This is why people hate Leafs fans
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- We're going to recap game 5 of the Toronto Maple Leafs and Florida Panthers series, which saw the Leafs lose in Overtime. We'll cover all that and more in today's NHL hockey video!
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I was on the r/NHL and there was a picture of Gudas celebrating and literally every single comment is ridiculous. People saying it's classless and bad sportsmanship and even some fans of other teams saying that while they were supporting Florida prior to this, they will now be supporting the Canes. Like, are you not allowed to have passion? Some even bring up Woll is a rookie. Like do they think Gudas even caresif it was a rookie or veteran? I just found it so pathetic that Gudas was being scrutinized for celebrating a series win by other fanbases. Like are you gonna cry if a team walks you off in baseball when showboating a home run?
It’s a dick thing to do regardless of how you look at it.
It would be COMPLETELY different if Gudas wasn't a goon that made a "play" strewn with penalties leading up to it.
Gudas did nothing wrong. As Shoresy would say to all those people complaining, “give your balls a tug”
@@brooksybaby03 this comment. The act itself is one thing, but it’s the fact that it’s Gudas who does fuck all for his team aside from fill a roster spot.
celebrating a series winning goal: it’s good
celebrating a series winning goal in the face of your opponent: classless
That’s the difference
It doesn't take a conspiracy to knock a team out of the playoffs when their best players produce like fourth-liners. It will be interesting to see how this off-season plays out in Toronto.
Core four not performing in the postseason has been a reoccurring topic now for the last few off-seasons in Toronto 😂 I'm hoping if anything, Dubas is shown the fucking door.
Unless their best players are in on it.
I mean when the refs are clear as day on the Panthers side.....the fucks the point in trying......?
I’m not a leaf’s fan. But let’s be honest. no one but panther fans . Are ok with the refs. In that series.
@@Shifty51991 if even the 2021 habs can win against the vegas golden refs then the leafs certainly could have won against the 2023 panthers lmao
“We want Florida!”
In Morgan Freeman’s voice: “They did in fact, get Florida”
we did still in fact want them over boston even after the loss 🤣 i dont myself or any other die hard leafs fan could take another boston slapping xD
@@peterlawrence7427 I did in fact want Boston as a chance to exorcise the other ghost would have been huge. As an ex fan however perhaps it was for the best.
@@ShadowBaofu well yeah it would’ve been nice but we all know that Boston team has the leafs number.
This is the best comment here😂 I read it in his voice
why is everyone so bent out of shape over this chant and keeps quoting it? you yell "we want x" to come after the best team. in college football after a bad team has had a winning streak the "we want bama" chants would start echoing. because they were THE team to beat. why does everyone think its a form of disrespect towards florida? its the exact opposite.
As a leafs fan im actually really intrigured with the Florida , Carolina series. Florida is on an absolute roll lately and Carolina is one of the funnest teams in the league to watch. Congrats to both!
P.s. sorry about some fellow leafs fans lol were not all so bad.
Canes isles series was a snooze.
Expected goals don't win games, actual goals do. I think Toronto got goalied a little bit in this series. You have to be able to adapt though. Playoffs are largely taking two pretty evenly matched teams and seeing which one can adapt and adjust. Generally, the longer the series go the more each learns about the other and the more each has to change things up to find an edge. Sheldon Keefe needs to go. It is absolutely stupid that he couldn't find favorable matchups at home in both playoff series.
As a Carolina fan I’m glad we don’t have to hear another series where all the media talks about is the the other team.
Are you sure? Everyone’s gonna talk about Florida
Keep dreaming bro
Stop the cap
Yeah that’ll always be a thing for us sadly
I'm sure they don't talk much about the Leafs in the US. The insufferablity of that franchise is a Canada issue.
Leafs in 8 😼
😅
We want Florida! 🤡
Leafs in 67!
Bwahahaha
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I’m not a leafs fan. I am (unfortunately) a Canucks fan, have been my whole life, and for me I always feel bad for Toronto fans until they start talking. Like they seem to have this superiority complex about their team being the best of all time every year and then when they lose from simply just by not playing well enough they blame everyone and everything for it instead of looking at the team. I am very used to watching bad teams because of who I support and there were moments that the Maple Leafs looked as bad or worse than we do. You will never win a series playing like that. Toronto should just offer AM a 7M contract to be generous. He helps get to the playoffs but if you’re going to be paying a guy like 11M dollars he should be expected to preform in the playoffs.
fans of oilers canucks jets habs leafs sens and flames tend to overhype them
To this day there are Hawks fans still sore that Toews and Kane had 10 million dollar contracts and they brought 3 Stanley Cups. Mathews wants how much for what????
@@beloskhanania5645 Mathews is a great player. So he should get paid high. Connor Mcdavid might not win the Cup either but he is the best by far. Hockey isn't like it used to be. It's going to be defensive teams that'll win you cups. So whatever team does that the best wins a cup.
FWIW, it’s best not to paint all Leaf fans with the same brush. Even Leaf fans get frustrated with other Leaf fans.
a majority of people do focus on the players and team yall are just picking and choosing the extra delusional takes, like are you surprised the largest fanbase team would have the most delusional fans, hmm maybe its because we just have the most fans and some are bound to be crazy especially considering the history
I said it years ago and will say it again, Nylander is the one who shows up. When the other 3 don’t, he does.
Coming from a Bruins fan
Nylander ghosted round 1 after game 2. He was great in round 2 but don’t act like he was carrying the team throughout the playoffs lmao.
I’ve always said he’s the most consistent and least selfish of their “star” players. It’s hilarious that he’s the player that seems to get criticized the most.
@@ajiboy1919 to be fair, there was not much of a team to carry…. If you watch the games, he shows up on the other 3 do not. People always forget he is not a shoot first player. And on a team like the Maple leafs, being great, in round two is a standing ovation😂
@@impulse_xs even when he signed his monster contract, it was funny seeing people overreact because he very much fits the price tag. Yes, he has his tendencies to be lazy every now and then, but he shows up when the others don’t. He played a game on both the 2nd and 4th lines, because he was the only one of the four that was actually playing good enough to get more ice time.
@@jaikohaal He’s also the only one of their “stars”who truly lived up to his contract(but that’s due to poor timing and overspending more than players not performing) and had the stones to know his worth. Hes Also the only young guy that didn’t let Babcock bully him to tears lmao. I think his “laziness” is due to the fact that he sat out because he actually knew what he was worth… plus he almost never throws hits so that upsets people who don’t realize using your stick is part of defense too. Wether he plays well or not he always competes and he’s ALWAYS looking for any way to contribute or make a play. It’s very rare that he plays a game where he doesn’t register SOMETHING on the stat sheet. Even if he has zero points and a negative +\- he’ll at least have some blocked shots, takeaways, face off wins, ect. While Matthews and Marner aren’t as selfish and soft as they used to be, Nylander is still the most versatile player of the three. He could play on team on any line and would hold his own at least. I lol’d so hard when Leafs fans were enraged about having to pay him right after giving Tavares, Matthews, and Marner literal boat loads of money and making some questionable signings.
the dumbest fans are always the loudest. also, there are a lot of people who enjoy hating on the leafs and leaf fans more than watching their own teams.
