ableton push MINI midi controller literally already exists (or at least it could)

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  • @namasudra
    @namasudra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Hey Taetro, I have been using Circuit as a MIDI controller for quite a time now. I have also made my own Companion MIDI controller to go along with the Circuit to have a feel like I'm using a Push. I have a playlist on my channel on how I use my Circuit. Just in case if u get time. 😊

  • @Randuski
    @Randuski 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Coming back to this video today, because I had a really annoying thought. Push 3 was obviously announced, which can be standalone. Awesome. Ableton also has the ableton Note app. Ableton is in the perfect position to not only release their own Push Mini, but also a Push Mini “standalone”. If they added a little spot to hold your phone on the controller, then you could connect your phone with a little cable, and boom. Standalone Push Mini. Even more, it would be significantly more powerful than the circuit tracks, cause your phone is way more powerful. When you plug in the phone, ableton Note could change its display mode so it functions as a browser window, and navigation, and knob labeling and such.
    And then you can sync your project to the cloud, plug the push mini to your computer, and open the project.
    Just had to vent. I want ableton to do that so bad. Cause ableton note is actually a pretty cool app. But with a fully integrated controller it would be sick.
    Our phones are incredibly powerful, and I feel like companies could take better advantage of that, and instead of making a groove box with kinda eh software, they could make a cool controller with incredibly powerful software, cause the software runs on your phone

  • @nomad1517
    @nomad1517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, again as you said, push is 5 years old. When it came out it was revolutionary. It's big because it's really for live performance, hence Ableton live. Nobody is going to go, wow look at that tiny little pad thing. When you pull out push 2 there going to be like "damn son, where did you park your space ship?" Plus with it's screen you can actually see what you are selecting. The pads aren't tiny as hell. It's bulid quality makes it a great self defense weapon and could probably stop a bullet. If you're buying something that expensive, you're probably a legit musician so you're most likely going to buy a deck saver and a DJ back pack or case for it and not some back pack from pacsun or ccs skate shop. But if they had a mini version, that would be a marvel in it's self.

  • @skirwan78
    @skirwan78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're a pleasure to watch and listen to. Maybe it's not something people look for, but you take some of the stress out of sitting down with ableton and my controller and just playing around and spending time with it. There's such a push for "productivity" in all things these days that sometimes it's nice to just let some tension go and just enjoy being in the moment with whatever you're working on. Glad I found your channel, cheers!

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thank you so much Vahlir!! This is the kindest comment I’ve received in some time.

  • @djofortunato5799
    @djofortunato5799 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Coming back after a year w Tracks and Push. Not sure if fourths mode is somehow proprietary to Ableton but - I’ve learned both and agree. Having a fourths mode update would massively be valuable to Circuit tracks users 👍

  • @The5StringFury
    @The5StringFury 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have a Push 1 that I got used at Guitar Center. I've low key been waiting on Push 3 to come out to drop the price of the Push 2. In the mean time I've really been checking out the Circuit Tracks and potentially the Circuit Rhythm due to come out this summer. If the Circuit Tracks integrated with Ableton Like the push it would be an instant impulse buy no question. Great Video, looking forward to other rants!

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      push 1 is great!! I think a lot of people would instantly buy the circuit tracks if it worked in that way for sure !

  • @mildheadwound
    @mildheadwound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Launchpad pro 3 does exactly what you are talking about, but it has 4 sequencers not 2, plus Note and chord modes. It's not so mini though, but plays very nice.

  • @quantumphlo3541
    @quantumphlo3541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great ideas Taetro! I haven't bought a Push 2 yet because of the lack of portability and I haven't bought Circuit Tracks because of lack of Ableton integration. I'd really like to see an actual Portable Push Mini with 32 RGB pads and a smaller screen but if they upped Circuit Tracks to have the same level of DAW integration that would be an appealing option especially since it's also a standalone groovebox. Also I can't believe they don't have a 4ths mode in Tracks!!!

  • @beatsmithaudio9245
    @beatsmithaudio9245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A push mini would be killer

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      for real!!

