When doing room volume calculations, you use an average volume number for the ceiling height variable. You take the sidewall height, add that number to the peak height and then divide by 2. This will give you a workable starting number.
Good stuff, Dennis, as always. A few years ago I was in a nice restaurant somewhere near the Pacific Ocean in Orange County. Not a fancy place, just a nice comfortable room, except for the acoustics. The main room had a vaulted ceiling about 20(?) feet high in the middle. The boundaries were all hard surfaces. The reflections seemed to go on forever and kept adding and regenerating all kinds audio irritation. To me, the acoustics ruined the room and it was very "irritating". The only thing that kept the meal from being a bad memory was some good company and the best veggie burger I have ever eaten. So, when I got home, I sent an email to the restaurant regarding the meal and the acoustics. With a relatively small amount of acoustic treatment, and a little bit of electronic correction, I have become a recluse. I'm very irritated by bad-sounding rooms. This worked out great during the pandemic because I had everything delivered and I could enjoy good audio from any source, all day long. I need to get more sun......
HI Dennis. This is great. My ceiling in the family room has a peak at 30'. Acoustics are awful. Do you do any onsite testing/consulting by chance? Thank you.
@@AcousticFieldsPlease explain these benefits..? And however, in my case, because of my vaulted ceiling and attic, I opted to install my 4 Atmos speakers as on the front and rear walls, does this do the same for the mentioned benefits ?
@@perrysmiles60 More channels will produce more sound which can act as a fill in places your room requires and is not covered by existing channel arrays. A balanced multiple channel system, say 5.1 / 7.2 can produce the overhead effect if your reverberation times are balanced throughout the room.
Dennis, do you know why is there a "drum" effect with certain windows? I mean the sounds from outside hitting the glass has this drum like deep sound. I thought my new window would have solved my problem but it didn't. And it's 5mm thickness double paned. 😖
When low frequency pressure waves strike the glass window, the window goes diaphragmtic which means it moves just like the skin on a kick drum. Movement produces vibration which produces noise.
Do you do any onsite consulting by chance. The ceilings in my family room peak at 30'. Acoustics are terrible. Really want to get it fixed, but would like to do it right, once. Thank you. @@AcousticFields
A little transistor radio vs full range speaker acting the same? Not even close. The biggest challenge in any room is low frequency and modes, a little transistor radio will have no bass meaning you won't see the modes. Shutting off video, enough said.
You missed the point. The room only sees energy. It will produce modes based on the energy placed within it. Whether the spource is a transistor radio or a full range source, the room will react a predicatble and consistent way to that specific energy.
I have a vaulted ceiling with the exact dimensions you modeled. You answered my questions about how it figures in the scheme of things. Thanks !
When doing room volume calculations, you use an average volume number for the ceiling height variable. You take the sidewall height, add that number to the peak height and then divide by 2. This will give you a workable starting number.
@@AcousticFields thanks again!!
Likewise! I have similar dimensions as well...12ft down to 8ft....
Good stuff, Dennis, as always.
A few years ago I was in a nice restaurant somewhere near the Pacific Ocean in Orange County. Not a fancy place, just a nice comfortable room, except for the acoustics.
The main room had a vaulted ceiling about 20(?) feet high in the middle. The boundaries were all hard surfaces. The reflections seemed to go on forever and kept adding and regenerating all kinds audio irritation.
To me, the acoustics ruined the room and it was very "irritating". The only thing that kept the meal from being a bad memory was some good company and the best veggie burger I have ever eaten.
So, when I got home, I sent an email to the restaurant regarding the meal and the acoustics. With a relatively small amount of acoustic treatment, and a little bit of electronic correction, I have become a recluse. I'm very irritated by bad-sounding rooms. This worked out great during the pandemic because I had everything delivered and I could enjoy good audio from any source, all day long.
I need to get more sun......
The best room is no room at all. By all means, go outside.
@@AcousticFields - Yes. Today, I'm going for a walk to put my recyclables in the bin behind my building.
If side wall height is fixed, is it preferable to vault the center? The additional volume and average ceiling height will help, correct?
Yes and no. It will depend on the usage.
“The room only sees energy…” ❤
Its sees energy through its dimensional glasses.
HI Dennis. This is great. My ceiling in the family room has a peak at 30'. Acoustics are awful. Do you do any onsite testing/consulting by chance? Thank you.
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I use my vaulted ceiling as a substitute for ATMOS speakers
Distance and angle of attack can be a benefit for ATMOS
@@AcousticFieldsPlease explain these benefits..?
And however, in my case, because of my vaulted ceiling and attic, I opted to install my 4 Atmos speakers as on the front and rear walls, does this do the same for the mentioned benefits ?
@@perrysmiles60 More channels will produce more sound which can act as a fill in places your room requires and is not covered by existing channel arrays. A balanced multiple channel system, say 5.1 / 7.2 can produce the overhead effect if your reverberation times are balanced throughout the room.
@@AcousticFieldsThank you Dennis, much appreciated!
@@perrysmiles60 You are welcome.
Dennis, do you know why is there a "drum" effect with certain windows? I mean the sounds from outside hitting the glass has this drum like deep sound. I thought my new window would have solved my problem but it didn't. And it's 5mm thickness double paned. 😖
When low frequency pressure waves strike the glass window, the window goes diaphragmtic which means it moves just like the skin on a kick drum. Movement produces vibration which produces noise.
Do you do any onsite consulting by chance. The ceilings in my family room peak at 30'. Acoustics are terrible. Really want to get it fixed, but would like to do it right, once. Thank you. @@AcousticFields
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A little transistor radio vs full range speaker acting the same? Not even close. The biggest challenge in any room is low frequency and modes, a little transistor radio will have no bass meaning you won't see the modes. Shutting off video, enough said.
You missed the point. The room only sees energy. It will produce modes based on the energy placed within it. Whether the spource is a transistor radio or a full range source, the room will react a predicatble and consistent way to that specific energy.
@@AcousticFields Your point is misleading, that's my point. Make sense?
@@sbonamo You are the only one it does not make sense to.
@@AcousticFields You got me, master of analogies. A word to the wise - be careful, or those you cheated may come forth on this forum.