Nothing pleases me more than to see the Leafs fail yet again in the playoffs.
Matthews is such a talent but he has zero grit in him. Kinda embarrassing to see a big man just roll over without a fight.
@@Funkcoma Ya that's happens when you lead such a sad life that the Leafs losing is the highlight of you're day.
@@pitbull7676 😂😂be more sad if you were a fan of those losers
@@pitbull7676 NA leafs deserve what they get and it’s icing on the cake of a great day 😊
As a lifelong Leafs fan I agree with you and it's SO frustrating to me. The ridiculous fan comments about how the NHL doesn't want Toronto to win is ridiculous. If the Leafs made it to the final it would be a huge win for the NHL with TV viewership numbers that they could then parlay forward in future TV contracts, showing how high the numbers are. I'm not saying that as a brag, it's just a fact that Toronto has such a huge fanbase. This series was not "rigged." Toronto played well but they just couldn't finish. This is the hardest trophy in any sport to win. Kudos to Florida for being able to take out both Boston and Toronto, and I wish them well.
Maybe not the Leafs in particular but there is a clear bias toward American teams in the NHL like abundantly clear. Bettman has shown he is more in favor of American teams than Canadian. It's really not rocket science to figure that out. I don't think the series was rigged either Leafs just played bad but overall when you look at officiating and marketing and other bs choices the league has made you can see the favor tilt the other direction every time. I mean for example putting Chris Lee as the ref for the Habs Knights series in 21. Chris Lee had made the most calls against the Habs out of any team and they put him to officiate that series knowing that ahead of time. They then took him out and replaced him once people caught on. It's ridiculous sometimes. I use that example because it affected the team I cheer for and I don't want to speak for other teams fans but I could name more.
@@sevtas8422 true
While I fully 100% agree that it's not "rigged" against Toronto I strongly disagree on the other parts, the NHL has no interest in seeing a team like Toronto win since Toronto will always have fans and always make money even if they suck. What Bettman wants is "growth", which in his mind equals American teams winning while creating new fans and investors in the process.
Pffft. The league won't let Toronto win a cup because they already make enough money with them losing. Every Canadian kid goes to school with Toronto Maple Leafs lunchboxes. Hats. Shirts. Apparel. Etc.
The Leafs have more support than ANY team in the league. And that's why they'll never be allowed to win.
Don't be stupid
@@powwowken2760 it is rigged but alright clown go watch cartoons
Being 60 years old and a leaf fan this loss did not surprise me. I heard Ken Hitchcock say when you watch a playoff game are your stars looking for space or fighting for space. Matthews Marner Nylander all look for it. Doug Gilmour was tougher and more determined than those three combined. They love playing in Toronto because they are coddled by management, they are adored by fans and not held accountable by team or fans or media. They are SOFT! if Matthews would have had to play against Messier when the latter was in his prime Matthews would be curled up in fetal position at the end of bench wanting nothing to do with Messier at all. Nothing will change for them when all are brought back , and oh yeah Matthews wants to be highest paid player in NHL. Good luck finding pieces to put around him to win. Their 3rd and 4th lines are crap. Look at Seattle, Vegas Carolina. All 4 lines deep. Their ineptitude will continue
Fun fact: Woll and Matthews scored the same number of goals this series.
Lol 😂
I don't think leafs ever scored more than 2 goals a game
Not in this series, they scored 2 goals in each game.
Thanks for the video, I am a bolt fan and seeing leaf fans in round 1 celebrate or downplay what happened to cernak and then call some of the hits in round 2 manslaughter was laughable at best. Ive watched Cernak a lot, way he plays him getting rocked is nothing new, him not coming back in the game or the next night means he was really hurt and a decent chunk of leaf fans thought it was a clean hit.
Leafs fans also disrespect the USA anthem alot, yelling and booing. I see it with Toronto more than any other team's fans.
i went to a lightning game when i was in the area and heard some dude behind us say the league hates the bolts. like you just won back to back cups and have made the league millions on merchandise and whatnot. i feel like the same thing happens with the leafs but they try to justify it by being a terrible team
Every team thinks the League is out to get them. I'm a Flyers fan and have heard it many times. I think they're all idiots, the League doesn't hate the Flyers, God does.
@@tglake2894 Nahhh, he just hates Philly lol
Matthews cares more about spitting on the ice than playing hockey
I noticed he does spit a lot haha
I think he cares more about hanging out with celebs instead of actually being a professional hockeyplayer, he seems fed up with hockey already and he should have 10-12 seasons more to go.
He’s a big man with a small heart. Really disappointing to watch a man who refuses to get down and dirty when it’s crunch time.
Really shows when he is unable to play his game, Nylander is the only player on the Leafs offense beside the 4th line who can play his game. Reilly and Nylander is it, Everyone else in that core is too soft. They looked good with Knies because he was flying and doing A LOT of that work where he was playing in the top 6.
@@fellspoint9364 you have got to stop expecting millionaires to put their bodies and health on the line for so fans can be happy. Sure some players do that but it's their choice, it's nowhere in the contract that getting concussed, losing teeth, breaking bones and getting just generally getting injured is part of the expectations. Matthews is concerned about making bank and getting out as unscathed as possible by the time he hangs 'em up. And I don't blame him, why should he sacrifice his long term health just because some sad Leafs fans demand it?
The problem is this is a violent league that, quite frankly, scares away skilled players. They take to other sports like football (real football, not eggball), baseball and basketball. Hockey is expensive and violent. People in hockey (and eggball) can get severe long-term injuries, some of which lead to suicide / depression.
If a skill player is unable to perform or apply his craft that's not his fault, that's the fault of the league.
The one thing I’d be upset with if I was a leafs fan is the stick hold by Gudas leading to the game winner. I agree, that’s a missed call.
they deserved to lose that series it doesn’t even matter i hope they’re all crying
@Mitchell Kramer your team deserves literally nothing.
@@mitchellkramer229 lol Chicago fan. Shocker.
So blatant, leafs played like garbage but any team going out on that kind of goal would be upset
@@steveb9713 That's the thing. If the 40 million played like they deserved 40 million they would have won. But the Panthers are pure goon squad, Bennett is a gigantic pile of shit who purposely gave a rookie a concussion just cause they were the only player to actually fucking show up. You can be upset by that but also realize your top players just disappear in the playoffs and the team needs a retool.
This is just fans getting heartbroken, happens with every fanbase, it’s just that the leafs have so many, therefore, more extreme fans who say that kinda stuff.
Completely agree
lol fax, Idk how people dont see this, its just simple numbers, and when you compound it with the fantasy like failure of a history this team has had it makes a whole lot of sense
The only reason the Leafs have more fans, is because Ontario is the most populace province. The only people in other provinces who cheer for the Leafs, are ex-Ontarians. If you have a problem with people calling out Leafs fans, you should call them out too, when they are acting like a-holes. If you let it slide, you all get painted with the same brush.
and yet you dont see NYR fans being this cancerous year after year after year after year.