    • @LukezyM
      @LukezyM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      8x4 pad matrix, endless encoders and a screen = Push Mini! Let’s write to Ableton support and beg.

    • @beatsmithaudio9245
      @beatsmithaudio9245 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukezyM I’m in!

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LukezyM I don’t even need a screen!!

  • @teddybearasaurus
    @teddybearasaurus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the circuit you can program steps in to button combinations. This means you can create old finger style chords per pad meaning you can easily program a progression into 4-6 pads. The sound test room, a long time ago I think, showed the circuit as a mini controller and thats the thing I pulled from it.

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah that's a neat feature but not exactly the same as being able to fluidly play chords live

  • @therealzyrix
    @therealzyrix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    100% agree with this, I'm a huge fan of "all in one" options and this seems like a missed opportunity on their part. There are so many devices that if they added one more feature or tweak would be a game changer. More rants please :)

  • @devilsthumb
    @devilsthumb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    taetro, i’ve been suffering from a lot of gas lately…. 💩🔥 and this video couldn’t be more timely, as my Gear Acquisition Syndrome led me to pick up an og circuit over the weekend. loving it already, so fun, but if it had that integration, it really would be an extraordinary machine, rather than the simply outstanding instrument it is.

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      excellently put!

  • @Randuski
    @Randuski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legit that would be a dream. Push is amazing but yea it's huge. In the studio it's great, but i like making beats on my couch, and when I'm out and about. A push mini would be so killer

  • @brunoberndtguitar
    @brunoberndtguitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to see a video putting the Push 2 up against the Launchpad pro mk3 and the Launch Control xl. The 2 Novation controllers cost less than $500 together, and while the Push comes perfectly integrated with Ableton out of the box, I feel like the 8 pages of faders and knobs on the Launch Control + the daw control functionalities on the Launchpad pro give you a lot more control over the software, especially on a live performance setting.

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this is a really good point!

    • @glennharrall8655
      @glennharrall8655 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Push 1 is available very cheaply these days on the used market and I would take Push 1 over any launchpad any day of the week. I have the push 1 and its great (and it was cheap!)

  • @SkidmarkStan821
    @SkidmarkStan821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh wow that is awesome!!! Never knew it existed, thanks!!!

  • @BrianOuellette19
    @BrianOuellette19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This needs to happen. I was so disappointed to see I couldn't use a grid mode for notes on the tracks.

  • @oddsurfboards
    @oddsurfboards 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a thought on an old vid now.
    The rhythm gives you right tracks of midi over the tracks 4 plus drums

  • @DerRegulator6
    @DerRegulator6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The day I bought the circuit tracks I hoped to see a script for controlling Ableton. It would be a dream. Hopefully Novation finds your video and they adapt your wishes. Great Video👌

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope so too!

    • @homunduruk2530
      @homunduruk2530 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Taetro Not to kill your hopes. But OG Circuit could do the same thing. But Novation is not going to add those features since they already have launchpad series for that purpose :(

  • @owizlo
    @owizlo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a push 1 i got used at guitar center as well. paid 240 shipped. there needs to be a push 3 mini. this is absurd. also the time since push 2 is absurd. i think you hit the nail's head. it is business and push2's price. they cant release anything with the integration of push 2 or it wouldnt sell. on point.

  • @ePaXoY
    @ePaXoY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this made me realize how good ableton push is

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      for real!!

  • @sunglint
    @sunglint 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like you're suggesting something like a maschine mikro... and you're right. That said, you can do most of that with a launchpad, so... I picked up the tracks so I didn't have to use my computer. What would be cool would be a maschine+ push 2 :)

  • @juliemoore36
    @juliemoore36 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Taetro. I love your videos and have learned so much from you. Thanks for all that you give to the world. I'm curious if Novation has yet added the fourths note mode to Circuit Tracks that you highly emphasize is needed. A portable, mini Push would be fabulous.

  • @DopamineOverload
    @DopamineOverload 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    DIGGING these Taetro Rants. You're human, like the rest of us!

