed the context of it. I thought it originally said "That's why you don't accept god. You believing god doesn't exist is when u must prove it" I can completely admit when i got it wrong. Yup, you had it right! My bad.
Pascal's Wager also fails to recognize that there are thousands of other religions on the planet. Even If Christianity were the only religion in existence, Pascal's Wager still wouldn't make sense.
Pascal's wager is so flawed, it doesn't take into account the other religions in the world. It doesn't take into account the other hells, or heavens. You could be wrong on so many levels. It's all a huge gamble.
Father Ted - I have sinned , and so must consume Beer. For Beer is from Ted (Pubs Be Upon Him) All-Knowing, and All-Wise. He sacrificed Himself to give us Beer.
It is true that science can predict the orbits of the planets very accurately. But science has no idea what gravity actually is. General Relativity says that the empty vacuum curves in the presence of matter. In other words, the hard vacuum acts as an elastic medium. GR is highly successful at accurately predicting the behaviour of gravitating bodies and it eliminated the problem of action at a distance. But the nature of gravity itself is a mystery
The presence of science and its proofs doesn't refute the Bible. I myself am Christian and understand that there are laws of science that we can understand. It's the fact that evolution is called "The Theory of Evolution" and not "The law of Evolution" and that every aspect of evolution is up for debate doesn't make it a reliable course for explaining the beginnings of the universe. one being wrong also doesn't make the other right so what do I know...
Pascal's wager is also flawed because you're assuming you have the right god. There are thousands of gods, so you're not just flipping a coin. Even if you narrowed it down to the top religions, you'd need a D&D multi-sided die (dice), not a coin.
Dustinthewind2 Not only it assumes correct god, but it also assumes good god. With those two additional modifiers it's actually safer NOT to believe when it comes to math.
I just meant if they boiled it down the the basics, which is basically different denominations of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Mormonism and Scientology, Buddhism, and Hinduism.
Pascal's wager would be a good idea in theory but how do you know which god to bet on. What if you wager on Christian god and you met with Krishna? How do you know?
@@dylanwight5764 Krishna: "Oh, so you based the _entirety_ of your moral compass on a religion in turn chosen by way of the greatest moral cowardice and self-interest?.. yeah, no, you're not welcome mate"
The second one can actually be thrown back at them: So God was bored of all the nothingness, so he decided to create the universe. So... what did he do all the time before that?
All of you will burn in Hell for eternity as punishment for your blasphemy!! We all know that Ted was making Mountain Dew!!! I know this because I had a personal experience! He told me in a dream!
i never thought i would actually have a stupid argument like this with someone. yet, today, a co-worker tried to use the wind as an argument. "you cant see the wind, yet you believe it exists. see how stupid you sound when you say i believe in something i cant see (a comment i have never made to him)". he went on and on about how do i know the wind exist if i cant see it and just on and on. if i was prone to headaches, i would have a migraine right now. and the fucked up thing is is that he's a nice and decently intelligent person. it happened two hours ago and im still astounded
+1369Stiles I always call people out on their bullshit, even if it makes everyone really uncomfortable or pissed off. Blind people can't SEE anything, so by this logic nothing exists.
Asking what happened before the big bang in kind of an invalid question because at the moment the big band happened, the laws of the universe break down so much, that not even the notion of time itself makes sense any more.
The difference between conventional logic and religious logic. Conventional logic: "I have a pen" "Oh yeah, prove it to me". "Here it is". Religious logic: "I have a pen". "Oh yeah, prove it to me". "Prove to me I don't".
It's so funny because it's true , this video had me laughing my butt off . It's stupid how some people will believe in the most absurd and ridiculous things and no matter what facts you present to them they'll just come up with bs excuses and illogical reasons to try to justify what they believe .
I just discovered your channel and haven't stopped laughing since I started watching it! keep up the good work I know this is going to be a lot of fun too follow.
Creationist: A computer is a complex invention made by man, meaning the man is more complex so it would require something more complex to be made, therefore God. Me: Ok... So who made God? Creationist: God is above physical and material world, thus he didn't had to be created, he always existed. Me:So If God doesn't fit into the physical world, then he's imaginary? Creationist: *mindblow...* or *use circular arguments*
@@Brugar18 If you feel like you have no need for God then that's fine. But if there are parts of evolution that haven't been explained yet and people still believe in its existence then believing that parts of God can't be explained shouldn't be a red flag either.
@@laddyboi5628 as for evolution it is well proven and so it is a matter of finding out more about it. If we are talking about God, i don't think there is even any reason to attribute anything to him so long as he is not proven to exist. For example: Let's say i believe in big foot and would start attributing of who this big foot is and that simply wouldn't get anywhere since, I would have a burden of proof left to even prove that it exists.
@@Brugar18 Evolution is not a law of science, that's why it isn't 'the law of evolution' and just 'the theory of evolution.' It's the laws of science that are created by proof. There are thousands of things we do every day that only by repetition that we believe the same result can happen again. But we never saw an event the size of the big bang happen before, we only have what some believe to be evidence to support it just as (unlike big foot) there is reason and evidence to support the existence of God.
*Praise the Word of Kamali!* Her message was: + Transmitted across the globe. + Traveled via intangible, ethereal means. + Came from an _ancient_ source. 😉 + Conveyed an important meaning. _And best of all..._ *+ It was clear and understandable.*
The correct answer to "Who are you to question the existence of god(s)?"is .... "Who are you to posit the existence of any god, much less attempt to foist that projection onto others? Bugger off, busybody!"
Great Video. Love 5:17 and 5:31 "everyone who has decided to eliminate junk food from their diet must have never eaten the right junk food." LOL! That about sums it up!
Pascal wager is also bad because when it comes to theism, you don t know which god is real or not...since they are so many. So one could be safe thinking Yahveh but it could be Krishna or Allah or whatever...
Also for #8, Pascal's wager, and the thought of why not just believe in god could be countered by even if you truly decided to believe just in case the odds aren't very good that you chose the right god. Choosing the wrong god is almost worse than choosing no god in many religions.
***** So what your saying is that belief in the correct God is not necessary to reach paradise. So why bother being religious at all, if we can just focus on being moral? And the final question, why pray or go to church when one could be helping others, as both methodologies would get you into paradise, and helping others would allow others a longer life span in which to help others, with the chance of creating a utopia on earth, and getting more people into paradise for their souls. Whilst praying does nothing but (possibly) give you a warm fuzzy feeling?
***** You're aware that banning abortions does not bring abortion rates down, right? All it does it eliminate a safe[r] way for women to get rid of the fetus. Countries who have banned abortions do NOT have lower abortion rates. They do, however, have higher child birth death rates, and higher fatally rates from poor attempts at aborting. You can look that up yourself. If you find something contradictory to what I just said, please give me the link so I can see it for myself. If I don't believe in God, yet still did my best to live a moral life, I'm sure He would forgive me too. After all, He is the one who designed me to be curious, to seek facts, to think logically, and to question everything. I also do not kill babies. I do my best to take it one step further and save the lives of those in danger.