@@carletonrutherford1799 IM NOT FLEXING HAVING A BIGGER FANBASE, im just pointing out the facts all fanbases have assholes but guess what if you have more people in general there are going to be more assholes, idk what team you cheer for but if they had a similar sized fan base it would be the exact same, but you act like it wouldnt
I'm definitely a bit scared going into the conference finals against Florida. But we do have a unique ability to score team goals and circumvent godlike goaltending, so it's really the offensive side of the Panthers' game that worries me. This series is gonna be stressful but I think we get it done in 6. Come back to this comment and dunk on me if the Canes get handled in this series!
As a Panther fan, it really seems like you guys are just a better version of us. Do the same things we do, just a little bit better. Tkachuk may be the best player on the ice (although Aho is a fantasy stud for me) but I think y’all are a little deeper top to bottom. Hope I’m wrong, good luck!
Coming from Florida this series has me more worried than the other 2, but it’ll be cats in 6 ;)
I will
I don't dunk on fans confident in their team. That's what fans are SUPPOSED to do lol.
As a Cats fan I also think the series is going to be stressful because it seems like both teams play a similar style and it maybe a goal trading kind of series and each game may be decided on who scored last like it was when we played Boston. Of course I'm going to pick my Cats to win and even though I hope not I have a feeling this will go 7.
I have said this as a Leafs fan for the longest time ever. The Leafs have always had terrible defense, and yet they insist on spending most of their salary on a few offensive players that fall short when playoff time hits. They deserve the loss.
Leafs had the 7th best ga/gp in the regular season and gave up just over 3 goals/gp in the playoffs. They don’t have a terrible defence. The reason they lost is the stars couldn’t score.
@@PP-rr1gz Regular season doesn't matter. In the playoffs, the defense fucks up when it matters the most.
Actually it was Florida that gave up 50 shots and had to rely on their goalie to win the game for them not the other way around
@@PP-rr1gz stop bringing up reg season when talking about playoffs.
@@rebeltvr6046 Oh you want to know what happened in the playoffs? They improved their ga/gp to 2.5 in the Florida series. That’s very good. Their defence isn’t terrible. Their core four scored 3 goals in 5 games. That’s terrible.
Hearing a Rangers fan like Eck call out the Leafs for attacking a fanbase’s attendance is both confusing and slightly refreshing consider that, as a longtime Devils fan, every hockey-related argument I’ve had with Rangers fans will 9-times-out-of-10 devolve into the Rangers fan bringing up attendance as if it’s somehow a team accomplishment.
I am a Caps fan but I wish Panthers to win the Stanley cup this year. Work hard!! Love the way they play.
Preach they also deserve it because of their great uniforms like it just looks stunning compared to whatever the fuck the canes own are.
@@shawklan27 man the Panthers really nailed their rebranding. Beautiful jerseys
forecheck game is the Metaverse of forechecks right now for the Panthers
@@AAMD11 Horrible ones. I dig their old jerseys when John Vanbiesbrouck wore that one
I'm a leafs fan, and i agree with you 100%. There are a lot of toxic fans out there, especially this fanbase. Just glad I don't live in Toronto. Go Leafs
Honestly its coming to the point where these fans don't make me want to cheer for this team anymore.
Typical
CRI MOAR LAFFS FANS DIS IZ WAT WE DID TO U HAHA en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Toronto_van_attack
this is the first time i liked a comment which said , 'go leafs go'.
They’re the Dallas Cowboys of hockey. Of course there’s good fans of both franchises, but the perception is pretty toxic like you said. And it’s earned.
Cherry picking comments from reddit = the opinions of the entire fan base. Good one.
Thanks for calling this guy out
That little moment with Gudas can just be something that fuels Woll to become an even greater goaltender. Kid is a stud!
He’s literally the only bright spot on this team along with Knies. Aside from that, the future is bleaker than it ever has been.
@@mgraysonhay I mean they say that every year and then the core 4 comes back with some new bottom pair guys and some new face on one of the top lines, I honestly think it’ll be somewhat the same team next year just with Knies and Woll on the team. But don’t forget they also got Nick Robertson with the 3, plus i’m pretty sure there are some kids in the AHL they have still developing so it’s not like the Leafs are completely screwed as of right now.
Outside of game 1, It wasn't that bad for the leafs, these teams were pretty evenly matched except goaltending won it for florida in the end (2 goals in over 50 shots should tell you that). The general goonery really didn't have that much an effect as the hits were not that uneven either. Also remember two of those games were lost in OT, where a lucky bounce this way or that changes everything, which is exactly how the leafs beat tampa, 3 or 4 wins were in overtime..
I’m a Leafs fan, and I’ve said it for years.
There is no bias among the NHL, only incompetence.
That’s right, the Leafs lost because the refs don’t know how to call a game We’re all tired of your whining. Bye bye!!!
@@petsur at no point did I ever say that... Enjoy being triggered by nothing I guess 🤷♂️
I mean, Habs were the last canadian team to win a cup in 1993, I know we suck but Betman became commisioner in 1993 its honestly kinda crazy that once he gets in that its been 30 years since a canadian team won a cup
Let him suck on the worst cup finals ratings ever if Edmonton loses the next game!!
There are some sketchy things with Canadian teams in the NHL whether Eck wants to admit it or not.
@@fr0styy156 Such as? List even one solid reason. You can't.
Another “correlation equals causation” genius. 😂😂😂
@@nunyabiznazz2883 🤡😂
I’m a dieheart leafs fan and I just wanna step up to a podium in front of all the leaf fans and tell them to suck it up because it’s in the past. Complaining will do nothing to change that we lost in the 2nd round. We need to move forward and think about next year
Know what you need to do is stop filling the arena night after night supporting this garbage
we've been thinking about next year for 54 years. And we've been thinking about the 2nd round for 20 years, and then they make it, and the big for scores 1 goal combined. So don't complain about this playoffs now that its in the past? Sure. But you can't sit there and say you're happy with the franchises direction. They have 0 heart, and 0 drive to win. They shouldn't have even gotten the 1 win in round 2. They were bums.
The press and the fans have the Leaf players under such a constant microscope that I’d beg to be traded
I hope they follow Ben Simmons' example
The more fans you have the more annoying fans you have. Every fanbase has annoying fans and everything leafs fans do that ppl bitch about I’ve seen every other fan base do. People just need to feel better about their teams and pick the leafs to hate. Also Gudas 100% yells in his face. Doesn’t yell in excitement or with his team. He takes the time to turn towards Will and yell in his face.
Cry harder. It's playoff hockey.
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 my point exactly. You have to hate the leafs so you can forget about your own teams failures this year. And I really like the avalanche and all the players.
@@erictzogas2580 Nah dude the Leafs really do deserve the hate they get, people don't do it to forget about their own teams' failures. They do it because they deserve it. You are right that every single fanbase is filled with some idiots, the Leafs just happen to have the most.
@@LoN3wOlF5tudi0s people can make the argument that the haters are the bigger villains
@@erictzogas2580 I don't hate the Leafs. I just like making fun of them. The memes always make me laugh.
I’m not even a leafs fan. In fact I’m an Islanders fan and I actually don’t hate the leafs at all. I honestly think leafs haters are more annoying than what they perceive leaf fans to be, mostly because they are extremely obsessive about them and other times they just won’t shut up about shitting on the leafs. I know people will hate what I said because I know it’s a controversial take, but that’s what I think.