  • @WhiteWhiskerMusica
    @WhiteWhiskerMusica 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The one thing i wish my tracks had (which will likely be available on the Rhythm, if not something they could even update with firmware later) is being able to change start point of a sample, but more ableton integration with the tracks while keeping its current functions would make the price be close to push 2 anyway, no? Not to mention they have already slimmed it down a lot from the original circuit, with even more functionality already. Adding a screen, plus whatever internals would be needed to support the screen and ableton, I feel like we would kinda come halfway between Push and Tracks in both size and price.
    I understand the appeal of Push 2 though, for those 'crate digger' types that want the aesthetic and functionality of an all in one MPC style unit that still want to use a computer. For those that just need a nice small pad keyboard and controller for anything besides chopping samples though, launchpad mini is like $100 now? launchpad x like $180?
    tl;dr: Id personally love this dream machine youre talking about as well, but seems like a lot to ask with a reasonable price tag. But also I dont know shit, maybe if this video gets enough traction before they decide to update Push again they will release a half-size option too and I will have you to thank for that 😅
    www.synthanatomy.com/2020/09/ableton-push-3-leak-standalone-groovebox-midi-controller.html

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hopefully all these things could be implemented via firmware, not changing the hardware, and hopefully not changing the cost :X

  • @AsterisqBeats
    @AsterisqBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This wouldve been amazing if integration allowed compelte control over the effects rack which is what I use to perform. Still cool!

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes that too!

  • @JakeSweeper
    @JakeSweeper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That would be a helluva firmware update if Novation set it up to do that.

  • @Labyrinth1010
    @Labyrinth1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know misusing the word ‘literally’ is common as f**k, but this takes it to a whole new level.

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      literally an awesome comment

  • @GrootsieTheDog
    @GrootsieTheDog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m selling my Keystep pro and buying the Tracks to control my hardware synths. Not really into keyboards (unless I’m playing a real piano) I personally like the octave row over the fourths set up. I usually use one or two chords in my minimalist music so not really a biggy. I’m sure Novation will upgrade the pad layout option :)

  • @lacramitus2128
    @lacramitus2128 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting topic. Would love more type of these videos.

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      more to come for sure!

  • @joelsilva6689
    @joelsilva6689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NOVATION... ARE YOU LISTENING???

  • @jonasrsted6785
    @jonasrsted6785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the rants

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      more to come!

  • @hiddentechno8266
    @hiddentechno8266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well there is also the Akai Fire which had the Crossfire script that worked great with Ableton 10.
    The issue is now that it doesnt work with Ableton 11.

  • @physicalmedia1981
    @physicalmedia1981 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Taetro u re Master...i think im gonna buy circuit tracks
    Tnx for this( very usefu)

  • @Bashanvibe
    @Bashanvibe ปีที่แล้ว

    As a keyboard player I wouldn’t need to play chords with the the pads it would restrict me but for everything else I’m with it!!!

  • @UnrealOcean
    @UnrealOcean 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @ableton we need a push mini!

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      STILL NEED IT

  • @cokecl
    @cokecl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We would need an open source firmware for that. As not all the buttons transmit midi

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      good to know!

  • @VHG1993
    @VHG1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just want a cheaper device that comes with the "Fixed Length" button so I can loop audio on ableton

    • @PatrickMurphy2
      @PatrickMurphy2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      have you checked out Taetro's Akai MINI sustain pedal video? I use that same setup to loop my guitar and it works awesome!

    • @erachangzzz
      @erachangzzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can create your own in M4L

    • @cokecl
      @cokecl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean?

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I totally agree! for midi you can create empty clips in your tracks and record overdub into them live , but can't do that for audio!!

    • @Hoodyhoo504
      @Hoodyhoo504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LP Pro Mk3 is the closest thing right now. It has Fixed Length and a sequencer.

  • @treyhudson73
    @treyhudson73 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I definitely need to upgrade to Tracks.

    • @cokecl
      @cokecl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Be aware most of the things discussed here are not possible on the circuit tracks. It's a great groovebox. But not so great Ableton controller.