***** Thou shall have no other Gods before me... First commandment if i remember correct.... So it's right in there, the same list that says you shall not kill... so i wouldn't be so sure that god will forgive you if you pray to the wrong deity....
I am saying that if you are a hindu and you pray to shiva (a hindu god) and it turns out that the god from the bible is the real god you are in deep trouble. Even if you have been a good person all your life
Home made cookies are the best! One of my favorites is the peanut butter cookie with a Hershey kiss on top. A handful of those and a tall, cold glass of milk and the world disappears for about 10 minutes.
TheDomcrit If you are me, which I must guess is not very often, peanut butter cookies with Hershey kisses on them and a tall, cold glass of milk IS tantamount to a religious experience. But only if it's whole milk. Not that wuss low fat stuff.
ajs1031 When I was a kid, I would have agreed with the mucus thing but in my teens I outgrew that feature. I had to look up 'heterodyned' but could not connect the discrepancy between a locally generated wave and a different radio frequency wave with how that relates to one's senses. It's cool, I'm sure there is a good message in there, I just couldn't dig it out.
ajs1031 Thank very kindly for the elucidation. "Out of whack" I can understand well enough and as my handle suggests, I'm always up for new data so I'll store that little nugget. Thanks again!
Explaining atheism to the proletariat masses is truly a hard task. Just like explaining communism to someone - there's a difference between totalitarian dictatorship and actual communism. Communism says two things: 1. Work as much as you can. 2. Take as much as you need. Imagine if everyone worked as much as they can instead of the traditional 8 hour schedule. I guess people would work 1-2 hours, if they would work at all. Now, imagine if everyone would take as you need. People would take TONS of food and everything. This is why communism, and marxism in general can never work in a society like this. I respect all kinds of religions, but I hate when Christians in my area assault me with their messages about Jesus etc. and ask me why I'm an atheist. When I respond, they get a bit down and try to avoid talking to me or atleast avoid talking about the same principles of belief anymore. It's stupid.
Ah, you have to study the bible in Ancient Greek or Hebrew. Well how many Christians speak either of those languages, I wonder. I also wonder how many of those have an original Ancient Greek or Hebrew bible to study from. And out of those people who use that argument, how many meet both of these conditions?
I love the incipit of John's gospel in greek tbh - the hymn to logos. Because I'm a logician. "Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος" "In the beginning there was the logos (logic, reasoning, and their vocalization)".
for personal experience part, i was sleeping over with a friend, who was christian i guess. so, at night when she was sleeping, i was watching tv, after few hours i wanted to sleep and wasn't sure how to turn off tv. i tired to wake her up whispering her name but i eventually i figured out without her. Then the next morning she told me how Jesus called for her at night saying her name etc.. i felt so bad, i never told her about the tv thing and just nodded. lol..
I stopped being religious when I realized I was only christian so that I wouldn't burn in hell. That was the biggest wake up call for me like "I'm only believing because I'm scared" so I started looking into science and evidence and proof. I hope that I can live to see the day that it's as ridiculous to not believe in evolution as it is to not believe that the earth if round.
well, i know that this video has some few years old, but, on the argument number 8, i dont use the same answer, im not telling i dont agree, im an antitheist myself, but when religious people say "if im wrong i dont lose anything" its not true, because when a theist is wrong, doesnt mean there is no god, but can also mean that he just worshiped the wrong one, for example if the christian god isnt the right one, doesnt means there is no god, but can mean that allah is real, so his wrong anyway, and will pay the prize. no one can really be safe yet, because we havent proof or disproof the existence of god. loved this video, one of my favourite channels, keep up the good work, please!
In addition, it could mean that they worshipped the wrong way. There are over 10,000 sects of Christianity in the world, each one claiming to be the only true path to heaven. So, even if that god existed, Pascal's wager is still screwed.
If you use it like that, it still works - better take chances with one deity than with none. The videos answer is better. I'd simply used "You don't choose what you believe - in a faith, is it enough to pretend you follow it to get into heaven?"
Saying "you where never a true christan" I'd like telling a vegan, "you where never an omnivore". Not to be rude to the maker of this video but that's a slightly beter way to put it.
The first commandment states, "you shall have no other gods above me" meaning God is the only God you should worship and trust and confide with. His jealousy comes from the fact that if we create gods to worship instead of worshipping the true God, that makes him jealous, not that the other gods already exist.
@@medionlvr God saying in the commandment not to have other gods does not acknowledge that the other gods exist literally but that they existed in the minds of those who rebel against God in the Bible. That's why consistently throughout the Bible it is clear while other gods usually have a physical form and design based on statues or shines depicting them, the God of the Jews was wholly different because there is no actual image of God that was created by the Jews. They simply believed he was real and worshipped him. It's why in Exodus: 32 that the Israelites beg for a statue of a calf to be made so that they can worship something they could see, so Aaron makes one for them while God is giving Moses the ten commandment on mount Sinai. They made it up, the god didn't already exist.
the "who are you to question god" argument oftenly got me shorta stuck when talking to creationists i just didnt know what to say this video helped me alot tnx! :D
For number 9, I would have to argue with anyone who tells me that that they BECAME a Christian only because another human told them about it. I became an Atheist because I realized religion is only a tool of manipulation used by many humans in the past and is still used today to try to gain control. My ten year old sister was scared into submission with the threat of 'burning a fiery lake in hell' by her babysitter when she wouldn't clean her room. My fourteen year old sister was held down against her will so her 'Pastor' grandfather could perform an exorcism on her when she was rebelling like a normal teenager THEN forced her to pray. Both girls were horribly scarred by this. The ten year old started to have panic attacks when she forgot to pray and the fourteen year old wouldn't allow anyone near her after in fear someone would repeat it. It was one of the most heart wrenching times of my life. Religion is abuse, plain and simple. If it wasn't, people wouldn't be throwing around 'if you don't do ____, you'll go to heaven/hell.' to scare others to do what THEY want. And that is also where the Bible plays in. It was created to spread fear of this imaginary being that does all these horrible things so people would try to do what it commands to get on its good side for an eternal reward. I don't need science (Tho am in favor of it) to see this trend in history. It took me to step outside it all and look at religion as a whole to see this.It's not about a god, it's about humans manipulating one another to get what they want. Others will entice you with the lighter side, giving you a sense of wonder and fantasy about this all knowing being who loves you who is everywhere but the moment you step against the grain is when you are taught the impossible consequences of the same being turning on you with terrifying power or another deity who will take you and make you suffer for all eternity. That's if you're lucky. You may learn about the consequences at the same time you learned about the good but since they have already gotten into your head with the good stuff, you'll believe the bad and that will keep you in line. It takes away your right as a free thinking individual and scares you into never questioning what you're told. Those who questioned it in the past were either tortured or killed for doing so which helped instill that fear. With that long ago and far away, I'm surprised there are still so many who don't question the nature of their religion and why there's so many problems with it. Then there are the ones who think that the Bible is nothing but good. Yet there are horror stories that can be picked from it. I rather those who are truly curious to do their own research. You can't claim to have read the Bible and not have found these stories. Maybe after such research, some might actually realize what they've been supporting all this time. I found out on my own, so I think it's best that everyone else does as well. I could care less about any other argument to try to prove some imaginary friend in the sky exists though I do believe every religion started as a telephone game or an ugly rumor that spread like wild fire. I don't believe in filling the gaps with a made up deity that supposedly contradicts everything it does. If you don't know something, just say it. Don't try to make up some bull shit excuse and don't try to twist facts in your favor.