Facts
I am amazed at how Leafs haters will always find a way twist something good that happened to the Leafsa and make it seem like a war crime, while they make anything that doesn't go the Leafs way as an opportunity to gaslight their fans and saying things like "Cry more, stop being a pussy. It's playoff hockey!" Part of why Leafs fans are the way that they are is that they are a byproduct of hearing the haters use any opportunity to shit on them
It's not controversial, they act like their fan base as a whole isn't the exact same fucking way when in reality everyone knows the officiating has become complete garbage and is effecting the outcome of far too many games but most homers won't concede that when it happens to another team they just say "go cry" and than proceed to cry themselves when the officiating fucks them, I suppose it's just human nature really to stick with your team
@@curtisb5978 If anything, all fans will complain about the officiating. But because the Leafs have the biggest fanbase, they are the easy target for haters to poke fun at.
@@Mlchael839 Leaf haters are like arsonists.
Start the fire and hide out and say what fire did I start?
Gudas literally looked directly at Woll and screamed in his face, how is that not obvious. If he was actually celebrating. he would go with his teammates and not gloat to the rookie goalie who played the game of his life
Yes, he was two feet from Woll when the goal was scored, too. So, he didn't deliberately get up in Woll's face to gloat. As someone who can't root for any team that employs Gudas, it makes me cringe to defend him, but it is what it is.
Dear God stop moaning. Its pretty annoying. I guess both of you (Woll) cried a lil bit after that game, huh? And I am not even Florida fan. My beloved Hartford was nearly invisible this play off
playoff otter is dead and playoff bobrovsky is alive. what universe are we in???
Not even a leafs fan, but people give them way too much shit for doing more or less exactly what every other fan base does. As a neutral watcher this series, it also seemed extremely clear that the reffing was leaning heavily to one side. I think Toronto could have done a lot more to respond to that (especially if they chose to counter some of florida's filthier plays with their own), but that's besides the point. Would having good reffing this game have won them the series? Probably not. But there were still some absolute bullshit calls (that last icing, not calling the blatant stick grab, etc).
Anyway, I think it's a bit rich how many NHL fans (rightly) go on and on about how the league's rulings are inconsistent and how the concept of "playoff hockey" having different officiating is bizarre, but they immediately side with the league when it's the leafs getting screwed.
To be fair, I haven't heard of other fanbases _doxxing_ the refs before.
Fla had 9 PP's, Toronto had 11. explain how thats leaning Fla?
no wait i know. it was the missed calls right, because Tor never did anything that was missed by the refs only the panthers. got it.
@@justinmiller5660 Just admit u don’t like the leafs bro lmao. calls were missed both ways there is no doubt. but be realistic here… the missed stick hold on the final play alone is more significant than any missed calls on the leafs in this series
@@justinmiller5660 I mean yeah it was absolutely the missed calls. If you watched that game and didn't think it was reffed in a comically lopsided way I don't know what to tell you other than to read the damn rules
@@Terron7979 i know the rules. every team has calls missed against them. look at the Boston series, that was a shit show against the panthers. did you hear the fan base use it as an excuse as to why they lost 3 games? cry harder and remember early tee times are the best.
Lol while I agree with alot of what you said.... How is Gudas NOT yelling in the face of Woll? He first celebrates by putting his arm up then proceeds to clench both fists down and scream into the face of Woll. Don't know how you actually narrated exactly opposite of what was going on lol.
And??… he just won a series for a wild card team. He wouldn’t be human if he didn’t celebrate. Get over it
@@lukerunning6993 Celebrating is the first thing he did. The second thing he did was classless. There's not a single NHL player that would do that except Radko Gudas lol.
And?.. leaf fans clearly just want to find something to focus rather than their team’s terrible performance. Happens all the time with insane fan bases
@@lukerunning6993 Also, Game 5's loss for the Leafs was not a product of "terrible performance". You should watch the game and tell me how that was terrible. Both teams had their chances and there's only one winner which had to be decided in overtime lol. I don't think any of the two teams had a "terrible performance" in game 5. It's annoying when Leafs haters just blindly comment on this team with the stock/typical Leafs haters comment lol. Work on being original.
I have no hatred towards the leafs. I was rooting for them in this series. However, what I do hate is overzealous and bratty fans that think that nonstop complain when their team does poorly. I wasn’t just talking about their performance in game, but their overall performance in the playoffs. It was disappointing, and I do understand that leafs fans are disappointed, however that doesn’t entitle them to be sore losers when they do not win. To repeat: I am not a leafs hater. My team (the Blues) has not rivalry or hatred towards them at all. So stop stereotyping anyone that’s calls out leafs fans as a so called “leafs hater”. Learn to accept defeat
As a Maple Leaf fan, this is hard to see. The second round of the playoffs was an absolute horror, absolutely passionless. It's even worse to see other Maple Leaf fans behaving like this. No one hurt our team, no one tried to hurt our team. We lost the series ourselves, so we have no choice but to congratulate Florida and shut up because it's over anyway. You can't help it, at least we got to experience what it's like to get out of the first round after 20 years... :D Radko Gudas could just finally let his emotions out. I don't think it's unsporting. Plus he did a good job on that goal.
I think Bennett was trying to hurt Knies
@@hunteranderson9939 , so what ? He was welcoming the rookie to the NHL LOL
@@hunteranderson9939 maybe, nobody can say for certain. what i can say for certain is that if Domi or Tucker were on the team Bennet would have been out before he scored that game winner in OT
What? Bennett literally gave Knies a concussion and the league refused to even acknowledge it. When Bunting gets 3 games and then THAT gets NOTHING, then this league is a complete joke.
@@kingsally2864 , Reinhart scored the OT winner, you got the wrong Sam.
A couple things.
1) regarding reffing. Reffing changes in the playoffs. Everyone knows this. The refs let guys get away with way more, which means a lot of things that are penalties don't get called, and when that hurts your team you remember it more than when it helps your team. This also means that it's hard to see where the line is of what is and what is not a penalty. I think this is why fans get upset, because they think they're being unfairly treated when actually they're unfairly remembering (because that's how our brains are wired) a fairly even distribution of bad officiating. I will note I thought the reviews in this playoffs so far have been good. Goalie interference has been called on plays where avoidable contact prevented the opposing goalie from making a save, and not called on plays where the attacking player made every reasonable effort to avoid contact, was outside the crease, or didn't affect the goalie's ability to make a save. The goal being called back, quite simply, there was no angle that I ever saw that conclusively showed the puck over the line during play. There's that one angle that clearly shows the puck over the line as Bob's standing up, but he wouldn't be standing up if play had not been stopped, so while I suspect the puck DID cross the line, video can't confirm it, so you cannot call it a goal.
2) regarding expected goals, the numbers used to calculate xG are based on the entire league, so over long time spans above average shooters will build up a positive goals above expected, and below average shooters will fall into negatives. However, this doesn't necessarily work very well in a playoff series because you are playing against only 1 team, so if you are against a particularly athletic goalie who is above average at saving second and third scrum chances, scrum chances will increase your expected goals disproportionately to actual goals. The fact that almost none of the Leafs had a positive goals above expected suggests that either they were facing above average goaltending, or almost every player saw a decrease in shooting ability once playoffs started, or both. Either way, Expected Goals doesn't matter in the playoffs and advanced stats usually rely on a sample size that isn't possible in the playoffs.
