I can't stop playing this synth! Model 77- a WORTHY CS80?
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Your greatest ending ever. 👍
Not only was this an incredible review but it also serves as a history lesson to one of the most iconic synths ever created. You have done justice to this plugin more than softube themselves. Pat on the back to you sir 🎹.
Thank you for the kind words ❤
Softube is amazing! Their synth emulations are some of the best on the market. Everything from the sound to the user interface is just as one would expect. Sounds and looks good. Great job on the video Dom! And if Softube sees this - great job as well!
yes, but they dont invent new things or upgrade software instruments and i m not speakting of vintage Emulation of old synth but instruments like heatbeat ....why, why, why ....why ? ...why
this is why they are now doing only vintage stuff
@@akigh-fh3hg Nowadays (the digital era of music production) people may not have access to those vintage synths that people loved in the past. Softube is just giving everyone access to those synths & sounds at an affordable price. Also, Softube tends to stick to emulations of analog gear which is why they don't have many new unique synths. However, since these are digital recreations, there's more possibilities for tweaking than one would have in the analog world so that adds a unique touch to these classic synths.
That was "La Petite Fille de la mer" such a lovely song.
Considering he was probably using a Rhodes there
A classic.
100% I love it
Yes, it was this one ! But he played other things also from Vangelis like 1492.
god bless you
To answer everybody's question, it's not a monitor, it's an insert. It covers his gears in a way that it's not ergonomic at all. But it inspires every one to purchase a 42/48 inch TV as a monitor.
Congratulations, this was the best explanation about how to program cs-80. I always struggled to make sound because of the complexity of the beast but you make it so easy. BTW great plugin by softube 🎉
This video was worth it for the excellent explanation of the CS-80's idiosyncratic envelopes alone! I owned a CS-80 from 2001-03, sold it because it was so difficult to tune, let alone maintain. Have not been impressed with any of the modern emulations (including Deckards Dream) until now.
Lucky U! ... should have held on to it = ultimate pension pot! 😂🤑
Me thinks Dom fell in love all over again..Beautiful sounds xx
you definitively should be paid by Softube .
this is the clearer/better video I watched about the Model 77. Thanks a lot for creating it for us
Dom, great job. You showed and explained. And most of us now know why CS80 was so appreciated. Thanks a lot!
My second synth back in 1978 (first was a mini moog) I loved this instrument I had so much fun doing gigs with it I wish they would do a limited hardware run I'd definitely buy one. Cheers!
I wish it got a proper, non-limited run
this thing still has a place today and deserves a full production run
Wow that last part is amazing 🤩🤩🤩
Wait a minute! Dom's monitor isn't that big. Nice overlay. Now I really need this synth....thanks to this great tutorial.
this thing was an instant buy, not regretting it
Great sound! Love the CS-80, and late Vangelis ❤️❤️
A good demo as well, Dom!
I Hear You Now (Jon & Vangelis) is one of my favourite songs - it's just so beautiful. I don't know if Vangelis used a CS-80 or not but the synth sounds are exquisite.
There are CS80 sounds in that song, without a doubt.
@@tonyrapa-tonyrapa Vangelis used a CS-80 on his arguably most famous soundtrack, Bladerunner
@@tonyrapa-tonyrapa People forget he used Roland system 100 a lot with a 9 volt battery on it's filter input to make it go extra bright.
I learned to program a Cs80. Thanks haha
Absolutely love the CS 80 V4 but Sooo hard to get it's handle .. great vid 🤛 got loads of sounds, your instruction won't be aced .. respect Dom !
Hey Dom…just purchased. I have all the Softtube synths…they’re all fantastic. I had the Juno 106 (2 at one point), and their version is as close as it gets.
I love vintage 🎹
Awesome you control...please make a Vangelis Library with Model 77
The final was celestial!!!
Absolutely stunning. Softube's synths are really out of this world. Better than the original hardware if you ask me. The Juno emulation is also unbelievable!
You played ' 1492 Conquest of Paradise ' by Vangelis very nice !
By the way my father learned sound design with Vangelis 60 years ago.