Every religion has those who will use it for their own benefit, and I wish it wasn't true. Christianity at its core is simply this: Believe that Jesus came to earth as a human, died so that you may live and be forgiven of your sin, and rose so that you may be with him one day in heaven. Everything else is secondary in life. The fact that there are practicing Christians who do bad things and use God and the bible to manipulate others is not something that is considered good, but humans have free will, and Christians are just as human as everyone else. It's not an excuse it's an explanation. Some will use free will for good, bad, to become a Christian, or to become an Atheist. (I'm not stating being an Atheist as being bad). But ultimately, God has given you the choice to be an Atheist, and that is exactly why I am Christian. I believe he loves me enough to let me choose, just as he loves you enough to let you choose your own life.
I still wounder how come the Christians and Catholics don't know the name and identity of their god. Worshiping an elusive identity and confusing name of god is really strange to me....
***** It's different, one of the commandments (not going to look it up) says to not have statues of any other person to worship. Christians take this literally and there are no statues of Jesus and such, but Catholics have Jesus and Mary and the whole crew. I think William Wong was referring to the name of the "god" as Yahweh, Allah, or God.
megax65 Catholics are a denomination of Christianity. You're telling me they aren't because they differ from other denominations? By that logic no denomination is part of Christianity. You cannot change facts.
***** They're a division of Christianity, but if I'm correct, Christians say Catholicism is wrong. You can't be yourself and call yourself right and wrong like that. (If I'm right) It's all based off of interpretation. The Church of (I forget which country) allows gay marriage, which most other forms of Christianity will claim it's wrong for that reason.
megax65 Catholics are a denomination of Christianity. Not only that, they were the first form/version of Christianity. So you saying they're a division doesn't make any sense. Also the majority of Christians are catholic. Nothing right now is supporting your non-existent argument. Denominations all disagree with each other and have their differences, that doesn't mean you can magically exclude one for being too different from another.
I have a pacemaker, catheter, and cataract surgery. These products of science and medicine have given me the ability to lead a normal life. I do not think that praying to God would have had the same result!
The quantum vacuum has no time, no space, and no matter or energy of any kind. Yet, virtual particles pop in and out of existence within, and some actually stick, eventually forming something from nothing. The only way that could happen is if there is at least some modicum of time. Therefore, when "we" say that time began at the Big Bang event, we mean time as we know it. Of course, we mean the same thing about the universe when we say it began at the Big Bang. At least Guth, of the Borde, Guth, Valenkin Theorem believed that the universe was most likely infinitely existing/eternal. There are plenty of other scientists who believe the same, though those don't get much air time.
DrPepper5686 I think you are speaking of subjective time. There is a certain "observer effect" when it comes to any discussion of time. But time, as we have come to realize it, is, quite simply, a medium of change. Thus, any change in state tends to imply time.
Well the M-string theory may have an answer to that, but we are still in the middle of finding evidence to support super symmetry (a key part of the theory) but modern particle accelerator technology simply isn't advanced enough, although one science lab will soon be fitted with one of the most advanced particle accelerators ever built but it's still years from being completed
Holy shit! How did you come up with the Ted idea!? Because a couple of uears ago my friends and I were coming up with a fake cult religion to make fun of the Christians at our school! Did you get that from us? Was it a coincidence? Did we get it from the same outside source? Hail Ted
I left school (Here in England) 40 years ago this year .The word 'Creationism' wasn't even in our vocabulary. Evolution was taught as fact and that was that. Is America ,( or at least some parts of it), really so backward?
Palm Suger If you have the occasion to watch an Australian film by the title Young Einstein, you will realise that the bubbles in beer are created by splitting the beer atom into two parts making them lighter. As we all know, splitting atoms can be hazardous and cause vast explosions... At least Ted got it right in the end.
Your right in part. New fossils have come to light showing distinct differences between feathers and scales. I have not kept up on the bird/dinosaur debate lately. Thanks for pointing it out.
Dear Atheists, I have proof for god this time. It`s not a banana but our fingers! our fingers are designed in such a particular way that allows us to give the most offense by putting our middle fingers up! and god is so great he created earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, cancer, ebola, hiv etc
Stalin is talking to a farmer. Stalin says, "how many potatoes have you produced this year?" The farmer replies, "I have grown so many potatoes that if I stack one on top of the other it would reach all the way to god!" Stalin, being stalin, says "But got doesn't exist." The farmer simply said, "Neither does the potatoes."
In the words of Homer Simpson: "What if you choose wrong god? And by going to church every week you make him more and more angry?"
Marko M Yes. What if Quetzalcóatl is the ONE TRUE GOD?
That would mean that all 3 Billion followers of the Abrahamic faiths are going to the Nahuatl hell, wouldn't it?
Condor Boss
Kùkulkan (Can't remember) is the real God!
Here's one for your 21-30 list:
"It's only a theory"
i know i hate that
ajs1031 They don't understand it. That's all.
They put it in the first video.
I swear every time I hear that I want to punch a baby
My favourite is the watch maker argument
I get the "the old testament doesnt matter" argument from Christians all the time, which i find really strange because its always after they`ve defended the adam and eve and noah's ark stories.
+Martin McNeill The Old Testament is amazing. God is such a prick, it's hilarious.
+Martin McNeill Christians have another problem as they claim Jeshuah the illigitimate craftsmen son and "god" was promised in the OT. So throwing out the OT throws out Jeshuah to. I like that approach as who prays to humans. ;)
+Martin McNeill Funny because the new testament says the world would end before a passage of the Old law is revoked. (Matthew 5: 17)
+oTheGalacZo Are you trying to say his comment is flawed because of that bit, adding to the hypocrisy of the statement "the old testament doesn't count.", or idk trolling?
Nero Void Not really, I'm just adding evidence to his argument. Many Christians claim the OT doesn't apply despite that fact the Jesus himself said that it still did 100%. They defend Adam and Eve and the Ten Commandments and yet they say the old testament "doesn't count".
" There are so many illusions that the human brain is capable of creating "
-Richard Dawkins
A guy on the street said "have you found Jesus yet?"
I replied "No, he hides to well form logic..."
I reply "Jesus? You mean the hide and seek champion of the universe? I'm still looking for him."
JEsus!, of course, he is my cousin, and he lives on 5th avenue, he has the best "pachucomobile" in town, you know, the one that has air horns that play "La Cucaracha", air shocks to jump and that "la virgencita" painted on the hood
oh you mean Jesus the "lord and saviour", nope, never met that guy, and frankly don't want to.
He's ahead of Waldo.
You lost him again? Next time nail him down better.
you mean i lost him? maybe he's under my clothes or the pile of papers...
Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense.
