This was a simple, straightforward, and easy to follow the review. I have the old faithful version as well but am tackling the PCT this March. So I've been looking at all items to see where I can drop weight and not lose functionality or efficiency. This video answered the questions I had. Great review. Thorough, but concise. Well done. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Very good review. I think a lighter would be an essential piece of equipment on most any UL gear list. I wouldn’t go on a multi day hike without one regardless of whether or not my stove has a pizo ignition.
Yeah, with the built in igniter, you now have a backup. Which is why I was thinking about going with that one. Until I realized, from this video, adding another lighter would still make the BRS a lower weight.
First of all, Nice video. Very good comparison, IMO. I think a lot depends on what type backpacker/camper you are as to what is a good idea to carry. That being said, I do more short hikes from my truck (due to walking limitations) and more fishing/camping than hiking. Most of the time I can use an open fire or a provided fire pit, however a small stove is great for coffee, tea, soup, or boiling a little water. Anyway, I have had several igniters fail. So I never leave home without at least 2 ways to start a fire (key chain ferro rod and a bic) and my SAK. I'm thinking of the BS 3000 for that. Your review was helpful. Thank you.
I bought a version of the orange case stove earlier this year. Tested it a couple times at home and it worked fine, but then got it up in the woods and it wouldn't stay lit. Had to eat a couple cold meals that trip. Nothing visibly wrong with the o-ring, so I dunno. Camp site was 12,000 feet so I thought it was that, but then it wouldn't work consistently at home either. Bought the BRS stove as replacement and it has been great. Also, I would not want to depend on that igniter, I think you'd want to bring a lighter with either stove. BRS is the clear choice for my money.
I have the exact same stove as the AOTU, sold under the Etekcity brand on Amazon. Same orange case, same igniter design, same leg pattern. I am only an occasional user, so over three years of owning it I've probably used it 10-15 times, most of those either car or kayak camping and not at high altitudes. After a couple years with it, I have two pieces of feedback: first, the legs will not completely unfurl anymore. The far leg only rotates out about 75% of the circle that it used to make around the base, so that leads to a few balance issues. I have been planning to put a little WD40 on it, but haven't done it yet so I don't know if it helps. The other issue I've noticed is that the igniter no longer works. I wouldn't ever rely on the self igniter on a longer trip, and I always have a lighter with me anyway, so it's not that big a deal, but maybe not worth the extra weight vs the BRS if you're choosing. Overall it's a great little stove and one of the best $10 I ever spent. Balancing larger diameter pots is difficult, so the taller/skinnier ones are more compatible.
I just got mine. And it was very rough to open the legs all the way up. The smallest little squirt of WD-40 on either side of the rotating disc solved that problem. I would have paid another 5 or $10 for it if they would pay a little more attention to Quality Control details. I.e.. One of these small feet at the top of the legs does not open all the way flush, so whatever I set on the burner has about a 10 degree tilt the opposite direction of that particular leg. Not a super big deal. I have the plastic base for the fuel canister. So I just place one of the three base legs on the opposite side of the defective stove leg, on something that's about 2 mm high relative to the other feet and it makes the correction.
Nice video. I also switched from the same stove to the BRS. Although mine was branded by Reehut and was $6, I'm optimistic it's good for my more limited backpacking use. I hesitated for years going to the BRS since I've been using the original Jetboil for camping and Reehut for backpacking and they both continue to work great. I switched over to go ultralight and so the BRS is a great stove for ounce counters. The weight/space savings come with compromises (higher fuel consumption, pot instability, potential need for o-ring replacement) so if you understand the stove, you'll know what you get and whether you're good with the trade-off.
I may order the larger of the two, the one you've used in the past. I want a cheap emergency backup at home if the power goes out for a day; need my coffee and maybe some soup. :) For walking over 2000 miles, I can see why hikers would go for the tiny one, of course. Thanks for testing.
the video thanks for the video I was wondering if the fuel canister will fit inside the pot as I've seen on the other videos and another person actually put the stove inside a pot I think
Looks good. Can anyone tell me what gas you use in the US? As l would like to see if the stoves are compatible with gas canisters sold here in France. Keep up the good work.
I’ve used the BRS for a couple of years now with no problem, hundreds of meals. I’m not sure you should add the weight of the lighter as you’re carrying a way to make fire anyway, right? Good video!
@@yoramkohanzadeh398 I prefer not to use propane with stoves that don't have a micro regulator as propane has a higher pressure than regular canister and it's kind of dangerous.
Honestly I hate how the fireplate is on the BRS. It blows the flame out and up the sides of the cup and heats the handle of the cup even on my toaks750 I prefer a more concentrated flame.