Judging by the sudden surge in reviews, the devs handed out a bunch of free licences
Amazing playing and descriptions as always Dom! Killer work 💥
Thank you Todd ❤❤❤
The most innovative and creative use by far of a CS-80 ever was by Eddie Jobson in the band UK (album title "UK", 1978). Far beyond anything being shown here (no offense, guy). If any CS-80 enthusiasts don't know that music, definitely seek it out.
Way too cool, Thanks, Dom !
Mind blowing! 👏👏👏
That Ring Modulator! Beauborg! LOL Amazing. Damn, I need Model 77 :D
For me this is the best CS 80 Emulation 👌
(17:25) That alone gets a 👍and a comment. 😁
Keep up the great content, Dom! 👍
Awesome vid! Thanks so much for taking the time to make this. I ended up grabbing the model 77 right after. Cheers!
Amazing 🔥
One of your best videos! Awesome sounding synth. I will surely buy this in the coming days.
WONDERFUL VIDEO .
I loved the CS80 I had years ago.. sadly I had to pass it on due to it being to heavy on my system back then.. but MAN oh man did I love it. thanks for the reminder I need this back in my life
You are blessed for owning one- it's the ONE synth I would love to own but maintaining it alone is a task!
@@DomSigalas that was the issue!
I did not have the money to keep it maintained! hence it being to heavy on my system!
this plugin tho... OMG
great demo. Really shows off the emulation.
Great explanation
- Beautiful.
my dad still own his CS80, but havent used in over a decade, he won´t let me use either! i am just waiting for his time to come! this will be the first thing I will start using
Sounds great .. Hydrasynth is the perfect master keyboard for CS 80 emus .. both poly aftertouch and touch strip 🙂
I have a Hydrasynth Deluxe as well as 2 CS80 emus, and I can confirm!
I was thinking the same thing
agree! hydrasynth deluxe user with GS80
If I'm not mistaken, the strip on the hydrasynth cannot be used on external instruments. Only on the Hydrasynth itself.
@@CorryDMGI need to be sure about that... Planning to buy Hydrasynth deluxe. Can some real owner give us some info?
Dom, I always enjoy your demos and commentary. Your comment about the envelope reminded me of my Korg Poly-800 - In my 80s rock band, it was my long-sought upgrade from the Realistic "Elton John" micro-Moog. The envelopes each had 6 stages: Attack, Decay, Break Point, Slope, Sustain & Release. With lots of time and experimentation, I could get a lot of fairly intricate sounds out of that very inexpensive synth.
La petite fille de la mer
I always thought it was a Rhodes but something was not quite right about that
Thank you Dom
The best tutorial EVER
Awesomeee
5:55 yeeehhhhhh lolz smile at 5:58 cracking up
I would buy it if it came with Vangelis patches designed by you. Awesome Video, thank you.
Nice 'god light' effect
As a bassist I used to play an SH101, now and then, also a Juno 6 & DX7.
Vangelis was (and always will be) "The" synth wizard. 🙏
I believe I know very well all of his albums, since I listened to all of them many times, and a few days ago, the "Direct" album was on heavy rotation in my house (this album has no overdubs, and it's very interesting how it was performed).
I don't know if there's any album where Vangelis _didn't_ use the CS-80, even if for brief moments, even in his latest albums.
The CS-80 became part of Vangelis sound signature.
That being said, most TOTL Yamaha synths usually have these iconic sounds, which are not that hard to replicate for quite some time. 😉
Having the ability to have an emulation of the CS-80 to play with is interesting, but in all fairness, I don't know if it is the most rewarding synth experience.
Just like many synths from the past, it was amazing at producing some specific sounds (the most recognizable have an additional external reverb, of course), but not necessarily great at anything else.
That's also part of the beauty of vintage synths (even digital and romplers), because they used to be different due to their technical inability to do "better".
I own the Motif-ES rack and the MODX 8+, and they easily blow any vintage synth (or romoler) out of the water at playing acoustic piano, acoustic guitars and many other real instruments.
But the "acoustic" piano and some organ sounds from the Korg M1/Roland D50 (just to name a few sounds and synths) became iconic instruments by themselves, since those sounds didn't exist before, and they were present in many songs that could easily be recorded on real pianos by those artists...