- Chapman Cohen
Now your profile pic is Talos.
Yeah? good luck with that! Believers never let a few facts get in the way of their devotion to their fantasy.
Is it possible to have an intelligent conversation about someone’s beliefs without hostility and profanity? There’s a saying that if you have the facts, pound the facts - if you don’t have the facts, pound the table. Anytime you try to tear down someone’s beliefs there will be hostility.
Streetsdisciple001 - Are you saying, as Dawkins advises, laugh at and humiliate people with religious beliefs?
Streetsdisciple001 - I agree with you on giving constructive criticism like when are correcting grammar or posture or historical facts. Ridicule has a connotation of in a laughing manner which few will accept as constructive especially in the areas of religious beliefs.
science
(1)develop theory
(2)test theory
(3)if evidence supports theory continue testing until enough evidence is gathered
(4) if not, change theory to fit evidence
(5)repeat
religion
(1)have holy text
(2) ignore contradicting evidence
(3)reapeat
+max “Mr. Peanut” awsomesause You left out the "kill some folk" part.
well in biblical times yeah but most religious people today aren't killers
+max “Mr. Peanut” awsomesause
You left out the "make up loads of shits" part. :-)
+max “Mr. Peanut” awsomesause Shouldn't it be.
science
(1)develop hypothesis
(2)test hypothesis
(3)if evidence supports hypothesis, elevate status to theory
(4)Continue testing until enough supporting evidence is gathered
(5)If not, formulate new theory that fits the evidence
(6)repeat
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true, it was just supposed to be a jike though
I am more inclined to believe in Alien visitation than in theology... At least that conspiracy has grainy videos.
Also, aliens would be mortal life, which we already know exists. We do not know of any extant deities, however.
great example
Dekkren Kain what about the tilma of our Lady of Guadalupe? What about the events that occurred in front of 70,000 people on site at Fatima in 1917 ( there are grainy pictures) , at Zitun Egypt, ( grainy pictures ).
Day
Yeah,and is odd how nowadays cameras are lousier than those from ww2 yeah aliens are real PLENTY of evidence,right?
@@peakperformancetrain yeah..riight
i hate to be a doctor and save someone's life only to have the patient thank god for saving them. like "bitch, if anything, god got you in this situation. he could've prevented it."
Momma's Muffins A theist thanks God when they win the lottery. An atheist thanks the 1 million people who each gave a dollar.
Fair Witness oh.
Momma's Muffins Next time, don't bother saving a faithtard's life. After all, they think they are already saved.
Momma's Muffins Ive always thought that as well.
+Barry Foster If only it was that easy. If they die, it was God's will, if they survive, God blessed them.
A plane crashes and one man dies. No significance ! A plane crashes and all but one man die. That's a miracle !
A farmer loses 70% of his crop owing to bad weather. Response: Thank God it wasn't worse !
+Bodach Well, that does make a bit of sense, if all but one passenger survived, that mean that the crash wasn't serious enough to cause more death. If all but one dies, it's just statistically unlikely.
+ajs1031 Except serial killers tend to choose targets for specific reasons and are malevolent in nature. A tornado will hit anything in its path and has no alignment.
+Khy Maaren He was treating the situation as if God hypothetically existed. Since the Bible claims God is responsible for everything, if he exists, then the tornado is a direct result of God's actions and aligns with him.
+ajs1031 Ah, a Betty Bowers fan!
I've once heard an even better version of this:
A lightning bolt strikes an atheist and leaves him half-paralyzed. "It was God's punishment! God hates you!"
A lightning bolt strikes a priest and leaves him half-paralyzed. "It's a miracle! He was hit by a lightning and SURVIVED!"
So, yeah.
Praise the all powerful Kamali!
Nina Blaze 🤣🤣
Came here for this comment 😂
I had just typed "All hail the great goddess Kamali!" and saw your comment. You beat me to it. :-O
Kamen😂
Christopher Hitchens was once asked if he ever got tired of debating with religious apologists, to which his answer was, "No. Because you never know what they're going to say next."
Have you ever seen how mad some christians are at Christopher Hitchens? Boy, some of them HATE HIM! Ha Ha We miss you Hitch.
Sean Jones
His old debate videos are all half full of angry Christians celebrating his death and the “fact” that he’s in hell. Despicable, but at least they’re exposing themselves.
He should have said “Yes, because you always know what they’re going to say next.” They have the same 10 talking points
Yes, i saw the video where he said thay. Laughed a lot. Hitch, wish you were here.
As an atheist, I never resorted to Christianity to give me a set of morals. It's always been very simple. Don't mess with others and they won't mess with you. No religion is needed here.
eh, for the most part that's what I got out of Christianity. It's pretty easy to tell the parts that man put in there to control people and which parts were honest to goodness teachings about how to live and treat others. Grew up with a roman catholic family, went to private school the whole nine. I despise the concept of religion myself, but the part where it said do unto others has always stuck with me. If the man Jesus did actually exist I honestly think that's what he was trying to say to people. He went around feeding hungry people and doing good deeds for the sake of doing good deeds. Man is greedy by nature and they contorted the story to fit their own needs. They thought homosexuality was wrong so bam all of a sudden God tells them to write it down that being gay is evil. So I agree with you, but I just think humans got in the way of belief systems teaching to love each other and that's where those rules came from.
Actually, your statement is the foundation of left hand religions.
Ksortakh Kraxthar It just simply makes sense. I'm not convinced religion 'created' all of man's morals. He needed morals for the purpose of survival by getting along with others for the sake of trade. Since when do you really need religion to tell you the obvious? It's not a concept you need to pull out of a book.
Thebuilderofthings1
Err, thing is, you probably are not familiar with the term "left hand religions". They are sorta anti-religions (although that is a simplification, especially when one looks at strange stuff like Thelema). My former post was set in a somewhat funnier mood.
Talking seriously, I'd agree with your opinion, especially in regard to the contents of the bible.
I think morals are something that you learn as you grow by observing and listening to your peers and parents. You don't need religion to tell right from wrong. I mean my dog for example, is beyond obviously not religious, but he knows its wrong to pee on the carpet. He knows not to hurt others, unless protecting someone else or in self-defense. So if animals without religion and/or a close personal relationship (sounds kinda pedophilic) with God can tell right from wrong, then why shouldn't people be able to. I am pretty sure I just sounded like an idiot.
Sad part is I have heard every single one of these 1-21 at least 5 times.
Braden Vankirk Although #2 (or #12 if you include the previous series) sounds highly persuasive to me. I could totally believe in a universe created by an alien frat boy's failed attempt to home brew beer.
It would explain so much. ;)
Dammit, I wasted 2 hours in the damn comment section again!
+Vyndegar Every time...
If you enjoyed it then it’s not time wasted
"You can't disprove god"
Sigh, I'm sick and tired of the shifting of the burden of proof.
That's y u just don't accept the idea of God. Believing God doesn't exist is when u must prove it
No dumbass, we don't have to prove shit. No claim of god was ever done. You people made the claim that god is controlling everything. We ask you to prove it, your best answer is the bible or whatever dumb book said so. We then ask, how do you know the book is correct, your best answer is because the book says it's real. That's not proving anything.