  • @dasczwo
    @dasczwo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! Got my circuit tracks yesterday, and its a bit meh soundwise. Loolking to integrate it with volcas. Novation: give us a custom mode like with the launchpad. Please. And ím all for the push mini idea. As the product dtands no ím thinking of returning it and getting a used circuit og.

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i agree that the circuit's sound engine definitely leaves something to be desired especially for contemporary music BUT
      don't return for the circuit og if you're expecting better sound! it's essentially the same synth engine - take advantage of being able to run your voclas through the tracks!!

  • @LyroLife
    @LyroLife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just wanna use it as a MIDI Controler for ableton. How well can you control ableton with it out of the box?

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not the best option by far

  • @ApolloMclaren
    @ApolloMclaren 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just plan on using a surface pro and a 12v battery pack when I get my push. Im 99% sure it should work

  • @localfarang
    @localfarang 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally someone made a video discussing this haha cheers

  • @patrickploenzke489
    @patrickploenzke489 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES but. FIXED LOOP Lenght???

  • @Dekkie61
    @Dekkie61 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Teatro.
    Pretty sure Novation simply doesn't want to make Tracks into an Ableton controller. Who'd still buy one of their launch products if you get a Launchpad with buttons AND a whole groovebox with the Circuit line.? Their fear of cannibalisation is also why the sample playback capabilities of the Tracks are so idiotically limited: they need to set it apart from the Rhythm.

  • @meinemudda3095
    @meinemudda3095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I say one thing about the chord situation
    KNOW YOUR GEAR
    I think you forgot the chord preset style saving sequence
    You can play individual chords with on finger push

  • @samuelmessiha8609
    @samuelmessiha8609 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Taetro rants is cool

  • @drumsallover2876
    @drumsallover2876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi taetro I liked this video it was a different concept of video atleast for me and also you know me for a few live stream I love your video and a VERY BIG FAN SO NO DOUBT I LOVE ALL YOU VIDEOS

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m glad you liked the new format!

    • @drumsallover2876
      @drumsallover2876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There will be no one who will not like your video.....:)))

  • @isTapio
    @isTapio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been trying to work around this myself... I tried mapping the Tracks' play/record buttons to Ableton but it just causes a ton of issues. I think one of the technical issues is that if you press play on Ableton, it basically restarts your "song", while the play button pauses the song on the Tracks, causing a conflict. I would love better integration, but I'm not holding my breath.
    Even just being able to sync tempo from one to the other would be a game changer. Probably possible but I couldn't figure it out. Novation pls halp.

  • @ChrisKaplan
    @ChrisKaplan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Video Thanks.

  • @lacramitus2128
    @lacramitus2128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The circuit is also capable for replacing the Launchpad pro (In my Opinion)

    • @cokecl
      @cokecl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And that is why novation won't do it

    • @synthesauriov3195
      @synthesauriov3195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I literally came to this video because was wondering if I can replace my launchpad mk3 with the circuit. I would love to see more development of the circuit into that territory. would buy it immediately

  • @mikevenus4117
    @mikevenus4117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you midi map it to make it more like a push? Ableton makes it easy to map any midi controller. I like the idea of the Circuit tracks being use as a “push jr”! 🧔🏽‍♂️👍🏽

    • @near5839
      @near5839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you can

  • @paulheartsongs
    @paulheartsongs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agreed!

  • @lanceholland
    @lanceholland 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ended up returning the Circuit Tracks. It just felt too limited in the number of MIDI tracks...too limited in the synths...etc. I agree, it's close. But as is, Tracks ain't there. I ordered a Launchpad Pro instead.

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      as a midi controller, I agree - but it's not a midi controller first.
      As a groovebox, with everything they added it's fantastic.

    • @lanceholland
      @lanceholland 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Taetro Yes..it's very slick. I just wish I had more than 2 MIDI tracks and 2 Synths. And like you pointed out, the note mode could be improved. I'll try the Launchpad Pro and see how that works out

    • @WhiteWhiskerMusica
      @WhiteWhiskerMusica 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lanceholland the 2 devices are apples and oranges though really, tracks is more for people that want out of the box (aka daw-less) tools, and a lot of people who would go for that are already used to integrating multiple bits of hardware into their process. besides that launchpad pro has a sequencer, they are basically different categories of products i think.