...but they wouldn't sound remotely similar! 🙂
Coming back from an age where I couldn't afford a (then new) DX-7, and being lucky to own an YS-200 (nothing to write home about) with an RX-7, I can't certainly complaint about all the insanely good sounds that I have at my disposal (and certainly not having Cubase any many vst libraries).
But I often feel a bit paralyzed by the insane amount of great sounds that I have at my disposal, and at the same time, noticing that it becomes harder and harder to be amazed by new sounds.
I wrote several songs that started by playing some notes on a sound that felt really good, often when I wasn't even trying to write anything at all.
Unlike any acoustic instrument, the synthesizer is supposed to create sounds that didn't exist before, and many gurus at the most well known synth brands were amazing at creating incredible and inspiring sounds, even if the user could tweak them.
Coming back to the CS-80 (which comes from an era where the end user would have to create his own sounds), I believe that having these emulations is great, but I guess that most users will end up using some presets, namely those made and used by famous artists, since they also emulate all the sonic limits that were present in the original hardware.
After all these decades and so many insanely good artists/sound designers that made music with the CS-80, I honestly doubt that anyone can accomplish something new and better, but I can be wrong, and I always have my ears open to that. 🙂
Nice sounds and an essential poly synth VSTi. If you are into Softube, it’s a no brainer. Arturia CS 80 V nails the full functionality and is great with our Hydrasynth Deluxe. I imagine this would be similar here. CS envelopes are the bomb.
Excellent review and production.
Very nice! That is a great rendition of that track from Apocalypse des Animaux, however, I believe he was actually using a Rhodes for that high pitched sound. (Wish you would've tried the Guitar 1 and 2 since that was such an iconic sound for ol' Mr. V)
If I didn't have the m8x that would be a no brainer purchase. I still might get it at some point. Great plugin by the looks of it.
Hi Dom, great video, as always…how would you compare this implementation of the CS-80 against the Arturia CS-80? Any thoughts?
Check out how Vangelis manages the envelopes and ring modulation on Pinta, Nina, Santa Maria from around 7m:50s into the song... you can only do this when you have perfect manual control over the knobs. It would be interesting to see how close one can come to this using the Softube plugin.
Anyway, I don't want to sound like Vangelis which is why I prefer to stay away from CS80-emulations. For me it's not a synth, it is Vangelis...
I have the Arturia CS80 Version and never work with it. You're right, it killed me. I hope to have time to deal with it in more detail when I retire from my “real” job in a few months. 🤗
I already have 2 VSTi replicas of the mighty CS80. I guess now I'm going to have another one. 😀 Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
Brah ? It sounds Amazing !??!?! Almost no difference to teh hardware no ? Creepy good the SOFTUBE stuff
I have the arturia and cherry versions and they don’t hold a candle to softubes🔊✨✨✨ great vid
Thank you for your video and time. Very good synth.
That huge screen is a TV or any display from any brand?
響きがとても音楽的に感じられる
Guys you have to check out Chariots Of Fire by Julian Croot. He used the Arturia version of the CS80 and it sounds really close to Vangelis.
Is this Softtube version better than Arturia?
@@oldendays9554 that's what I was asking myself ...
This isn't a CS-80 emulation. It is a dual panel CS-60 and the CS-60 didn't have the Chorus or tremolo that the CS-80 had. Instead they drench the sounds in a great big reverb for the Model 77.
To me this is like a Juno-106 without its fantastic Chorus. Not a Juno 106.
It gets aways with this with its use of spread and the big great sounding reverb...
I would bet that if you put the other emulations (like the Arturia) through a great reverb (not some inbuilt) you would get a better result for some of the sounds.
@@Magnus_Loov Yeah, not really lol....
@@theboofin Yes, REALLY! It is no less than a two layer CS-60 with some extras like the reverb and stereo spread and unison.
It is NOT a CS-80 since it lacks both the chorus and the tremolo.
It may sound very authentic to a CS-80 that has these two things de-activated....(some of the classic sounds do have that).