Newbie here (with some decades behind me not new to life but new to this stuff) with a Q for anyone who knows: So I just ordered the AOTU stove and the Toaks 750 ml cup which all arrived yesterday. To get familiar with everything before actually using it I tested it by doing a boil test with a standard Primus 8 oz canister. I'm in Orange County, California so everything is pretty much under 200 feet above sea level. I filled the cup to about an inch from the top. First thing I noticed was I could not make the 3 minute boil time, as outlined in many TH-cam videos, unless I really cranked the stove up. But what I found when I did that was that a bright red spot, nearly the size of a quarter, formed in the bottom of a cup. It was like the stove was going to burn through the bottom of the cup, I seen several of the boil test videos and in the ones where the individual pointed the camera into the cup to show the water is boiling I've never seen that red spot. So is that normal or do I have it too high and shouldn't really worried about that 3 minute boil time? Does the stove sound effective and I should send it back? Have I killed or was I killing my $35 titanium cup? Appreciate any insight from individuals with experience in this. Thanks
Isn't the 3 minute boil time for 2 cups not closer to the 3 cups that you tried? Use a lid, wind screen and base reflector (radiant reflector under the stove/fuel canister) to speed up boil times and reduce fuel consumption. Aluminum foil works great for the base reflector, but titanium foil is what I prefer for a wind screen although I am sure the Al foil would be fine for several uses and is basically free. Red hot titanium is no big deal, take a look at the cup supports on the stove and you will likely see them red hot also. Ti melting point is around 3000°f and the fuel mix in the Primus canister burns around 1400°f, so basically you couldn't melt or damage the Toaks at that temp even if you wanted to. Material properties vary based on the alloyed content, but not worth getting into here.
This was a simple, straightforward, and easy to follow the review. I have the old faithful version as well but am tackling the PCT this March. So I've been looking at all items to see where I can drop weight and not lose functionality or efficiency. This video answered the questions I had. Great review. Thorough, but concise. Well done. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Very good review. I think a lighter would be an essential piece of equipment on most any UL gear list. I wouldn’t go on a multi day hike without one regardless of whether or not my stove has a pizo ignition.
Yeah, with the built in igniter, you now have a backup. Which is why I was thinking about going with that one. Until I realized, from this video, adding another lighter would still make the BRS a lower weight.
First of all, Nice video. Very good comparison, IMO. I think a lot depends on what type backpacker/camper you are as to what is a good idea to carry. That being said, I do more short hikes from my truck (due to walking limitations) and more fishing/camping than hiking. Most of the time I can use an open fire or a provided fire pit, however a small stove is great for coffee, tea, soup, or boiling a little water. Anyway, I have had several igniters fail. So I never leave home without at least 2 ways to start a fire (key chain ferro rod and a bic) and my SAK. I'm thinking of the BS 3000 for that. Your review was helpful. Thank you.
I bought a version of the orange case stove earlier this year. Tested it a couple times at home and it worked fine, but then got it up in the woods and it wouldn't stay lit. Had to eat a couple cold meals that trip. Nothing visibly wrong with the o-ring, so I dunno. Camp site was 12,000 feet so I thought it was that, but then it wouldn't work consistently at home either. Bought the BRS stove as replacement and it has been great. Also, I would not want to depend on that igniter, I think you'd want to bring a lighter with either stove. BRS is the clear choice for my money.
I have the exact same stove as the AOTU, sold under the Etekcity brand on Amazon. Same orange case, same igniter design, same leg pattern. I am only an occasional user, so over three years of owning it I've probably used it 10-15 times, most of those either car or kayak camping and not at high altitudes. After a couple years with it, I have two pieces of feedback: first, the legs will not completely unfurl anymore. The far leg only rotates out about 75% of the circle that it used to make around the base, so that leads to a few balance issues. I have been planning to put a little WD40 on it, but haven't done it yet so I don't know if it helps. The other issue I've noticed is that the igniter no longer works. I wouldn't ever rely on the self igniter on a longer trip, and I always have a lighter with me anyway, so it's not that big a deal, but maybe not worth the extra weight vs the BRS if you're choosing. Overall it's a great little stove and one of the best $10 I ever spent. Balancing larger diameter pots is difficult, so the taller/skinnier ones are more compatible.
I just got mine. And it was very rough to open the legs all the way up. The smallest little squirt of WD-40 on either side of the rotating disc solved that problem.
I would have paid another 5 or $10 for it if they would pay a little more attention to Quality Control details.
I.e.. One of these small feet at the top of the legs does not open all the way flush, so whatever I set on the burner has about a 10 degree tilt the opposite direction of that particular leg. Not a super big deal. I have the plastic base for the fuel canister. So I just place one of the three base legs on the opposite side of the defective stove leg, on something that's about 2 mm high relative to the other feet and it makes the correction.