I've never said there isn't a god, I would have the burden of proof to disprove that.
Not believing your idiotic claim isn't the same as claiming your idiotic claim is false.
lol *cough* (triggered), im an atheist as well. if u could comprehend my comment then u would no i said that IF u make the positive claim that God does not exist, then and only then is when the atheist must prove it. hav a lovely day calling people dumbasses :)
You know...I'll admit, I read the comment on my phone and completely missed the context of it. I thought it originally said "That's why you don't accept god. You believing god doesn't exist is when u must prove it"
I can completely admit when i got it wrong.
Yup, you had it right! My bad.
Meth, cocaine, bad weed. Plenty of reasons for it.
"Who are you to question the god?"
What is a peasant to knight?
What is a knight to a king?
What is a king to a God?
What is a God to a nonbeliever?
Tsk tsk tsk. The only reason why you can say this at all is that God is so far above a petty challenge like this that they have no reason to.
I am officially leaving Christianity and joining the Cult of Kamali
sign me up.
Kamali lol.
You will be receiving a welcome email soon. Wait for it.
rebelman, you can't leave what you never had, because you never were saved to start with,
Please sign me in.
Pascal's Wager also fails to recognize that there are thousands of other religions on the planet. Even If Christianity were the only religion in existence, Pascal's Wager still wouldn't make sense.
Has anyone noticed that only creatards don't allow comments? I wonder why, lol 😊
+ajs1031 your post was making me think but then it introduced childish playground stuff I'm afraid you let yourself down.
I wouldn't say "only" but it certainly is mostly. If I watch any video that has comments turned off then I stop watching.
+nathan mckenzie I'm absolutely with you Nathan..
Creatards are creationists + retards.
Why not just call it a creationist? Same thing.
Apoorv Salar I never watch anything with blocked replies, it proves a weak argument.
I just fucking lost it when you said the part about Ted XD
I almost died laughing when I got to ted. that was great.
I worship the sun, but I don't pray to the sun,
I pray to Joe Pesci, He looks like the kind of guy that get things done.
- George Carlin.
Bahahahahhahaha love that guy
Pac0 Master
"God has a special place for you, full of burning, and smoke, and fire, and torture, and torment for ever and ever - but He loves you."
+Chris
I tell creationists that they wouldn't do it to their own children, no matter what they did.
Man do I miss him...😥
Pascal's wager can be used AGAINST faith
It's basicaly one of my main arguments for atheism :D ( I mean of course this is bit of oversimplication but it's really imporant argument for me)
Pascal's wager is so flawed, it doesn't take into account the other religions in the world. It doesn't take into account the other hells, or heavens. You could be wrong on so many levels. It's all a huge gamble.
rcnal22 Even bigger if you don't assume one religion has the right answer already
+rcnal22 Pascal's wager make me think of lot less of Pascal
You can be correct in many things but be incorrect in others. Darwin was completely wrong on DNA.
Just had Pascal's Argument come up in my Philosophy class. Thank you so much for making this video. ;P
Praise Ted!!! And Praise Beer!!! For Ted Created the Universe!!! Lol
and beer
Father Ted - I have sinned , and so must consume Beer. For Beer is from Ted (Pubs Be Upon Him) All-Knowing, and All-Wise. He sacrificed Himself to give us Beer.
Dead Man 456 Praise Ted and Kamali
halleujah
The flying spaghetti monster is our true lord, in the name of cheeses, amen!
Science can explain the orbit of planets and the eye. So no gaps there.
It is true that science can predict the orbits of the planets very accurately. But science has no idea what gravity actually is. General Relativity says that the empty vacuum curves in the presence of matter. In other words, the hard vacuum acts as an elastic medium. GR is highly successful at accurately predicting the behaviour of gravitating bodies and it eliminated the problem of action at a distance. But the nature of gravity itself is a mystery
The presence of science and its proofs doesn't refute the Bible. I myself am Christian and understand that there are laws of science that we can understand. It's the fact that evolution is called "The Theory of Evolution" and not "The law of Evolution" and that every aspect of evolution is up for debate doesn't make it a reliable course for explaining the beginnings of the universe. one being wrong also doesn't make the other right so what do I know...
@@duncanmountford8426 nature of gravity at quantum scale is mystery
Pascal's wager is also flawed because you're assuming you have the right god. There are thousands of gods, so you're not just flipping a coin. Even if you narrowed it down to the top religions, you'd need a D&D multi-sided die (dice), not a coin.
Dustinthewind2 Not only it assumes correct god, but it also assumes good god. With those two additional modifiers it's actually safer NOT to believe when it comes to math.
ShadowManceri I agree.
Actually a over thousand sided die
I just meant if they boiled it down the the basics, which is basically different denominations of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Mormonism and Scientology, Buddhism, and Hinduism.
Pascal's wager would be a good idea in theory but how do you know which god to bet on. What if you wager on Christian god and you met with Krishna? How do you know?
Krishna probably wouldn't care too much and would only judge you by how well you *tried* to live your life.
@@dylanwight5764 Krishna: "Oh, so you based the _entirety_ of your moral compass on a religion in turn chosen by way of the greatest moral cowardice and self-interest?.. yeah, no, you're not welcome mate"
The second one can actually be thrown back at them: So God was bored of all the nothingness, so he decided to create the universe. So... what did he do all the time before that?
When I go back to school I'm gonna be roasting my religion teacher lol xD
That's often recommended in religious texts.......
For "Who are you to question God?" read; "How dare you question my beliefs?"
unsubstantiated theories are great, all hail ted the beer making alien!
Infidel! We all know that Ted only drank liquor!
Ksortakh Kraxthar only made from the finest dark matter.
All of you will burn in Hell for eternity as punishment for your blasphemy!! We all know that Ted was making Mountain Dew!!! I know this because I had a personal experience! He told me in a dream!
bigflamarang All hail! The prophet hath come!
Oh, and btw you should all start worshiping me and giving me your money.
I've heard this one: "You can't prove everything with facts." Seriously, a preacher said this to me.
had something similar said to me i replied with "prove it"
Damn, I guess facts aren't true anymore lol.
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@@TheLizardOfOz Thank you for that; it gave me a good laugh in an otherwise dull day!
@@genericegg7135 They said it best on MST3K; "Space is warped and time is bendable."
Praise Kamali!
Praise the flying spaghetti monster
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. For doing these videos.
i never thought i would actually have a stupid argument like this with someone. yet, today, a co-worker tried to use the wind as an argument. "you cant see the wind, yet you believe it exists. see how stupid you sound when you say i believe in something i cant see (a comment i have never made to him)". he went on and on about how do i know the wind exist if i cant see it and just on and on. if i was prone to headaches, i would have a migraine right now. and the fucked up thing is is that he's a nice and decently intelligent person. it happened two hours ago and im still astounded
+1369Stiles
I always call people out on their bullshit, even if it makes everyone really uncomfortable or pissed off.
Blind people can't SEE anything, so by this logic nothing exists.