Not a Leaf’s fan at all, but c’mon, using social media posts as your material is weak. You have, and can, do better than this. You give us so much great insight into the game, that there is no need to dive into social media posts that I have no clue where they came from.
"This is why everyone hates the leafs" all fanbases do this. There's just a lot of leafs fans so you see it more often.
This exactly!
Well not all starting goalies goes on record to say “we have the best trainers, the best coaches, and the best players”. That’s pretty arrogant.
They dominate the reg season because all the players are just after personal stats. This team is a joke.
Sour 🍇😂 Go Panthers 🏒🐅
not everyone in each teams fanbases hate the leafs
Gudas starts his celebration facing the corner while raising his arms, he than turns to yell in Wolls face, even if Woll didnt notice that is exactly what happened
Eck I usually agree with your takes, but I think your take on Gudas is an L..watch him in slow motion, he’s looking into the left corner when he sees the puck go in and turns and looks Woll in the eyes and yells…passion is one thing but giving it to a 24 year old playoff debut backup tendy is classless..no I’m not a leafs fan
I've been saying it for years, but the Leafs got way too greedy when they signed Tavares. They already had Nylander, Marner, and Auston Matthews, and instead of going out to get a true no. 1 defenseman, they thought it would be a good idea to dump a bunch of money to get a second no. 1 center? Tavares was just as absent as Matthews this series and he's wearing the C...and there was controversy when that happened if you recall. Maybe giving the C to Matthews would have give him a bigger sense of accountability. Not saying he would have signed, but Drew Doughty was a free agent the same year as Tavares and signed for the same amount of money. Alex Pietrangelo became available a year later. To me it's obvious. But on the bright side, the Leafs will probably have the cap space soon to get that no. 1 Dman when Matthews walks, lol.
What #1 defenceman could they have added in 2018? I can buy the argument that signing JT pushed them into win-now territory too soon but this is just silly revisionist history, nobody turns down a number one center without having to give up any assets.
@@ColeNollavook I don’t think it’s a matter of which D was available that off season via UFA as much as it is signing a top free agent to fill a hole that didn’t exist.
They would have been better off with more flexibility
@@kevinmassey1164 flexibility to do what though? Getting Tavares didn’t stop them from getting Muzzin at the deadline. If there was a better defenceman to be had I’d be on board with this thinking but there wasn’t, Matthews was totally neutralized in the 2018 playoffs and their lack of center depth was glaring, they were able to address it without giving up assets.
canadian fans tend to overhypes their teams
@@ColeNollavook to be clear, I am not a Leaf’s fan or hater. That said I think an argument can be made that signing Tavares was the end of Kadri in Toronto, and that hindsight views that as a mistake. Maybe it wouldn’t have happened in Toronto for Kadri but he seems like the kinda player they need. Maybe they should have been more patient instead of making a big splash on what seemed like adding to a strength.
If lack of early playoff success for the young core was the concern, why spend big on a player that doesn’t have that on his résumé and doesn’t address roster needs?
I'm far from a Leafs fan. Gudas sucks big time on that one though. Really brutal move by him.
As far as the anti-south sentiment, hockey is a much better sport for us all if those markets find success and continue to grow their fanbase. So strange that a fanbase with Auston Matthews, who only ever got into hockey exclusively due to the Arizona Coyotes, is gonna hate on southern teams.
I've been a Leafs fan my whole life (FML) but I agree with you about the conspiracy theorist fans (please just don't paint us all with the same brush, us "regular" fans hate them just as much as you do). As Keefe said, the Leafs lost that series in the first three games. The Panthers are simply putting on a clinic in playoff hockey this year and Bob is playing some of the best hockey of his career. If the core four can't be bothered to even show up for their combined 40 million, the Leafs never had a snowball's chance in hell in this series. Disappointing.
A friend of mine is a die hard Leafs fan and he really got to rub it in when the Bruins lost in the first round and the Leafs advanced (1st time in 20 years). That's fine, I took it, it's only fair. After all, I got many years of calling his team the first round Leafs.
The thing that is so irritating is whenever the Leafs lose it's always the ref's fault. We watched a game where a Leafs player was hit hard, a clean open ice hit, shoulder to chest. It was a highlight reel type of hit, complete destruction. All I heard was "penalty, penalty !!!". There was no penalty, it was a hard, clean hit. He was screaming at the screen "that should be a penalty! F@#%ing refs!" .
It's never the Leafs fault they lose, it's always the ref's fault. It's rigged. That's Leafs fans in a nutshell.
You have to put yourself in our shoes. We've had to play Boston, TB, Washington and CBJ the last decade. Every single one of those teams plays dirty, and gets away with penalties. Now while the Leafs should get with the program and ALSO play like that, they don't. So when blatant missed calls happen (and it happens a LOT) we get understandably upset. You can't watch the officiating in this series and tell me the refs called it fairly.
@@tylerfortin3239 So every team the Leafs play is dirty. Do you even hear yourself?
I hear making sweeping generalizations is a good way to go through life.
@@matthewotoole4012 Specially when I'm right.
@@Seeker22000 Saying I’m right doesn’t make that the case sorry man.
Love your content Eck, but you are dead wrong on the Gudas thing. I get that he is excited that his team won the series, but most people would simply skate over to their teammates and celebrate the success. Instead of doing what most people do, Gudas decides to scream in a rookie goalie's face for no reason. There was no indication that this was premeditated because Woll doesn't strike me as someone who likes to chirp. The fact that Gudas thought it was a good idea to make a rookie goalie, who was already put in a tough spot, feel like crap doesn't sit right with me.
I will say this, I hope Woll keeps a photo of that moment and frames it so he can motivate himself moving forward. It's the kind of thing that builds character and I think this will do a lot of good for his drive and mentality.
Welcome to the real world. People need to grow a pair and realize not everything is gonna be rainbows and sunshine. You don't think Gudas was chirped by Woll or anyone else on the Leafs? Of course he was, and now that he won he can rub it in the team that everyone favored - He just happened to be right in front of Woll when they scored.. Learn to cope with brutal L's
@@cedricdavis513 LOL ya because in the real world when you succeed over someone else you go and scream right in their face, your fucking co workers must hate your guts if you ever got a promotion, it was a dick move pure and simple, no one is saying he should be punished for it just that he's a douche and if you think otherwise you probably are too.
Woll said he didnt even notice Gudas. He was probably still thinking about the goal. He'll be fine
Cry.
I'm a new fan of hockey and I can't wait to watch Carolina vs FL
I am a 55 year fan, and cannot wait for this series...
I don't get why people feel the need to single Leafs fans out for this. Everything you said is true of every fan base and if you haven't seen people swearing black and blue that the refs and league are biased towards the Leafs you aren't looking. The Leafs lost that series on their own. The poor officiating had an impact in that one game particularly. The Gudas thing doesn't bother me. Gudas personally does. He won his series though. He can yell.