For the BSR you can use a mini Bic lighter and save some weight.
Nice video. I also switched from the same stove to the BRS. Although mine was branded by Reehut and was $6, I'm optimistic it's good for my more limited backpacking use. I hesitated for years going to the BRS since I've been using the original Jetboil for camping and Reehut for backpacking and they both continue to work great. I switched over to go ultralight and so the BRS is a great stove for ounce counters. The weight/space savings come with compromises (higher fuel consumption, pot instability, potential need for o-ring replacement) so if you understand the stove, you'll know what you get and whether you're good with the trade-off.
The " old faithful stove " is great ! I got the 2 pack on Amazon for $17
Thank you, this video is *exactly* what I was looking for.
I may order the larger of the two, the one you've used in the past. I want a cheap emergency backup at home if the power goes out for a day; need my coffee and maybe some soup. :)
For walking over 2000 miles, I can see why hikers would go for the tiny one, of course.
Thanks for testing.
recommend Fire-Maple 116T. Like from China😀
Thanks for testing all this stuff!
the video thanks for the video I was wondering if the fuel canister will fit inside the pot as I've seen on the other videos and another person actually put the stove inside a pot I think
Great review think I'll stick with old faithful four legs of got to be better than three
Looks good. Can anyone tell me what gas you use in the US? As l would like to see if the stoves are compatible with gas canisters sold here in France.
Keep up the good work.
I’ve used the BRS for a couple of years now with no problem, hundreds of meals. I’m not sure you should add the weight of the lighter as you’re carrying a way to make fire anyway, right? Good video!
I have the same Digi Biotherm.
If you buy an attachment you can convert it to a 1 lb green canister = more cooking
I typically stick with the light weight canisters for backpacking, but I'll have to look into that the next time I car camp.
@@GearTestTV I thought so, but thought I'd mention it for longer treks. Also Green Cans aren't great for super high altitude.
@@yoramkohanzadeh398 I prefer not to use propane with stoves that don't have a micro regulator as propane has a higher pressure than regular canister and it's kind of dangerous.
great info video sir ,
Honestly I hate how the fireplate is on the BRS. It blows the flame out and up the sides of the cup and heats the handle of the cup even on my toaks750 I prefer a more concentrated flame.
Something's not right. I saw your video and I thought the leg span is the same. Now that I have them both the brs is much smaller.
Can these stoves harmonize with canisters in Europe?
Newbie here (with some decades behind me not new to life but new to this stuff) with a Q for anyone who knows:
So I just ordered the AOTU stove and the Toaks 750 ml cup which all arrived yesterday. To get familiar with everything before actually using it I tested it by doing a boil test with a standard Primus 8 oz canister. I'm in Orange County, California so everything is pretty much under 200 feet above sea level.
I filled the cup to about an inch from the top. First thing I noticed was I could not make the 3 minute boil time, as outlined in many TH-cam videos, unless I really cranked the stove up.
But what I found when I did that was that a bright red spot, nearly the size of a quarter, formed in the bottom of a cup. It was like the stove was going to burn through the bottom of the cup,
I seen several of the boil test videos and in the ones where the individual pointed the camera into the cup to show the water is boiling I've never seen that red spot.
So is that normal or do I have it too high and shouldn't really worried about that 3 minute boil time?
Does the stove sound effective and I should send it back?
Have I killed or was I killing my $35 titanium cup?
Appreciate any insight from individuals with experience in this.
Thanks
Isn't the 3 minute boil time for 2 cups not closer to the 3 cups that you tried? Use a lid, wind screen and base reflector (radiant reflector under the stove/fuel canister) to speed up boil times and reduce fuel consumption. Aluminum foil works great for the base reflector, but titanium foil is what I prefer for a wind screen although I am sure the Al foil would be fine for several uses and is basically free. Red hot titanium is no big deal, take a look at the cup supports on the stove and you will likely see them red hot also. Ti melting point is around 3000°f and the fuel mix in the Primus canister burns around 1400°f, so basically you couldn't melt or damage the Toaks at that temp even if you wanted to. Material properties vary based on the alloyed content, but not worth getting into here.
Do you think the AOTU Stove will last the whole Appalachian trail or is the BRS 3000t a better option?
I would go with the BRS stove. The AOTU would probably work, but I think the build quality of the BRS would be more suited for a thru hike.
@@GearTestTV Thank you and I am also looking at the Etekcity Ultralight stove. Is it possible that this one is better as the BRS Stove?
Poor old faithful!