Just found this channel and I think I'm in love :')
This production is AWESOME. Same for the first part.
Would’ve loved to see a part 3
Asking what happened before the big bang in kind of an invalid question because at the moment the big band happened, the laws of the universe break down so much, that not even the notion of time itself makes sense any more.
I wish this channel made short videos like this more often; nowadays they usually just release hour+ long podcasts. Ain't nobody got time for that,
The difference between conventional logic and religious logic.
Conventional logic: "I have a pen"
"Oh yeah, prove it to me".
"Here it is".
Religious logic: "I have a pen".
"Oh yeah, prove it to me".
"Prove to me I don't".
anyone who gets to be 99 yo in Zimbabwe has got my respects
It's so funny because it's true , this video had me laughing my butt off . It's stupid how some people will believe in the most absurd and ridiculous things and no matter what facts you present to them they'll just come up with bs excuses and illogical reasons to try to justify what they believe .
Ted will become well known throughout youtube and the rest of the internet. This I promise.
...And Barbara Streisand at 4:32.
Wait, that's a difference in theology. Do we have to go to war now? Bummer.
Haz Matt Ted's drunk right now so I will have to get back to you about any potential Jihad.
Ron Nicolas LOL. Awesome.
Seth, 11 years later this is still a hoot and still true.
I just discovered your channel and haven't stopped laughing since I started watching it! keep up the good work I know this is going to be a lot of fun too follow.
Creationist: A computer is a complex invention made by man, meaning the man is more complex so it would require something more complex to be made, therefore God.
Me: Ok... So who made God?
Creationist: God is above physical and material world, thus he didn't had to be created, he always existed.
Me:So If God doesn't fit into the physical world, then he's imaginary?
Creationist: *mindblow...* or *use circular arguments*
If we were fully able to understand how God came to be then we wouldn't have any doubt in our mind that there would be one.
@@laddyboi5628 yeah, but understanding god isnt really necesary since no one jas actually ahow he exist in first place
@@Brugar18 If you feel like you have no need for God then that's fine. But if there are parts of evolution that haven't been explained yet and people still believe in its existence then believing that parts of God can't be explained shouldn't be a red flag either.
@@laddyboi5628 as for evolution it is well proven and so it is a matter of finding out more about it. If we are talking about God, i don't think there is even any reason to attribute anything to him so long as he is not proven to exist.
For example: Let's say i believe in big foot and would start attributing of who this big foot is and that simply wouldn't get anywhere since, I would have a burden of proof left to even prove that it exists.
@@Brugar18 Evolution is not a law of science, that's why it isn't 'the law of evolution' and just 'the theory of evolution.' It's the laws of science that are created by proof. There are thousands of things we do every day that only by repetition that we believe the same result can happen again. But we never saw an event the size of the big bang happen before, we only have what some believe to be evidence to support it just as (unlike big foot) there is reason and evidence to support the existence of God.
please make a third one!!!
Thank you for existing!!!
*Praise the Word of Kamali!*
Her message was:
+ Transmitted across the globe.
+ Traveled via intangible, ethereal means.
+ Came from an _ancient_ source. 😉
+ Conveyed an important meaning.
_And best of all..._
*+ It was clear and understandable.*
why is the eye considered so complex
its a lens, pinhole and light receptors. yes it works quite well, but its a fairly basic machine
And the human eye isn't even that good. There are MANY MANY MANY animals that have MUCH MUCH better eyes than us
While there are many debates going on in the comments, I wanted to say that I immediately recognized the music at 6:07 from Starfox Adventures.
The correct answer to "Who are you to question the existence of god(s)?"is ....
"Who are you to posit the existence of any god, much less attempt to foist that projection onto others? Bugger off, busybody!"
Inspiring Philosophy - "Hurr durr, its not god of the gaps, you're just doing god of the material gaps!!! I'm big brain smart".
and that whole "God did it" attitude is exactly what's holding the human race, as a species, back.
TheThinkingAtheist 2 - Creationists 0 Thank you, I enjoyed that very much!
Great Video. Love 5:17 and 5:31 "everyone who has decided to eliminate junk food from their diet must have never eaten the right junk food." LOL! That about sums it up!
Age of Mythology art thumbnail brought me here, still not disappointed.
Pascal wager is also bad because when it comes to theism, you don t know which god is real or not...since they are so many.
So one could be safe thinking Yahveh but it could be Krishna or Allah or whatever...
Also for #8, Pascal's wager, and the thought of why not just believe in god could be countered by even if you truly decided to believe just in case the odds aren't very good that you chose the right god. Choosing the wrong god is almost worse than choosing no god in many religions.
*****
So what your saying is that belief in the correct God is not necessary to reach paradise. So why bother being religious at all, if we can just focus on being moral? And the final question, why pray or go to church when one could be helping others, as both methodologies would get you into paradise, and helping others would allow others a longer life span in which to help others, with the chance of creating a utopia on earth, and getting more people into paradise for their souls. Whilst praying does nothing but (possibly) give you a warm fuzzy feeling?
***** You're aware that banning abortions does not bring abortion rates down, right? All it does it eliminate a safe[r] way for women to get rid of the fetus. Countries who have banned abortions do NOT have lower abortion rates. They do, however, have higher child birth death rates, and higher fatally rates from poor attempts at aborting. You can look that up yourself. If you find something contradictory to what I just said, please give me the link so I can see it for myself.
If I don't believe in God, yet still did my best to live a moral life, I'm sure He would forgive me too. After all, He is the one who designed me to be curious, to seek facts, to think logically, and to question everything. I also do not kill babies. I do my best to take it one step further and save the lives of those in danger.
***** Thou shall have no other Gods before me... First commandment if i remember correct.... So it's right in there, the same list that says you shall not kill... so i wouldn't be so sure that god will forgive you if you pray to the wrong deity....
***** So if you pray to Shiva and it turns out to be the god of Abraham, you are pretty much frelled...
I am saying that if you are a hindu and you pray to shiva (a hindu god) and it turns out that the god from the bible is the real god you are in deep trouble. Even if you have been a good person all your life
You took it out of context I'm LOLing my ass off right now!!!
Home made cookies are the best! One of my favorites is the peanut butter cookie with a Hershey kiss on top. A handful of those and a tall, cold glass of milk and the world disappears for about 10 minutes.
That must be how it feels for religious people but permanently! How lucky they are with their warped world view and belief in fairy-tales!
TheDomcrit
If you are me, which I must guess is not very often, peanut butter cookies with Hershey kisses on them and a tall, cold glass of milk IS tantamount to a religious experience. But only if it's whole milk. Not that wuss low fat stuff.
ajs1031 When I was a kid, I would have agreed with the mucus thing but in my teens I outgrew that feature. I had to look up 'heterodyned' but could not connect the discrepancy between a locally generated wave and a different radio frequency wave with how that relates to one's senses. It's cool, I'm sure there is a good message in there, I just couldn't dig it out.
ajs1031 Thank very kindly for the elucidation. "Out of whack" I can understand well enough and as my handle suggests, I'm always up for new data so I'll store that little nugget. Thanks again!
danbau08
ajs1031 Thank you! That back and for between you was hilarious! I laughed my throat sore. Thanks again.