We call him "Big, dumb, Radko Gud-ass" here in Tampa lol
Well i think if you win something dishonestly, there is no point in screaming… it is like you are finishing the marathon and you shoot 2nd runner behind you into ankle to win… sadly Gudas has 0 dignity in him.
I would rather lose than win dishonestly…
you have to have brain damage watching that replay to not realize he's celebrating literally in the face of Woll intentionally. - Devils fan
Low T comment
How can the Leafs be anti-clutch if they beat the 3 time Stanley Cup finalists in 6 games by going 3 for 3 in pressure overtime games in Florida??? The Bolts must be incredibly anti-clutch to lose to Toronto. Nucks fans burn down their own city...twice...when they lose in the playoffs does that make them loveable?
Leave the Canucks fans out of this. Those people who tore our city apart, that mindless raging mob was not made up of Canucks fans. Those people just wanted to terrorize people, and used the Canucks losing in the finals as a ignorant justification for their actions. I lived on Robson street when they marched down Granville and Burrard. I was 9.
The real fans of this beautiful but flawed team I cheer for would never do something so violent.
@@cot1579 so you're saying it's a coincidence that it happened not just once but twice in the same Canadian city? Really strange that so many of them were wearing Canucks jerseys but ya they were probably secretly cheering for a different team.
Anti-clutch? This was a burnt-out shell of the Tampa teams we saw the last 3 years and the Leafs still barely slipped by. A Bolts team including a normal playoff mode Vasilevskiy ends the 2023 Leafs in 5 or 6 games.
@@Dystopia1111 Riggght of course they were. They Bolts got dominated by the Leafs in game 6 OT last year and were very lucky to win even with a hot Vasilevskiy.
Adding to Gudas' reaction, it all started in the d zone where he broke off a centering pass that lead to the transition. It was an incredible play from the back end, full on effort.
I mean let's not kid ourselves, Gudas is a dick but he won and he's effective so it doesn't matter much. I bet the Leafs would have loved to have him on their team.
Until he cheated by holding the stick and didn't allow the play to be defended. Leafs showed no heart when they won game 4 and Florida gooned them Free chance to send a message and nothing, not one glove came off.
The way he held jarnies stick too was absolutely flawless.
@@clarkexcore Fucking cry about it
Let's be honest though....people hate fans of every team...and all fans are not represented by a small percentage of trolls on the internet.
As leafs fan I agree 100%.
Our fans need to stop whining and blame lack of competitiveness of team. Core 4 especially
As the Florida fan, the Canes are actually stressing me more than Boston or Toronto. It's going to be an interesting series for sure.
lol that's because now it's real. Playing with house money before now it's about getting to the cup.
You have 0 chance. Garbage team that can't win without cheating.
@@sarahwolfe1154I feel like a conference final is playing with house money more then the first two
I don't know how to do this, perhaps you can? The disallowed goal in the 2nd; there is 1 angle from the front showing the puck under Woll's foot, can you sync the top view and compare where his foot is at the same time (if you know what I mean).
"PLAY A SPORT" 😂 got me good
I think all fan bases complain equally. The Leafs are highlighted because A) they are a popular team with a large fan base and b) they have been losing for so long that it's been a steady stream of complaining. Teams that are winning don't complain with the frequency as a team who only after 19 years made it past the 1st round.
Leafs fans are like we're Canada's team while the rest of us in Canada are like no there not because all of us hate the Leafs
@@spacedoutchimp4454they literally are Canada's team. Same reason why Toronto is the only Canadian city with a MLB and NBA team
You can hate all you want it won't change that lol
@@eventusvantos2770 That's because they're the biggest city. That's it. Toronto's ego is one of their biggest problems, gotta lose that buddy.
@LoN3wOlF5tudi0s lmao no that's not. Toronto has the most fans in the NHL despite not being the biggest city. Many fans from all around the world. It has nothing to do with ego
Leafs fans are the Dallas Cowboys of hockey. Also I live in CA and saw a car with a Panthers decal on it. So sorry Leafs fans but there are fans of these teams out there outside of their markets.
The leafs would technically be the cubs of hockey
Californians are known for repping logos of things they never follow.
Why would the NHL want to set up a terrible matchup with low viewership? If anything the NHL would want more Canadian teams to succeed... I mean, Toronto, Edmonton, Montreal, if teams like that win a cup NHL would see a GI-GAN-TIC amount of rekindled viewership and revenue...
Canadian teams winning doesn't benefit the league. How does that grow the game? Fans will still buy tickets even if their team is last place.
@@davidharrow9025 If you don't think mediocre teams becoming successful once again brings in tons of cash you're out of your mind. The current good teams of the past 5-10 years continuing to succeed won't bring in as much because the Bostons, Pittsburghs, Tampas, etc will continue to buy gear, clothes, memorabilia, etc, there's way more than just tickets, not to mention ticket prices will go up. And Toronto winning a cup? Are you kidding? Everyone & their mother will be wearing a Leafs jersey...
Breaking News!! Every fans of any other teams in the NHL does the exact same thing than Leafs fans. Have you seen what the Habs fans comes up with ....
But Gudas IS classes and a pos, so it definitely was intentional on his part. I enjoyed this for a while but that time has passed.
womp fucking womp
I would love to be a reporter in the media scrum after game 5, so I could be like "so tell me, how do you manage to be so completely and utterly invisible when your teams needs you most?"
I would ask that after asking if he played through injury first.
@@Tribuneoftheplebs Greg Campbell took a slap shot, had a broken leg, and still stayed out to kill the penalty against Pittsburgh. For some players, injuries aren't excuses either.
Yeah, and after you did that your reporter career would be over.
Guess it would be worth it "for the memes"
@DeejayNuKe care to elaborate why a reporter bringing up an observation would be blacklisted? If a player making $10mil+ and doesn't perform when he's needed most, he SHOULD be getting called out at every fucking level.
@@jeremyrafuse5330 It's called being bluntly disrespectful. That will close lots of doors if you actually do this in real life.. lol
There are respectful ways to ask questions, and the way OP wrote it is definitely not one of them. It is quite obvious.
They need to get called out, but again, there are ways to do it properly, and that ain't one of em
Maple Leafs fans when Dubas yells at fans: "It's just passion" :3
Maple Leafs fans when Gudas yells at goalie: "It's bad sportsmanship" :(
it’s been repeatedly said that dubas was yelling at leafs fans. but regardless there’s no context and you can’t even understand half of what he’s saying. gudas went out his way to scream in the face of a rookie who played two games after doing fuck all the entire season. that’s the difference
@@Aj-sn1dp Its just passion
Listen, Matthews is all Bout the dollar signs and not winning. Marner is the same. As a Leafs fan for past 52 years this core has zero heart when it matters.
It should be hard to complain about the refs when your team loses the series 4-1
the "We want Florida" chant was done by kids at the Scotiabank Arena. As a long time Leaf Fan I hate that I'm tied with these fans. We are a large fan base so there are real fans like us will not nitpick on every damn thing like what people do on social media.