I was actually hoping this was the next one softube was making, wanted a good emulation since playing around with the arturia version. Hope they make arp 2600 next, softube softsynths are the only ones I'm still buying 👍
I love synthesizers and synthesizer history. The CS-80 is like the Porsche of classic -cars- synths. That being said, I would want a higher end MIDI controller and especially with aftertouch in order to make the experience more immersive in regards to playing the OG instrument instead of merely a marionette in the DAW-box. Out of healthy curiosity -- what MIDI controller would you recommend for the task?
Someone in the comments already suggested the Hydrasynth (not a MIDI controller, but makes sense) -- interesting take!
A similar to what he uses here. Native Instruments Komplete control S61 mark 3. That has polyphonic aftertouch too and loads of great controller options and good integration with NI plus many other VST-i brands...
i used to own a cs50 great video Dom will give this a try I do have the Arturia one so will good to see how they compare
I really love the bit at the end! Also, nice to see a demo from someone who knows how to program it. I have two of the other emulations: Cherry Audio’s GX-80 and Arturia’s CS-80 V, both of which have effects, filters, or other features that extend beyond those of the original gear. Until your video, I wasn’t that impressed with the CS-80 by itself.
sounds great
Great video! And sweet emulation by Softube! BTW do you have UAD plugins? Will be nice to see some reviews from you! Or Softube fxs? I am thinking to buy UAD fxs or Softube. Will be nice to have reply. Thanks 🙏
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing!
It looks like the perfect instrument to complement the new Kontrol S88 Mk3. Btw, how does the key bed action. Of the Mk3 compare to Montage m8x?
It's pretty amazing. The new firmware (for the S88 MK3) allows you to also fine-tune the Polyphonic aftertouch and even add delay so it doesn't kick in straight away. The Montage M8X still has the best keybed for my taste though :)
Thank you very much for the demonstration and the review of the CS80, it was really very interesting, I think that with a keyboard like the Expressive E Osmose it must be really gorgeous in terms of expressiveness.
I'm literally a fan of your preset at 3:11, is it possible to get it somewhere? Thank you in advance.
Cheers from France 🇫🇷
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nice sounds. btw. what video camera are you using for recording videos ?
Awesomeness
Sounds good
I experimented with the demo and it sounds brighter and louder than the Memorymoon ME80, maybe a bit more modern sounding? It's neat, though since I already got an emulation, might wait till the price drops on this one to justify another CS-80 emulation. Sounds good though!
I suppose you know also the arturia v collection. It contains an other vst of the cs80. What do you think to compare them ? Your version seems easier to Programm, but what's about the sound. Which one provide sound most like from the real Yamaha CS80 ?
Good sounding VST! Do you think it sounds different from the Arturia one?
I love Softube’s emulations to pieces! But they really need to stop naming them after the year the original was released. I was alive for the whole history and know what year they were released, owned several of them, and i still find it super annoying any time i have to choose one. It means i have to stop and remember wtf year the 101 was released. Rather than being focused on the sound i have in my head. I don’t want to have to stop thinking about my music… at all.
Also Softube really missed an interface opportunity by not having a little panel you can open with a full copy of the whole synth, that also has a little panel on that you can open, with a full copy of the whole synth on that, which has a little panel on that you can open, with a…
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Vangelis Shmangelis...play Alaska and Presto Vivace
Luv luv luv it, I want one but guess it costs a fortune as al excuisit things do
Lovely
I guess the real test I should do with any software that tackles the CS-80 is try and play Beaubourg =D
nice. but there are other great CS80 emus out there. The ME80 from Memory Moon is equalliy good and the Cherry Audio GX-80 is even better imho. Not to forget the Arturia CS80 emu, but here i think it has to many addon-features making it a different synth.
Wouldn't it make more sense to control to from your Montage M8x with poly aftertouch and pair with the M8x ANX engine including the CS80 patches YOU created?
Is the HP filter controlled by the filter envelope or is it static? How do we control which filter (the HP or the LP) the filter envelope controls? Thanks for this great presentation.
Memory moon ME 80 is another CS 80 style VSTI.
Hello, Dom! What do you think about Arturia's emulation of CS-80? Especially compared to Softube.