It seems muslims have borrowed these excuse from christians.
Explaining atheism to the proletariat masses is truly a hard task.
Just like explaining communism to someone - there's a difference between totalitarian dictatorship and actual communism.
Communism says two things:
1. Work as much as you can.
2. Take as much as you need.
Imagine if everyone worked as much as they can instead of the traditional 8 hour schedule. I guess people would work 1-2 hours, if they would work at all. Now, imagine if everyone would take as you need. People would take TONS of food and everything. This is why communism, and marxism in general can never work in a society like this.
I respect all kinds of religions, but I hate when Christians in my area assault me with their messages about Jesus etc. and ask me why I'm an atheist. When I respond, they get a bit down and try to avoid talking to me or atleast avoid talking about the same principles of belief anymore. It's stupid.
ajs1031
Like it!
Point #10 was the very thing that first got me doubting the Bible. I'm so glad you included that.
Haha, the love theme from Airplane! cracks me up every time 🤣
Ah, you have to study the bible in Ancient Greek or Hebrew. Well how many Christians speak either of those languages, I wonder. I also wonder how many of those have an original Ancient Greek or Hebrew bible to study from. And out of those people who use that argument, how many meet both of these conditions?
I love the incipit of John's gospel in greek tbh - the hymn to logos. Because I'm a logician.
"Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος"
"In the beginning there was the logos (logic, reasoning, and their vocalization)".
for personal experience part, i was sleeping over with a friend, who was christian i guess. so, at night when she was sleeping, i was watching tv, after few hours i wanted to sleep and wasn't sure how to turn off tv. i tired to wake her up whispering her name but i eventually i figured out without her.
Then the next morning she told me how Jesus called for her at night saying her name etc.. i felt so bad, i never told her about the tv thing and just nodded. lol..
Would have been funny to tell. "Umm... You know... Well... That was no Jebus"
Doughno TD didn't want to break her heart. lol
Nisa Perera understandable
I stopped being religious when I realized I was only christian so that I wouldn't burn in hell. That was the biggest wake up call for me like "I'm only believing because I'm scared" so I started looking into science and evidence and proof. I hope that I can live to see the day that it's as ridiculous to not believe in evolution as it is to not believe that the earth if round.
hahaha this is so awesome thank you, can't wait to check out your site!
well, i know that this video has some few years old, but, on the argument number 8, i dont use the same answer, im not telling i dont agree, im an antitheist myself, but when religious people say "if im wrong i dont lose anything" its not true, because when a theist is wrong, doesnt mean there is no god, but can also mean that he just worshiped the wrong one, for example if the christian god isnt the right one, doesnt means there is no god, but can mean that allah is real, so his wrong anyway, and will pay the prize. no one can really be safe yet, because we havent proof or disproof the existence of god. loved this video, one of my favourite channels, keep up the good work, please!
In addition, it could mean that they worshipped the wrong way. There are over 10,000 sects of Christianity in the world, each one claiming to be the only true path to heaven. So, even if that god existed, Pascal's wager is still screwed.
exacly ! i use that argument specialy with Catholics because they just choose to ignore some of the commandments, and the most part of the bible
If you use it like that, it still works - better take chances with one deity than with none. The videos answer is better. I'd simply used "You don't choose what you believe - in a faith, is it enough to pretend you follow it to get into heaven?"
Even if there is no god at all, the religious person will have wasted his one incredible existence on petty bullshit.
This is the solution (albeit long winded) to why Pascals Wager fails.
Saying "you where never a true christan" I'd like telling a vegan, "you where never an omnivore". Not to be rude to the maker of this video but that's a slightly beter way to put it.
I grew up Christian. The holes are so glaringly obvious to me now. Still finding it hard to deconstruct. What a con.
To quote Richard Dawkins,
"Today the Theory of Evolution is about as much open to doubt as the theory that the Earth orbits the Sun."
you missed one. The 1st of the ten commandments allows for other gods
The first commandment states, "you shall have no other gods above me" meaning God is the only God you should worship and trust and confide with. His jealousy comes from the fact that if we create gods to worship instead of worshipping the true God, that makes him jealous, not that the other gods already exist.
@@laddyboi5628 still allows for other gods AND acknowledges that there are other gods
@@medionlvr God saying in the commandment not to have other gods does not acknowledge that the other gods exist literally but that they existed in the minds of those who rebel against God in the Bible. That's why consistently throughout the Bible it is clear while other gods usually have a physical form and design based on statues or shines depicting them, the God of the Jews was wholly different because there is no actual image of God that was created by the Jews. They simply believed he was real and worshipped him. It's why in Exodus: 32 that the Israelites beg for a statue of a calf to be made so that they can worship something they could see, so Aaron makes one for them while God is giving Moses the ten commandment on mount Sinai. They made it up, the god didn't already exist.
@@laddyboi5628 still give acknowledgment of them.
@@medionlvr Yes. It does.
holy shit the ted thing just killed me
I feel so much better now that I know where TED talks came from.
Amen
the "who are you to question god" argument oftenly got me shorta stuck when talking to creationists i just didnt know what to say this video helped me alot tnx! :D
For number 9, I would have to argue with anyone who tells me that that they BECAME a Christian only because another human told them about it. I became an Atheist because I realized religion is only a tool of manipulation used by many humans in the past and is still used today to try to gain control.
My ten year old sister was scared into submission with the threat of 'burning a fiery lake in hell' by her babysitter when she wouldn't clean her room. My fourteen year old sister was held down against her will so her 'Pastor' grandfather could perform an exorcism on her when she was rebelling like a normal teenager THEN forced her to pray. Both girls were horribly scarred by this. The ten year old started to have panic attacks when she forgot to pray and the fourteen year old wouldn't allow anyone near her after in fear someone would repeat it. It was one of the most heart wrenching times of my life.
Religion is abuse, plain and simple. If it wasn't, people wouldn't be throwing around 'if you don't do ____, you'll go to heaven/hell.' to scare others to do what THEY want. And that is also where the Bible plays in. It was created to spread fear of this imaginary being that does all these horrible things so people would try to do what it commands to get on its good side for an eternal reward. I don't need science (Tho am in favor of it) to see this trend in history. It took me to step outside it all and look at religion as a whole to see this.It's not about a god, it's about humans manipulating one another to get what they want.
Others will entice you with the lighter side, giving you a sense of wonder and fantasy about this all knowing being who loves you who is everywhere but the moment you step against the grain is when you are taught the impossible consequences of the same being turning on you with terrifying power or another deity who will take you and make you suffer for all eternity. That's if you're lucky. You may learn about the consequences at the same time you learned about the good but since they have already gotten into your head with the good stuff, you'll believe the bad and that will keep you in line. It takes away your right as a free thinking individual and scares you into never questioning what you're told.
Those who questioned it in the past were either tortured or killed for doing so which helped instill that fear. With that long ago and far away, I'm surprised there are still so many who don't question the nature of their religion and why there's so many problems with it.