Florida played "heavy" on the Leafs just like Tampa did, but Florida has meaner guys. Maurice is old school still with a few of the guys who play that way. I didn't like how Bennett took out Knies but they knew he was a threat and they play him hard, that's how hockey is. I was just pissed nobody stepped up for Knies or protected him. Watching Marner getting flappy punched by Tkatchuk and nobody responding just means that Florida has no respect for the Leafs, which they shouldn't.
We lost because our defence is crap and by that i mean they can't get the puck out efficiently like Florida. For example they had 3 chances on the last game to get it out on one play. This happened so many times in the playoffs. I think Woll played fine and glad he was kept in.
I think in terms of contribution everyone did something crucial in the playoffs. Auston with his two goals for one TB game, OReilly doing his job standing in front of the net and making a crucial goal, Marner making an impact and on the scoresheet for that one win with Florida, and being the best play maker IMHO. Nylander with the most scoring and making the game tying goal on the last game. I think Auston got injured when he got hit by the shot earlier in the series. Anyway they played to their max based on who they are. The problem is they are not tough as nails or resilient for the playoffs. Remember we lost to TB last year best of 7? I think the leafs fought hard but TB became STRONGER and made it to the finals, whereas the Leafs looked WEAKER going into the Florida series.
What are we supposed to do? Bodycheck them and potentially get more suspensions? We don't want to repeat what happened to Bunts. Play fair and clean and good things will happen
Same here. After the round one win, i didnt even realize that some leafs fan were chanting “We want Panthers”, so kinda sucks that we getting memed on cause some loud mouths wanted to act cocky.
@@coastaku1954 Except that's not how the playoffs work. You've heard people say "Playoff hockey is just different." And that's true, but probably not in the way you think. Playoff hockey is different from regular hockey simply because you can get away with so much more. You can chokeslam, hold sticks, charge after whistles, etc. all of with impunity because the refs simply don't call penalties in the playoffs unless it's a puck over glass.
@@Bugattiboy912 Which is stupid when people are getting hurt
@@coastaku1954 I agree, but until the NHL starts holding refs accountable it's going to keep happening.
Never forget Mike Meyers made the plot of his movie The Love Guru so he could see his Maple Leafs in a final, which totally broke the fifth wall because it will never happen.
Matthews isn't worth his current contract, let alone a $1mil more after this contract.
I'm an Oilers fan and we get shit on a lot for being a top heavy team with no depth, but we don't have $40mil tied up in our top 4 forwards who produce like 3rd liners in the playoffs.
But if a leafs player did what Gudas did, the fans would cry
No, the fans would respond just the way Eck did and say to Cats fans who didn't like if Bunting screamed in Bob's face "that's playoff hockey. Quit being so soft".
They’d get the guillotine ready
@@SouthernSera then everyone including you would rip on bunting, calling him classless for that because he’s a Leaf
👍😅🏒🐅🐯
@@huge_legend9944bunting is already classless anyways
I’m 38 and miss hockey of the 90’s. You used to sit down and watch on ABC or NBC the game. After the third period was over that was it. No Twitter, no reddit no SM. It was great.
First of all, as a hockey and Star Wars fan, honestly love your channels popping off. Don’t agree with all of your takes, but it’s refreshing to see someone who supports the leafs (even as a B team) call it like it is. Love the Steve Dangle comparison; I’m guilty as a hate-watcher if his, but as someone who used to live in the GTA, it’s refreshing to see his realistic takes in spite of his bias. No long term fan of any team thinks that officiating is a reasonable excuse for failure. When it’s consistently bad for every team, it’s just something you have to deal with. Special teams are more important than ever in todays age of rule uncertainty, and if you don’t invest in your PK, you’re doing it wrong.
Looking at Twitter for good discussion is your first mistake
I don't care that Gudas yelled, I care that he levelled Kampf, no call, grabbed Jarnkrok's stick for the OT winner, no call, and I am generally pissed off that the calls were one-sided including Knies being knocked-out of play and nothing happening.
We didn't deserve the win, we blew it in the first two games.
The refereeing was disgraceful as was the DoPS in the Pietrangelo incident...one game, f'king joke. Pretty sure that an NHL player will get seriously hurt or killed because the refs are not controlling the violence...I do not mean hitting, I am talking boarding etc. someone will get fucked up. Waiting for the trolls and internet tough-guys to tell me that illegal hits are part of hockey...they were less common when we had fighting and enforcers.
Most Leafs fans probably don't even follow Leafs related Twitter. This may be shocking for someone making a living on social media, but hey you are entitled to make a video on whatever you see. This is the classic base rate fallacy. Toronto has many fans, which means more good fans and more bad fans, just because there are more of them, not because they are any more toxic than other fan bases. Season's over, enjoy life, I for one don't care a single bit about this Gudas incident or the fan reaction. If you never made this video I wouldn't even know it existed.
Im not a Leaf fan, but thats true about how it will be the least watched conference final of all time. Its just like when Dallas played Tampa in the final. Nobody watched it because very few outside of there very small fan base cares about teams in non hockey markets. And nobody will watch the final now if the Oilers dont get there and even if they do it will be a poor finals rating.
The NFL has the same thing with the Cowboys. Every year is their year. And when the lose, it’s because they got screwed.
God I hate it when people resort to scapegoating the refs for their losses lmao
Ya but these days it's not really scapegoating when 99 percent of hockey fans agree officiating is awful and directly effects the outcome of many games and if you think that's false than you haven't been watching hockey lately, I'm not even a Leafs fan ffs
@@curtisb5978 A few calls in a game here and there don't determine your entire teams performance throughout 5 games. Sure some calls will lead to goals but can you change the call? no. So just preserve, something the Leafs can't do. They just SUCKED and people gotta realize it.
@@cedricdavis513 oilers fan here. Leafs were bad but the Refs are too involved. Puck bounces off a ref to the front and leads directly to a goal ane then the Rielly goal situation. NHL is the only sport with reffing this bad and this involved in determining the outcome of the game.
@@cedricdavis513almost all those fans who complain about officiating will agree that the leafs arnt good enough, but that doesnt mean we arnt going to complain about shitty reffing at the same time when its fucked us the past two years, the OT winning goal happened only cus gudas stole my guys stick so he couldnt check the oncoming player with the puck, if you think thats not a missed call or bs uve never played hockey or dont know the rules.
As an oilers fan, gudas was yelling in Wolls face, idk how you can say he wasn’t bro. Fr he straight yelled in his face after they scored no contest.
Yeah, I hate the Leafs but to say the Gudas yelling in Woll's face is okay and just a part of the game is terrible. It's classless. I understand how exciting that moment is but you need to show better sportsmanship. Gudas would be untwisting his panties if it happened to him.
Flames fan here (RIP to our season). Here are my thoughts:
1. Leafs only have themselves to blame for the series result. The Samsonov injury didn't help, but they didn't play well enough when it mattered most (especially not their core).
2. It's tough to tell whether Gudas intended to taunt Woll or not. It's a bad visual, but he also happened to be in the paint when Cousins scored. He saw the goal, and his first instinct was to scream out in triumph. That said, Gudas isn't exactly the epitome of sportsmanship and is known for crossing the line at times, so who knows?
3. Even so, I wouldn't defend Gudas here. Sportsmanship is a thing, and some players are capable of winning with class and honour. These are the players we should look up to.