BUT isn't this a two layer CS-60? WITHOUT the chorus and tremolo (since the 60 didn't have it)?
Then it is no more a CS-80 than a Juno 106 without the chorus isn't a Juno-106. it is just drenched in a very big (bit great sounding) reverb in the Model 77 (To hide the obvious). You may get the feeling of that big sound with that great reverb at first but something obvious is missing. Yes for sounds that don't rely on the chorus or tremolo it may be great(the fantastic ring modulator and the fact that softube made this) . But so many sounds did!
Still great sounding. With that spread features, but without the Chorus/tremolo, it sounds like a mix of an Oberheim and CS-60 (without chorus/tremolo). If you turn that reverb off!
The LFO is the tremolo if it goes to the VCA. And who hasn't got a chorus?
I've been thinking about getting a CS-80 plugin for a while and heard Arturia's is good. Does anyone know how Softube's compares?
I was really hoping TAL Software would have a crack at emulating the CS-80 but turns out they were working on the Alpha, which is great by the way!
Is there a mute (bell) effect for Iconica Trumpet? Thanks
It is said that Stevie Wonder used it so much that he wore out the ribbon
YOU KNOW WE CANT HEAR WHAT YOUR HEARING AS ITS A TOUTUBE PROCESSED 1080p VIDEO - ALSO THE ARTURIA CS 80 IS OUT SO WHY ON EARTH WOULD WE WANT THIS LESSER VERSION
THERE A WICKED TUTORIAL IN DEPTH CS80 TUTORIAL ON YT TO WITH LOTS OF PARTS MAKING IT EASY AND IT ACTUALLY HAS MORE FEARURES THAN THE ORIGINAL HARDWARE HAD - THE PACKS OF PRESETS ARE SO AWESOME TOO
MAKES THIS CRAP LOOK LIKE HALF A SYNTH LOL
Dammit. I love Softtube and have many of their plug-ins and now they release this. I already have Arturia and Cherry Audio’s versions.
Anyone get this and compare it against the others? I’m talking sound wise, not feature.
Soon arturia will be a distant memory. Not really, but kind of. I always reach for the softube synths before arturia’s.
@@darkmaer softube do sort of timelessly great measurements of each components, even it's artifacts, add it to a system while most others seem to just emulate stuff like black boxes, I think, so it gets dated. Arturias' CS80 is perhaps the strongest reason for Arturia because I really can't understand how people prefer the cherry audio, but prophet and juno of softube is an Arturia killer. Then the new Minimoog came out and it's maybe even better for Arturia. I think the main challange for softube is when components gets very complicated i themselves, like the moog filter and the envelops and the overdrive. It's so alive that it's hard to make maths of. I also think juno6 with Arturias juno6 chorus is the best juno6 sound so yeah, tough to forget them complicately.
But I kid you not; I remember asking myself today, after being on synth reddit talking about cs80 and gx1, "is Softube ever going to do the cs80, and how will it even be possible?" The way they emulate every part of the chain. Got the deal on my mail for like 80euro/usd. Bought both juno and p5 recently so these buggers are really making me spend.
Awesome. will see how my Arturia midi mk 3 handles the whole thing. It has supposedly aftertouch - or maybe I have no talent for aftertouch? We ll see. Awesome ending!
New arturia controllers have only channel aftertouch, not polyphonic aftertouch. To get polyphonic aftertouch you need new controllers from NI or Korg Keystage
thats a big ass screen!
Vangelis - La Petite Fille de la Mer
you have a big monitor - I wish...
I don't know why or how, but I always hear a VST when it's VST, well on the brass sounds mostly, but to me it sounds VST. My best VST analog emulation is the BX Oberhausen. I love it but it still sounds VST: I will prolly get this one, I rly like how it sounds, it is close, and will I never ever get a real CS80,
I know Behringer is working on one but...no
Fun fact the CS80 weight is 82Kg, ouch!!!
I want to hear more singing from you!:)
I want to hear what you can do with your voice and your Master of modern Music Technology
I think you are wrong. Did you try with a "double blind" test? Your brain is influenced by what you see. Some friends lost my trial with a minimoog comparison (hardware against plugin)