  • @GullySyde28
    @GullySyde28 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you add your own kicks n drums to Novation tracks? I remember hearing 90seconds or something

  • @vic4709
    @vic4709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best! 🔥🔥🔥

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      :D

  • @alexandermsanchez
    @alexandermsanchez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question? Circuit track is a midi controller too?? Because I don't find info about this .

  • @lwindowsky
    @lwindowsky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank Boz :)

  • @mitechko
    @mitechko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Novation has a line of launchpad devices that are much closer to push than tracks.

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      leaving a comment without watching a whole video is really obvious just FYI

    • @mitechko
      @mitechko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Taetro sure. You have a video about a mini midi controller and the first thing you talk about is tracks that is not actually a midi controller as its primary function. Yeah, thats where I stopped watching.

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mitechko you missed the point my friend ✌🏻

  • @3dwardcpr-cellphonerecordi537
    @3dwardcpr-cellphonerecordi537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please help! Can circuit tracks delete or undo clips in ableton? Thanks!

  • @toti-pals
    @toti-pals 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Taetro thx for great content. There are all kinfs of custom scripts floating around . I got one not mafe by me but have to check it in 11 shouldd work for tracks I have usef it with any generic controller

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      interesting! my point is more that...this should be a first party thing, it shouldn't be something people on the internet have to do themselves.

    • @toti-pals
      @toti-pals 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree time will tell

  • @williamdelahunty3677
    @williamdelahunty3677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know anything about anything, but Live 11 updated Python, which killed some of my controller scripts

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ahhh that's the worst!

  • @shaktipunj6627
    @shaktipunj6627 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we say that push 2 is a groove box ?! If not what make groove box different from it. Please do reply m little checking on push 2 before buying . And m buying it for live session no recording . Please suggest.

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      push 2 is not a groovebox. groovebox implies standalone, with it's own internal sounds / sequencer.

    • @shaktipunj6627
      @shaktipunj6627 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks ! M a great fan of you the way you explain things . I need your one more suggestions m a beginner and want to play techno live music like " boiler room : David august live performance" but m not able to decide which instrument is perfect for it . M confused between push 2, maschine mk 3 or MCP One or should I get push 2 with gear box like m totally confused . M more thinking of live music not much into recording and stuff. Would you help me know what is better for me and my budget is around 1100 US DOLLAR. would be great if you can suggest.

  • @chrisw1462
    @chrisw1462 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legal... Yeah.. Ableton probably told them it looked too much like the Push, and they'd take action if there was a script.

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i doubt that, pretty much everybody knows each other in this world

  • @VPXM2012
    @VPXM2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, you can have literally multiple reasons, for this type of "rant" lol
    Going straight into it, since you already use it, if it's software related issue, it can be easily resolved with an update on the host.
    On the other hand, hardware is usually built with specific integration in mind, so.... since this is purely a consumer product, wait for the next one to come out.
    These are of course, soft viewpoints... I personally know few guys (including one girl) that are hardcore, and change or rebuild what they have, to better suit their purpose lol

  • @vasiliszaxaropoulos8726
    @vasiliszaxaropoulos8726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Καλησπέρα ωραίο βίντεο δώσει

  • @joshuaconnor9012
    @joshuaconnor9012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🥀

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

  • @SclimBeats
    @SclimBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      :D

  • @ACABSTUDIOS
    @ACABSTUDIOS ปีที่แล้ว

    So it doesn't actually exist,

  • @patrickploenzke489
    @patrickploenzke489 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fixed clip length though?

  • @samuelmessiha8609
    @samuelmessiha8609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you did it man

  • @sirfreak2841
    @sirfreak2841 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Second maybe

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yupppp

  • @LoombeBeats
    @LoombeBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3rd!

    • @Taetro
      @Taetro  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      :)