Then there are the ones who think that the Bible is nothing but good. Yet there are horror stories that can be picked from it. I rather those who are truly curious to do their own research. You can't claim to have read the Bible and not have found these stories. Maybe after such research, some might actually realize what they've been supporting all this time. I found out on my own, so I think it's best that everyone else does as well.
I could care less about any other argument to try to prove some imaginary friend in the sky exists though I do believe every religion started as a telephone game or an ugly rumor that spread like wild fire.
I don't believe in filling the gaps with a made up deity that supposedly contradicts everything it does. If you don't know something, just say it. Don't try to make up some bull shit excuse and don't try to twist facts in your favor.
Every religion has those who will use it for their own benefit, and I wish it wasn't true. Christianity at its core is simply this:
Believe that Jesus came to earth as a human, died so that you may live and be forgiven of your sin, and rose so that you may be with him one day in heaven.
Everything else is secondary in life. The fact that there are practicing Christians who do bad things and use God and the bible to manipulate others is not something that is considered good, but humans have free will, and Christians are just as human as everyone else. It's not an excuse it's an explanation. Some will use free will for good, bad, to become a Christian, or to become an Atheist. (I'm not stating being an Atheist as being bad). But ultimately, God has given you the choice to be an Atheist, and that is exactly why I am Christian. I believe he loves me enough to let me choose, just as he loves you enough to let you choose your own life.
I still wounder how come the Christians and Catholics don't know the name and identity of their god. Worshiping an elusive identity and confusing name of god is really strange to me....
Catholics are Christians.
***** It's different, one of the commandments (not going to look it up) says to not have statues of any other person to worship. Christians take this literally and there are no statues of Jesus and such, but Catholics have Jesus and Mary and the whole crew. I think William Wong was referring to the name of the "god" as Yahweh, Allah, or God.
megax65 Catholics are a denomination of Christianity. You're telling me they aren't because they differ from other denominations? By that logic no denomination is part of Christianity. You cannot change facts.
***** They're a division of Christianity, but if I'm correct, Christians say Catholicism is wrong. You can't be yourself and call yourself right and wrong like that. (If I'm right) It's all based off of interpretation. The Church of (I forget which country) allows gay marriage, which most other forms of Christianity will claim it's wrong for that reason.
megax65 Catholics are a denomination of Christianity. Not only that, they were the first form/version of Christianity. So you saying they're a division doesn't make any sense. Also the majority of Christians are catholic. Nothing right now is supporting your non-existent argument. Denominations all disagree with each other and have their differences, that doesn't mean you can magically exclude one for being too different from another.
Dat Op 70 Chopin Waltz you played by the pascal's wager section. Gotta give you props for that. That's my favorite waltz!
I have a pacemaker, catheter, and cataract surgery. These products of science and medicine have given me the ability to lead a normal life. I do not think that praying to God would have had the same result!
I thought it was impossible for something to come before the Big Bang because time began then?
well we dont know if there is a "before the big bang"
The quantum vacuum has no time, no space, and no matter or energy of any kind. Yet, virtual particles pop in and out of existence within, and some actually stick, eventually forming something from nothing. The only way that could happen is if there is at least some modicum of time.
Therefore, when "we" say that time began at the Big Bang event, we mean time as we know it. Of course, we mean the same thing about the universe when we say it began at the Big Bang. At least Guth, of the Borde, Guth, Valenkin Theorem believed that the universe was most likely infinitely existing/eternal. There are plenty of other scientists who believe the same, though those don't get much air time.
Well this subject is very philosophical when you think about it...
DrPepper5686
I think you are speaking of subjective time. There is a certain "observer effect" when it comes to any discussion of time. But time, as we have come to realize it, is, quite simply, a medium of change. Thus, any change in state tends to imply time.
Well the M-string theory may have an answer to that, but we are still in the middle of finding evidence to support super symmetry (a key part of the theory) but modern particle accelerator technology simply isn't advanced enough, although one science lab will soon be fitted with one of the most advanced particle accelerators ever built but it's still years from being completed
Holy shit! How did you come up with the Ted idea!? Because a couple of uears ago my friends and I were coming up with a fake cult religion to make fun of the Christians at our school! Did you get that from us? Was it a coincidence? Did we get it from the same outside source?
Hail Ted
Another brilliant video! Well done!
Becoming free from Christianity was the best process I've ever been through.
Also, that unexpected number 11 really tickled me
God bless you for a god job I mean good job.
I left school (Here in England) 40 years ago this year .The word 'Creationism' wasn't even in our vocabulary. Evolution was taught as fact and that was that. Is America ,( or at least some parts of it), really so backward?
Yes... yes they are.
I'm from Canada, and I think they're full of it.
Looks like they are, Living in Quebec and the only religious related stuff I've learn was not about creationism. Plus, it was over 10 years ago
I hate it here.
The USA has the Ark Encounter. The Europeans have the Large Hadron Collider. Have I answered your question?
I can't say enough how awesome you are! Keep 'em coming! (I know you will!)
Another good one. "Were you there?" Referring to the events in the past that lead to our present state of the universe, Earth, & life.
Yes I was. You can not prove that I wasn't so it must be true!
Ted is my new God
Seems reasonable although I have doubts about his beer making skills what with the blowing up of his apartment and all.
Kamali is my God
rob bernard How the hell did he blow up his apartment with a glass of beer, He must be an extraterrestrial explosives expert.
Palm Suger
If you have the occasion to watch an Australian film by the title Young Einstein, you will realise that the bubbles in beer are created by splitting the beer atom into two parts making them lighter. As we all know, splitting atoms can be hazardous and cause vast explosions... At least Ted got it right in the end.
Palm Suger
beer works in a mysterious ways:D
If you want to solve the maze at 5:48, it's basically an "L" shape if you start from the finish line... just sayin'. :-)
Your right in part. New fossils have come to light showing distinct differences between feathers and scales. I have not kept up on the bird/dinosaur debate lately. Thanks for pointing it out.
I accidently found this video at it's 9 year anniversary.
I worship Obama.
Evan Biesaga we all do
ajs1031 how dare you question our lord!!!!!!!
Ajs... You just took it out of context
Watch the video and you'll get it, one of the top creationist arguments is "you just took it out of context"
+Evan Biesaga you are a fucking freak
Dear Atheists, I have proof for god this time. It`s not a banana but our fingers! our fingers are designed in such a particular way that allows us to give the most offense by putting our middle fingers up! and god is so great he created earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, cancer, ebola, hiv etc
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yea m8
Blaz0r Gaming dayum, i was reading and thought "damn, not another argument from ignorance" then i saw the sarcasm, gr8 b8 m8, i r8 8/8.
Captain Alpha
ty m8 I worked hard
As long as you accept Kamali as your savior, you will be granted ETERNAL LIFE! Praise be to Kamali most high
Stalin is talking to a farmer. Stalin says, "how many potatoes have you produced this year?" The farmer replies, "I have grown so many potatoes that if I stack one on top of the other it would reach all the way to god!" Stalin, being stalin, says "But got doesn't exist." The farmer simply said, "Neither does the potatoes."