Great vid! Btw what’s your favourite team
As a Leafs fan this result was quite expected for me. I think on top of the big guys not stepping up, the coaching style, power play, and their system didn't work. When I watched the game it felt like they got by because of their skill alone, I didn't see any chemistry or flow to their game all season. I was surprised they beat Tampa and was surprised by the goals they got to come back from those games they were down in the series. Florida did a great job keeping the Leafs contained and the Leafs coaching staff and players failed to adapt.
Eck, you're looking for the outliers, in regard to Leaf fans. As far as missed calls....Gudas did 3 things....he interfered with Jarnkrok, he snowed the goalie...seemingly on purpose...and intentionally screening the goalie by sticking your face in his...seems pretty questionable. Ya...I do think screaming in the goalie's face...after your team scores...is pretty classless. Have never seen that before in hockey...at all levels. He was not just celebrating. He was intentionally targeting the goalie. You gotta be a bit twisted to do that stuff.
Gudas is a bum. Horrible hockey player. If you can even call him that.
Agreed, I was about to say that.
It's kind of hypocritical of eck making this video calling out "leafs fans" after his video talking about how a few fans of a franchise shouldn't represent the whole franchise. (The video mentioning about kings fans) I'm not a Toronto fan, but I'm not very fond of this video calling out a few diehard complainers to call out the whole fanbase.
@@joecornman5271 Eck isn't consistent in what he does. I've seen that part...lol. Sometimes he's actually completely off the mark, as is on this one. It's just blatantly obvious to anyone that Gudas was not just celebrating. He was being a complete ass and intentionally trying to aggravate a goalie that they just scored on. We'll see what happens in the following series. There are players that will go over the top in being an arse in the NHL...and those that will not. I think the league could do much better in policing that line between ethical...and non-ethical just plain nasty behaviour. Does the league really want to breed complete arses....so they can do horrid nasty things to each other?
Gary Bettman was the man on the grassy knoll.
it reminds of how people react to yankee fans but i understand how people react to the fanbases, i don't like every take that every leaf fan has, it took me about a night to get over the loss im sure im not like everyone but we as leaf fans will all be back to do it again next season lol
only us habs fans understand yankees fans.
These same fans were asking for Nylander to get traded after 1st period and then absolutely loved him by the 3rd.
If he really was yelling in Woll’s face that is wildly unnecessary in that situation. r/Leafs and Leafs Twitter are something else though. They think George Parros has some anti-Leafs bias because of the Colton Orr fight. I love the Leafs but sometimes I feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading fan reactions to losses like this.
I had mad respect for both the panthers and the canes fans. Not only are they the least annoying but the cheer for some solid teams. Though I really like both the canes and the panthers, I think the canes will squeak it out in 6. Good luck both of y’all and can’t wait for the finals!!
What panthers fans? Went to their home game and it was mostly away fans. Cant be annoying when there arent any. I never understood why teams like Florida and Arizona exist when there is almost no fanbase
@@fuzzau yeah, but I respect the 6 of them🫡
as a leafs fan, we can allow ourselves to be mad about the refs because some of the calls that were or weren't made had some impact on how the game ended. but there's more anger for our players not showing enough grit and simply ghosting when we needed them most. sure auston, mitch, and john played big roles against tampa but they just couldn't keep it going which is super frustrating. willy and mo were the best of our core throughout this run and this team had some of the best defense and goaltending in recent memory which makes it even more disappointing.
You’re allowed to be mad at calls but so many of you guys act like it’s a unique problem that effects Toronto only. I saw a stat that said there was a major blown call in over 90% of games this year. Not sure if it’s real but you guys need to understand that no one is out to get you but because there are so many like that, we will continue to enjoy your losses.
you’re right, your core is SOFT. you will never win with all of them on that roster, so continue mediocrity, good luck brother, we’re all hoping you guys can eventually figure it out.
"so many of you guys" lmao no those are only the loud delusional fans and they make up an incredibly small amount of leafs nation. the vast majority of us are sane. sure it could be the annual playoff disappointment that makes them go crazy and say dumb stuff like that but please continue to hate on an incredibly passionate fanbase that just wants the best for their buds, totally makes sense ig.
@@j.p.balino90 you might be delusional if you think most of your fan base is sane, sorry buddy it really must suck to know that core will never amount to anything
@@mitchellkramer229 all this talk happened about ovechkin too when he couldn’t win for 14 years. We have many years of elite hockey remaining with this core idk why people think it’s the end of the world lmao. One team wins the cup there are 32 cups coming in 2nd gets you the same prize as 32nd only 1st matters. If this core starts to fall off then maybe we can entertain the dismantle the core conversation.
Play a sport just once was so refreshing to hear lol all the “classless” comments I’ve seen the last few years r almost ALWAYS from ppl who never played organized sports or were benchwarmers
Lightning fan here. I sang O Canada in a packed bar when the Leafs lost. I bought a Gudas jersey that night.
0:37 actually, even it the game the Leafs won, they still only scored 2 goals, meaning Bobrovsky allowed 2 goals in every game of the series, no more, no less
I commented the same before I saw your comment. That is true consistency when we gave up exactly the same number of goals in every game. Bob has been a beast and I love this for him. His confidence is sky high right now and he deserves all the accolades after his tough regular season.
should've been three goals for us but ehh whatever
I’m a hawks fan that rooted for the leafs cause my dad is a leafs fan, and I’ve felt like multiple times over the past few years the refs or league has done things to hurt us but then I took a wide look at it, and quickly realized that our management traded players that were good and had good potential. I started to blame management and players more than the league or refs. So i’ve been in the same spot a lot of leafs fans are in with the refs or league. But look at your star players first they play the game, blame them first not the officials the refs do their best to control the game and have the players play by the rules.
Anyone else notice how similar the NBA and NHL are with playoff seeding moving on
NBA:
West- 1st seed v. 7th seed
East - 2nd seed v. 8th seed
NHL:
East - 2nd seed v. 8th seed
Potentially West: 1st seed v. 7th seed
you are right as a leaf fan im embarrassed by the way leaf fans react to anything let alone a playoff series I do have to agree tho that florida got away with some cheaky shit that allowed them to win but so did we against tampa
All fanbases have the same ratio of these “bad fans”. Its just that the leafs have the most fans in the nhl so you see more of these comments and people tend to remember and react to negative or salty comments more than the positive ones. Thats why people think this about knicks and cowboys fans too. People say they have the worst fanbase but all fanbases are literally the same.
Completely agreed. I'm a Las Vegas Golden Knights fan, though that series hurt to watch. The leafs looked sloppy the whole time except the occasional good play. Especially Nylander; for someone who is supposed to be one of the best players on that team I couldn't help but think that was a joke as all he ever seemed to do was float around and give 15 percent effort. The leafs definitely deserved to lose that series, but I think that game specifically should have ended in a leafs victory, especially considering the completely visible angle of the puck crossing the line even before the whistle was supposed to go off. Should have been 3-2 Leafs W with no OT, but I can't imagine they would have been able to squeak out another 2 games against a team that actually looks like they deserve to be there like the Panthers. Go Golden Knights
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